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« Reply #-1 on: May 06, 2015, 10:13:02 AM »
As requested by someone on SMC

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Re: KSE Vs DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE
« on: May 06, 2015, 10:16:07 AM »
Thanks space bhai, I am surprised at the similarities.

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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2015, 10:42:30 AM »
but the picture was of 2011 :laugh:
Only dead fish goes with the flow.

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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2015, 10:51:52 AM »
 Please can you paste the link of the website for chart.
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2015, 11:00:37 AM »
Updated 2010-2015

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Re: KSE Vs DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2015, 11:01:03 AM »
Chart was made using Bloomberg

http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/INDU:IND/chart
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2015, 11:07:27 AM »
but the picture was of 2011 :laugh:

Although I have posted the 2010-2015 chart, but, SPOON FEEDING CHILDREN is not my responsibility, if you so wanted you could have plotted a simple chart, or does someone need to HOLD YOUR HAND for every little thing ?  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2015, 11:13:27 AM »
So as can be seen by the 2 charts from 2008-2015 the similarity of patterns of KSE 100 and DJIA have run parallel to each other, @Arehman this was very surprising for me as well when someone pointed out to me, and this is why I plotted the 1st chart and posted it to the KSE100 thread here on the forum (back in 2012).

What has happened since 2012 is KSE100 has gone through re-rating and PE multiples have gone much higher, that is why the gap between DIJA and KSE100 has widened in KSE 100s favor, even then if one looks closely one can see the overall pattern has been of simply a parallel rise since 2011. KSE 100 a faster rate  of rise and DIJA a steady rate, DIJA is a matured market unlike KSE which is still not an EMERGING market its still rated FRONTIER market
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2015, 11:19:00 AM »
yes 1st chart was surprisingly very closely following to each other, but not second one
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2015, 11:31:27 AM »
yes 1st chart was surprisingly very closely following to each other, but not second one

Care to explain how ?

Create a financial crisis tomorrow and drop DIJA down to 10k and see where KSE100 will end up, According to your analysis there will not be a great impact, as far as I am concerned if DIJA loses 50% value KSE 100 will lose >50% value, the faster something goes up, the faster it falls. If gora pulls all funds from KSE100 it will be flat back to 25k or lower, and then in the panic local will pull funds too and it will be below 17k, so DIJA would have lost 44% (18k to 10k) and KSE 100 would have lost 50% (34k - 17k).

Obviously its just a theory, only time will tell, but if you do not see the two parallel lines on the graph (with different gradients) then you are looking at a graph different to the one I am looking at  ;)
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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2015, 12:43:44 PM »
Space bhai , If you look at the similarities between the Lodon Stock and KSE you will fall in love with GRAPH. . . .  :fingerscrossed1:

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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2015, 01:32:44 PM »
Space bhai , If you look at the similarities between the Lodon Stock and KSE you will fall in love with GRAPH. . . .  :fingerscrossed1:

Done



Basically same as DJIA Vs KSE, what people have to realize is that only the rate of change has gone up for KSE due to re-ratings, the real up and down impact will be visible after a 2007 like global crash

@Zeesshan if you change time frame to 1 month then the chart looks amazingly similar
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Re: KSE Vs DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2015, 01:33:41 PM »
BTW guys these are KSE charts, not KSE 100
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2015, 03:03:09 PM »
Space bro, with historical rise in US debts in the past 5 years and lowering exports for countries like china and US , where do u see things in a 1 year or so. . . . I have always seen a crash before or some where near the usa presidential elections, next up are in NOV 2016. . . . your view's bro

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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2015, 07:48:15 PM »
Space bro, with historical rise in US debts in the past 5 years and lowering exports for countries like china and US , where do u see things in a 1 year or so. . . . I have always seen a crash before or some where near the usa presidential elections, next up are in NOV 2016. . . . your view's bro

Look yaar there is a bubble already, I mean the interest rates have been so low for too long, I am talking about interest rates in the west. On the one hand they say the economies are too fragile and so interest rates cannot go up, and on the other hand DJIA is sky high, how can the two statements reconcile ? Stock market is "supposed" to reflect the shape of the economy, if economy is in such dire straits that it needs "free money" (which is what the current interest rate regime is doing) to stay afloat, then why are the markets up ? I think global markets will start coming down once the USA FED starts tapering the bond repurchase and starts to increase interest rates. Now will this act alone create a crash ? honestly I do not know, but it will test the markets which are currently used to having free liquidity.
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Re: KSE Vs DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2015, 12:42:24 AM »
Dow jones up 1.5%, close to all time high

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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2015, 11:27:12 PM »
All USA bourses are green today NY oil market is also up

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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2015, 12:06:34 AM »
USA stocks DOWJONE S&P500 NASDAQ are in green however NYCRUDE down around  four percent , and Pakistani oil sector today .......???????

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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2015, 02:35:44 AM »
Sorry to say..........but reality is............... Ghoray or Gadhay ko compare kernay wali bat ho gai...........just giving example neither country is Ghora nor Gadha...............

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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2015, 11:15:40 PM »
USA stocks S&P, NASDAQ,DOWJONES are in red, where NYCRUDE down more than six percent  :ohmy:

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