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Title: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Toshi on September 24, 2009, 12:01:57 PM
All About Searle Pakistan
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Toshi on September 24, 2009, 12:04:23 PM
It is time to book profit in searl.
But for long term still looks good
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Admin on September 25, 2009, 02:14:19 PM
Searle Pakistan Limited 30 April 2009
10:55 AM
(PKT +5:00GMT) EPS = 8.07
PROFIT/LOSS AFTER TAXATION RS. IN MILLION 214.837
FINANCIAL RESULT FOR THE THIRD QUARTER ENDED 31/03/2OO9
PROFIT/LOSS BEFORE TAXATION RS. IN MILLION 307.242
Searle Pakistan Limited 27 February 2009
04:50 PM
(PKT +5:00GMT) EPS = 4.27
PROFIT/LOSS AFTER TAXATION RS. IN MILLION 113.796
FINANCIAL RESULT FOR THE HALF YEAR ENDED 31/12/2OO8
PROFIT/LOSS BEFORE TAXATION RS. IN MILLION 168.831
Searle Pakistan Limited 02 February 2009
11:02 AM
(PKT +5:00GMT) BOOK CLOSURE TO 27/02/2009
DIVIDEND = 37.548%(Specie Dividend)
BOOK CLOSURE FROM 21/02/2009
Searle Pakistan Limited 31 October 2008
03:26 PM
(PKT +5:00GMT) EPS = 3.00
PROFIT/LOSS BEFORE TAXATION RS. IN MILLION 102.331
FINANCIAL RESULT FOR THE FIRST QUARTER ENDED 30/09/2OO8
PROFIT/LOSS AFTER TAXATION RS. IN MILLION 79.831
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Toshi on September 28, 2009, 10:09:52 AM
BM on 1st october at 4.30pm
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Toshi on October 02, 2009, 10:13:20 AM
Searl excellent result
EPS 9.70
Bonus 15%
Dividend 15%
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Karuli on October 02, 2009, 06:56:40 PM

today upper lock
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Admin on October 30, 2009, 11:22:04 AM
30-OCT-09 SEARL Searle PakistanXDXB FINANCIAL RESULT FOR THE FIRST QUARTER ENDED 30/09/2009
30-OCT-09 SEARL Searle PakistanXDXB PROFIT/LOSS BEFORE TAXATION RS. IN MILLION 112.937
30-OCT-09 SEARL Searle PakistanXDXB PROFIT/LOSS AFTER TAXATION RS. IN MILLION 81.314
30-OCT-09 SEARL Searle PakistanXDXB EPS = 3.05
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Toshi on October 30, 2009, 12:11:12 PM
30-OCT-09 SEARL Searle PakistanXDXB FINANCIAL RESULT FOR THE FIRST QUARTER ENDED 30/09/2009
30-OCT-09 SEARL Searle PakistanXDXB PROFIT/LOSS BEFORE TAXATION RS. IN MILLION 112.937
30-OCT-09 SEARL Searle PakistanXDXB PROFIT/LOSS AFTER TAXATION RS. IN MILLION 81.314
30-OCT-09 SEARL Searle PakistanXDXB EPS = 3.05


Excellent result by searl and upper locked.
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Toshi on December 23, 2009, 10:42:57 PM
Strong buy searl with stoploss 59,just started bullish trend
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Toshi on December 29, 2009, 11:10:54 PM
Hold with stoploss at 59
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Farooq Qadir on July 12, 2012, 01:21:02 PM
Anybody have information about Searl. Trading at 48 ...Should i take position .
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Daftari on July 12, 2012, 01:26:34 PM
Searle Pakistan Limited
(SEARL)    April 27th, 2012
04:08:19 PM    FINANCIAL RESULT FOR THE NINE MONTHS ENDED 31/03/2012
PROFIT/LOSS BEFORE TAXATION RS. IN MILLION 319.724
PROFIT/LOSS AFTER TAXATION RS. IN MILLION 215.626
EPS = 6.40

vs

Searle Pakistan Limited
(SEARL)    April 29th, 2011
11:10:35 AM    FINANCIAL RESULT FOR THE NINE MONTHS ENDED 31/03/2011
PROFIT/LOSS BEFORE TAXATION RS. IN MILLION 349.868
PROFIT/LOSS AFTER TAXATION RS. IN MILLION 235.614
EPS = 7.69
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Farooq Qadir on July 13, 2012, 04:54:05 PM
Accumulation has been started. The result u r mentioning is incorrect.( i think u hv taken this from AKD site). Kindly check the financals  on searle pakistan website. I m expecting very last qtr as the prices of majority products has been increased from 30-40%. :dance. as per my information the target price is around PKR 60 before 30 sep 2012.
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Farooq Qadir on July 16, 2012, 09:57:38 AM
upper lock 52.26
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Valueestimator on July 16, 2012, 02:41:58 PM
is it a good buy.

there are large sellers at cap rate.

related party transactions are also skpetical. what you guys says about it
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Abdul Qadir on July 16, 2012, 05:00:57 PM
Not impressed by this script much , payouts are also not good n earnings seems to be volatile.
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Valueestimator on July 16, 2012, 06:42:59 PM
I got info about it, NIT has done major buying in searl, glaxo, abot, feroz and all other pharma stocks. Tomorrow is also expected to be bullish.

searle seems to be the most undervalued stock albeit there are some issues.

annual eps would be at least 10 insha ALLAH, based on that pe of 5 is attractive
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Farzooq on August 08, 2012, 02:57:15 PM


Searle Pakistan Limited

 August 02, 2012
RECORDER REPORT

 Searle Pakistan Limited is one of the largest national pharmaceutical companies in Pakistan. It ranked eleventh in Pakistan with a market share of around 2.4 percent in the country according to Pakistan Pharmaceutical Index-IMS-of the fourth quarter of CY08.
 
Searle Pakistan Limited was incorporated as a private limited pharmaceutical company back in 1960s. It was only later in CY93 that the Company was converted into a public limited company and listed on two of the country's stock exchanges: KSE and ISE. The group, which is engaged in selling of food and consumer items, manufacturing of pharmaceutical items for other companies and marketing, selling and distribution of healthcare products, consists of Searle Pakistan Limited as the holding company and IBL Healthcare (Private) Limited as the subsidiary company.
 
IBL HealthCare (Private) Limited, the subsidiary of the Searle Pakistan Limited is principally involved in the marketing, selling and distribution of healthcare products International Brand Private Limited, however, has now become the ultimate holding company as it acquired additional 15.9 percent shareholding, adding up to a total of 55.25 percent of the entire shareholding.
 
Financial Performance Though the growth in the top line of Searle Pakistan was not chunky, still the Company has been experiencing modest sales' growth over years. The Company is a big player amongst the local pharmaceutical companies, and has been witnessing healthy growth in all its product categories.
 
The Company earns most of its money from the pharma-segment (around 75 percent). A highlight to the total sales mix is the contribution by its consumer or food category which primarily includes the sales of the popular sweetener: Canderal Within pharmaceutical category, the Company's sales comprise mostly of solids. However, the liquids and sterile have also had their share in sales mix. During FY11, the solids had almost a 60 percent share in the total sales mix followed by liquids with 24 percent share, sterile 10 percent and consumer 7 percent. Beside local sales which have a significant 90 percent contribution, the Company also exports pharmaceutical items. The modest growth is sales during 9MFY12 was multi-sourced, highlighted by growth in brands like Gravinate, Rotec and Metrozines, etc.
 
The 11 percent growth in the top line for 9MFY12 versus that of 9MFY11 could not, however, be trickled down to the bottom line and this was primarily due to a significant increase in the prices of raw material and higher depreciation of the currency resulting in heightened cost of sales.
 
Besides, the profitability was constrained due to the domestic inflation and high cost of power and utilities. Thus, the profit for 9MFY12 increased a tad by 3.3 percent versus the profits for 9MFY11. Likewise, gross margins, operating margins and net margins slipped during the period under review on account of the above-mentioned reasons.
 
Leading Brands Searle Pakistan Limited has a broad portfolio of products that encircles life. This portfolio encompasses three major product divisions namely pharma, consumer health and nutrition.
 
Within the pharma category, the therapeutic areas include cardiovascular, respiratory care, gastroenterology, pain management, CNS, orthocare, neuropsychiatry, probiotics, antibiotics and nutritional care The Company has a leadership status in many of its brands. Hydryllin is well known for cough remedy. Nuberol is a popular muscle relaxant analgesic prescribed by the doctors. Lomotil is a leading antidiarrheal. Gravinate is a top anti-emetic.
 
Expanding the International Market The exports of the Company in the total revenue mix account for around 10 to 11 percent. The Company's International Business Development Division is expanding at a fast pace with the aim to establish and position the Company's products across national boundaries. The Company has plans about increasing the adding new products to the portfolio and increasing the number of employees to serve that market well. As of now, the IBD team consists of over 70 employees from different nationalities based in Vietnam, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Kenya and Uganda.
 
Future Prospects & Outlook On the Company level, Searle Pakistan Limited plans to continue to roll out new products and value-added services in the short term. In the long term, the Company aims to invest in green chemistry which requires state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities that ensure product affordability as well as environment friendliness.
 
On a broader level, the national pharmaceutical sector is faced with an array of challenges. An issue which is unique to the country is that with the passing of the functions of MOH to provinces under the 18th Amendment, concerns loom over the future of the regulatory framework of the industry.
 
To much extent, the viability of the pharmaceutical companies depends upon the progress in this regard. The decision on setting up an autonomous Drug Regulatory Authority (DRA) is a step that has lifted hopes in the industry with regard to the delay of registration and pricing of the medicines and pharmaceutical products. Other concerns like IPR violation, counterfeit drugs and quality issues continue to plague the industry and require concerted efforts across the board.
 
The pharmaceutical sector is estimated at $1.88 billion with local companies grabbing around 45 percent market share. Amid continued cost increase on the back of energy price escalation, inflation and Rupee depreciation, rationalisation of taxes is demanded by the pharmaceutical sector before the budget FY13 announcement. In response, the slashing of the customs duty on the pharmaceutical sector's 88 raw materials in the recent budget was some relief to the sector but only as long as one does not know the actual number of imported raw materials that go in the production of medicines and drugs.

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SEARLE Pakistan Limited
==============================================FY10     FY11   9MFY12
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Profitability
Gross margins            43%      42%      41%
Operating margins        16%      17%      16%
Net margins               9%       8%       7%
ROE                      25%      23%      14%
ROA                      12%      10%       7%
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Liquidity & Solvency
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Current ratio           1.74     1.63     1.89
finance cost cover      5.96     2.76     2.56
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Efficiency
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Total assets turnover   1.33     1.22     1.03
Fixed assets turnover   5.64     5.93     4.63
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Market
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EPS (Rs)               11.96    13.50     8.35
Price per share (Rs)   59.00    54.35    44.26
P/E                     4.93     4.03     5.30
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Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Valueestimator on August 10, 2012, 12:41:13 PM
gradully inching up
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Valueestimator on August 24, 2012, 02:46:36 PM
ONE OF THE MOST UNDERVALUED AND SAFE STOCKS.

PE OF JUST CIRCA 4, LEADING MARKET POSITION,
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Irfankhan on August 24, 2012, 04:03:44 PM
ONE OF THE MOST UNDERVALUED AND SAFE STOCKS.

PE OF JUST CIRCA 4, LEADING MARKET POSITION,
Agreed :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Farzooq on September 24, 2012, 09:52:04 AM
dps 1 bonus 40%
eps 11.18
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Intellectual on September 24, 2012, 10:00:38 AM
dps 1 bonus 40%
eps 11.18
Farzooq bhai plz tell me which is the best share for fresh entry now?
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: stock addicted on September 24, 2012, 10:47:44 AM
searl sucks maalik isss share ko berhnay hi nahi detaa apnay shares bechay gaa thaka ker dooosron say bikwaey gaa aur fir berhaa day gaa
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: Farooq Qadir on September 24, 2012, 11:25:03 AM
Accumulation has been started. The result u r mentioning is incorrect.( i think u hv taken this from AKD site). Kindly check the financals  on searle pakistan website. I m expecting very last qtr as the prices of majority products has been increased from 30-40%. :dance. as per my information the target price is around PKR 60 before 30 sep 2012.

 :dance
Title: Re: SEARL -- Searle Pak
Post by: M&M on September 25, 2012, 06:28:25 PM
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Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aqadir92 on October 14, 2012, 07:19:17 PM
i have searl shares, whts ur advise do i sale or hold and eat bonus and dividend or will i sale? kindly advise me.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: M&M on October 14, 2012, 07:36:20 PM
i have searl shares, whts ur advise do i sale or hold and eat bonus and dividend or will i sale? kindly advise me.
it depends, if you like to keep cash then sell it tomorrow
at last closing, xrate is coming out at 42.11
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: jay on October 18, 2012, 01:05:14 PM
is there any chance to enter at this level.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: soulpower on October 19, 2012, 01:20:25 AM
is there any chance to enter at this level.
Searl is a good company, you can enter at this point,it can go till 52 easily.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: M&M on November 02, 2012, 01:34:47 PM
http://www.searlepak.com/remos_downloads/3q0912spl.71.pdf
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Hamid Mamraiz on November 02, 2012, 07:19:02 PM
http://www.searlepak.com/remos_downloads/3q0912spl.71.pdf

What is the Book Value of Searl??

Q1 results don't include 40% bounus shares in EPS calculatoin. From Q2 40% bonus shares will drag its eps downwards.. I think 35 should be the entry points after Q2 results... current levels are not good for entry..
Comments Plz....
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: M&M on November 02, 2012, 10:39:04 PM
http://www.searlepak.com/remos_downloads/3q0912spl.71.pdf

What is the Book Value of Searl??

Q1 results don't include 40% bounus shares in EPS calculatoin. From Q2 40% bonus shares will drag its eps downwards.. I think 35 should be the entry points after Q2 results... current levels are not good for entry..
Comments Plz....
bvps is around 50
P/E won't change ..
for entry level .. 'the cheaper, the better'  ;)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sAr on November 03, 2012, 04:33:04 PM
One important point investors are missing is that, SEARL is in growth phase. It has taken PKR 1 Billion debt for 4 years in 4QFY12. The Pricing of the debt is at 6K+2.5%, which roughly comes around 13% p.a. The Interest payments are in 6 months  arrears and are expected to commence from 2QFY13. By expected rate, the impact is going to be PKR 130mn for the year or PKR 32.5mn/quarter. Profitabilty for 2Q is expected to be dragged by 0.9-0.95/share(According to old Paid-up) or by PKR 0.65-0.68/share according to new Paid up capital after adjustment of bonuses .

Thus 2Q EPS may come around PKR 1.6-1.65/share(bonus adjusted). Full Year EPS may be around 6.5-6.6/share keeping in view current trend. The stock remain at PE of 6.5x a bit over valued. 2Q Earnings announcement may provide a dip for accumulation. In Pharma sector, SEARL remains relatively under valued as compared to other companies and provide opportunity for Value Investment.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on December 19, 2012, 02:38:25 PM
Start Accumulating Searl in 42-43 range, trading on cheapest rate in pharma sector.
Target 55 Insha ALLAH short-medium term.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: abeerzia on December 19, 2012, 03:06:44 PM
Start Accumulating Searl in 42-43 range, trading on cheapest rate in pharma sector.
Target 55 Insha ALLAH short-medium term.

Abdul Qadir Bhai can you kindly share basis of your estimate? it will help us alot.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on December 19, 2012, 03:13:23 PM
Since SEARL would have to take 3-4 months (historcially) to start moving up towards its expected target also considering that its 1Q result not showing the impact of Bonus Shares therefore for the Value Investment we see this Scrip Slipping towards 40's + the USD vs PKR Opportunity --- We can better utilize our CASH for Adding More Value into it and be ready to BUY SEARL @ 42-43 in MAR again --- We are sharing our POINT of VIEW only SINCERELY as we beleive that all Members of this Group as our Family and shall benefit the MAX >>>>> Good Luck
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sAr on December 19, 2012, 05:45:37 PM
Since SEARL would have to take 3-4 months (historcially) to start moving up towards its expected target also considering that its 1Q result not showing the impact of Bonus Shares therefore for the Value Investment we see this Scrip Slipping towards 40's + the USD vs PKR Opportunity --- We can better utilize our CASH for Adding More Value into it and be ready to BUY SEARL @ 42-43 in MAR again --- We are sharing our POINT of VIEW only SINCERELY as we beleive that all Members of this Group as our Family and shall benefit the MAX >>>>> Good Luck

Global Investor, What are you trying to say? Should we wait?

Start Accumulating Searl in 42-43 range, trading on cheapest rate in pharma sector.
Target 55 Insha ALLAH short-medium term.

Qadir bhai, no doubt it remains cheap in pharma sector. But i believe that profitability for the 2nd quarter will remain low or at max stagnant. EPS is not expected to rise because of the debt burden(refer to my last post). Similarly, the sales havent seen much increase as they stay below previous level. 1Q sales declined YoY. In addition, they have undergone some massive advertising in this quarter, which may increase the Expenses. I believe that Wait and See is the best startegy. Rest Allah knows the best.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on December 19, 2012, 06:04:34 PM
Since SEARL would have to take 3-4 months (historcially) to start moving up towards its expected target also considering that its 1Q result not showing the impact of Bonus Shares therefore for the Value Investment we see this Scrip Slipping towards 40's + the USD vs PKR Opportunity --- We can better utilize our CASH for Adding More Value into it and be ready to BUY SEARL @ 42-43 in MAR again --- We are sharing our POINT of VIEW only SINCERELY as we beleive that all Members of this Group as our Family and shall benefit the MAX >>>>> Good Luck

Global Investor, What are you trying to say? Should we wait?

Start Accumulating Searl in 42-43 range, trading on cheapest rate in pharma sector.
Target 55 Insha ALLAH short-medium term.

Qadir bhai, no doubt it remains cheap in pharma sector. But i believe that profitability for the 2nd quarter will remain low or at max stagnant. EPS is not expected to rise because of the debt burden(refer to my last post). Similarly, the sales havent seen much increase as they stay below previous level. 1Q sales declined YoY. In addition, they have undergone some massive advertising in this quarter, which may increase the Expenses. I believe that Wait and See is the best startegy. Rest Allah knows the best.



Dude You cannot always value stocks based on their future growth , the books of the company also an important thing to consider .
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sAr on December 19, 2012, 07:03:55 PM
As i said, no doubt SEARLE remains value investment. But the book value stay at PKR49/share. Stock trades at 0.9x PBV. Company remains in growth phase. Dividend payout would remain low. Profitability is expected to be stagnant owing to Debt burden and limited sales growth.

Bohat Piyari company hai. I like this company very much.  Export bhi karte hain. Also sell to other company like  Feroze son's etc. Long-term investment kai liye Best hai.

But short term kai liye i said pressure main rehnai kai chances lagtai hain mujhe.

But as i said, ALLAH knows the best
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Valueestimator on December 19, 2012, 10:33:26 PM
there is one problem with this company.

inter company receivables of about 1 billion setelled in kind by land. so searl receives land against receibales. what is actual worth of that land no body knows except them
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on December 20, 2012, 12:41:26 AM
Lets see I am expecting tezi Insha ALLAH.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on December 20, 2012, 09:50:23 AM
there is one problem with this company.

inter company receivables of about 1 billion setelled in kind by land. so searl receives land against receibales. what is actual worth of that land no body knows except them

The TEZI seems in OIL & ENERGY Sector only --- SEARL still has 2-3 months to move Technically --- else ofcourse we really dont know about rallies --- Historically this scrip has never been part of rallies etc
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sAr on December 20, 2012, 11:01:21 AM
there is one problem with this company.

inter company receivables of about 1 billion setelled in kind by land. so searl receives land against receibales. what is actual worth of that land no body knows except them

The TEZI seems in OIL & ENERGY Sector only --- SEARL still has 2-3 months to move Technically --- else ofcourse we really dont know about rallies --- Historically this scrip has never been part of rallies etc

Oil and Gas? isnt it already over-valued? Atleast majority of it is near to its fair value. At max we can see the index at 17,000. After that? Index drivers are not going to baloon up
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on December 20, 2012, 08:28:28 PM
with 10-11 full year EPS expecting it to trade at P/E of 8 easily which gives target price 80+
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sAr on December 21, 2012, 09:23:34 AM
Qadir bhai i doubt that EPS. It should be between PKR 6-7. Performance hasnt really picked up. 2Q result will tell the future path. Lets see
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on December 27, 2012, 11:58:32 AM
with 10-11 full year EPS expecting it to trade at P/E of 8 easily which gives target price 80+

Dear Friend --- Appreciate if you please share any updated analysis which shows SEARL EPS 10-11 in coming Year ---- and also suggest as Technically (Only) when should be the RIGHT Entry Time and at What Level (if NOW) or later !!!  :thanks:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: llllll on December 27, 2012, 12:07:03 PM
Qadir bhai i doubt that EPS. It should be between PKR 6-7. Performance hasnt really picked up. 2Q result will tell the future path. Lets see
sold my B shares at 44 after it went xb but searl has surprised many by continuously floating above 43 since going xdxb,
i agree,it s better to  wait for latest figure before new entry
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on December 28, 2012, 11:28:05 AM
with 10-11 full year EPS expecting it to trade at P/E of 8 easily which gives target price 80+

Dear Friend --- Appreciate if you please share any updated analysis which shows SEARL EPS 10-11 in coming Year ---- and also suggest as Technically (Only) when should be the RIGHT Entry Time and at What Level (if NOW) or later !!!  :thanks:

We had received multiple calls for starting accumulation whereas we have yet to see the Expected EPS Projection so that we can decide as how much Capital shall we allocate for this scrip accordingly .. Thnx & Looking fwd for your sincere support!
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Koolfire on January 16, 2013, 09:13:32 PM
Pakistan Research | Pharmaceuticals

The Searle Company: Re-rating needed ~ presents the case of 14% earnings growth - BUY

Synopsis

Extending our coverage in relation to lowest PE companies, we see SEARL is one which is price play and hence relegated at FY13 PE of 3.7x and future outlook of the company looks good. The company presents possible

‘earnings growth’ option of 14% in FY13 in line with overall corporate sector profitability (hence presents the case of re-rating).

SEARL is glowing with cash cow brands like Pediteral, Rotec ,Hydrillin and Lumark which could be witnessed by consistent topline growth in last 5-years with margins also continuously on the increasing side. Though spate of financial charges has spoiled the bottom line growth to a great degree. However, growth in bottom line of some other FMCGs and phama companies has rejuvenated our belief that SEARL also presents value investment option.

Nevertheless, growth in profits is countered by compound growth of 20% over 5 years reflecting the price play in several key flag products. Earlier, we also reported our expectation of price increase in Ventek Tablets (which are used for the prophylaxis and chronic treatment of asthma) to increase from Rs252/packet(Rs18/tablet) to Rs310/packet(Rs22/tablet). This will be reflected in upcoming results.

It should be noted that the prices of medicines as per WPI index grew by 22% over Dec 2011-12 period and 11% growth over the same period as per CPI.

Triggers: ORS sales and inauguration of new plant

It is also worth discussing the fact that “Dehydration” caused by diarrhoea is a major cause of mortality among children and Oral Rehydration Salts (ORS) are used for the prevention and treatment. According to survey, the overall percentage of children who have suffered from diarrhoea is increased from 10% in FY09 to 11% in FY11. Balochistan and Punjab have shown increase in diarrhoea cases while Sindh and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa have same trend. Mianwali with 26%, Sanghar with 33%, Bannu with 33% and Harnai with 65% are the most affected districts in Punjab, Sindh, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan respectively.
SEARL specializes in the production of ORS under the brand name called Peditral which driving revenue both from demand increase and price inflation. As reported earlier a Rs10/packet of ORS increased to Rs25/packet over 6-8 months period.

Moreover, SEARL also inaugurated its new high-tech manufacturing plant in the city of Lahore, which is the second manufacturing unit after Karachi. This would allow Searle to benefit from economies of scale and also allow increasing market share.
Financial operations improving albeit margins

Decreasing current and quick ratio could provide vacuum to worry about the liquidity position of SEARL wherein it is repaying its fixed debt. Whereas other measures like inventory turnover days reflect better cycle in FY12. It should also be noted that the Gearing Ratio has been increased from 0.8% to 28% due arrangement of syndicate debt finance of Rs1bn at a rate of 12% which will be repaid in 5 years time. However, this would not affect significantly in long term as interest cover is still showing a better number than benchmark. This financing facility has been arranged by ultimate parent company.

As per said points, it seems that SEARL is relying more on long term finance rather short term. We can hope that this measure of raising finance will improve the current liquidity position as SEARL heavily relies on imported raw material for production; the increase in international prices of raw material along with further devaluation of the Pak Rupee has resulted in higher material costs. This measure could allow SEARL to chop out its reliance on imported raw material by having expansions measures.
 

Valuation

SEARL is yielding lowest P/E among peers and in the overall corporate sector which include FMCGs i.e. 3.7x where as Wyeth having the same market share is yielding at a rate of 7x whereas industry average is 8.6x which makes ‘SEARL’ quite an attractive proposition.

We consider SEARL a value investment opportunity and hence we do not see spate of dividend payout more than Rs 2/sh.





Standard Capital Securities (Pvt.) Ltd
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aalam on January 16, 2013, 10:15:18 PM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on January 16, 2013, 10:22:01 PM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: clearcrystle1 on January 16, 2013, 10:59:16 PM
 :skeptic:.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sAr on January 17, 2013, 10:56:52 AM
According to survey, the overall percentage of children who have suffered from diarrhoea is increased from 10% in FY09 to 11% in FY11.

Stats is outdated. Besides, 1% growth in 2 years is marginal. In addition to it there are many other companies who are selling ORS cheap with having contracts with NGO's and Military. Not much gain for SEARL at this front



Though spate of financial charges has spoiled the bottom line growth to a great degree. However, growth in bottom line of some other FMCGs and phama companies has rejuvenated our belief that SEARL also presents value investment option.

Yeh kia hawa main shot maari hai bhai? Other companies dont have this much debt structure. They have been through growth phase and now they are reaping its benefit. Besides, they can also incur FX losses. With price hike, elasticity of demand kicks in which may hit the sales growth(may be marginally but it do).

As per said points, it seems that SEARL is relying more on long term finance rather short term. We can hope that this measure of raising finance will improve the current liquidity position as SEARL heavily relies on imported raw material for production; the increase in international prices of raw material along with further devaluation of the Pak Rupee has resulted in higher material costs. This measure could allow SEARL to chop out its reliance on imported raw material by having expansions measures.


How could expansion plan will chop reliance on raw material? They are expanding to increase the Finished production, not to prepare there own raw material. The majority of Raw material pf Pharma sector is imported from abroad. I dont know what this person want to imply here
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on January 17, 2013, 03:27:24 PM
yeah i noticed these inconsistencies too ...  uuu
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: clearcrystle1 on January 17, 2013, 08:00:43 PM
Start Accumulating Searl in 42-43 range, trading on cheapest rate in pharma sector.
Target 55 Insha ALLAH short-medium term.

with 10-11 full year EPS expecting it to trade at P/E of 8 easily which gives target price 80+

qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.

Another strong buy call from Qadir Bhai... :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Valueestimator on January 17, 2013, 09:10:55 PM
Searl has purchased land worth 1.2 billion from its parent company.

that is a big question mark and that is the main reason of its depressed value.


there is no proper disclosure as well. parent company is the biggest customer and has paid for it in kind for the past receivables, in substance.


explore the financials pleasae. do they really need land or it was just a topi.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: clearcrystle1 on January 18, 2013, 12:17:52 AM
Qadir Bhai please advise...

Following your buy calls at different times I have invested in SEPL and SEARL. Now i have some extra cash and i want to invest it in one of these two stocks. Kindly guide that among these two scrips which one is more preferable?
Thanks in anticipation.   
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on January 18, 2013, 01:09:47 PM
Qadir Bhai please advise...

Following your buy calls at different times I have invested in SEPL and SEARL. Now i have some extra cash and i want to invest it in one of these two stocks. Kindly guide that among these two scrips which one is more preferable?
Thanks in anticipation.

Every year SEPL Trading Cycle stays as such "35 - 55" so is for SEARL, anyhow this year its expected that SEARL could touch 30's before rising back due to Investors Interest in Money Market >>>
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on January 22, 2013, 02:58:24 PM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.

Show begins
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Rizwan Bhatti on January 22, 2013, 03:18:14 PM
 :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on February 06, 2013, 11:49:53 AM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.

Show begins



Laoooooooooo
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on February 06, 2013, 11:57:54 AM
When is SEARL BOD meeting?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on February 06, 2013, 01:25:25 PM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.

We received confirmation from PK for SEARL speeding up to 54 >>> Value Investors can take positions freely >>>> :clap1:

Show begins



Laoooooooooo
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: clearcrystle1 on February 06, 2013, 06:39:52 PM
Touched three month high today with 45.99. :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on February 11, 2013, 11:06:09 AM
Touched three month high today with 45.99. :good

>>>>> Solid Move we had also accumulated some >>>> Good Luck
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Dove on February 11, 2013, 11:16:38 PM
Touched three month high today with 45.99. :good

>>>>> Solid Move we had also accumulated some >>>> Good Luck
With the new drug policy being approved shortly and the prices of drugs being attached to US $, the drug companies are likely to benefit immensely and the share price can appreciate substantiously but this needs confirmation in few days time.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on February 12, 2013, 12:18:06 AM
Touched three month high today with 45.99. :good

>>>>> Solid Move we had also accumulated some >>>> Good Luck
With the new drug policy being approved shortly and the prices of drugs being attached to US $, the drug companies are likely to benefit immensely and the share price can appreciate substantiously but this needs confirmation in few days time.

Accumulattttttttttttteeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, SEARL had been in limelight from quite a few days by now that Investor had suddenly started picking up this STAR Performer >>>>> as per this forum Champion its Target Price is @ 70 >>>> Thnx
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on February 21, 2013, 11:12:35 AM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.

Result >> ?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on February 21, 2013, 03:43:19 PM
5.82 hy EPS
Get ready for 60+ Insha ALLAH
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on February 21, 2013, 04:44:19 PM
Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww >>>>>> Gr8 Alhamdulillah :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ali.zia194 on February 22, 2013, 09:38:35 AM
 :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on February 22, 2013, 09:39:16 AM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.

Show begins



Laoooooooooo



Here we go the rides start... :D
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Sarmad on February 22, 2013, 10:53:46 AM
Is entry feasible at current levels???
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SAFI on February 22, 2013, 11:55:10 AM
all  :thanks: to Qadir Bhai (y)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on February 22, 2013, 02:14:55 PM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.

Show begins



Laoooooooooo



Here we go the rides start... :D


One more... ;)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: naumaan on February 22, 2013, 03:20:11 PM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.

Show begins



Laoooooooooo



Here we go the rides start... :D


One more... ;)

Only one more Abdul Qadir bhai  :o ... you set the tp of 70+  :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ali.zia194 on February 25, 2013, 09:32:17 AM
 :thanks Qadir bhai
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Irfy on March 05, 2013, 07:59:43 PM
Can I buy Searl ta the current levels of Rs.47/-.... please advice...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: DEVDAS on March 05, 2013, 08:29:49 PM
Keeping n view it's results, it's good share to b kept n portfolio.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on March 06, 2013, 11:53:48 AM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.

Show begins



Laoooooooooo



Here we go the rides start... :D


One more... ;)

Only one more Abdul Qadir bhai  :o ... you set the tp of 70+  :good

Great CALL seems TURNONG to TRADE from now >>>>>>>>>  :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on March 07, 2013, 02:13:22 PM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.

Show begins



Laoooooooooo



Here we go the rides start... :D


One more... ;)

 :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on March 07, 2013, 02:50:10 PM
searl half year profit is 5.8

Glaxo full year profit is 5.02

why is searl at 50 and glaxo at 80  :confused1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: newface on March 07, 2013, 11:40:24 PM
Laoooooooooooooo kal SEARL ko Uppper Lock
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on March 08, 2013, 10:38:37 AM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.

Show begins



Laoooooooooo



Here we go the rides start... :D


One more... ;)

 :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:



laooooooooooo
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: newface on March 08, 2013, 06:49:55 PM
Laoooooooooooooo kal SEARL ko Uppper Lock

On Monday,  once again upper Lock.
Many consecutive ULock may not be ruled out.
Its earning is stronger than (double) GLAXO.

Laooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo SEARLE . InshALLA
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: newface on March 08, 2013, 06:52:12 PM
 :dance :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on March 09, 2013, 12:47:33 AM
yes that fact was known before the results  :dunno:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on March 09, 2013, 11:57:15 AM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.

Show begins



Laoooooooooo



Here we go the rides start... :D


One more... ;)

 :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:



laooooooooooo


Masha ALLAH 30% return from 16th January 2013 , what else you need.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on March 09, 2013, 02:10:34 PM
The well estimated level 70 seems getting achieved in coming week >>> Good Luck :thanks:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Irfy on March 09, 2013, 11:15:45 PM
If people like me missed the train of Searle, can we still buy at the current levels? Because it is still far away from the Rs70/- target...? All seniors, please advice you best, so that I can buy first time in the morning on Monday.....
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on March 10, 2013, 12:07:41 AM
If people like me missed the train of Searle, can we still buy at the current levels? Because it is still far away from the Rs70/- target...? All seniors, please advice you best, so that I can buy first time in the morning on Monday.....

I will not advise to buy above my buying range that was 40-42
You can go for glaxo between 80-81, Target 90+ Insha ALLAH
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: abeerzia on March 11, 2013, 10:02:44 AM
Is there any change in Searle's Target Price of 70+?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on March 11, 2013, 10:30:13 AM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.

Show begins



Laoooooooooo



Here we go the rides start... :D


One more... ;)

 :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:



laooooooooo
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on March 11, 2013, 10:53:10 AM
Almost 40% return...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: abeerzia on March 11, 2013, 11:21:27 AM
@Qadir do you advise to hold or sell at this level?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Irfy on March 11, 2013, 01:50:38 PM
Searl is not stopping even in manda timings..
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Sarmad on March 12, 2013, 07:11:10 PM
Gr8 call Abdul qadir bhai MashAllah gud return :thumbsup_anim:...Please advise when to sell
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on March 12, 2013, 08:25:52 PM
Gr8 call Abdul qadir bhai MashAllah gud return :thumbsup_anim:...Please advise when to sell

Gud time to book the profits now , as it has already provided 15-16 rs straight jump, covert your investment in glaxo below 80
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SAFI on March 12, 2013, 08:36:09 PM
Gr8 call Abdul qadir bhai MashAllah gud return :thumbsup_anim:...Please advise when to sell

Gud time to book the profits now , as it has already provided 15-16 rs straight jump, covert your investment in glaxo below 80

 :thanks:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Idris on March 12, 2013, 09:02:09 PM
Salam Qadir bhai,
Do you see it touching 70 within 2-3 months at the time of next result? I am willing to hold!
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on March 12, 2013, 09:07:30 PM
Salam Qadir bhai,
Do you see it touching 70 within 2-3 months at the time of next result? I am willing to hold!


65-70 is quite possible, but searl is not a good payout company so long term holding is not advisable from my point of view.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Sarmad on March 12, 2013, 10:22:49 PM
Gr8 call Abdul qadir bhai MashAllah gud return :thumbsup_anim:...Please advise when to sell

Gud time to book the profits now , as it has already provided 15-16 rs straight jump, covert your investment in glaxo below 80

 :thanks:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Idris on March 12, 2013, 11:23:37 PM


Salam Qadir bhai,
Do you see it touching 70 within 2-3 months at the time of next result? I am willing to hold!

65-70 is quite possible, but searl is not a good payout company so long term holding is not advisable from my point of view.

Thanks Qadir bhai. As advised, I will keep it only for capital gain and will start selling between 65-70.
Thanks for this great call!
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: DEVDAS on March 13, 2013, 02:08:06 PM
What is going on in Searle at 57.00
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: clearcrystle1 on March 18, 2013, 07:45:16 PM
Salam Qadir bhai,
Do you see it touching 70 within 2-3 months at the time of next result? I am willing to hold!


65-70 is quite possible, but searl is not a good payout company so long term holding is not advisable from my point of view.

 QADIR BHAI DO YOU WANT TO SAY THAT "A BIRD IN HAND IS BETTER THAN TWO IN THE BUSH",,,,,,
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sAr on March 18, 2013, 11:21:07 PM
Its trades are depicting Clear basing structure around 56. Even in this mandee it is managing to close above the level of 56. Besides, There is substantial volume in last 5 to 6 sessions. Fingers crossed. :confused1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Sarmad on March 23, 2013, 11:09:01 AM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.

Show begins



Laoooooooooo



Here we go the rides start... :D


One more... ;)

 :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:



laooooooooo


 :shoaby: :shoaby: :clap1: :clap1:
 65 karo isko jaldi
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on March 23, 2013, 03:01:46 PM
Dear Friends --- Due to Excellent Results and Tangible Growth Potentials we see SEARL @ 70 and beyond as was being Very Well Estimated by Mr. Farzooq thus keep thsi Jewel to Cash it above 70 as we had seen its Contineous Accumulation Above 60 even therefore its surely Confirms its Journey towards 70 and beyond soon In Sha Allah >>>>> Good Luck
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on March 29, 2013, 11:07:31 AM
SEAR is still at ADD Stance being shown Very Strong Suport @ 60 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> towards 70's >>>>>> Good Luck
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on April 03, 2013, 11:23:45 AM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.

Show begins



Laoooooooooo



Here we go the rides start... :D


One more... ;)

 :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:



laooooooooo


 :shoaby: :shoaby: :clap1: :clap1:
 65 karo isko jaldi



 :dance :dance uuu uuu uuu
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on April 03, 2013, 11:41:08 AM
SEAR is still at ADD Stance being shown Very Strong Suport @ 60 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> towards 70's >>>>>> Good Luck

 :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Sarmad on April 03, 2013, 07:16:53 PM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.

Show begins



Laoooooooooo



Here we go the rides start... :D


One more... ;)

 :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:



laooooooooo


 :shoaby: :shoaby: :clap1: :clap1:
 65 karo isko jaldi



 :dance :dance uuu uuu uuu


A.Qadir bhai till what price should we hold it???
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on April 03, 2013, 08:05:53 PM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.

Show begins



Laoooooooooo



Here we go the rides start... :D


One more... ;)

 :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:



laooooooooo


 :shoaby: :shoaby: :clap1: :clap1:
 65 karo isko jaldi



 :dance :dance uuu uuu uuu


A.Qadir bhai till what price should we hold it???


My target is around 70-72
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: PK on April 04, 2013, 12:33:52 AM
been hearing abt 90's  :skeptic:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on April 04, 2013, 10:08:20 AM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.

Show begins



Laoooooooooo



Here we go the rides start... :D


One more... ;)

 :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:



laooooooooo


 :shoaby: :shoaby: :clap1: :clap1:
 65 karo isko jaldi



 :dance :dance uuu uuu uuu


A.Qadir bhai till what price should we hold it???


My target is around 70-72




 :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on April 05, 2013, 10:07:08 AM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.



Target almost acheived today , congrats to searl holders for earning almost 80 % return in 2 months  :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on April 05, 2013, 10:11:04 AM
Dear Friends --- Due to Excellent Results and Tangible Growth Potentials we see SEARL @ 70 and beyond as was being Very Well Estimated by Mr. Farzooq thus keep thsi Jewel to Cash it above 70 as we had seen its Contineous Accumulation Above 60 even therefore its surely Confirms its Journey towards 70 and beyond soon In Sha Allah >>>>> Good Luck

Thanks Qadir Bhai and Friends >>>>>>>>> we also have heard rumors of SEARL going beyond 80 >>>>>> Thnx   :shoaby: :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on April 17, 2013, 09:52:27 AM
SEARL Survived Correction shows Very Strong Support above 70 >>>>> Good Luck
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on April 23, 2013, 10:50:38 AM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.



Target almost acheived today , congrats to searl holders for earning almost 80 % return in 2 months  :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:



Target acheived.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Sarmad on April 24, 2013, 11:44:35 AM
qadir bro, whats ur final verdict?about serl  :thanks:

Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.



Target almost acheived today , congrats to searl holders for earning almost 80 % return in 2 months  :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:



Target acheived.



Going beyond target price..Credit goes to Abdul Qadir Bhai for timely Call.....Moshi Moshi Qadir Bhai :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Idris on April 24, 2013, 12:00:14 PM


Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.


Target acheived.

Qadir bhai
Many thanks for the call. I had sold 50% @60. Kindly suggest if I should hold now for little more time for 85+. Do you think it is achievable in near future of a month?    Regards
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on April 24, 2013, 12:33:05 PM


Strong buy for value investors
I am expecting it 70+ in medium term Insha ALLAH.
Trading at P/E of 3 what else you need.


Target acheived.

Qadir bhai
Many thanks for the call. I had sold 50% @60. Kindly suggest if I should hold now for little more time for 85+. Do you think it is achievable in near future of a month?    Regards


Profit taking advised.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: clearcrystle1 on April 24, 2013, 11:10:02 PM
@ ABDUL QADIR  :thanks:
NO DOUBT THAT BEAUTY OF THIS FORUM IS THE BUY CALLS OF ABDUL QADIR.
 
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on April 24, 2013, 11:12:11 PM
 :D cant argue with that

@ ABDUL QADIR  :thanks:
NO DOUBT THAT BEAUTY OF THIS FORUM IS THE BUY CALLS OF ABDUL QADIR.
 

Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Sarmad on April 25, 2013, 09:39:56 AM
just rising and rising.... :dance :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Pansota on April 25, 2013, 10:47:32 AM
SEARL has overtaken GLAXO... this is EXTRAORDINARY!!! :D
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on April 25, 2013, 11:02:45 AM
Dear Friends --- Due to Excellent Results and Tangible Growth Potentials we see SEARL @ 70 and beyond as was being Very Well Estimated by Mr. Farzooq thus keep thsi Jewel to Cash it above 70 as we had seen its Contineous Accumulation Above 60 even therefore its surely Confirms its Journey towards 70 and beyond soon In Sha Allah >>>>> Good Luck

Thanks Qadir Bhai and Friends >>>>>>>>> we also have heard rumors of SEARL going beyond 80 >>>>>> Thnx   :shoaby: :shoaby:

Alhamdulillah Good Luck Holders >>>>>  :shoaby: :shoaby: :good :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Pansota on April 27, 2013, 06:18:27 PM
GLAXO and SEARL both closed at exactly 78.06 !  :ohmy: a super over on Monday ? :skeptic:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Pansota on May 07, 2013, 10:27:14 PM
PK bro   90s on hai phir? :skeptic:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: PK on May 08, 2013, 12:06:44 AM
Yaar pansota bhai suna to yehi tha 90s ka
Let see ..  :s1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on May 08, 2013, 01:15:22 AM
PK bro   90s on hai phir? :skeptic:


43 per koi buy nhi kr rha tha and now above 70  ;)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: RSI Fan on May 08, 2013, 11:13:46 AM
PK bro   90s on hai phir? :skeptic:


43 per koi buy nhi kr rha tha and now above 70  ;)

43 per fully invested they abb cash hai  ::)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Pansota on May 09, 2013, 02:54:27 PM
SEARL appears all set for a 90 target....  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Pansota on May 20, 2013, 02:47:20 PM
 :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Salammembers on May 28, 2013, 08:08:18 PM
If iblhl tgt is 40 then 85 plus is reasonable and realistic tgt; still holding 45 wala maal and its B due to possibility of official price rise because unofficially pharma cos have already increase their products price  :rtfm:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sAr on June 07, 2013, 12:42:36 PM
 :o :o :good :good

I beleive Price Increase is on the cards. Whole Pharma sector is rising.

Scrips with there PE.

Glaxo 20x
feroz  9.85x
HINOON 9.79x
IBLHL 8.5X


While, SEARL is trading at 8.1X. Searl still has upside potential. Should trade around 100 soon. Any increase in Drug Prices will increase the valuation.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: engrusama on June 07, 2013, 11:32:36 PM
:o :o :good :good

I beleive Price Increase is on the cards. Whole Pharma sector is rising.

Scrips with there PE.

Glaxo 20x
feroz  9.85x
HINOON 9.79x
IBLHL 8.5X


While, SEARL is trading at 8.1X. Searl still has upside potential. Should trade around 100 soon. Any increase in Drug Prices will increase the valuation.

Well there isn't any definite news but Government has to... Many drugs are being made in loss, case in point thyroxine... This is because 100% raw material for pharma is imported. Similarly, 150 cases(import permission) of controlled substances are pending with DRAP for import. Once cleared,, big boost os expected.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: M&M on June 08, 2013, 04:31:50 PM
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-3-182431-Local-brokerage-houses-deluged-with-investment-queries
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on June 08, 2013, 05:25:19 PM
100 for sure  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: PK on June 11, 2013, 03:59:44 PM
been hearing abt 90's  :skeptic:
Laoo 100  :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Pansota on June 11, 2013, 04:25:36 PM
SEARL appears all set for a 90 target....  :fingerscrossed1:
:shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Salammembers on June 12, 2013, 12:27:50 PM
mkt may 125-150 ki awazain haay,
kia 50% aaj sell kaar doo?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Salammembers on June 14, 2013, 09:46:14 PM
mkt may 125-150 ki awazain haay,
kia 50% aaj sell kaar doo?

those still holding can now Relax,
showed SOLID support at 88 matbal
100 torna haay and beyound jana haay
but how far? no idea
agar sirf 10 rupee k liay hold kia huwa haay tu exit at todays closing
fully justified
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Salammembers on June 18, 2013, 12:29:34 AM
Found solid support around 88 again today,  100 lagta haay and can cross 125 but I am not buying at current, aicl appears safer choice though v may c  Ul's in searl again  soon
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on July 21, 2013, 10:01:23 PM
SEARLE :125-135
GLAXO :150-160
FEROZSONS :130-145
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umair vohra on July 22, 2013, 12:27:20 PM
SEARLE :125-135
GLAXO :150-160
FEROZSONS :130-145

feroz bahi sirf 130???
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on July 22, 2013, 02:27:58 PM
Ferozsons : 130-145 its my opinion.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on July 24, 2013, 11:45:12 AM
SERAL seems as the BEST Choice amongst all >>>>>>>>>>>> 130   :fingerscrossed1: :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: RSI Fan on July 28, 2013, 01:22:16 AM
SERAL seems as the BEST Choice amongst all >>>>>>>>>>>> 130   :fingerscrossed1: :biggthumpup:
Global, what time frame are you looking at? And any idea about the announcement?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on July 28, 2013, 12:37:30 PM
SEP - OCT  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: altajjari on August 12, 2013, 01:51:20 PM
SEARL TP KYA HE
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umair vohra on August 16, 2013, 11:33:36 AM
lau entry in searl
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umair vohra on August 19, 2013, 02:39:45 PM
lay maal start  :bangin: :bangin: :bangin: sector ka result theek nahi araha
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on August 20, 2013, 03:15:13 AM
Mostly multinational pharmaceuticals trades on multiple of 12 to 15 and above.
At which multiple should local and national pharmaceuticals companies they deserves to be trades ?
Kindly reply to my post.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umair vohra on August 20, 2013, 04:25:42 PM
RESULT SAY PHELYY KHASIOO KI TRAHA HE CHALNA HAI IS NAI HOLD STRONGLY

AT LEAST 125+ PER SALE KARNA
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on August 20, 2013, 05:34:56 PM
Dear Poker Face what's the impact on EPS of SEARLE if discount rate hike in coming monetary policy.

According to annual report 30 june 2012, Page 57 :

18.1 The holding company has arranged syndicate term finance facilities of Rs. 1 billion for a tenure of three to five years from Habib Bank Limited, Standard Chartered Bank (Pakistan) Limited and Bank of Punjab, collectively referred to as Lead Advisors and Arrangers. The facilities are repayable from November 2012
till December 2016.
The mark-up on above facilities is six months KIBOR plus 2.5% per annum, payable semi-annually in arrears.
The facility is secured by:
- 1st pari-passu mortgage over all present and future immovable assets of the holding company with a 25% security margin.
- 1st pari-passu charge with 25% security margin over land (and other immovable assets) located at Plot No. 24A/1 & 2-A, Delhi Mercantile Muslim, Co-operative Housing Society, Block 7&8, Main Shahra-e-Faisal, Karachi.

links :
http://www.searlecompany.com/remos_downloads/ar1112.69.pdf
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on August 21, 2013, 02:07:48 AM
Dear Poker Face what's the impact on EPS of SEARLE if discount rate hike in coming monetary policy.

According to annual report 30 june 2012, Page 57 :

18.1 The holding company has arranged syndicate term finance facilities of Rs. 1 billion for a tenure of three to five years from Habib Bank Limited, Standard Chartered Bank (Pakistan) Limited and Bank of Punjab, collectively referred to as Lead Advisors and Arrangers. The facilities are repayable from November 2012
till December 2016.
The mark-up on above facilities is six months KIBOR plus 2.5% per annum, payable semi-annually in arrears.
The facility is secured by:
- 1st pari-passu mortgage over all present and future immovable assets of the holding company with a 25% security margin.
- 1st pari-passu charge with 25% security margin over land (and other immovable assets) located at Plot No. 24A/1 & 2-A, Delhi Mercantile Muslim, Co-operative Housing Society, Block 7&8, Main Shahra-e-Faisal, Karachi.

links :
http://www.searlecompany.com/remos_downloads/ar1112.69.pdf
Dear Seniors and Poker Face Bhai i am very thankful to all if you give your opinions on this.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umair vohra on August 22, 2013, 01:14:52 PM
kiya howa tera wada??????
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on August 22, 2013, 03:21:23 PM
september ka akhar tak hai arada .
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umair vohra on August 22, 2013, 03:34:59 PM
september ka akhar tak hai arada .

TARIQ KAHA DEKHTY HO SEARL KO BEFORE RESULT???
WESY ITNI MANDI MAI BHE MASHAALLAH SAY As such koi khas down nahi howa
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on August 22, 2013, 04:43:29 PM
september ka akhar tak hai arada .

TARIQ KAHA DEKHTY HO SEARL KO BEFORE RESULT???
WESY ITNI MANDI MAI BHE MASHAALLAH SAY As such koi khas down nahi howa

they have also started marketing new product - vitamin water   (http://www.searlevitaminwater.com/)

as its price is unregulated, should improve margins going forward if product is successful.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 07585 on August 22, 2013, 04:52:55 PM
september ka akhar tak hai arada .

TARIQ KAHA DEKHTY HO SEARL KO BEFORE RESULT???
WESY ITNI MANDI MAI BHE MASHAALLAH SAY As such koi khas down nahi howa

they have also started marketing new product - vitamin water   (http://www.searlevitaminwater.com/)

as its price is unregulated, should improve margins going forward if product is successful.

As far as the product is concerned, it is good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on August 22, 2013, 07:23:43 PM
september ka akhar tak hai arada .

TARIQ KAHA DEKHTY HO SEARL KO BEFORE RESULT???
WESY ITNI MANDI MAI BHE MASHAALLAH SAY As such koi khas down nahi howa
If mandi continue it will around 75 to 80 in my opinion afterwards its look good and reach its TP, INSHA ALLAH
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umair vohra on August 26, 2013, 02:14:58 PM
september ka akhar tak hai arada .

TARIQ KAHA DEKHTY HO SEARL KO BEFORE RESULT???
WESY ITNI MANDI MAI BHE MASHAALLAH SAY As such koi khas down nahi howa
If mandi continue it will around 75 to 80 in my opinion afterwards its look good and reach its TP, INSHA ALLAH

MANDI K BAAD BHE KOI KHAS FARAQ NAHI HOWA
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariqmbahrm on August 26, 2013, 09:55:49 PM
Umair VOHRA  bhai ap ne kafi loss kia he PHARMA me i think thats why so much negative for whole Pharma sector in this forum and on Stock Guro Forum as well. i see SEARL 120 till Result INSHA ALLAH .
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umair vohra on August 27, 2013, 11:17:59 AM
Umair VOHRA  bhai ap ne kafi loss kia he PHARMA me i think thats why so much negative for whole Pharma sector in this forum and on Stock Guro Forum as well. i see SEARL 120 till Result INSHA ALLAH .


hahaha aray nahi bahi koi loss nahi ALHAMDULLIAH kamaya he hai :)
IN SHA ALLAH
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on August 29, 2013, 04:38:40 AM
Pharma sector looks strong in recent correction.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umair vohra on September 04, 2013, 02:58:26 PM
Pharma sector looks strong in recent correction.

 :bangin: :bangin: :bangin: :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on September 05, 2013, 01:21:44 AM
Pharma sector looks strong in recent correction.

 :bangin: :bangin: :bangin: :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:
maybe big players had given pressure for collecting the stock on lower rates.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umair vohra on September 05, 2013, 11:09:24 AM
INDEED
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on September 05, 2013, 02:47:42 PM
New Product New Revenue = Enhanced EPS = Higher Return on Investment  :fingerscrossed1: :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Sharjeel on September 05, 2013, 04:15:07 PM
All Pharma up except HINOON  :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umair vohra on September 13, 2013, 11:31:34 AM
RESULT KAAB EXPECTED HAI ???
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on September 13, 2013, 02:30:52 PM
last year in september 2012 ends, maybe this year also in last week of september 2013.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umair vohra on September 13, 2013, 03:51:37 PM
yaar Tariq result say phely kaha dekhty ho issay ???
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umair vohra on September 13, 2013, 04:27:23 PM
chal bahi cap lagja
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on September 13, 2013, 05:03:58 PM
yaar Tariq result say phely kaha dekhty ho issay ???
Umair Bhai if the market will stay positive its around 90 to 98 in my view.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umair vohra on September 14, 2013, 04:54:34 PM
yaar Tariq result say phely kaha dekhty ho issay ???
Umair Bhai if the market will stay positive its around 90 to 98 in my view.

vitamin water thakkal drink i dont like  :thumbsdown_anim: :thumbsdown_anim:
per khair hai result say phely atleast 100 cross karta yeh to sure ho mai
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on September 14, 2013, 08:07:23 PM
yaar Tariq result say phely kaha dekhty ho issay ???
Umair Bhai if the market will stay positive its around 90 to 98 in my view.

vitamin water thakkal drink i dont like  :thumbsdown_anim: :thumbsdown_anim:
per khair hai result say phely atleast 100 cross karta yeh to sure ho mai

i dont like it either.
vitamin water i mean

i tried the apple one .. it tasted like medicine
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sAr on September 15, 2013, 03:47:30 PM
Try their Peach flavour. Its taste is just like real Peach. Its probably the only Flavor worth Drinking. I tried their Berry aswell it was just OK
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umair vohra on September 16, 2013, 11:27:46 AM
chal bahi uper lock lag bhe ja  :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on September 17, 2013, 08:06:14 PM
good result expected eps will around Rs 12 and nice dividend payouts.
Also its subsidiary IBL HealthCare Limited have shown good result.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: RSI Fan on September 17, 2013, 10:15:14 PM
good result expected eps will around Rs 12 and nice dividend payouts.
Also its subsidiary IBL HealthCare Limited have shown good result.


BM on Monday 23rd September at 12.00 noon....IBL HealthCare payout 15%cash 15% bonus
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: RSI Fan on September 18, 2013, 10:14:32 AM
good result expected eps will around Rs 12 and nice dividend payouts.
Also its subsidiary IBL HealthCare Limited have shown good result.


BM on Monday 23rd September at 12.00 noon....IBL HealthCare payout 15%cash 15% bonus

Can anyone post any result previews/expectations (reports from brokerage houses ) for this share please
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umair vohra on September 18, 2013, 11:53:29 AM
EPS Between 11 to 12
 DPS Max 30%
Bonus 30%

per i m sure ek do uper locks ka game baki hai is mai
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on September 18, 2013, 05:32:49 PM
EPS Between 11 to 12
 DPS Max 30%
Bonus 30%

per i m sure ek do uper locks ka game baki hai is mai
INSHA ALLAH going up in near term.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Sharjeel on September 23, 2013, 03:30:32 PM
EPS Between 11 to 12
 DPS Max 30%
Bonus 30%

per i m sure ek do uper locks ka game baki hai is mai


EPS 11.11
DPS 20%
Bonus 30%

Good Umair  :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on September 23, 2013, 03:42:37 PM
Searle result according to expectation and good payouts.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on September 23, 2013, 05:40:04 PM
SEP - OCT  :fingerscrossed1:

 :good :good :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on September 23, 2013, 05:41:41 PM
SERAL seems as the BEST Choice amongst all >>>>>>>>>>>> 130   :fingerscrossed1: :biggthumpup:
Global, what time frame are you looking at? And any idea about the announcement?

 :shoaby: :shoaby: :good :good :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zedenc on September 23, 2013, 06:54:04 PM
EPS Between 11 to 12
 DPS Max 30%
Bonus 30%

per i m sure ek do uper locks ka game baki hai is mai


EPS 11.11
DPS 20%
Bonus 30%

Good Umair  :thumbsup_anim:
what should be the TPs upto X-date and after that ?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: UT on September 24, 2013, 01:26:55 AM
If X rate is 90, XDXB price will be 67. To have XDXB price of Rs 90, X closing rate should be 120; which is not impossible.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: RSI Fan on September 24, 2013, 02:15:34 AM
If X rate is 90, XDXB price will be 67. To have XDXB price of Rs 90, X closing rate should be 120; which is not impossible.

quite right!!  Should give 110-115 definitely from here which means three solid locks at least :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on September 24, 2013, 01:35:29 PM
If X rate is 90, XDXB price will be 67. To have XDXB price of Rs 90, X closing rate should be 120; which is not impossible.

quite right!!  Should give 110-115 definitely from here which means three solid locks at least :good
Definitely it should be110 to 120 before its XD XB.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on September 24, 2013, 02:32:13 PM
'SEARLE 'Book closing from October 18, 2013 to October 24, 2013.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: MZ on September 24, 2013, 03:57:51 PM
SEARL: FY13 result review

The Searle Company Limited (SEARL) announced financial results for FY13. SEARL reported net profit of Rs 524mn (EPS: Rs 11.11) increased by 39% against Rs 378mn (EPS: Rs 8.02) in FY12.

Company announced a year ended final cash dividend of Rs.2 per share and 30% stock dividend for the FY13 against Re 1 per cash dividend and 40% stock dividend in FY12.

Financial highlights:


SEARL posted net revenue of Rs 5.150bn in FY13, 4% higher than the last year’s revenue of Rs 4.93bn. The Gross profit margin has been increased by 10% in FY13, which we believe is due to effect of increase in prices of medicines this year.

Where in other income account has increased by 4.7%, company reported other income as Rs 51mn in FY13 against Rs 49mn in FY12.

Valuations

SEARL yields FY14 PE of 7.1x (based on our pretext of Rs 13/sh EPS forecast) and 4% dividend yield for FY13. We maintain HOLD stance for SEARL.

SCS Research
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Atif1 on October 02, 2013, 10:35:41 AM
why it will and now trade at pe of 7-8 , while other stocks of pharma are trading at much higher multiples. glaxo at price of 110 trading at pe of 22, same to Wyeth which trades at pe above 20 now.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sAr on October 02, 2013, 12:27:13 PM
why it will and now trade at pe of 7-8 , while other stocks of pharma are trading at much higher multiples. glaxo at price of 110 trading at pe of 22, same to Wyeth which trades at pe above 20 now.

The company has 2nd/3rd tier Auditors "MehmoodIdreesQamar" , Which surely cast doubt over veracity of Transactions in the company. There may be some shady transactions.

Presence of IBL Health care as subsidiary also have some  negative impression assoiciated with it, as it may be getting used as dumping vehicle for Not-so-wanted Sales/Expenses Transactions besides siphoning off funds.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on October 02, 2013, 09:44:58 PM
1.' SEARLE ' Auditors : Grant Thornton Anjum Asim Shahid Rahman.
Anjum Asim Shahid Rahman is a member firm of Grant Thornton International in Pakistan. Network in Pakistan comprises of offices in the three major cities of Pakistan, i.e. Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad.

links :
http://www.gtpak.com/

2. Mostly Pakistani national pharmaceuticals are trade on P/E multiple of 7 to 10.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sAr on October 03, 2013, 09:36:53 AM
My bad. They changed it. Uptill last year it was MIQ.

http://searlecompany.com/remos_downloads/Mandatory%20Requirements%20For%20IBLHC%20as%20per%20SECP.68.pdf (http://searlecompany.com/remos_downloads/Mandatory%20Requirements%20For%20IBLHC%20as%20per%20SECP.68.pdf)

Even GT is not Big 4. Khair i agree with you, Local companies warrant Lower PEs as compared to Multi-national.

Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on October 03, 2013, 03:06:08 PM
My bad. They changed it. Uptill last year it was MIQ.

http://searlecompany.com/remos_downloads/Mandatory%20Requirements%20For%20IBLHC%20as%20per%20SECP.68.pdf (http://searlecompany.com/remos_downloads/Mandatory%20Requirements%20For%20IBLHC%20as%20per%20SECP.68.pdf)

Even GT is not Big 4. Khair i agree with you, Local companies warrant Lower PEs as compared to Multi-national.
For latest information till nine months report 31 march 2013 :
links :  http://www.searlecompany.com/remos_downloads/1q1213.75.pdf
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on October 04, 2013, 05:20:47 PM
Searle good volumes today and on its upwards journey INSHA ALLAH.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariq54 on October 05, 2013, 04:58:39 PM
Searle annual report 30 june 2013 :

links : http://www.searlecompany.com/remos_downloads/ar1213.77.pdf
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: MZ on October 23, 2013, 12:53:46 PM
Board Meetings (http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?0.04154189536347985&id=4&nid=047914)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on December 01, 2013, 03:43:24 AM
http://www.searlecompany.com/remos_downloads/spl3q2013.81.pdf

 

They seem to extend loans to their subsidiary so it can buy products from them.
they also extend good credit terms to their subsidiary.
hmm
 :skeptic:
standalone basis per sales 1.629 billion
consolidated basis par 1.350 billion
similarly, eps on standalone basis is 5.03 but falls down to  2.41 on consolidated basis
thora ajeeb scene hai
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ayubkhuhro on December 01, 2013, 01:05:39 PM
http://www.searlecompany.com/remos_downloads/spl3q2013.81.pdf

 

They seem to extend loans to their subsidiary so it can buy products from them.
they also extend good credit terms to their subsidiary.
hmm
 :skeptic:
standalone basis per sales 1.629 billion
consolidated basis par 1.350 billion
similarly, eps on standalone basis is 5.03 but falls down to  2.41 on consolidated basis
thora ajeeb scene hai




@ SBM: Have you ever read a financial report. Consolidated EPS is 5.03 and stand alone if 2.4.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on December 01, 2013, 06:25:26 PM
http://www.searlecompany.com/remos_downloads/spl3q2013.81.pdf

 

They seem to extend loans to their subsidiary so it can buy products from them.
they also extend good credit terms to their subsidiary.
hmm
 :skeptic:
standalone basis per sales 1.629 billion
consolidated basis par 1.350 billion
similarly, eps on standalone basis is 5.03 but falls down to  2.41 on consolidated basis
thora ajeeb scene hai




@ SBM: Have you ever read a financial report. Consolidated EPS is 5.03 and stand alone if 2.4.

no yar .. before searle i have only read one report before, engro .. it had standalone result first and consolidated result later... so i thought this was this same. ghalti hogae. sorry

waisay what do you think of engro ?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ayubkhuhro on December 01, 2013, 09:37:19 PM
jis cheez ki thread hai woh cheez ki baat karo. Aik report parhi hai aur apnay aap ko don samajh liya. Engro ki thread main engro ki baat karo.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sAr on December 02, 2013, 12:39:49 AM
Ouch.... Ayub Bhai, itne Cool Mahol main Chill Karain. ::) ::)

SBM se ghalti hogai as he mentioned  :ohmy: :ohmy:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on December 31, 2013, 03:55:11 AM
they had sales of 5,959 million in pakistan
and out of that 5072 million was to an associate. whom they advance money to buy from them
no independent director on the board

group seems to be pretty aggressive in expanding ....
they have franchises of Dunkin Donuts and run Habitt stores as well

i think ferozesons is a better local company to invest with
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: GlobalInvestor on December 31, 2013, 09:40:15 AM
SERAL seems as the BEST Choice amongst all >>>>>>>>>>>> 130   :fingerscrossed1: :biggthumpup:

Target Achieved  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: faisalkhan on January 17, 2014, 04:59:45 PM
STIll moving on >>>>>>>>>>> :shoaby: :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on February 12, 2014, 09:24:49 PM
Half year eps 6.42 v 4.47
2nd quarter eps 2.55 v 2.82

http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=050691&pagesize=1&pageno=2
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sAr on February 12, 2014, 11:08:13 PM
margins ki lag gai is quarter main... :skeptic:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sAr on March 29, 2014, 07:53:40 PM
http://www.dawn.com/news/1096281/prices-of-life-saving-drugs-increased-by-around-30pc (http://www.dawn.com/news/1096281/prices-of-life-saving-drugs-increased-by-around-30pc)

Quote
“As per a market survey, the price of a packet of memomax 1.5mg capsule has been increased from Rs142 to Rs2205, serenace ampoule 5mg/ml, which was available for Rs23, is now selling at Rs191,” he said.

Similarly, the price of omixim 200mg/5ml suspension has been increased from Rs145 to Rs242, vapto 10mg tablet (packet) from Rs128 to Rs200, zeemox 1gm from Rs120 to Rs174, and the price of amoxil capsule 250mg has been jacked up from Rs310 to Rs356, he said.

Out of above qouted Medicines following is the breakup:

Medicine:Main Manufacturer
omixim:searl
memomax: searl
serenace ampoule:searl
zeemox: searl
Amoxil: GSK
Vapto: Searl

This quarter could be a good one. Ziauddin bhai, please Roshni Daalain..
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ziauddin on March 30, 2014, 02:02:39 AM
searl ka consumer division is ki growth hai kyun k iss k consumer division ki products deregulating hai...
but company cash flow maze ki nahin ...abhi buying nahin banti neche aane do ...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sAr on March 30, 2014, 06:10:35 PM
Alright. Will see around 100
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ziauddin on April 12, 2014, 06:07:49 PM
any comments .bying price?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on April 22, 2014, 06:19:57 PM
(http://www.kse.com.pk/newsimage/53489-2.gif)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ziauddin on April 22, 2014, 10:45:17 PM
lao karo isse 220 tak
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: RSI Fan on April 26, 2014, 09:24:22 AM
(http://www.kse.com.pk/newsimage/53489-2.gif)

Iska bhi shell wala other income ka scene hai. Otherwise operating profit to neechay hi gays hai. Sbm ya ziauddin please review and advise future strategy. Leneka ya abhi nahi
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on May 05, 2014, 10:02:21 AM
Alright. Will see around 100

ya 250 ?  :skeptic:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on May 05, 2014, 10:16:13 AM
Alright. Will see around 100

ya 250 ?  :skeptic:

Worth more than 250 :)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on May 05, 2014, 10:18:24 AM
Alright. Will see around 100

ya 250 ?  :skeptic:

Worth more than 250 :)

what you think its worth ?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on May 05, 2014, 11:00:41 AM
Alright. Will see around 100

ya 250 ?  :skeptic:

Worth more than 250 :)

what you think its worth ?


Alright. Will see around 100

ya 250 ?  :skeptic:

Worth more than 250 :)

what you think its worth ?


250+.......Best growth stock to own!!
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: MZ on May 07, 2014, 07:34:03 PM
SEARLE:HOLD
Searle Pakistan announced its 3QFY14 result posting PAT of
Rs 180mn(EPS of Rs.2.9/share) up by 78%(YoY).Topline of
the company grew by 6%(YoY).However,Gross margins
slashed by 2%(YoY).Operating profit surge by 29%
(YoY),along with sharp decline of 43%(YoY) was witnessed
in taxation.Other income increased by 321%(YoY).
On sequential QoQ basis topline decline by 12% and gross
margins suppressed by 3%,along with decline in earnings by
36%.
Future Prospect:
Despite of the company’s good operating margins amongst
our universe of pharma sector and high other income,Searle
gross margins have remained under pressure over the last
few years.Along with revenue growth and payout ratio
comes at last amongst our pharma universe,Searl is a highly
leverage company in our universe of Pharma Sector where
debt to equity ratio of the company is at around 58%.
The scrip is currently trading at close to our Dec-14 TP of Rs
of 200/share .We recommend HOLD on this scrip.

SEARLPAKISTAN            3QFY14         3QFY13      YoY  sales                                     
                                      1,422         1,336         6%
COS                                 875           802         9%
GrossProfit                      547           534         2%
GrossMargins                 38.4%       40.0%       -2%
Operatingexp                 280           327       -15%
OperatingProfit              267           207        29%
FinanceCost                  61.50          61.0         1%
Profitbeforetaxation        206           146        41%
Less:Taxation                  26            46       -43%
ProfitAfterTaxation          180           100        79%
EPS                                   2.9           1.6        79%

MMSPL
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on May 07, 2014, 08:59:39 PM
If the whole pharma sector has an average multiple of 20x, than why searl is given a target multiple of 13x (TP of 200)...Very biased!!
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: dr.muhammad zia on May 07, 2014, 10:38:43 PM
 :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Aslam on May 08, 2014, 11:41:03 AM
If the whole pharma sector has an average multiple of 20x, than why searl is given a target multiple of 13x (TP of 200)...Very biased!!

Value Bhai, I think multiple of 20x in pharma is because of unusually high multiples of Wyeth, Glaxo and Sanofi Aventis. I have not calculated it, but if you exclude these 3 companies the average industry multiple  will probably be even lower then 13x.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on May 08, 2014, 12:00:36 PM
If the whole pharma sector has an average multiple of 20x, than why searl is given a target multiple of 13x (TP of 200)...Very biased!!

Value Bhai, I think multiple of 20x in pharma is because of unusually high multiples of Wyeth, Glaxo and Sanofi Aventis. I have not calculated it, but if you exclude these 3 companies the average industry multiple  will probably be even lower then 13x.

nope.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on May 08, 2014, 07:40:18 PM
If the whole pharma sector has an average multiple of 20x, than why searl is given a target multiple of 13x (TP of 200)...Very biased!!

Value Bhai, I think multiple of 20x in pharma is because of unusually high multiples of Wyeth, Glaxo and Sanofi Aventis. I have not calculated it, but if you exclude these 3 companies the average industry multiple  will probably be even lower then 13x.

No most of them trade at a multiple higher than 15x. Even though Searle is far more better than GSK, Wyeth & Sanofi Aventis, yet it trades at a lower multiple!! It will re-rate soon :)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on June 17, 2014, 09:48:15 AM
Alright. Will see around 100

ya 250 ?  :skeptic:

 uuu

jaldi karo yar.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on July 17, 2014, 09:42:59 PM
Bari dair kardi meherbaan aatay aatay  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on July 21, 2014, 08:54:01 PM
On the charge !  :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Afzal on July 21, 2014, 11:20:55 PM
missed the rallyyy.... can seniors suggest entry at this level? TP and Time frame expected pls?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: jahangir on August 08, 2014, 03:09:31 PM
some one ask about it. :D
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Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on August 12, 2014, 01:57:20 PM
looking pretty attractive now
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: pax on September 17, 2014, 10:38:28 AM
Is it worth buying at  these levels?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on September 17, 2014, 09:43:48 PM
BM to be held on 24th  :clap1:....Any expectations on results?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on September 17, 2014, 11:03:26 PM
On hot wheels already . Holding a bit of it since 170s  :biggthumpup: .
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on September 24, 2014, 10:18:30 AM
On hot wheels already . Holding a bit of it since 170s  :biggthumpup: .

INSHALLAH bonus is coming   ::)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on September 24, 2014, 03:04:18 PM
 :dunno:  :crying_anim02:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: pax on September 24, 2014, 03:09:15 PM
what was the resut?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: genious.genio on September 24, 2014, 03:12:43 PM
kab ayega reslt....  :down:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on September 24, 2014, 03:21:19 PM
kab ayega reslt....  :down:

Aik adh shareholder ki jaan ly k hi aey ga  ;)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umarm on September 24, 2014, 04:10:46 PM
congrats. 40% bonus announced.
http://dps.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=057554
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on September 24, 2014, 06:22:13 PM
congrats. 40% bonus announced.
http://dps.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=057554

MASHALLAH................. lao...............Rs:320-350 INSHALLAH
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: genious.genio on September 24, 2014, 06:30:12 PM
congrats. 40% bonus announced.
http://dps.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=057554

MASHALLAH................. lao...............Rs:320-350 INSHALLAH

kal upper lock pe milega ya entry mil skte ha???
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on September 24, 2014, 06:53:10 PM
congrats. 40% bonus announced.
http://dps.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=057554

MASHALLAH................. lao...............Rs:320-350 INSHALLAH

kal upper lock pe milega ya entry mil skte ha???

bhai upper per bi mushkil say catch ho ga
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on September 24, 2014, 07:33:54 PM
There is a piece of bread (roti) which you as shareholders have.. uss k 2 tukrey agar krdein to wo 2 rotian nahi ban jaatein.,... same is the case with "bonus shares"  :skeptic: Dont know why janta gets so excited..
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on September 24, 2014, 08:06:51 PM
There is a piece of bread (roti) which you as shareholders have.. uss k 2 tukrey agar krdein to wo 2 rotian nahi ban jaatein.,... same is the case with "bonus shares"  :skeptic: Dont know why janta gets so excited..

bhai 2 roties hi banti hain, bcz mostly it is observed that after ex, the price goes again at that level where it was before i.e. last day of book closure.  so bonus share hamari dosri roti ho gai  :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on September 24, 2014, 08:19:54 PM
Chalao BC ko cap o cap  :biggthumpup: :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on September 24, 2014, 08:45:54 PM
There is a piece of bread (roti) which you as shareholders have.. uss k 2 tukrey agar krdein to wo 2 rotian nahi ban jaatein.,... same is the case with "bonus shares"  :skeptic: Dont know why janta gets so excited..

bhai 2 roties hi banti hain, bcz mostly it is observed that after ex, the price goes again at that level where it was before i.e. last day of book closure.  so bonus share hamari dosri roti ho gai  :good


To phr EX honay k foran baad leylein and book capital gain when price fills the gap.. whats the difference??
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Dehan on September 24, 2014, 09:28:37 PM
There is a piece of bread (roti) which you as shareholders have.. uss k 2 tukrey agar krdein to wo 2 rotian nahi ban jaatein.,... same is the case with "bonus shares"  :skeptic: Dont know why janta gets so excited..

bhai 2 roties hi banti hain, bcz mostly it is observed that after ex, the price goes again at that level where it was before i.e. last day of book closure.  so bonus share hamari dosri roti ho gai  :good
Payout ki announcement k baad jo caps lagain gay aur X honein tak jo price appreciation ho gi os ka hisab kita kon rakhay ga. 


To phr EX honay k foran baad leylein and book capital gain when price fills the gap.. whats the difference??
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Dehan on September 24, 2014, 09:31:53 PM
There is a piece of bread (roti) which you as shareholders have.. uss k 2 tukrey agar krdein to wo 2 rotian nahi ban jaatein.,... same is the case with "bonus shares"  :skeptic: Dont know why janta gets so excited..

bhai 2 roties hi banti hain, bcz mostly it is observed that after ex, the price goes again at that level where it was before i.e. last day of book closure.  so bonus share hamari dosri roti ho gai  :good

To phr EX honay k foran baad leylein and book capital gain when price fills the gap.. whats the difference??
Payout ki announcement k baad jo caps lagain gay aur X honein tak jo price appreciation ho gi os ka hisab kita kon rakhay ga. 
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on September 24, 2014, 09:38:09 PM
There is a piece of bread (roti) which you as shareholders have.. uss k 2 tukrey agar krdein to wo 2 rotian nahi ban jaatein.,... same is the case with "bonus shares"  :skeptic: Dont know why janta gets so excited..

bhai 2 roties hi banti hain, bcz mostly it is observed that after ex, the price goes again at that level where it was before i.e. last day of book closure.  so bonus share hamari dosri roti ho gai  :good

To phr EX honay k foran baad leylein and book capital gain when price fills the gap.. whats the difference??
Payout ki announcement k baad jo caps lagain gay aur X honein tak jo price appreciation ho gi os ka hisab kita kon rakhay ga.

Exactly.. Announcement k bad k caps ka kia logical reason hai?? This is what I am saying originally.. Roti 1 he hai.. bus tukrey 2 hogaye hain.. investors thinking k unhe 2 rotian mil rahi hain..
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: bilal on September 24, 2014, 09:53:12 PM
congrats. 40% bonus announced.
http://dps.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=057554

MASHALLAH................. lao...............Rs:320-350 INSHALLAH

kal upper lock pe milega ya entry mil skte ha???

bhai upper per bi mushkil say catch ho ga

AOA. umarm bhai bonus ki announcement mubarak ho, main ne app ko ajj subha hi bol diyatha ke bonus zaror aeyga.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on September 24, 2014, 09:58:03 PM
There is a piece of bread (roti) which you as shareholders have.. uss k 2 tukrey agar krdein to wo 2 rotian nahi ban jaatein.,... same is the case with "bonus shares"  :skeptic: Dont know why janta gets so excited..

bhai 2 roties hi banti hain, bcz mostly it is observed that after ex, the price goes again at that level where it was before i.e. last day of book closure.  so bonus share hamari dosri roti ho gai  :good

Dude stay away from stocks  :tongue:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Dehan on September 24, 2014, 10:08:11 PM
There is a piece of bread (roti) which you as shareholders have.. uss k 2 tukrey agar krdein to wo 2 rotian nahi ban jaatein.,... same is the case with "bonus shares"  :skeptic: Dont know why janta gets so excited..

bhai 2 roties hi banti hain, bcz mostly it is observed that after ex, the price goes again at that level where it was before i.e. last day of book closure.  so bonus share hamari dosri roti ho gai  :good

To phr EX honay k foran baad leylein and book capital gain when price fills the gap.. whats the difference??
Payout ki announcement k baad jo caps lagain gay aur X honein tak jo price appreciation ho gi os ka hisab kita kon rakhay ga.

Exactly.. Announcement k bad k caps ka kia logical reason hai?? This is what I am saying originally.. Roti 1 he hai.. bus tukrey 2 hogaye hain.. investors thinking k unhe 2 rotian mil rahi hain..
If u have 100 shares and mkt price is Rs. 200. If 40% cash dividend is announced u will get Rs. 400 as dividend. If 40% bonus is paid and no price appreciation is there the X price will be Rs. 142.86. As a bonus u will get 40 shares. Now if u sell these bonus shares @ X price i.e. 142.86 u will get Rs. 5,714. Ab bonus issue pa share paagal na ho to kia ho.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on September 24, 2014, 10:20:36 PM
There is a piece of bread (roti) which you as shareholders have.. uss k 2 tukrey agar krdein to wo 2 rotian nahi ban jaatein.,... same is the case with "bonus shares"  :skeptic: Dont know why janta gets so excited..

bhai 2 roties hi banti hain, bcz mostly it is observed that after ex, the price goes again at that level where it was before i.e. last day of book closure.  so bonus share hamari dosri roti ho gai  :good

To phr EX honay k foran baad leylein and book capital gain when price fills the gap.. whats the difference??
Payout ki announcement k baad jo caps lagain gay aur X honein tak jo price appreciation ho gi os ka hisab kita kon rakhay ga.

Exactly.. Announcement k bad k caps ka kia logical reason hai?? This is what I am saying originally.. Roti 1 he hai.. bus tukrey 2 hogaye hain.. investors thinking k unhe 2 rotian mil rahi hain..
If u have 100 shares and mkt price is Rs. 200. If 40% cash dividend is announced u will get Rs. 400 as dividend. If 40% bonus is paid and no price appreciation is there the X price will be Rs. 142.86. As a bonus u will get 40 shares. Now if u sell these bonus shares @ X price i.e. 142.86 u will get Rs. 5,714. Ab bonus issue pa share paagal na ho to kia ho.

What about those 100 share jn ki mrkt value 20,000 thi but ab 100*142.86= 14,286 reh gayi.. That + 5714= 20,000.. back to square 1.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on September 24, 2014, 10:25:54 PM
I think its only fruitful if you already had shares before announcement.. NOT good for new entries.. because ab jo price increase hoga it does not have any link to the fundamentals of the companys that is its earnings.. to price obviously x bonus honay k baad pressure leker mazeed down hogi to bring it back to its pre bonus announcement fair value.. So not good for new entry unless you plan to hold it for throughout the period jb tk bonus free nahi hojata share.. Janta fazool mai pagal hojati hai..
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on September 24, 2014, 11:13:05 PM
I think its only fruitful if you already had shares before announcement.. NOT good for new entries.. because ab jo price increase hoga it does not have any link to the fundamentals of the companys that is its earnings.. to price obviously x bonus honay k baad pressure leker mazeed down hogi to bring it back to its pre bonus announcement fair value.. So not good for new entry unless you plan to hold it for throughout the period jb tk bonus free nahi hojata share.. Janta fazool mai pagal hojati hai..

ksenewb, humain pagal hi rehnay do........isi pagal pan ka to hum intizar kertain hain  :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on September 24, 2014, 11:22:58 PM
I think its only fruitful if you already had shares before announcement.. NOT good for new entries.. because ab jo price increase hoga it does not have any link to the fundamentals of the companys that is its earnings.. to price obviously x bonus honay k baad pressure leker mazeed down hogi to bring it back to its pre bonus announcement fair value.. So not good for new entry unless you plan to hold it for throughout the period jb tk bonus free nahi hojata share.. Janta fazool mai pagal hojati hai..

ksenewb, humain pagal hi rehnay do........isi pagal pan ka to hum intizar kertain hain  :shoaby:

For those already holding it, good for them only :)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Dehan on September 25, 2014, 12:12:37 AM
There is a piece of bread (roti) which you as shareholders have.. uss k 2 tukrey agar krdein to wo 2 rotian nahi ban jaatein.,... same is the case with "bonus shares"  :skeptic: Dont know why janta gets so excited..

bhai 2 roties hi banti hain, bcz mostly it is observed that after ex, the price goes again at that level where it was before i.e. last day of book closure.  so bonus share hamari dosri roti ho gai  :good

To phr EX honay k foran baad leylein and book capital gain when price fills the gap.. whats the difference??
Payout ki announcement k baad jo caps lagain gay aur X honein tak jo price appreciation ho gi os ka hisab kita kon rakhay ga.

Exactly.. Announcement k bad k caps ka kia logical reason hai?? This is what I am saying originally.. Roti 1 he hai.. bus tukrey 2 hogaye hain.. investors thinking k unhe 2 rotian mil rahi hain..
If u have 100 shares and mkt price is Rs. 200. If 40% cash dividend is announced u will get Rs. 400 as dividend. If 40% bonus is paid and no price appreciation is there the X price will be Rs. 142.86. As a bonus u will get 40 shares. Now if u sell these bonus shares @ X price i.e. 142.86 u will get Rs. 5,714. Ab bonus issue pa share paagal na ho to kia ho.

What about those 100 share jn ki mrkt value 20,000 thi but ab 100*142.86= 14,286 reh gayi.. That + 5714= 20,000.. back to square 1.
Lets have a test case of Searl. Check kar laina k bonus issue say pehlay price kia thi aur X kis rate pa hota hay.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: genious.genio on September 25, 2014, 12:18:17 AM
There is a piece of bread (roti) which you as shareholders have.. uss k 2 tukrey agar krdein to wo 2 rotian nahi ban jaatein.,... same is the case with "bonus shares"  :skeptic: Dont know why janta gets so excited..

bhai 2 roties hi banti hain, bcz mostly it is observed that after ex, the price goes again at that level where it was before i.e. last day of book closure.  so bonus share hamari dosri roti ho gai  :good

To phr EX honay k foran baad leylein and book capital gain when price fills the gap.. whats the difference??
Payout ki announcement k baad jo caps lagain gay aur X honein tak jo price appreciation ho gi os ka hisab kita kon rakhay ga.

Exactly.. Announcement k bad k caps ka kia logical reason hai?? This is what I am saying originally.. Roti 1 he hai.. bus tukrey 2 hogaye hain.. investors thinking k unhe 2 rotian mil rahi hain..
If u have 100 shares and mkt price is Rs. 200. If 40% cash dividend is announced u will get Rs. 400 as dividend. If 40% bonus is paid and no price appreciation is there the X price will be Rs. 142.86. As a bonus u will get 40 shares. Now if u sell these bonus shares @ X price i.e. 142.86 u will get Rs. 5,714. Ab bonus issue pa share paagal na ho to kia ho.

What about those 100 share jn ki mrkt value 20,000 thi but ab 100*142.86= 14,286 reh gayi.. That + 5714= 20,000.. back to square 1.
Lets have a test case of Searl. Check kar laina k bonus issue say pehlay price kia thi aur X kis rate pa hota hay.

kal ka btaye kal kitne pe entry le???
plz IBLHL ka b btaye if u can guide
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on September 25, 2014, 12:23:04 AM
Bid on upper cap tomorrow 
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on September 25, 2014, 02:36:48 AM
Dear all: KSE main jo bi profit milay..........usay loto or phir phot jao............phir kisi or share per nazar rekho............ab searl ko lotanay ka time aya hay............INSHALLAH juldi phot bi jain gay..........

Ye hi strategy sub ki honi chahiya  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on September 25, 2014, 09:21:52 AM
As general understanding a bonus is taken as k Company issues bonus when they are sure that they will be able to sustain current EPS despite increase in number of shares coz of bonus issue. Increasing equity from retained earnings means something favorable ahead. Therefore, instead of above debate we should focus whether the Company can maintain EPS???  :thanks:

Laooo phir SEARL 300 inshaAllah  :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on September 25, 2014, 09:22:25 AM
Dear all: KSE main jo bi profit milay..........usay loto or phir phot jao............phir kisi or share per nazar rekho............ab searl ko lotanay ka time aya hay............INSHALLAH juldi phot bi jain gay..........

Ye hi strategy sub ki honi chahiya  :biggthumpup:

Pre Open main Rs. 265 per 972800  buyers hay.............cap hi cap
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on September 25, 2014, 09:28:09 AM
pre open 1046200 share kay buyer. aj nahi kisi ko milna  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on September 25, 2014, 02:18:26 PM
As general understanding a bonus is taken as k Company issues bonus when they are sure that they will be able to sustain current EPS despite increase in number of shares coz of bonus issue. Increasing equity from retained earnings means something favorable ahead. Therefore, instead of above debate we should focus whether the Company can maintain EPS???  :thanks:

Laooo phir SEARL 300 inshaAllah  :thumbsup_anim:

Agreed & yes they can.
 :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on September 25, 2014, 07:00:18 PM
As general understanding a bonus is taken as k Company issues bonus when they are sure that they will be able to sustain current EPS despite increase in number of shares coz of bonus issue. Increasing equity from retained earnings means something favorable ahead. Therefore, instead of above debate we should focus whether the Company can maintain EPS???  :thanks:

Laooo phir SEARL 300 inshaAllah  :thumbsup_anim:

Agreed & yes they can.
 :thumbsup_anim:

U mean they can grow earnings by 40%???
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on September 25, 2014, 08:50:00 PM
Easily moving towards 300 plus
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on September 25, 2014, 10:34:54 PM
55k traded off market at 278.71 !!

Chalao bc ko cap o cap
:biggthumpup: :console: :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Sharoze123 on September 26, 2014, 02:33:36 AM
As general understanding a bonus is taken as k Company issues bonus when they are sure that they will be able to sustain current EPS despite increase in number of shares coz of bonus issue. Increasing equity from retained earnings means something favorable ahead. Therefore, instead of above debate we should focus whether the Company can maintain EPS???  :thanks:

Laooo phir SEARL 300 inshaAllah  :thumbsup_anim:

Agreed & yes they can.
 :thumbsup_anim:

U mean they can grow earnings by 40%???


Retained Earnings are already a part of equity, so issuing Bonus shares will have no effect on Total equity itself.
Company doesn't need to worry about growing earnings by 40% in the earlier upcoming quarters as EPS is calculated on a weighted average shares basis. More important thing to note is that maintenance of EPS isn't a pre-requisite for Bonus shares, the 2013( comparable figure) you will see in 2014 accounts will be restated to adjust for 2014's bonus issues as well.  So don't worry about EPS being shown lower in 2014 solely because of the Bonus Issue.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on September 26, 2014, 10:05:27 AM
As general understanding a bonus is taken as k Company issues bonus when they are sure that they will be able to sustain current EPS despite increase in number of shares coz of bonus issue. Increasing equity from retained earnings means something favorable ahead. Therefore, instead of above debate we should focus whether the Company can maintain EPS???  :thanks:

Laooo phir SEARL 300 inshaAllah  :thumbsup_anim:

Agreed & yes they can.
 :thumbsup_anim:

U mean they can grow earnings by 40%???


Retained Earnings are already a part of equity, so issuing Bonus shares will have no effect on Total equity itself.
Company doesn't need to worry about growing earnings by 40% in the earlier upcoming quarters as EPS is calculated on a weighted average shares basis. More important thing to note is that maintenance of EPS isn't a pre-requisite for Bonus shares, the 2013( comparable figure) you will see in 2014 accounts will be restated to adjust for 2014's bonus issues as well.  So don't worry about EPS being shown lower in 2014 solely because of the Bonus Issue.

The lower EPS will also lower the PE ratio based valutation of the share. So if the company is to maintain its share price, it must increase its EPS further.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on September 26, 2014, 04:28:22 PM
lo chala lo cap o cap bc  :console:

When janta is in with target of 300+ "they" will f**k it to limits  :rtfm:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on September 26, 2014, 06:00:30 PM
1) directors are optimistic about the company's future hence they have declared 40% bonus and no cash as they look to reinvest earnings back.
2) company's stock price  will recover from 40% bonus within 6-12 months.
3) all other discussion is irrelevant.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on September 26, 2014, 08:18:20 PM
1) directors are optimistic about the company's future hence they have declared 40% bonus and no cash as they look to reinvest earnings back.
2) company's stock price  will recover from 40% bonus within 6-12 months.
3) all other discussion is irrelevant.

company's stock price  will recover from 40% bonus within 6-12 months??? :o Do u have empirical evidence on that???
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on September 27, 2014, 02:16:41 AM
1) directors are optimistic about the company's future hence they have declared 40% bonus and no cash as they look to reinvest earnings back.
2) company's stock price  will recover from 40% bonus within 6-12 months.
3) all other discussion is irrelevant.

company's stock price  will recover from 40% bonus within 6-12 months??? :o Do u have empirical evidence on that???

Maybe. You can always check back in 12 months time.
It closed at 255 on 24th sept, the day it announced the 40% bonus.
@ 255 market cap was 15.635 billion
You should expect market cap of 21-22 billion this time next year

* in my earlier post I said it will recover from the 40% from xd price, that one is more aggressive, but 40% increase in market cap is probably a more technically sound projection ..



Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ValueInvestor on September 27, 2014, 04:14:46 AM
1) directors are optimistic about the company's future hence they have declared 40% bonus and no cash as they look to reinvest earnings back.
2) company's stock price  will recover from 40% bonus within 6-12 months.
3) all other discussion is irrelevant.

company's stock price  will recover from 40% bonus within 6-12 months??? :o Do u have empirical evidence on that???

Maybe. You can always check back in 12 months time.
It closed at 255 on 24th sept, the day it announced the 40% bonus.
@ 255 market cap was 15.635 billion
You should expect market cap of 21-22 billion this time next year

* in my earlier post I said it will recover from the 40% from xd price, that one is more aggressive, but 40% increase in market cap is probably a more technically sound projection ..


Now that is a banging on the table: "Maybe. You can always check back in 12 months time".
SBM knows he is good.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ValueInvestor on September 27, 2014, 05:06:37 AM
There is a piece of bread (roti) which you as shareholders have.. uss k 2 tukrey agar krdein to wo 2 rotian nahi ban jaatein.,... same is the case with "bonus shares"  :skeptic: Dont know why janta gets so excited..


bhai 2 roties hi banti hain, bcz mostly it is observed that after ex, the price goes again at that level where it was before i.e. last day of book closure.  so bonus share hamari dosri roti ho gai  :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ValueInvestor on September 27, 2014, 05:14:56 AM
There is a piece of bread (roti) which you as shareholders have.. uss k 2 tukrey agar krdein to wo 2 rotian nahi ban jaatein.,... same is the case with "bonus shares"  :skeptic: Dont know why janta gets so excited..

bhai 2 roties hi banti hain, bcz mostly it is observed that after ex, the price goes again at that level where it was before i.e. last day of book closure.  so bonus share hamari dosri roti ho gai  :good


Well said.
Basically they are diluting, your ownership.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on September 27, 2014, 06:16:58 AM
There is a piece of bread (roti) which you as shareholders have.. uss k 2 tukrey agar krdein to wo 2 rotian nahi ban jaatein.,... same is the case with "bonus shares"  :skeptic: Dont know why janta gets so excited..

bhai 2 roties hi banti hain, bcz mostly it is observed that after ex, the price goes again at that level where it was before i.e. last day of book closure.  so bonus share hamari dosri roti ho gai  :good


Well said.
Basically they are diluting, your ownership.

Jan ki aman paon to BIG players kay agay arz karoan sirfu shell ki example lay lain

12-03-2014 ko shell nay 30% bonus announce kiye, at that day the price was 203 then the price went to 288 before first day of book closure 09-04-2014. Exprice open hui Rs: 233 on10th april and then price went to 295 on 17th april.
mujhay to 2 rotain mil gain........... one roti 203 to 288, sold the share, then when exprice I bought again then price again went to 295.
second option bi ho sakti thi..........bonus avail kerta, or phir price oper a jati.
Some companies price up before bonus announcement as Searl, I am 100% confident that as it will go close to its book closure INSHALLAH its price will go up, if not no problem and price remain around 240-260 range its ex price will be around 200 and INSHALLAH will again reach upto 240-260 soon................ bonus main 2 ROTIAN hi milti hain............. mujhay to aj tak do hi mili hain
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ValueInvestor on September 27, 2014, 07:55:06 AM
There is a piece of bread (roti) which you as shareholders have.. uss k 2 tukrey agar krdein to wo 2 rotian nahi ban jaatein.,... same is the case with "bonus shares"  :skeptic: Dont know why janta gets so excited..

bhai 2 roties hi banti hain, bcz mostly it is observed that after ex, the price goes again at that level where it was before i.e. last day of book closure.  so bonus share hamari dosri roti ho gai  :good


Well said.
Basically they are diluting, your ownership.

Jan ki aman paon to BIG players kay agay arz karoan sirfu shell ki example lay lain

12-03-2014 ko shell nay 30% bonus announce kiye, at that day the price was 203 then the price went to 288 before first day of book closure 09-04-2014. Exprice open hui Rs: 233 on10th april and then price went to 295 on 17th april.
mujhay to 2 rotain mil gain........... one roti 203 to 288, sold the share, then when exprice I bought again then price again went to 295.
second option bi ho sakti thi..........bonus avail kerta, or phir price oper a jati.
Some companies price up before bonus announcement as Searl, I am 100% confident that as it will go close to its book closure INSHALLAH its price will go up, if not no problem and price remain around 240-260 range its ex price will be around 200 and INSHALLAH will again reach upto 240-260 soon................ bonus main 2 ROTIAN hi milti hain............. mujhay to aj tak do hi mili hain

In a way your viewpoint is correct. As long as you are making money, what do you care? and why you should care? I get you.

But as a matter of fact, any time a company issues Bonus Shares (in U.S it is known as Splitting the Stock); they are diluting your ownership.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on September 27, 2014, 08:32:40 AM
 In a way your viewpoint is correct. As long as you are making money, what do you care? and why you should care? I get you.

But as a matter of fact, any time a company issues Bonus Shares (in U.S it is known as Splitting the Stock); they are diluting your ownership.

Value bhai mujhay underline sentence ki samjh nai ayi k hamari ownership kaisay dilute hue. I have 1000 share and if company give 40% B share, I got further 400 shares . Now I have 1400 shares. if you take out the percentage I guess no difference on your ownership. If I am wrong would yolu please explain by giving some example.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on September 27, 2014, 08:55:29 AM
In a way your viewpoint is correct. As long as you are making money, what do you care? and why you should care? I get you.

But as a matter of fact, any time a company issues Bonus Shares (in U.S it is known as Splitting the Stock); they are diluting your ownership.

Value bhai mujhay underline sentence ki samjh nai ayi k hamari ownership kaisay dilute hue. I have 1000 share and if company give 40% B share, I got further 400 shares . Now I have 1400 shares. if you take out the percentage I guess no difference on your ownership. If I am wrong would yolu please explain by giving some example.


There is no dilution of ownership....It remains the same!! However, earnings get diluted!!
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on September 27, 2014, 09:01:09 AM
1) directors are optimistic about the company's future hence they have declared 40% bonus and no cash as they look to reinvest earnings back.
2) company's stock price  will recover from 40% bonus within 6-12 months.
3) all other discussion is irrelevant.

company's stock price  will recover from 40% bonus within 6-12 months??? :o Do u have empirical evidence on that???

Maybe. You can always check back in 12 months time.
It closed at 255 on 24th sept, the day it announced the 40% bonus.
@ 255 market cap was 15.635 billion
You should expect market cap of 21-22 billion this time next year

* in my earlier post I said it will recover from the 40% from xd price, that one is more aggressive, but 40% increase in market cap is probably a more technically sound projection ..





There are only three possibilities for the stock price to recover 40% from XB price.

1) Either there is a re-rating in multiples by 40% or
2) Earnings get increased by 40%
3) A combination of above (i.e 15% re-rating in multiples and 25% growth in earnings)

If u expect the same than it should recover otherwise it doesn't make any sense for it to recover!!!
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on September 27, 2014, 09:34:52 AM
1) directors are optimistic about the company's future hence they have declared 40% bonus and no cash as they look to reinvest earnings back.
2) company's stock price  will recover from 40% bonus within 6-12 months.
3) all other discussion is irrelevant.

company's stock price  will recover from 40% bonus within 6-12 months??? :o Do u have empirical evidence on that???

Maybe. You can always check back in 12 months time.
It closed at 255 on 24th sept, the day it announced the 40% bonus.
@ 255 market cap was 15.635 billion
You should expect market cap of 21-22 billion this time next year

* in my earlier post I said it will recover from the 40% from xd price, that one is more aggressive, but 40% increase in market cap is probably a more technically sound projection ..





There are only three possibilities for the stock price to recover 40% from XB price.

1) Either there is a re-rating in multiples by 40% or
2) Earnings get increased by 40%
3) A combination of above (i.e 15% re-rating in multiples and 25% growth in earnings)

If u expect the same than it should recover otherwise it doesn't make any sense for it to recover!!!



ok Thanks
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umarm on September 27, 2014, 09:53:52 AM
I dont think it will give loss to any body because even if some body took entry at higher price the rate will spike before XB and after XB so do not need to worry in my opinion. 4-5 upper lock lugay thay thori correction ha i think.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on September 27, 2014, 10:22:34 AM
I dont think it will give loss to any body because even if some body took entry at higher price the rate will spike before XB and after XB so do not need to worry in my opinion. 4-5 upper lock lugay thay thori correction ha i think.

bhai jan main b to yehi keh reha hoan INSHALLAH 2 rotian hi milain gi jo b entry lay ga is main.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on September 27, 2014, 12:40:08 PM
Those weak holders bought at today cap sold there holding that's why pressure on script Searle investment item not for satta now a days many day traders involved in this script now out of the market sold all holding at loss on Friday now open field for investors next week u see not much resistance on price appreciation I think tip of 300 achieved on spot
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on September 27, 2014, 02:30:57 PM
Those weak holders bought at today cap sold there holding that's why pressure on script Searle investment item not for satta now a days many day traders involved in this script now out of the market sold all holding at loss on Friday now open field for investors next week u see not much resistance on price appreciation I think tip of 300 achieved on spot

I see it hitting a low around 235-238, if it does I will buy for profit target of 270 INSHA ALLAH.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ValueInvestor on September 27, 2014, 06:59:31 PM


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Most of small float sahres run on inside info only & basis of fundamentals is not observed. Searle run up is also a classic recent example of use of inside information by vested group of people. It was 172 on Sep 01 & 265 on Sep 25. What could happen in 25 days; one thing only; manupilation under the mighty force of  "INSIDE INFO". Janta ride the bandbagon & hurt itself.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: alidxb on September 28, 2014, 02:47:35 PM
Most of small float sahres run on inside info only & basis of fundamentals is not observed. Searle run up is also a classic recent example of use of inside information by vested group of people. It was 172 on Sep 01 & 265 on Sep 25. What could happen in 25 days in Co's fundamentals?; Nothing can change in fundamentals that justifies Rs. 54% growth in 25 days only; & 47% growth is got before the notice of Bonus to general public; only one do happen; manupilation under the mighty force of  "INSIDE INFO" by well connected people. Janta ride the bandbagon & hurt itself.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on September 28, 2014, 04:10:32 PM
300 plus during trading in spot
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on September 28, 2014, 05:50:14 PM
Phir what do you say ? Lagayen cap BC ko ? :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on September 29, 2014, 11:17:55 AM
Good opportunity to buy at every lower lock. INSHALLAH will earn profit. I sold my all shares at 276 and now today bought ave 244
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: alidxb on September 29, 2014, 12:49:06 PM
Most of small float sahres run on inside info only & basis of fundamentals is not observed. Searle run up is also a classic recent example of use of inside information by vested group of people. It was 172 on Sep 01 & 265 on Sep 25. What could happen in 25 days in Co's fundamentals?; Nothing can change in fundamentals that justifies Rs. 54% growth in 25 days only; & 47% growth is got before the notice of Bonus to general public; only one do happen; manupilation under the mighty force of  "INSIDE INFO" by well connected people. Janta ride the bandbagon & hurt itself.
Just remember what I said above & now see its nosedive till it reaches it real value; avoid buying as it will crash daily.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ValueInvestor on September 29, 2014, 05:00:58 PM
Most of small float sahres run on inside info only & basis of fundamentals is not observed. Searle run up is also a classic recent example of use of inside information by vested group of people. It was 172 on Sep 01 & 265 on Sep 25. What could happen in 25 days in Co's fundamentals?; Nothing can change in fundamentals that justifies Rs. 54% growth in 25 days only; & 47% growth is got before the notice of Bonus to general public; only one do happen; manupilation under the mighty force of  "INSIDE INFO" by well connected people. Janta ride the bandbagon & hurt itself.
Just remember what I said above & now see its nosedive till it reaches it real value; avoid buying as it will crash daily.

And in your view, what is a real value?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ValueInvestor on September 29, 2014, 05:02:39 PM
Good opportunity to buy at every lower lock. INSHALLAH will earn profit. I sold my all shares at 276 and now today bought ave 244

What do you think, how far down it will go?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: alidxb on September 29, 2014, 05:55:13 PM
Good opportunity to buy at every lower lock. INSHALLAH will earn profit. I sold my all shares at 276 and now today bought ave 244
Incidence of "Lower lock" should not be the criteria for entry at any price which is already inflated. :skeptic:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Nasirkhan88 on September 30, 2014, 12:25:39 AM
Why not wait for 225at least where middle bollinger  band is.  :skeptic: also moving avg supports. Funamentally strong an growth stock is a good buy at a retracement
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on September 30, 2014, 09:56:19 AM
Good opportunity to buy at every lower lock. INSHALLAH will earn profit. I sold my all shares at 276 and now today bought ave 244

Aj kis kis nay lowest price 231-232 per liya. Lanya waloan ko mubarik ho aj bi fruit kha saktay hain  :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on September 30, 2014, 10:04:04 AM
Good opportunity to buy at every lower lock. INSHALLAH will earn profit. I sold my all shares at 276 and now today bought ave 244

Aj kis kis nay lowest price 231-232 per liya. Lanya waloan ko mubarik ho aj bi fruit kha saktay hain  :thumbsup_anim:


My buying rate: 232
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: alidxb on September 30, 2014, 10:07:00 AM
Most of small float sahres run on inside info only & basis of fundamentals is not observed. Searle run up is also a classic recent example of use of inside information by vested group of people. It was 172 on Sep 01 & 265 on Sep 25. What could happen in 25 days in Co's fundamentals?; Nothing can change in fundamentals that justifies Rs. 54% growth in 25 days only; & 47% growth is got before the notice of Bonus to general public; only one do happen; manupilation under the mighty force of  "INSIDE INFO" by well connected people. Janta ride the bandbagon & hurt itself.
Just remember what I said above & now see its nosedive till it reaches it real value; avoid buying as it will crash daily.

And in your view, what is a real value?
Real value is around Rs 203.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on September 30, 2014, 10:12:30 AM
Most of small float sahres run on inside info only & basis of fundamentals is not observed. Searle run up is also a classic recent example of use of inside information by vested group of people. It was 172 on Sep 01 & 265 on Sep 25. What could happen in 25 days in Co's fundamentals?; Nothing can change in fundamentals that justifies Rs. 54% growth in 25 days only; & 47% growth is got before the notice of Bonus to general public; only one do happen; manupilation under the mighty force of  "INSIDE INFO" by well connected people. Janta ride the bandbagon & hurt itself.
Just remember what I said above & now see its nosedive till it reaches it real value; avoid buying as it will crash daily.

And in your view, what is a real value?
Real value is around Rs 203.

Sir trailing P/E ko leker nahi.. expected growth ko leker consider krein..
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: alidxb on September 30, 2014, 10:16:58 AM
Kindly share fundamentals for expected growth.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on September 30, 2014, 10:19:33 AM
Kindly share fundamentals for expected growth.

EPS 8.85 in 2013 to 12.28 in 2014. Excellent liquidity position, quick ratio of 1. Return on capital employed 37%.

Plus short/medium term triggers (floods and pharma price increase)

I am a critic of searl usually but at 230-235 it is too tempting to resist  ::)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on September 30, 2014, 10:37:15 AM
Most of small float sahres run on inside info only & basis of fundamentals is not observed. Searle run up is also a classic recent example of use of inside information by vested group of people. It was 172 on Sep 01 & 265 on Sep 25. What could happen in 25 days in Co's fundamentals?; Nothing can change in fundamentals that justifies Rs. 54% growth in 25 days only; & 47% growth is got before the notice of Bonus to general public; only one do happen; manupilation under the mighty force of  "INSIDE INFO" by well connected people. Janta ride the bandbagon & hurt itself.
Just remember what I said above & now see its nosedive till it reaches it real value; avoid buying as it will crash daily.

And in your view, what is a real value?
Real value is around Rs 203.

bohat saray shares ki real value down hay but they are trading at good rate. I guess you forgot KSE Karachi SATTA mkt hay.........Gold to Iron kar day............Iran ko Gold only possible in KSE  :dance
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: JF on September 30, 2014, 10:44:25 AM
KSE trade on SATTA MENTAL not FUNDAMENTAL
 :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: alidxb on September 30, 2014, 12:19:07 PM
KSE trade on SATTA MENTAL not FUNDAMENTAL
 :thumbsup_anim:
Pls wait a little; SATTA will again defuse hype in it.This is will be avilable around 200 before Ex date.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Nasirkhan88 on September 30, 2014, 01:25:23 PM
KSE trade on SATTA MENTAL not FUNDAMENTAL
 :thumbsup_anim:
Pls wait a little; SATTA will again defuse hype in it.This is will be avilable around 200 before Ex date.

200  :crying_anim02: :crying_anim02:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on September 30, 2014, 08:15:10 PM
KSE trade on SATTA MENTAL not FUNDAMENTAL
 :thumbsup_anim:
Pls wait a little; SATTA will again defuse hype in it.This is will be avilable around 200 before Ex date.

See a doctor  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 01, 2014, 11:02:53 AM
Good opportunity to buy at every lower lock. INSHALLAH will earn profit. I sold my all shares at 276 and now today bought ave 244

Aj kis kis nay lowest price 231-232 per liya. Lanya waloan ko mubarik ho aj bi fruit kha saktay hain  :thumbsup_anim:

I am busy upto Eid, Just want to say searl lovers ap ko Eid say pehlay hi eidi mil gai. or jinhon nay buy kiya lower locks per  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 14, 2014, 10:18:00 AM
This time I changed my strategy and bought searl 5k around 266. EX rate will be around 190 if it close at 266. It may not be catch at 190 bcz I hope 1st Qtr result will be good and it will reach at 266 soon INSHALLAH.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 14, 2014, 10:45:31 AM
This time I changed my strategy and bought searl 5k around 266. EX rate will be around 190 if it close at 266. It may not be catch at 190 bcz I hope 1st Qtr result will be good and it will reach at 266 soon INSHALLAH.

bhaio phir keh reha hn lay lo 266 kay around bura nahi hay. bonus kay bad ap ki average 190 ho gi, or INSHALLAH is nay udhar nahi therna. saray pharma share  250 kay as pass hoan gay to yeh bhal 190 per tikay ga INSHALLAH nahi  oper hi jaye ga
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: U.Khan on October 14, 2014, 11:37:39 AM
This time I changed my strategy and bought searl 5k around 266. EX rate will be around 190 if it close at 266. It may not be catch at 190 bcz I hope 1st Qtr result will be good and it will reach at 266 soon INSHALLAH.

bhaio phir keh reha hn lay lo 266 kay around bura nahi hay. bonus kay bad ap ki average 190 ho gi, or INSHALLAH is nay udhar nahi therna. saray pharma share  250 kay as pass hoan gay to yeh bhal 190 per tikay ga INSHALLAH nahi  oper hi jaye ga

LOTO bhai plz inform k is ki last date kia he ex hone se pehle??
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on October 14, 2014, 12:42:21 PM
Also changed strategy  :$:...................

Sold everything at 270 will by after XB at 180  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on October 14, 2014, 12:43:34 PM
This time I changed my strategy and bought searl 5k around 266. EX rate will be around 190 if it close at 266. It may not be catch at 190 bcz I hope 1st Qtr result will be good and it will reach at 266 soon INSHALLAH.

bhaio phir keh reha hn lay lo 266 kay around bura nahi hay. bonus kay bad ap ki average 190 ho gi, or INSHALLAH is nay udhar nahi therna. saray pharma share  250 kay as pass hoan gay to yeh bhal 190 per tikay ga INSHALLAH nahi  oper hi jaye ga

LOTO bhai plz inform k is ki last date kia he ex hone se pehle??

Think this Friday i.e. 17th October
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on October 14, 2014, 04:09:09 PM
Also changed strategy  :$:...................

Sold everything at 270 will by after XB at 180  :fingerscrossed1:

 :[ It only happen in Karachi Satta Exchange while Subsidiary on SPOT had three consective Upper locks and the Holding Company the major beneficiary gets series of Lower Locks at SPOT although both are overvalued.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 14, 2014, 06:09:27 PM
This time I changed my strategy and bought searl 5k around 266. EX rate will be around 190 if it close at 266. It may not be catch at 190 bcz I hope 1st Qtr result will be good and it will reach at 266 soon INSHALLAH.

bhaio phir keh reha hn lay lo 266 kay around bura nahi hay. bonus kay bad ap ki average 190 ho gi, or INSHALLAH is nay udhar nahi therna. saray pharma share  250 kay as pass hoan gay to yeh bhal 190 per tikay ga INSHALLAH nahi  oper hi jaye ga

LOTO bhai plz inform k is ki last date kia he ex hone se pehle??

Think this Friday i.e. 17th October

sorry for those who buy on my call  huhu..........., but please don't worry BBs  trying that public do not hold . INSHALLAH it will be fruitful in very near short term. be patience
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on October 14, 2014, 09:54:47 PM
Also changed strategy  :$:...................

Sold everything at 270 will by after XB at 180  :fingerscrossed1:

 :[ It only happen in Karachi Satta Exchange while Subsidiary on SPOT had three consective Upper locks and the Holding Company the major beneficiary gets series of Lower Locks at SPOT although both are overvalued.

Its not satta bro, the dynamics of both companies are very diff.

1. IBLHL has very small free float.

2. Almost none mutual funds are holding it whereas searl many big bbs are holding so theres a chance that anyone of them can come and offload large qty and send price in minus, which was likely at these levels and this is what happnd today

Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on October 15, 2014, 02:22:15 PM
Also changed strategy  :$:...................

Sold everything at 270 will by after XB at 180  :fingerscrossed1:

 :[ It only happen in Karachi Satta Exchange while Subsidiary on SPOT had three consective Upper locks and the Holding Company the major beneficiary gets series of Lower Locks at SPOT although both are overvalued.

Its not satta bro, the dynamics of both companies are very diff.

1. IBLHL has very small free float.

2. Almost none mutual funds are holding it whereas searl many big bbs are holding so theres a chance that anyone of them can come and offload large qty and send price in minus, which was likely at these levels and this is what happnd today

Whatever................... 170 :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on October 15, 2014, 03:47:10 PM
This time I changed my strategy and bought searl 5k around 266. EX rate will be around 190 if it close at 266. It may not be catch at 190 bcz I hope 1st Qtr result will be good and it will reach at 266 soon INSHALLAH.

bhaio phir keh reha hn lay lo 266 kay around bura nahi hay. bonus kay bad ap ki average 190 ho gi, or INSHALLAH is nay udhar nahi therna. saray pharma share  250 kay as pass hoan gay to yeh bhal 190 per tikay ga INSHALLAH nahi  oper hi jaye ga

LOTO bhai plz inform k is ki last date kia he ex hone se pehle??

Think this Friday i.e. 17th October

sorry for those who buy on my call  huhu..........., but please don't worry BBs  trying that public do not hold . INSHALLAH it will be fruitful in very near short term. be patience
me not criticizing any one...but ye rate buying k nahi :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: alidxb on October 15, 2014, 04:47:27 PM
KSE trade on SATTA MENTAL not FUNDAMENTAL
 :thumbsup_anim:
Pls wait a little; SATTA will again defuse hype in it.This is will be avilable around 200 before Ex date.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 15, 2014, 05:50:50 PM
This time I changed my strategy and bought searl 5k around 266. EX rate will be around 190 if it close at 266. It may not be catch at 190 bcz I hope 1st Qtr result will be good and it will reach at 266 soon INSHALLAH.

bhaio phir keh reha hn lay lo 266 kay around bura nahi hay. bonus kay bad ap ki average 190 ho gi, or INSHALLAH is nay udhar nahi therna. saray pharma share  250 kay as pass hoan gay to yeh bhal 190 per tikay ga INSHALLAH nahi  oper hi jaye ga

LOTO bhai plz inform k is ki last date kia he ex hone se pehle??

Think this Friday i.e. 17th October

sorry for those who buy on my call  huhu..........., but please don't worry BBs  trying that public do not hold . INSHALLAH it will be fruitful in very near short term. be patience
me not criticizing any one...but ye rate buying k nahi :good

pharam share  main INSHALLAH loss nahi ho ga, or phir Searl main to bohat mushkil hay, bus patience chahiye or holding power ho. BBs GP ko bahir utha ker phainkna chati hay..........bus yehi reason hay
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Adnan on October 15, 2014, 07:41:39 PM
KSE trade on SATTA MENTAL not FUNDAMENTAL
 :thumbsup_anim:
Pls wait a little; SATTA will again defuse hype in it.This is will be avilable around 200 before Ex date.

Tomorrow is the last day for SPOT trading. So minimum price before X is 239.

Whats your point?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ValueInvestor on October 16, 2014, 06:43:24 AM
KSE trade on SATTA MENTAL not FUNDAMENTAL
 :thumbsup_anim:
Pls wait a little; SATTA will again defuse hype in it.This is will be avilable around 200 before Ex date.


Tomorrow is the last day for SPOT trading. So minimum price before X is 239.

Whats your point?

You got him!
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 16, 2014, 08:57:24 AM
KSE trade on SATTA MENTAL not FUNDAMENTAL
 :thumbsup_anim:
Pls wait a little; SATTA will again defuse hype in it.This is will be avilable around 200 before Ex date.


Tomorrow is the last day for SPOT trading. So minimum price before X is 239.

Whats your point?

You got him!

Omeed hay 250 ki range main hi rehay ga INSHALLAH..........Paywasta reh shajer say Omeeday behar rekh
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on October 16, 2014, 02:11:38 PM
KSE trade on SATTA MENTAL not FUNDAMENTAL
 :thumbsup_anim:
Pls wait a little; SATTA will again defuse hype in it.This is will be avilable around 200 before Ex date.

Tomorrow is the last day for SPOT trading. So minimum price before X is 239.

Whats your point?

Bro I think One more day to go....... its 17th on Friday  :crying_anim02:

226 is on the cards  :bangin: :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umarm on October 16, 2014, 04:10:41 PM
Chalo aab jo iis nay kaam hona tha wo to ho gia. Aab tommorow say dhektay han XB honay kay baad kia kerta ha.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: stockz_123 on October 16, 2014, 04:23:13 PM
KSE trade on SATTA MENTAL not FUNDAMENTAL
 :thumbsup_anim:
Pls wait a little; SATTA will again defuse hype in it.This is will be avilable around 200 before Ex date.

Tomorrow is the last day for SPOT trading. So minimum price before X is 239.

Whats your point?

Bro I think One more day to go....... its 17th on Friday  :crying_anim02:

226 is on the cards  :bangin: :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:

tomorrw it will trade XB Rate..
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on October 16, 2014, 05:12:32 PM
KSE trade on SATTA MENTAL not FUNDAMENTAL
 :thumbsup_anim:
Pls wait a little; SATTA will again defuse hype in it.This is will be avilable around 200 before Ex date.

Tomorrow is the last day for SPOT trading. So minimum price before X is 239.

Whats your point?

Bro I think One more day to go....... its 17th on Friday  :crying_anim02:

226 is on the cards  :bangin: :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:

tomorrw it will trade XB Rate..

 :[ yeh b theek hai shayad wahan se bachat ho jaey  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: genious.genio on October 16, 2014, 05:22:12 PM
XB opening price tmorrow 171.66

seniors plz sugest is it good now to buy at this rate??? or wait for more dip??  :skeptic:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 16, 2014, 06:17:12 PM
Ulti ho gai sub tadbeerain kuch na dawa nay kam kia
akhir is pharma sector ki mohabat nay sub gain zero ker dia   huhu
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umarm on October 16, 2014, 06:58:41 PM
Ulti ho gai sub tadbeerain kuch na dawa nay kam kia
akhir is pharma sector ki mohabat nay sub gain zero ker dia   huhu

Well said. Iis ka koi pata nahee jis tarah neechay gia ha isi taraf oper bhee ja sakta ha.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Nasirkhan88 on October 16, 2014, 07:01:18 PM
23 times earnings pe trade honaaa.  ye to hona tha
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 16, 2014, 07:10:12 PM
Ulti ho gai sub tadbeerain kuch na dawa nay kam kia
akhir is pharma sector ki mohabat nay sub gain zero ker dia   huhu

Well said. Iis ka koi pata nahee jis tarah neechay gia ha isi taraf oper bhee ja sakta ha.

Lesson learned, bonus na avail kernay wali strategy hi better hay, always buy on x rate. I don't know what happen to me. This is destinay. Highnoon I am still in profit as my buying is at 193, one more lesson learned that don't play too long these days. 50-60 ruppe mil rehay thay chup ker kay profit taking ker leni chaiye thi. Any way everything happen with the will of ALLAH, some time all your strategy fails.
Pharama INSHALLAH loss kabhi nahi keray ga, but it is good to have book profit. as now for small shares I learned lesson from byco and tele and now I always do profit. Lalach nahi kerta. Anyway just want to share with GP, may be they can also get benefit

Lootanay ka moqa to mila tha lekin time per phot na saka  :console:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ValueInvestor on October 16, 2014, 07:15:04 PM
Ulti ho gai sub tadbeerain kuch na dawa nay kam kia
akhir is pharma sector ki mohabat nay sub gain zero ker dia   huhu

Well said. Iis ka koi pata nahee jis tarah neechay gia ha isi taraf oper bhee ja sakta ha.

Lesson learned, bonus na avail kernay wali strategy hi better hay, always buy on x rate. I don't know what happen to me. This is destinay. Highnoon I am still in profit as my buying is at 193, one more lesson learned that don't play too long these days. 50-60 ruppe mil rehay thay chup ker kay profit taking ker leni chaiye thi. Any way everything happen with the will of ALLAH, some time all your strategy fails.
Pharama INSHALLAH loss kabhi nahi keray ga, but it is good to have book profit. as now for small shares I learned lesson from byco and tele and now I always do profit. Lalach nahi kerta. Anyway just want to share with GP, may be they can also get benefit

Lootanay ka moqa to mila tha lekin time per phot na saka  :console:

Thank you.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: alidxb on October 16, 2014, 07:34:52 PM
KSE trade on SATTA MENTAL not FUNDAMENTAL
 :thumbsup_anim:
Pls wait a little; SATTA will again defuse hype in it.This is will be avilable around 200 before Ex date.
Bros/sisters who observed my advise might be happy now.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on October 16, 2014, 09:50:41 PM
What happens n searl
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 16, 2014, 09:56:45 PM
What happens n searl

wohi purana khail............satta ......or buss satta............. to keep out GP
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on October 17, 2014, 08:07:45 AM
What happens n searl

wohi purana khail............satta ......or buss satta............. to keep out GP
GP kya kery yahan...40 rupees say chal k 270 gya.....40 per buy banti thee ya 270 per.....player nay maal ghar tou nahi lay ker jana tha....idher udhar hi baantna tha jo baant dia...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on October 17, 2014, 08:52:06 AM
What happens n searl

wohi purana khail............satta ......or buss satta............. to keep out GP
GP kya kery yahan...40 rupees say chal k 270 gya.....40 per buy banti thee ya 270 per.....player nay maal ghar tou nahi lay ker jana tha....idher udhar hi baantna tha jo baant dia...

Bhai 40 nahi 10 rupee se gaya hai lakin agar sirf player ly k gaya hai then see results......... Bonus every year but they were able to maintain EPS rather successful in increasing it also company was able to establish its core business and support lines please go through it:

Now the “Group” consist of : Holding company The Searle Company Limited (formerly Searle Pakistan Limited) Subsidiary companies
IBL HealthCare Limited, Searle Pharmaceuticals (Private) Limited, Searle Laboratories (Private) Limited.

The Group is engaged in sale of food and consumer items, manufacture of pharmaceutical items for other companies and marketing, selling and distribution of healthcare products.

The Searle Company Limited (formerly Searle Pakistan Limited) (the holding company) was incorporated in Pakistan as a private limited company in October 1965. In November 1993, the holding company was converted to a public limited company. Its shares are quoted on the Karachi and Islamabad stock exchanges. The holding company is principally engaged in the manufacture of pharmaceutical products and a low calorie sweetener. In addition, the holding company is engaged in sale of food and consumer items, and manufacture of pharmaceutical items for other companies. The registered office of the holding company is situated at First Floor, N.I.C. Building, Abbasi Shaheed Road, Karachi.

With effect from September 3, 2012 the holding company has changed its name to “The Searle Company Limited” from “Searle Pakistan Limited”. With effect from June 17, 2011 International Brands (Private) Limited has acquired additional shareholding of 15.9 % aggregating to 55.25% of the shareholding of the holding company and has become ultimate holding company.

IBL HealthCare (Private) Limited was incorporated in Pakistan as a private limited company on July 14, 1997. In November 2008 the subsidiary company was converted to a public limited company and its shares were listed on Karachi Stock Exchange. The address of its registered office is 9th Floor, N.I.C. Building, Abbasi Shaheed Road, Karachi. The principal business activities of the subsidiary are marketing, selling and distribution of healthcare products.

Searle Pharmaceuticals (Private) Limited was incorporated in Pakistan as a private limited during the year. The address of its registered office is 1st Floor, N.I.C. Building, Abbasi Shaheed Road, Karachi. The principal business activity of the subsidiary is manufacturing of pharmaceutical products.

Searle Laboratories (Private) Limited was incorporated in Pakistan as a private limited during the year. The address of its registered office is 1st Floor, N.I.C. Building, Abbasi Shaheed Road, Karachi. The principal business activity of the subsidiary is manufacturing of pharmaceutical products.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 17, 2014, 09:22:40 AM
open hotay hi cap ho gia MASHALLAH , AB ISAY KAM UZ KAM 200 SAY PEHLY BREAK NAHI LEGANI CHAHIYE
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on October 17, 2014, 09:32:47 AM
open hotay hi cap ho gia MASHALLAH , AB ISAY KAM UZ KAM 200 SAY PEHLY BREAK NAHI LEGANI CHAHIYE

 :fingerscrossed1: Lakin un Baray Bhai sb ka kya hoga jo Upper se Lower Cap lagwa daitay hain baqi inshaAllah as you said paiwasta reh shajar se umeed-e-bahar rakh :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on October 17, 2014, 09:36:45 AM
open hotay hi cap ho gia MASHALLAH , AB ISAY KAM UZ KAM 200 SAY PEHLY BREAK NAHI LEGANI CHAHIYE

 :fingerscrossed1: Lakin un Baray Bhai sb ka kya hoga jo Upper se Lower Cap lagwa daitay hain baqi inshaAllah as you said paiwasta reh shajar se umeed-e-bahar rakh :good

:)
It will perform and post better results in fy15. I think from first quarter they will start to book rental income as well from their office property.
Hold tight. Srvi dekhlo :P
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 17, 2014, 09:51:19 AM
open hotay hi cap ho gia MASHALLAH , AB ISAY KAM UZ KAM 200 SAY PEHLY BREAK NAHI LEGANI CHAHIYE

 :fingerscrossed1: Lakin un Baray Bhai sb ka kya hoga jo Upper se Lower Cap lagwa daitay hain baqi inshaAllah as you said paiwasta reh shajar se umeed-e-bahar rakh :good

:)
It will perform and post better results in fy15. I think from first quarter they will start to book rental income as well from their office property.
Hold tight. Srvi dekhlo :P

SBM main nay jo bonus lenay wali strategy change ki thi only due to that fear that I may not get after ex bcz I was expecting lock dar lock. But I could not understand why BBs kept it at lower lock every day before ex. Second HIGHNOON bi main nay March tak hold k liye liya tha. HIGHNOON ko at Rs 250 mainay lot to liya tha ,but phota na ja saka or trap ho gia. Anyway life is learning process till last breath.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 17, 2014, 10:05:07 AM
http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?0.11228174943837088&id=4&nid=058811
BM on 23rd
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 17, 2014, 10:36:37 AM
There is a piece of bread (roti) which you as shareholders have.. uss k 2 tukrey agar krdein to wo 2 rotian nahi ban jaatein.,... same is the case with "bonus shares"  :skeptic: Dont know why janta gets so excited..

bhai 2 roties hi banti hain, bcz mostly it is observed that after ex, the price goes again at that level where it was before i.e. last day of book closure.  so bonus share hamari dosri roti ho gai  :good

To phr EX honay k foran baad leylein and book capital gain when price fills the gap.. whats the difference??
Payout ki announcement k baad jo caps lagain gay aur X honein tak jo price appreciation ho gi os ka hisab kita kon rakhay ga.

Exactly.. Announcement k bad k caps ka kia logical reason hai?? This is what I am saying originally.. Roti 1 he hai.. bus tukrey 2 hogaye hain.. investors thinking k unhe 2 rotian mil rahi hain..
If u have 100 shares and mkt price is Rs. 200. If 40% cash dividend is announced u will get Rs. 400 as dividend. If 40% bonus is paid and no price appreciation is there the X price will be Rs. 142.86. As a bonus u will get 40 shares. Now if u sell these bonus shares @ X price i.e. 142.86 u will get Rs. 5,714. Ab bonus issue pa share paagal na ho to kia ho.

What about those 100 share jn ki mrkt value 20,000 thi but ab 100*142.86= 14,286 reh gayi.. That + 5714= 20,000.. back to square 1.
Lets have a test case of Searl. Check kar laina k bonus issue say pehlay price kia thi aur X kis rate pa hota hay.

dehan bhai test case a gia hay I bought searl around 267, after x my price become 191. after 191 I am in profit INSHALLAH. I hope will fill the price gap and will rebound, it may take some time. Mostly will depend on 1st qtr result, if good then it will recover soon. bonus main hamaisha prfot hi hota hay dividend main utna nahi jitna bonus ka maza hay
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Dehan on October 17, 2014, 10:57:29 AM
There is a piece of bread (roti) which you as shareholders have.. uss k 2 tukrey agar krdein to wo 2 rotian nahi ban jaatein.,... same is the case with "bonus shares"  :skeptic: Dont know why janta gets so excited..

bhai 2 roties hi banti hain, bcz mostly it is observed that after ex, the price goes again at that level where it was before i.e. last day of book closure.  so bonus share hamari dosri roti ho gai  :good

To phr EX honay k foran baad leylein and book capital gain when price fills the gap.. whats the difference??
Payout ki announcement k baad jo caps lagain gay aur X honein tak jo price appreciation ho gi os ka hisab kita kon rakhay ga.

Exactly.. Announcement k bad k caps ka kia logical reason hai?? This is what I am saying originally.. Roti 1 he hai.. bus tukrey 2 hogaye hain.. investors thinking k unhe 2 rotian mil rahi hain..
If u have 100 shares and mkt price is Rs. 200. If 40% cash dividend is announced u will get Rs. 400 as dividend. If 40% bonus is paid and no price appreciation is there the X price will be Rs. 142.86. As a bonus u will get 40 shares. Now if u sell these bonus shares @ X price i.e. 142.86 u will get Rs. 5,714. Ab bonus issue pa share paagal na ho to kia ho.

What about those 100 share jn ki mrkt value 20,000 thi but ab 100*142.86= 14,286 reh gayi.. That + 5714= 20,000.. back to square 1.
Lets have a test case of Searl. Check kar laina k bonus issue say pehlay price kia thi aur X kis rate pa hota hay.

dehan bhai test case a gia hay I bought searl around 267, after x my price become 191. after 191 I am in profit INSHALLAH. I hope will fill the price gap and will rebound, it may take some time. Mostly will depend on 1st qtr result, if good then it will recover soon. bonus main hamaisha prfot hi hota hay dividend main utna nahi jitna bonus ka maza hay
X price is 171.66. Aur aj 1st day hi cap hay. Masha Allah.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: misterjaved on October 17, 2014, 04:01:41 PM
180.24 ye rate down ane ki waja ? can any one explain what is reason.. devidend ?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: alidxb on October 17, 2014, 08:33:01 PM
It has gone Ex- bonus today.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: RedAng on October 17, 2014, 11:12:37 PM
Ex bonus ki wajah say upper locks kyu lag raey hain? Please explain
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 17, 2014, 11:32:29 PM
Ex bonus ki wajah say upper locks kyu lag raey hain? Please explain

bhai meray usi bonus ki wejah say jaisay pehley lower lock leg rehay thay  :D.............ab INSHALLAH oper legain gay
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on October 17, 2014, 11:37:04 PM
 :biggthumpup: :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 17, 2014, 11:41:45 PM
It was kept under pressure during spot by BBs. Fundamentally it is very good and strong share. Mostly small investor exit before X, as some people donot want to hold it bcz they will get bonus shares after 40 days and during that period mkt kehain bi ja sekti hay, so they thougt they will buy it after x

EX price was very attractive at 171 to buy it so everyone rush to buy it that is why it has upper lock. The company growth is marvelous. They are diversifying their business through investments in their subsidiary companies which will have positive impact on earnings of the parent company in near future. This is good share and INSHALLAH people who will hold it will definitely get benefit in short term and long term.

Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on October 18, 2014, 03:58:54 PM
Agreed
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sst569 on October 18, 2014, 07:40:44 PM
200soon inshAllah
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: misterjaved on October 18, 2014, 07:44:50 PM
look attractive
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 18, 2014, 10:38:31 PM
if IBHL result good on Tuesday, Searl  will be upper lock again. there are chances that next whole week it remain at upper cap............lets see how it behave next week...........according to our wishes........... or move according to BBs.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on October 18, 2014, 10:41:15 PM
Must sell on next upper lock if happens
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 18, 2014, 10:46:57 PM
Must sell on next upper lock if happens

what do u think when it will be upper lock, what if IBHL result is better ,and what if Seral result is better, still you will give sell call nadeem bhai
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on October 19, 2014, 04:08:35 AM
Must sell on next upper lock if happens

"if happen"  :bangin:
Boss lock tou lagay ga lakin open ho bhi jaey to no issue; Bonus credit honay tak 200+ for sure inshaAllah  :rtfm:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on October 19, 2014, 10:46:06 AM
Must sell on next upper lock if happens

"if happen"  :bangin:
Boss lock tou lagay ga lakin open ho bhi jaey to no issue; Bonus credit honay tak 200+ for sure inshaAllah  :rtfm:

lol aap to x bonus k baad leney waley they, mila kesey aapko  :[
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on October 19, 2014, 05:27:49 PM
Must sell on next upper lock if happens

"if happen"  :bangin:
Boss lock tou lagay ga lakin open ho bhi jaey to no issue; Bonus credit honay tak 200+ for sure inshaAllah  :rtfm:

lol aap to x bonus k baad leney waley they, mila kesey aapko  :[

I was expecting 180 after XB lakin when it seemed heading towards 170 bought at 245 & 244 on last day before XB.......... got an average of 175 now lets see what comes up  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 20, 2014, 09:32:13 AM
good opportunity to buy at these rate for long term
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 20, 2014, 10:11:54 AM
good opportunity to buy at these rate for long term

ho gia cap MASHALLAH  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on October 20, 2014, 11:55:13 AM
good opportunity to buy at these rate for long term

ho gia cap MASHALLAH  :biggthumpup:

I dont know why but bought some more  :confused1:
 :tongue:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: pax on October 21, 2014, 03:24:42 PM
Doubled on dip. I think it'll touch 200 soon.
Fingers crossed. :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Aybaig on October 21, 2014, 03:27:59 PM
IBLHL Eps 3.43 result announced
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 23, 2014, 09:51:36 AM
Highnoon meeting at 11:00am
Abbott meeting at 11:30am
Searl meeting at 12:00pm


Lets see what comes out for these three main companies. I guess the result of these 3 companies will set the future trend of pharma sector
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on October 23, 2014, 01:32:14 PM
(http://www.kse.com.pk/newsimage/59305-2.gif)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: EHM on October 23, 2014, 01:43:12 PM
excellent result  :dance   :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: akbar.aqil on October 27, 2014, 01:32:58 PM
Target price batao? Kal nikalna hai ya nahi?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ajk on October 27, 2014, 01:45:55 PM
when 40% bonus shares are coming ??? any idea
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on October 27, 2014, 03:56:18 PM
when 40% bonus shares are coming ??? any idea

Arround 25th of November  :console:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on October 27, 2014, 10:48:07 PM
Kahan gaye searl xb se pehle 200 par dekhne walay ?:p

Too hot to handle  :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 27, 2014, 11:39:59 PM
Kahan gaye searl xb se pehle 200 par dekhne walay ?:p

Too hot to handle  :thumbsup_anim:

datay reho muna bhai
INSHALLAH depending upon Imran dharna position in 30th nov
Dec target price looks Rs.300
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on October 27, 2014, 11:47:45 PM
Kahan gaye searl xb se pehle 200 par dekhne walay ?:p

Too hot to handle  :thumbsup_anim:

datay reho muna bhai
INSHALLAH depending upon Imran dharna position in 30th nov
Dec target price looks Rs.300
Bhai its almost 300 . 296.17 to be precise if you add 40% bonus in current price  :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 28, 2014, 12:05:56 AM
Kahan gaye searl xb se pehle 200 par dekhne walay ?:p

Too hot to handle  :thumbsup_anim:

datay reho muna bhai
INSHALLAH depending upon Imran dharna position in 30th nov
Dec target price looks Rs.300
Bhai its almost 300 . 296.17 to be precise if you add 40% bonus in current price  :good

Cheetah bhai, hum to do do rotian khanay waly hain INSHALLAH, ap bi thora or wait ker lain ap ko bi do hiran(deer) mil jain gay ji bhar ker khayie ga.  :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on October 28, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
good opportunity to buy at these rate for long term

ho gia cap MASHALLAH  :biggthumpup:

I dont know why but bought some more  :confused1:
 :tongue:

 :shoaby: :D Alhumdulillah........................
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 29, 2014, 10:25:46 AM
Kahan gaye searl xb se pehle 200 par dekhne walay ?:p

Too hot to handle  :thumbsup_anim:

datay reho muna bhai
INSHALLAH depending upon Imran dharna position in 30th nov
Dec target price looks Rs.300
Bhai its almost 300 . 296.17 to be precise if you add 40% bonus in current price  :good

Cheetah bhai, hum to do do rotian khanay waly hain INSHALLAH, ap bi thora or wait ker lain ap ko bi do hiran(deer) mil jain gay ji bhar ker khayie ga.  :thumbsup_anim:

cheeta bhai mazay kerain......... jin logoan nay bonus availe kiye double meza
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on October 29, 2014, 11:31:09 PM
Kahan gaye searl xb se pehle 200 par dekhne walay ?:p

Too hot to handle  :thumbsup_anim:

datay reho muna bhai
INSHALLAH depending upon Imran dharna position in 30th nov
Dec target price looks Rs.300
Bhai its almost 300 . 296.17 to be precise if you add 40% bonus in current price  :good

Cheetah bhai, hum to do do rotian khanay waly hain INSHALLAH, ap bi thora or wait ker lain ap ko bi do hiran(deer) mil jain gay ji bhar ker khayie ga.  :thumbsup_anim:

cheeta bhai mazay kerain......... jin logoan nay bonus availe kiye double meza

Hahahhah ..maidaan loot lyaa ap ne tou :tongue: . 2 rotiyan dabbay main .  :thumbsup_anim: Alhamdullilah
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on October 30, 2014, 12:07:59 AM
As general understanding a bonus is taken as k Company issues bonus when they are sure that they will be able to sustain current EPS despite increase in number of shares coz of bonus issue. Increasing equity from retained earnings means something favorable ahead. Therefore, instead of above debate we should focus whether the Company can maintain EPS???  :thanks:

Laooo phir SEARL 300 inshaAllah  :thumbsup_anim:

Agreed & yes they can.
 :thumbsup_anim:

1) directors are optimistic about the company's future hence they have declared 40% bonus and no cash as they look to reinvest earnings back.
2) company's stock price  will recover from 40% bonus within 6-12 months.
3) all other discussion is irrelevant.

company's stock price  will recover from 40% bonus within 6-12 months??? :o Do u have empirical evidence on that???

Maybe. You can always check back in 12 months time.
It closed at 255 on 24th sept, the day it announced the 40% bonus.
@ 255 market cap was 15.635 billion
You should expect market cap of 21-22 billion this time next year

* in my earlier post I said it will recover from the 40% from xd price, that one is more aggressive, but 40% increase in market cap is probably a more technically sound projection ..





Most of small float sahres run on inside info only & basis of fundamentals is not observed. Searle run up is also a classic recent example of use of inside information by vested group of people. It was 172 on Sep 01 & 265 on Sep 25. What could happen in 25 days in Co's fundamentals?; Nothing can change in fundamentals that justifies Rs. 54% growth in 25 days only; & 47% growth is got before the notice of Bonus to general public; only one do happen; manupilation under the mighty force of  "INSIDE INFO" by well connected people. Janta ride the bandbagon & hurt itself.
Just remember what I said above & now see its nosedive till it reaches it real value; avoid buying as it will crash daily.

Sold 25% today.
It didnt take that long to get that appreciation, eh ?
  :biggthumpup:
 :console: for the naysayers
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on October 30, 2014, 12:16:12 AM
As general understanding a bonus is taken as k Company issues bonus when they are sure that they will be able to sustain current EPS despite increase in number of shares coz of bonus issue. Increasing equity from retained earnings means something favorable ahead. Therefore, instead of above debate we should focus whether the Company can maintain EPS???  :thanks:

Laooo phir SEARL 300 inshaAllah  :thumbsup_anim:

Agreed & yes they can.
 :thumbsup_anim:

1) directors are optimistic about the company's future hence they have declared 40% bonus and no cash as they look to reinvest earnings back.
2) company's stock price  will recover from 40% bonus within 6-12 months.
3) all other discussion is irrelevant.

company's stock price  will recover from 40% bonus within 6-12 months??? :o Do u have empirical evidence on that???

Maybe. You can always check back in 12 months time.
It closed at 255 on 24th sept, the day it announced the 40% bonus.
@ 255 market cap was 15.635 billion
You should expect market cap of 21-22 billion this time next year

* in my earlier post I said it will recover from the 40% from xd price, that one is more aggressive, but 40% increase in market cap is probably a more technically sound projection ..





Most of small float sahres run on inside info only & basis of fundamentals is not observed. Searle run up is also a classic recent example of use of inside information by vested group of people. It was 172 on Sep 01 & 265 on Sep 25. What could happen in 25 days in Co's fundamentals?; Nothing can change in fundamentals that justifies Rs. 54% growth in 25 days only; & 47% growth is got before the notice of Bonus to general public; only one do happen; manupilation under the mighty force of  "INSIDE INFO" by well connected people. Janta ride the bandbagon & hurt itself.
Just remember what I said above & now see its nosedive till it reaches it real value; avoid buying as it will crash daily.

Sold 25% today.
It didnt take that long to get that appreciation, eh ?
  :biggthumpup:
 :console: for the naysayers

Waqai searl chaa gaya. Congrats to holders  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on October 30, 2014, 08:09:58 PM
http://www.searlecompany.com/remos_downloads/spl1q2014.85.pdf

sold another 25% today  :s1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on October 30, 2014, 08:13:28 PM
So finally bonus free . 40% return in 10 days  :D
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on October 30, 2014, 08:16:29 PM
So finally bonus free . 40% return in 10 days  :D

 :laugh:
yes. yum
if they can maintain margins then it can still go a lot a higher.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on November 06, 2014, 10:56:39 AM
Searl hold kernay  walo kia hal chal hay  :clap1: Datay reho bonus tak
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on November 07, 2014, 10:11:38 AM
http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?0.4126759898513817&id=4&nid=060163

After this news I sold all my Searle.
This is suspicious news because company ceased the chief financial officer from 23-10-2014. The same day when company announced the 1st Qtr result. Its looks CFO did some deliberate fishy things in accounts.
This is just a caution.

Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on November 07, 2014, 10:22:37 AM
http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?0.4126759898513817&id=4&nid=060163

After this news I sold all my Searle.
This is suspicious news because company ceased the chief financial officer from 23-10-2014. The same day when company announced the 1st Qtr result. Its looks CFO did some deliberate fishy things in accounts.
This is just a caution.

bahio, bat ye hay keh as I bared lot of losses, so ab ager pata bhi kharkay to main wehan say phot jata hoan. ALLAH ka shuker hay Searle nay kafi profit day dia, bonus kay aleydah mzay hain. photna hi mujhay behter lega.......sub ko main nay ye news share ker di hay.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: farhan on November 07, 2014, 02:27:26 PM
http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?0.4126759898513817&id=4&nid=060163

After this news I sold all my Searle.
This is suspicious news because company ceased the chief financial officer from 23-10-2014. The same day when company announced the 1st Qtr result. Its looks CFO did some deliberate fishy things in accounts.
This is just a caution.

bahio, bat ye hay keh as I bared lot of losses, so ab ager pata bhi kharkay to main wehan say phot jata hoan. ALLAH ka shuker hay Searle nay kafi profit day dia, bonus kay aleydah mzay hain. photna hi mujhay behter lega.......sub ko main nay ye news share ker di hay.

Thanks for sharing this news.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on November 07, 2014, 08:06:18 PM
Haan bhai !!! Kesa diyaa ?  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: talha shahid700 on November 15, 2014, 12:09:55 AM
Any one get Bonus Shares?
I didn't pay tax on bonus share right now. To to pay tax on bonus share?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sst569 on November 15, 2014, 02:35:40 AM
Any one get Bonus Shares?
I didn't pay tax on bonus share right now. To to pay tax on bonus share?

Did you recieve letter for tax payment?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: talha shahid700 on November 15, 2014, 01:54:08 PM
Not yet.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on November 18, 2014, 12:29:35 PM
Ab yeh kahan ja raha hai..... :ohmy:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on November 18, 2014, 01:28:15 PM
Ab yeh kahan ja raha hai..... :ohmy:

if q2 as good as q1, then 300 .. if q3 as good as q1 n 2 then 400
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: stockz_123 on November 18, 2014, 02:37:51 PM
Ab yeh kahan ja raha hai..... :ohmy:

if q2 as good as q1, then 300 .. if q3 as good as q1 n 2 then 400

lao maal...  :s1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Sharoze123 on November 18, 2014, 04:25:17 PM
Ab yeh kahan ja raha hai..... :ohmy:

if q2 as good as q1, then 300 .. if q3 as good as q1 n 2 then 400

I suspect that it might touch 300 before q2, perhaps even this month.
DRAP is going to finalize the new drug policy today and sent it to the PM. It's likely going to be referenced based pricing otherwise DRAP will be taking on excessive headaches. In this case ,we could see pharma margins jump by a lot.
But perhaps that's already been priced in?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on November 18, 2014, 05:20:20 PM
Ab yeh kahan ja raha hai..... :ohmy:

if q2 as good as q1, then 300 .. if q3 as good as q1 n 2 then 400

Sir ji 2nd Qtr mai Bonus ki thori bohut adjustment tou chalay gi na  :tongue:

 :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: stockz_123 on November 19, 2014, 05:37:43 PM
SEARL- Over 100% price increase in key medicines

The Searle Company (SEARL) maintains key businesses of manufacturing pharmaceutical and consumer products. In addition, SEARL act as intermediary while selling other imported food and consumer products.

It has 50% holding in IBL Healthcare (IBLHL), whose core business is marketing and distributing healthcare products.

SEARL- an exceptional case

SEARL is an exceptional case while considering price hike scenario. As per the market survey we found that SEARL has increased drugs prices by more than 100% during one year. SEARL claims Syrup Hydellin as No.1 cough syrup which is a cash cow for the company; its price has been increased by 3 times during 12-15 months short period while volume remained same. The impact of prices hike has been witnessed in company's 1QFY15 financial statement, where company enjoys 43.4% gross margin against 40.8% gross margin reported in FY14.

SEARL: Talks of new vaccines

In pharmaceutical industry companies, spend lot of money on research and development for developing new vaccine or drug. Likewise as per some market sources we came to now that SEARL is also working on developing new vaccine in collaboration with its associate company Nextar Pharma Private Limited. We expect that there will be good impact on its profitability once this vaccine is launched. Based on these conditions we expect SEARL's net revenue to increase by 27% YoY during FY15 and company may report FY15 EPS of Rs 14- Rs 15.

Drug pricing policy - A question mark

Beside hike in prices, pharmaceutical manufacturers are still deliberately waiting for Drug Pricing Policy to be finalized by Drug Regulatory Authority of Pakistan (DRAP). The authority and manufacturers have set down many times for a meeting during two years but couldn't finalize any policy. The unavailability of competitive pricing policy has restricted manufacturers including SEARL to launch new products and future expansions.

Valuation- still cheaper vis-a-vis peers

SEARL currently yields expected PE of 16x based on our expected EPS of Rs 14.3 for FY15 as against our pharma universe expected PE of 19x - 20x.

Usually pharma sector seems to beat benchmark PE of KSE & due to relative Nutrition segments they are align with food sector PE.

Peer companies like ABOT, FEROZ and GLAXO are trading at expected PE of 22x, 26.7x and 45x respectively.

SCS
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on November 19, 2014, 06:02:07 PM
SEARL- Over 100% price increase in key medicines

The Searle Company (SEARL) maintains key businesses of manufacturing pharmaceutical and consumer products. In addition, SEARL act as intermediary while selling other imported food and consumer products.

It has 50% holding in IBL Healthcare (IBLHL), whose core business is marketing and distributing healthcare products.

SEARL- an exceptional case

SEARL is an exceptional case while considering price hike scenario. As per the market survey we found that SEARL has increased drugs prices by more than 100% during one year. SEARL claims Syrup Hydellin as No.1 cough syrup which is a cash cow for the company; its price has been increased by 3 times during 12-15 months short period while volume remained same. The impact of prices hike has been witnessed in company's 1QFY15 financial statement, where company enjoys 43.4% gross margin against 40.8% gross margin reported in FY14.

SEARL: Talks of new vaccines

In pharmaceutical industry companies, spend lot of money on research and development for developing new vaccine or drug. Likewise as per some market sources we came to now that SEARL is also working on developing new vaccine in collaboration with its associate company Nextar Pharma Private Limited. We expect that there will be good impact on its profitability once this vaccine is launched. Based on these conditions we expect SEARL's net revenue to increase by 27% YoY during FY15 and company may report FY15 EPS of Rs 14- Rs 15.

Drug pricing policy - A question mark

Beside hike in prices, pharmaceutical manufacturers are still deliberately waiting for Drug Pricing Policy to be finalized by Drug Regulatory Authority of Pakistan (DRAP). The authority and manufacturers have set down many times for a meeting during two years but couldn't finalize any policy. The unavailability of competitive pricing policy has restricted manufacturers including SEARL to launch new products and future expansions.

Valuation- still cheaper vis-a-vis peers

SEARL currently yields expected PE of 16x based on our expected EPS of Rs 14.3 for FY15 as against our pharma universe expected PE of 19x - 20x.

Usually pharma sector seems to beat benchmark PE of KSE & due to relative Nutrition segments they are align with food sector PE.

Peer companies like ABOT, FEROZ and GLAXO are trading at expected PE of 22x, 26.7x and 45x respectively.

SCS

What a true analysis. It is very very difficult to set a pricing formula for our Pharma Sector.
 :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on November 19, 2014, 06:04:30 PM
At PE of 26 its price should be 350+
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on November 20, 2014, 10:07:06 AM
SEARL bonus credited after deduction of 5% shares for Samdhi Minister   :@
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on November 20, 2014, 10:17:09 AM
SEARL bonus credited after deduction of 5% shares for Samdhi Minister   :@
I did not get any bonus shares.

mera guess hay mkt ko daikh ker aj sari pharma ko lower lock legay ga
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on November 20, 2014, 11:21:54 AM
I got bonus shares
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sst569 on November 20, 2014, 04:23:31 PM
SEARL bonus credited after deduction of 5% shares for Samdhi Minister   :@

Inthink they deducted more than 5% shares.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on November 21, 2014, 10:54:19 AM
Ab yeh kahan ja raha hai..... :ohmy:

if q2 as good as q1, then 300 .. if q3 as good as q1 n 2 then 400

Sir ji 2nd Qtr mai Bonus ki thori bohut adjustment tou chalay gi na  :tongue:

 :thumbsup_anim:

True... and there will be some  :biggthumpup: adjustment of rental income from Investment Property in 2015...plus some  :biggthumpup: adjustment due to infusion business ...plus there will be some  :biggthumpup: on account of growth in IBL...plus there will be some  :biggthumpup: on account of growth in overall revenue due to price increases and dividends from subsidiaries...

And all these will insha-Allah take it to new highs... :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on November 21, 2014, 11:05:48 AM
Ab yeh kahan ja raha hai..... :ohmy:

if q2 as good as q1, then 300 .. if q3 as good as q1 n 2 then 400

Sir ji 2nd Qtr mai Bonus ki thori bohut adjustment tou chalay gi na  :tongue:

 :thumbsup_anim:

True... and there will be some  :biggthumpup: adjustment of rental income from Investment Property in 2015...plus some  :biggthumpup: adjustment due to infusion business ...plus there will be some  :biggthumpup: on account of growth in IBL...plus there will be some  :biggthumpup: on account of growth in overall revenue due to price increases and dividends from subsidiaries...

And all these will insha-Allah take it to new highs... :thumbsup_anim:

I see Rs. 500/ INSHALLAH till Sept 2015
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on November 21, 2014, 04:06:35 PM
Cap ho he gaya... :D
Alhamdulillah...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on November 22, 2014, 08:15:28 PM
Salam, I would like seniors to provide their expert opinion and guidance to individuals like me about this scrip and its potential for short, medium and long term.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on November 23, 2014, 08:49:47 PM
SEARL bonus credited after deduction of 5% shares for Samdhi Minister   :@

Inthink they deducted more than 5% shares.

its 5% of bonus issue. I also received on 20th after bonus deduction.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aim2b1 on November 23, 2014, 09:55:58 PM
Salam, I would like seniors to provide their expert opinion and guidance to individuals like me about this scrip and its potential for short, medium and long term.

Great share to have in your portfolio, good gains expected if DRAP's suggestion regarding reference pricing system is approved  on 26th Nov then insha'Allah 300 on the cards...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on November 24, 2014, 10:17:11 PM
http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/overview?symbol=SEAR.KA
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on November 24, 2014, 11:31:12 PM
the reason for Searle going down

I bot some  ;)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on November 25, 2014, 04:19:54 AM
DRAP has to announce pricing policy on 26 November. But it didn't and now this happened.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/796552/drug-pricing-policy-chemists-association-sends-notice-to-drap/
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on November 25, 2014, 09:58:18 AM
lagta hai tribune walaoon ki maal nahin milla

issi liye khabar chap dee  :tongue:

not a reliable source of information
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on November 25, 2014, 11:02:15 AM
If any body want to take fresh entry, by seeing the circumstances it looks it may touch again 240 which will be a good opportunity
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: akbar.aqil on November 25, 2014, 11:26:32 AM
Don't think its a good time to enter. Wait for Friday to enter on risk
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on November 25, 2014, 11:27:25 AM
DRAP ki policy
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on November 25, 2014, 11:37:57 AM
DRAP ki policy

public ka moral boost kernay k liye thi
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on November 25, 2014, 11:59:34 AM
main nay thora aur buy kar lia hai abb shaid 240 dikha jaye  :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on November 25, 2014, 09:13:05 PM
main nay thora aur buy kar lia hai abb shaid 240 dikha jaye  :good

Alhamdulillah, that it didn't went down with the market. Though during the last 6 sessions market dropped by more than 1000 points.
Anybody has any information on Nextar Pharma? Please share
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on November 29, 2014, 12:46:33 PM
update on DRAP policy
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on November 29, 2014, 12:59:04 PM
update on DRAP policy

Khamoshi  hai...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Fahd on November 29, 2014, 01:12:36 PM
update on DRAP policy

Khamoshi  hai...
Postponed for unidentified period.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on November 29, 2014, 11:48:35 PM
shit
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on November 30, 2014, 02:46:36 AM
Searl main ab BBs involve ho gay hain, now there will be sharp unexpected ups and down, so please go for long term. Avoid short term or trading if you cannot bear the loss.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on November 30, 2014, 04:49:48 PM
I have bot on delivery for long term
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on December 02, 2014, 10:10:26 AM
Sold eve thing at 274…………   :s1:

yes a script restricted in narrow band with huge volume against sector performance means someone is cooking something good or bad so avoid satta.

Alhamdulillah for very handy return already    :thumbsup_anim:

Bye Bye SEARL  :thanks:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on December 02, 2014, 10:44:25 AM
Sold eve thing at 274…………   :s1:

yes a script restricted in narrow band with huge volume against sector performance means someone is cooking something good or bad so avoid satta.

Alhamdulillah for very handy return already    :thumbsup_anim:

Bye Bye SEARL  :thanks:

I already mentioned in my previous post that BBs is main a gaye hain or ab kuch bi ho sekta hay takht ya takhta.........so be carefull..........today I saw huge selling volume 51000, 25000 etc......who is selling in a big qty ???????????????
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on December 02, 2014, 11:24:36 AM
Yes each and every time it edges above 274 huge selling pours in in big chunks and price is forced to around 272-273 but as soon as it comes down to 272 selling disappears  :confused1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on December 02, 2014, 11:33:20 AM
Yes each and every time it edges above 274 huge selling pours in in big chunks and price is forced to around 272-273 but as soon as it comes down to 272 selling disappears  :confused1:

BBs in action   :dance................tera kia ho ga kalia   :skeptic:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: stockz_123 on December 02, 2014, 12:04:46 PM
lay maal..... stay cautious
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on December 02, 2014, 12:07:39 PM
Yes each and every time it edges above 274 huge selling pours in in big chunks and price is forced to around 272-273 but as soon as it comes down to 272 selling disappears  :confused1:

BBs in action   :dance................tera kia ho ga kalia   :skeptic:

 :tongue: yeh to gussa hi kar gaey................ btw hum to sale kar chukay dost ab to sirf tamasha daikh rahay hain  ::)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on December 02, 2014, 01:07:53 PM
Searle is an item to hold till June 2015. Then you will insha-Allah reap the full benefits/gains.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: stockz_123 on December 02, 2014, 03:51:56 PM
lay maal..... stay cautious

abhi to party shuru hui hy... ;)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on December 02, 2014, 05:01:22 PM
Searle is an item to hold till June 2015. Then you will insha-Allah reap the full benefits/gains.

 :biggthumpup:

BB ho yaan SB best script to hold in pharma sector
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on December 03, 2014, 10:57:18 AM
ALHAMDOLILAH jo dar SEARL kay baray main peda hua tha finish ho gia. INSHALLH aj ager ye 280 say above close hua to 300 will be in near future. Now you can be steady firm
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on December 03, 2014, 11:14:08 AM
ALHAMDOLILAH jo dar SEARL kay baray main peda hua tha finish ho gia. INSHALLH aj ager ye 280 say above close hua to 300 will be in near future. Now you can be steady firm

Loto bhai...insha-Allah 500 by June 2015.... :biggthumpup:
Just hold it tight...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on December 03, 2014, 11:25:21 AM
ALHAMDOLILAH jo dar SEARL kay baray main peda hua tha finish ho gia. INSHALLH aj ager ye 280 say above close hua to 300 will be in near future. Now you can be steady firm

Loto bhai...insha-Allah 500 by June 2015.... :biggthumpup:
Just hold it tight...

main b is main kafi positive that soroh say hi but last few days huge volume and narrow range nay thora dar peda ker dia tha. Daikhain jab Abbot 900, Feroz 700 ho ga to HIGHNOON and SEARL 300 per achay nahi legain gay.............mera target 500 ka Sept ka hay INSHALLAH
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on December 03, 2014, 11:50:03 AM
 :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim:

I truly appreciate this forum and advice received from you people...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: M Obaid Khan on December 03, 2014, 03:07:30 PM
ALHAMDOLILAH jo dar SEARL kay baray main peda hua tha finish ho gia. INSHALLH aj ager ye 280 say above close hua to 300 will be in near future. Now you can be steady firm

Loto bhai...insha-Allah 500 by June 2015.... :biggthumpup:
Just hold it tight...

main b is main kafi positive that soroh say hi but last few days huge volume and narrow range nay thora dar peda ker dia tha. Daikhain jab Abbot 900, Feroz 700 ho ga to HIGHNOON and SEARL 300 per achay nahi legain gay.............mera target 500 ka Sept ka hay INSHALLAH

Hahahahahahaha......  :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on December 03, 2014, 03:09:51 PM
ALHAMDOLILAH jo dar SEARL kay baray main peda hua tha finish ho gia. INSHALLH aj ager ye 280 say above close hua to 300 will be in near future. Now you can be steady firm

Bro jaey ga lakin jhatkay dy dy kar  :console: 270 k oper nechay........
today was another usual day at office ;-) kal 6 rupee nechay aaj 6 rupee oper hisaab brabar and volume  :ohmy:

Lagay Raho  :[
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on December 04, 2014, 09:13:01 PM
Quality buying by one prominent member of kse for last two days ready to cross 310 next week buy as much u can laoo Searle 300
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on December 04, 2014, 11:07:10 PM
Quality buying by one prominent member of kse for last two days ready to cross 310 next week buy as much u can laoo Searle 300

 :thanks: app ki tip fit thee on akzo

plz share dehan if you have on dgkc and efoods
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on December 04, 2014, 11:44:34 PM
Quality buying by one prominent member of kse for last two days ready to cross 310 next week buy as much u can laoo Searle 300

 :thanks: app ki tip fit thee on akzo

plz share dehan if you have on dgkc and efoods
thanks dgkc inshaallah 110+ and efood 120 jan-15
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on December 05, 2014, 01:19:22 AM
 :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on December 05, 2014, 07:03:46 PM
Laoo Searle 300
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: online88 on December 05, 2014, 07:35:28 PM
Laoo Searle 300
bought today at an average of 283.4 , looks to cross 300 by next week IN SHA ALLAH
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on December 06, 2014, 03:29:18 AM
Looks that DRAP will also get a BOSS
http://express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102562109&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20141206
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on December 06, 2014, 09:00:12 PM
Extract from Sep'14 FS (Directors' Report) of SEARLE:

Profit before tax as a percent of net sales increased to 20.2% (2013: 12.5%). Similarly, the
profit after tax increased to 15.9% (2013: 8.4%). Our past investments in our subsidiaries have
started paying off the Company in terms of healthy dividends and helped in achieving overall tax
efficiencies due to no tax on the same under the group structure.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on December 06, 2014, 09:48:22 PM
Found very touch resistance at 288.8 when pass then 300+ very quickly
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: salaara579 on December 07, 2014, 03:33:32 PM
what could b its best buying price??
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on December 07, 2014, 04:36:05 PM
what could b its best buying price??
if govt and ik  dialogues begins and market appreciates then above 280 is good buying
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Farrukh Muqeem on December 08, 2014, 12:23:31 PM
what could b its best buying price??
if govt and ik  dialogues begins and market appreciates then above 280 is good buying

any reason why it is down today?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on December 08, 2014, 07:41:25 PM
what could b its best buying price??
if govt and ik  dialogues begins and market appreciates then above 280 is good buying

any reason why it is down today?

This is merely because of political situation in Pakistan.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: stockz_123 on December 11, 2014, 01:42:38 PM
lay maal..... stay cautious

abhi to party shuru hui hy... ;)

hope most of you are out...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on December 16, 2014, 07:07:26 PM
lay maal..... stay cautious

abhi to party shuru hui hy... ;)

hope most of you are out...


First of ALL I pray and my heart cry for those who lost their children today...

http://investorguide360.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/BMA-Research10.pdf

I am not out....I will not sell this share even if it touches 500...Insha-Allah...
No I am still holding...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on December 16, 2014, 09:05:40 PM
lay maal..... stay cautious

abhi to party shuru hui hy... ;)

hope most of you are out...


First of ALL I pray and my heart cry for those who lost their children today...

http://investorguide360.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/BMA-Research10.pdf

I am not out....I will not sell this share even if it touches 500...Insha-Allah...
No I am still holding...

I am also holding
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on December 16, 2014, 11:21:54 PM
me 3
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on December 18, 2014, 11:23:29 PM
made a decent come back
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: stockz_123 on December 18, 2014, 11:43:58 PM
We initiate coverage on The Searle Company Limited (SEARL) with a TP of PKR390/sh offering an upside of 53% on the last closing. Our bullishness on the scrip stems from undemanding market multiples in confluence with earnings CAGR of 37% (consolidated) over the period FY14A-FY17F backed by i) standalone earnings CAGR of 34% over the same period as a trickle down consequence of topline ii) substantial earnings growth in subsidiary IBLHL on the back of 5%-10% price increase announced and continued topline expansion going forward on account of new products and iii) robust growth likely in earnings of wholly owned subsidiary Searle Pharmaceuticals Limited. Key upside triggers to our investment case include recently formed subsidiaries Searle Laboratories and Searle Biosciences where we await clarity on the said ventures before incorporating them in our models. For full year FY15, earnings are expected to clock in at PKR1.5bn (EPS: PKR17.7) resulting in a P/E of 14.5x, a significant discount to average sector multiple of 20x – BUY!

SEARL – A brief introduction: The Searle Company Limited is the country’s third largest listed pharmaceutical company by way of sales with its product portfolio broadly distributed into two main categories, i) Pharmaceutical segment  ?  88% contribution to company’s topline and ii) Healthcare segment  ? 12% contribution to the top?line. Within the Pharmaceutical segment, the contribution of life saving drugs is estimated to be around 20%?30% while the contribution of generic drugs to the total sales of the segment is ~70%?80%.

BMA
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on December 19, 2014, 12:46:38 AM
We initiate coverage on The Searle Company Limited (SEARL) with a TP of PKR390/sh offering an upside of 53% on the last closing. Our bullishness on the scrip stems from undemanding market multiples in confluence with earnings CAGR of 37% (consolidated) over the period FY14A-FY17F backed by i) standalone earnings CAGR of 34% over the same period as a trickle down consequence of topline ii) substantial earnings growth in subsidiary IBLHL on the back of 5%-10% price increase announced and continued topline expansion going forward on account of new products and iii) robust growth likely in earnings of wholly owned subsidiary Searle Pharmaceuticals Limited. Key upside triggers to our investment case include recently formed subsidiaries Searle Laboratories and Searle Biosciences where we await clarity on the said ventures before incorporating them in our models. For full year FY15, earnings are expected to clock in at PKR1.5bn (EPS: PKR17.7) resulting in a P/E of 14.5x, a significant discount to average sector multiple of 20x – BUY!

SEARL – A brief introduction: The Searle Company Limited is the country’s third largest listed pharmaceutical company by way of sales with its product portfolio broadly distributed into two main categories, i) Pharmaceutical segment  ?  88% contribution to company’s topline and ii) Healthcare segment  ? 12% contribution to the top?line. Within the Pharmaceutical segment, the contribution of life saving drugs is estimated to be around 20%?30% while the contribution of generic drugs to the total sales of the segment is ~70%?80%.

BMA

stock bhai shuker hay ap bi is stock (searl) kay bary main +ve huay  :thanks:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: stockz_123 on December 19, 2014, 01:00:14 AM
We initiate coverage on The Searle Company Limited (SEARL) with a TP of PKR390/sh offering an upside of 53% on the last closing. Our bullishness on the scrip stems from undemanding market multiples in confluence with earnings CAGR of 37% (consolidated) over the period FY14A-FY17F backed by i) standalone earnings CAGR of 34% over the same period as a trickle down consequence of topline ii) substantial earnings growth in subsidiary IBLHL on the back of 5%-10% price increase announced and continued topline expansion going forward on account of new products and iii) robust growth likely in earnings of wholly owned subsidiary Searle Pharmaceuticals Limited. Key upside triggers to our investment case include recently formed subsidiaries Searle Laboratories and Searle Biosciences where we await clarity on the said ventures before incorporating them in our models. For full year FY15, earnings are expected to clock in at PKR1.5bn (EPS: PKR17.7) resulting in a P/E of 14.5x, a significant discount to average sector multiple of 20x – BUY!

SEARL – A brief introduction: The Searle Company Limited is the country’s third largest listed pharmaceutical company by way of sales with its product portfolio broadly distributed into two main categories, i) Pharmaceutical segment  ?  88% contribution to company’s topline and ii) Healthcare segment  ? 12% contribution to the top?line. Within the Pharmaceutical segment, the contribution of life saving drugs is estimated to be around 20%?30% while the contribution of generic drugs to the total sales of the segment is ~70%?80%.

BMA

stock bhai shuker hay ap bi is stock (searl) kay bary main +ve huay  :thanks:

bro i'd never been negative about this stock, my intention was just to secure you guys from the losses, look after my cautious call, it went 15rs up cal was at 275 but after that went down till 242 wid cont floors, so wouldn't had been better if someone sold on higher side and bought lower?? instead for yelling a 300 call at 285+... , hope u got the point now.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on December 30, 2014, 02:46:36 PM
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Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: stockz_123 on December 30, 2014, 02:50:01 PM
(http://www.kse.com.pk/newsimage/61125-1.gif)


 :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Irfan on December 30, 2014, 05:25:41 PM
Stockz  timely exit call de ap na  :D bachat ho gaye  :D  :thanks:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: stockz_123 on December 30, 2014, 07:06:46 PM
Stockz  timely exit call de ap na  :D bachat ho gaye  :D  :thanks:

my pleasure bro..  :s1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on December 31, 2014, 09:32:00 AM
Just Don't Sell at these Rates  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umer ashraf on December 31, 2014, 10:07:33 AM
Sector Update                                                       Pharma & Bio-Tech

New Policy Not Healing Pharmaceutical Sector’s Misery


The Possible Verdict from the Government– On the Face of It

As per media sources, a finalized version of the impending drug pricing policy has been sent to the Prime Minister’s (PM) office, with a recommendation for drug prices to remain  frozen at 2013 levels until Jun-16. Following that period, prices will be directly linked to Consumer Price Index (CPI). While this applies to a broad range of medicines, however those drugs which are classified under “hardship” category, i.e. not cost effective under current price setup will be allowed price increases before Jun-16 according to competitive manufacturing costs.

History of the Issue

The debate between pharmaceutical companies and government ministries over drug price increases has been dragging on for a while now, with pharma companies pushing  for a price increase in line with increasing costs of production due to inflation as well as the depreciating rupee, which further adds to the woes of multinationals in particular. From the viewpoint of the policy makers they have constantly been sidetracking the issue from fear of backlash from opposition parties as well as negative sentiment from the public due to price increases making medicines more costly.

Pharmaceutical companies have requested reference pricing to be employed, which links prices of drugs clustered in a category – based on cost of ingredients used, therapeutic use, etc. – to prices in countries with similar socio-economic indicators such as India & Bangladesh. The concept seems highly plausible and transparent, and has been applied in many countries so far. Reference pricing would mean increasing prices of certain drugs, while the prices of some products would be decreased as per prevailing prices in reference countries. However, the price increase would require a level of boldness from the government to face criticism from opposition as well as the public.

Previously, average pricing mechanism was discussed in a draft policy, which immediately faced a torrent of criticism from pharma participants, manufacturers and retailers alike. According to average pricing, prices of drugs would be fixed at the average retail prices of brands selling in the market.

The hard details of the New Policy – If Approved

As per media sources, the document sent by the Ministry of National Health Services (NHS) to the PM’s office includes the following salient features:

Drugs that are classified as low priced would be classified as non-scheduled and are eligible for price increases

·         Drugs to be placed in two categories, namely scheduled drugs – the top 50 used drugs for treating conditions such as cancer, hepatitis, HIV, etc. as well as New Chemical Entities (NCEs) who are entities coming out with new generic drugs  - and non scheduled drugs to make up the remainder in the market.

·         Annual price revisions based linked to CPI (post Jun-16). Prices of scheduled drugs can be increased by 50% of CPI (maximum 4%) and non-scheduled drugs by 70% (maximum 6%) with one increase per year

·         In order to boost exports, those drugs that are being exported to developed markets shall be exempt from domestic price controls

·         Prices of NCEs to be fixed according to prevailing prices in India and Bangladesh

·         If the product is unavailable in India and Bangladesh, the price set shall be equivalent to the lowest retail price in developing countries that employs pricing regulations

·         The prices of generic  NCE substitutes shall be fixed at 30% less than originating brands price, while the prices of NCE originating brands would be reduced by 30% after five years of production

·         Drugs that are classified as low priced would be classified as non-scheduled and are eligible for price increases. All medicines valued at having PKR 2 per tablet/capsule would be considered low priced drugs.

Analysis and Recommendation

The policy is still not final until approval made or amendments proposed by the government. We believe that the current policy suggested by the NHS, albeit better than the Average Pricing mechanism suggested earlier, still does not provide adequate relief to the pharmaceutical companies, given their high overheads and shrinking gross margins due to higher input costs as a result of inflation and the weaker PKR. The policy is not sustainable for the sector as a whole and will act as a deterrent for further investment and growth. We feel that sooner or later, the government will have to face up to this hard fact and devise a policy that ensures growth of the sector, either through increased prices or through subsidies.

 

We reiterate that this situation cannot continue for the sector. The market has reacted negatively today to this recent news, with share prices of most pharma companies all decreasing by 5.0% (hitting lower locks) during the day’s trade on receipt of this news.

 

 

 

 

Analyst:

AHL Research

research@arifhabibltd.com

 

 

 

 

Contact: +92-21-32461106

Disclaimer: The information contained herein is compiled from sources AHL believes to be reliable, but we do not accept responsibility for its accuracy or completeness. It is not intended to be an offer or a solicitation to buy or sell any securities. AHL and its officers or employees may or may not have a position in or with respect to the securities mentioned herein and they do not accept any liability whatsoever for any direct or consequential loss arising from the use of this publication and its contents. AHL may, from time to time, has a consulting relationship with a company being reported upon. All opinions and estimates contained herein constitute our judgment as of the date mentioned in the report and are subject to change without notice.

 

 

 

 
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: online88 on December 31, 2014, 10:56:20 AM
lao lao lao SEARL wapis 250+ IN SHA ALLAH
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on January 25, 2015, 02:53:18 PM
holding
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on January 25, 2015, 04:32:03 PM
holding

Mee too... :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: online88 on January 25, 2015, 04:33:53 PM
holding

Mee too... :good
holding now small quantity only 1.5 K
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: alidxb on January 26, 2015, 01:14:50 AM
Foreign Pharma Companies are unhappy over the situation of proposed Drug policy.
http://www.brecorder.com/br-research/44:miscellaneous/5084:draft-drug-pricing-policy-thumbs-down/
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on January 27, 2015, 11:32:52 AM
 :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on January 27, 2015, 11:52:57 AM
lay maal..... stay cautious

abhi to party shuru hui hy... ;)

hope most of you are out...


First of ALL I pray and my heart cry for those who lost their children today...

http://investorguide360.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/BMA-Research10.pdf

I am not out....I will not sell this share even if it touches 500...Insha-Allah...
No I am still holding...

I am also holding

saber ka phal meeeeeetha
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: fettelx on January 27, 2015, 03:11:12 PM
Entry in searl for medium to longterm? is it safe at these rates
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on January 27, 2015, 04:25:08 PM
Entry in searl for medium to longterm? is it safe at these rates

SAFETY in stocks  uuu
especially at these levels

enter at your own risk keeping in view pricing policy issue BUT A RALLY IS DUE  :rtfm: in-sha-Allah  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: online88 on January 27, 2015, 04:28:13 PM
Holding 4k cap per sale nahin ker saka
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: fettelx on January 29, 2015, 03:43:12 PM
Holding 4k cap per sale nahin ker saka
are you still holding or sold it below cap?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Avi2013 on February 06, 2015, 02:46:18 PM
Seniors
264 ka maal para hai...koe chance hai iska ?? :skeptic: :skeptic:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on February 06, 2015, 03:01:00 PM
Seniors
264 ka maal para hai...koe chance hai iska ?? :skeptic: :skeptic:

hold it..
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Avi2013 on February 06, 2015, 03:21:00 PM
ok...should i add more at 248...Sbm bro ???
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: alidxb on February 06, 2015, 07:19:07 PM
ok...should i add more at 248...Sbm bro ???
Avoid fresh positions.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on February 11, 2015, 12:32:06 PM
half year meeting on 17 Feb at 11:00am
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: M Obaid Khan on February 11, 2015, 02:11:06 PM
Buy Inshallah 235 & 240...........  ::) ::)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on February 16, 2015, 12:22:36 AM

31. The Searle Company Limited
 
17.02.2015 Tuesday
 
12:00 Noon
 
Karachi
 
Half yearly Accounts for the period ended December
 
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on February 16, 2015, 05:57:59 PM

31. The Searle Company Limited
 
17.02.2015 Tuesday
 
12:00 Noon
 
Karachi
 
Half yearly Accounts for the period ended December
 

Today it showed its direction.... :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on February 16, 2015, 10:42:59 PM
What is expected of the results? How much would it affect the current price?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on February 17, 2015, 11:11:06 AM
ppl saying result is not good ?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on February 17, 2015, 11:16:46 AM
ppl saying result is not good ?

board meeting is at noon today, abhi result aya nhi hai
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on February 17, 2015, 11:22:04 AM
but khabrain yehi hain
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on February 17, 2015, 11:23:54 AM
but khabrain yehi hain

unfortunately ye khabrain kisi had tak theek hi  hain
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on February 17, 2015, 04:57:53 PM
Results:

Consolidated: HY 8.96 vs last year 5.29
Un-Consolidated: HY 7.66 vs last year 4.58

 :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on February 17, 2015, 05:06:35 PM
but khabrain yehi hain

unfortunately ye khabrain kisi had tak theek hi  hain

http://kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?0.25643368531018496&id=4&nid=062585

Alhamdullah the results are not as per rumours.... :biggthumpup:

The increase in PAT is just :tongue: 67.3%... remeber 40% bonus impact included....ab kia hoga brothers :clap1:...
 :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: meeraas on February 17, 2015, 06:03:35 PM
Hona kya hy !It will fly and rOCK iNSHALAH
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on February 17, 2015, 07:24:02 PM
Zakhan bhai, Loto bhai and NadeemKhaliq Bhai, pls. give your comments on the result.  SEARL depicted very good growth.  What price performance do you expect after this result
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on February 17, 2015, 07:49:07 PM
Zakhan bhai, Loto bhai and NadeemKhaliq Bhai, pls. give your comments on the result.  SEARL depicted very good growth.  What price performance do you expect after this result

Bhai..iss result k baad dhamal hoga insha-Allah...if you have patience then hold till Searl rent out its investment property...
Insha-Allah you will get 70-80 percent gain from current levels....
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on February 17, 2015, 08:46:22 PM
Zakhan bhai, Loto bhai and NadeemKhaliq Bhai, pls. give your comments on the result.  SEARL depicted very good growth.  What price performance do you expect after this result

Bhai..iss result k baad dhamal hoga insha-Allah...if you have patience then hold till Searl rent out its investment property...
Insha-Allah you will get 70-80 percent gain from current levels....

yesterday there were very strong rumors about bad result bcz of IBLHL bad result, but ALHAMDOLILAH all vanished...........if any body want to hold hold it till sept for good capital gain
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on February 17, 2015, 08:53:55 PM
Zakhan bhai, Loto bhai and NadeemKhaliq Bhai, pls. give your comments on the result.  SEARL depicted very good growth.  What price performance do you expect after this result
hold till Aug 15 for maximum return
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on February 17, 2015, 09:51:00 PM
Hoping for a strong CAP tomarrow  :fingerscrossed1: :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on February 17, 2015, 10:00:05 PM
Zakhan Bhai & Nadeem Bhai, I purchased SEARL for long term.  I was impressed by SEARL when I noticed SEARL yielded capital gain by more than 10 times in two years From Dec. 2012 to Dec 2014. I am curious to know about the rental income of it's investment property.  What is this? further, what is holding period to avail 70 to 80% returns ?  pls. reply thanks

BMA projected FY15 EPS 13.8 as standalone and 17.64 as consolidated.  SEARL reported first half EPS 7.66 standalone and 8.96 consolidated.  Half yearly trend shows that SEARL full year EPS will surpass BMA's prjection.. 
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on February 17, 2015, 10:44:01 PM
Loto Bhai what is your assessment about expected capital gain by holding till Sep 2015
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on February 17, 2015, 11:23:19 PM
result mkt timings main aya hai ?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on February 17, 2015, 11:36:44 PM
OH, I sooo wish I should have added more at 245  :dunno:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on February 18, 2015, 01:02:56 AM
ab sirf beth k tamasha check karo  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on February 18, 2015, 07:45:53 AM
Salam. Bhai do some research yourself also. Don't always rely on bma akd sca azee etc etc....Please read financial statements of searl. ..read the note on segments ...There you will see investment property. ..cost of 5bn. ..something but showing no income. ...its because the building was under construction. ..as soon as this building is rented out...The pat will increase InshaAllah by couple of 100 millions. ... :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: asim.786 on February 18, 2015, 08:28:25 AM
Erased
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: eerizwan on February 18, 2015, 09:04:22 AM
should i buy it at current rate its in 260-270 range? advice
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on February 18, 2015, 10:17:36 AM
Picture abhi baqi hai larkay   :bangin:
If you remember ultimate exploitation on the day of annual results and then yesterday news spread in market of bad results...
Its obvious someone big is clearly involve in it and will do whatever possible to get janta out......  :rtfm:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on February 18, 2015, 10:20:43 AM
it will easily cross 300+ INSHA ALLAH
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on February 18, 2015, 10:26:38 AM
I also suspect that BBs would like to see GP out from this scrip but patience is the key now. Keep your holdings in safe and sleep for few months.  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sumbul on February 18, 2015, 10:30:01 AM
so what is the realistic target  :skeptic:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on February 18, 2015, 10:41:37 AM
so what is the realistic target  :skeptic:

310-320
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on February 18, 2015, 11:00:50 AM
Agreed on the basis of HY EPS of 8.96..... Expected annual EPS FY15 should be around 18 therefore at average pharma sector PE with high growth prospect and expected investment property income this script should be 350+ by September 2015  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on February 18, 2015, 12:02:47 PM
Thank you Zakhan Bahi for update.. I will read the fianacial report...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on February 18, 2015, 04:15:12 PM
Not a great performance today  uuu
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on February 18, 2015, 08:10:54 PM
Patience brother patience
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on February 19, 2015, 02:28:45 PM
Socha tha kya  :bangin:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on February 19, 2015, 02:40:29 PM
SEARL has earned in first half FY15 96% of the profit what it earned for the full year FY14.  What else is required ? 
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on February 19, 2015, 02:50:36 PM
 :down:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: saadqureshi on February 19, 2015, 03:12:55 PM
drug policy k naam pe maal churaya ja raha ha. yeh pak ha yahan jo marzi plicy a jaye kbi prices kam nai ho gi
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: saadqureshi on February 19, 2015, 03:16:22 PM
volume b bht he kam ha, means 100, 200 wali awam he sale kr rai ha
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on February 19, 2015, 03:34:43 PM
Alhamdulillah added more quantities today.  :thanks: to market
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: altajjari on February 19, 2015, 03:49:04 PM
sir kya he targeet /?????????? searl
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: meeraas on February 19, 2015, 03:50:00 PM
ASSOCIATED COMPANIES OF SEARLE
IBL
International Franchises (Private) Limited
United Distributors Pakistan Limited (UDPL)
HABITT
The Citizens Foundation
Multinet Pakistan (Private) Limited
United Brands Limited
Group sees huge potential , The Company is organised into the following three operating segments:
Pharmaceutical
Consumer
Investment property
Searle will focus on the global market and will primarily focus to expand the business operation in existing,export countries while looking to penetrate into new countries as well.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on February 20, 2015, 05:46:01 PM
Bs kar do bs.....
Bs kar do bs.....
Ab bachay ki jaan lo gay kya  :bangin:

Itna bura b result nahi tha  :tongue:

 :confused1: Kuch to locha hai bai itni forced selling kar k "bhai" khariday ga kahan  :confused1:  220 :skeptic:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on February 20, 2015, 05:49:33 PM
Allah na karay 220 ho lakin just wondering k agar koi 250 per maal nikaal raha hai to khariday ga kahan  :skeptic: kyun k arround 240 to 50% discounted banta hai shayad of fair value :$:

Lets see  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on February 20, 2015, 06:35:13 PM
That's it, call me crazy but  I am buying more on Monday  :bangin:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on February 20, 2015, 06:44:09 PM
That's it, call me crazy but  I am buying more on Monday  :bangin:
better allow it to bottom properly. You can have it around 245  with some patience.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on February 20, 2015, 10:33:04 PM
lasson laga dye issney to   :rtfm:  such large dips in so low volumes  :skeptic:

Looks like I will be forced to at least double my position soon if it God forbid gets down to below 240 :(
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on February 20, 2015, 11:17:28 PM
lasson laga dye issney to   :rtfm:  such large dips in so low volumes  :skeptic:

Looks like I will be forced to at least double my position soon if it God forbid gets down to below 240 :(
Whats ur buying?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on February 20, 2015, 11:48:34 PM
lasson laga dye issney to   :rtfm:  such large dips in so low volumes  :skeptic:

Looks like I will be forced to at least double my position soon if it God forbid gets down to below 240 :(
Whats ur buying?

270  :down:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: alidxb on February 20, 2015, 11:50:47 PM
lasson laga dye issney to   :rtfm:  such large dips in so low volumes  :skeptic:

Looks like I will be forced to at least double my position soon if it God forbid gets down to below 240 :(
Whats ur buying?
Read pharma policy just approved; you will be get the reason of pressure in this sector. :thanks:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on February 20, 2015, 11:54:26 PM
lasson laga dye issney to   :rtfm:  such large dips in so low volumes  :skeptic:

Looks like I will be forced to at least double my position soon if it God forbid gets down to below 240 :(
Whats ur buying?

270  :down:
kafi upper uthaya hua hy
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on February 20, 2015, 11:59:59 PM
lasson laga dye issney to   :rtfm:  such large dips in so low volumes  :skeptic:

Looks like I will be forced to at least double my position soon if it God forbid gets down to below 240 :(
Whats ur buying?
Read pharma policy just approved; you will be get the reason of pressure in this sector. :thanks:
havent read it. Can you kindly share tge pertinent points? As far as my view is concerned, the current results would not be affected by the drug policy. Despite no price adjustment, the industry can sustain on quantum of sales growth in 2015.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on February 21, 2015, 12:09:48 AM
lasson laga dye issney to   :rtfm:  such large dips in so low volumes  :skeptic:

Looks like I will be forced to at least double my position soon if it God forbid gets down to below 240 :(
Whats ur buying?
Read pharma policy just approved; you will be get the reason of pressure in this sector. :thanks:

pharma policy is old news now..

and searle is the only share under so much pressure losing almost 12% in last 3 sessions despite a spectacular result, its at lowest PE in pharma atm even cheaper than hinoon now.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on February 21, 2015, 12:11:50 AM
lasson laga dye issney to   :rtfm:  such large dips in so low volumes  :skeptic:

Looks like I will be forced to at least double my position soon if it God forbid gets down to below 240 :(
Whats ur buying?

270  :down:
kafi upper uthaya hua hy

you are saying this because it has gone down... i bought with a target of 300-310 in mind
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: fettelx on February 21, 2015, 01:03:18 AM
lasson laga dye issney to   :rtfm:  such large dips in so low volumes  :skeptic:

Looks like I will be forced to at least double my position soon if it God forbid gets down to below 240 :(
Whats ur buying?
Read pharma policy just approved; you will be get the reason of pressure in this sector. :thanks:
havent read it. Can you kindly share tge pertinent points? As far as my view is concerned, the current results would not be affected by the drug policy. Despite no price adjustment, the industry can sustain on quantum of sales growth in 2015.
Agreed! even with the current approved policy, searl has alot of potentioal and can perform very well. i too dont understand the reason for it to do down like this.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on February 21, 2015, 02:01:05 AM
better allow it to bottom properly. You can have it around 245  with some patience.
Well, thats the plan. I have SEARL under my long term investments along with FFC and GASF. My buy is at around 218, since then it has gone to 280, back to 240 then 260 and then back a few times. I am not worried, just that I bought lower quantity than I wanted to.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on February 21, 2015, 02:17:38 AM
better allow it to bottom properly. You can have it around 245  with some patience
Well, thats the plan. I have SEARL under my long term investments along with FFC and GASF. My buy is at around 218, since then it has gone to 280, back to 240 then 260 and then back a few times. I am not worried, just that I bought lower quantity than I wanted to.

Exactly... :good
Yeh 220 jaye ..ya 240...jana is ne 400 se ooper hai..insha-Allah...
Long term holders will double in next 12 months time...Insha-Allah...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SAM71 on February 21, 2015, 07:16:06 AM
Though I am not holding searle at the moment and will wait for further correction before entry, I agree that in long run (12 months) it should trade between 350-400. It earnings have grown over the past 5 years (every year). In 2009 its full year profit was 218 million and now it stands at Rs. 770 million for 6 months. Thus the profits have sequentially increased ( in almost every quarter ) by more than 700% in last 5-6 years. This is indeed phenomenal. The ROE of the company is 45%. Gross profit margin is a huge 50%!!.  Sales have increased from 3 billion to 9 billion-300% in last 5 years. The company has consistently outperformed and will continue to do so. With its subsidiaries iblhl doing so well and the income from real estate division flowing in we can see even bigger jumps in earnings.

As regards pharma policy, the forum readers may not be able to understand the intricacies of the policy/industry just by reading the draft. With the final draft approved by the ECC, the pharma people are no more unhappy. U must have observed through newspapers that they have massively scaled down thier reservations. They cannot express their satisfaction/happiness openly as that can be exploited by Mr. Imran Khan/opposition by saying that Govt. has sold out to pharma industry. The policy draft is now to be placed before the DRAP policy board for final approval as it is the competent forum under the DRAP Act.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SAM71 on February 21, 2015, 07:36:05 AM
More on SEARL's recent performance:
In 2nd quarter 2015, its net profit jumped by 87% over its net profit last year's 2nd quarter. In first half 2015, its net profits have increased 70% YOY. Very few companies on the exchange have shown such performance. The payouts/bonuses by searle have also been very handsome/rewarding and commensurate with earning growth. Its current share capital is Rs. 613 million whereas the authorized capital has been increased to Rs. 1400 million in AGM of 2014 for the purpose of issuing more bonus shares in future.

Other being PAEL (still has a long way to go), CPPL (still has lot of juice), New Jubilee Life (already had its share of run up though the party may not be over as yet), Highnoon (still has some juice), HINO (Already had a massive run up though it may touch 1200 in few months) , ATBA (already had a massive run up), HUMNL (still has some juice),  ORIX (still has potential).
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on February 21, 2015, 10:11:12 AM
I also made a small mistake in my decision. 8.96 consolidated EPS includes around 0.9 / 0.8 paisa attributable to "non-controlling interests" so.. EPS for us basically is around 8.2... still not that bad.

btw, form where do you guys got info that it is planning to rent out its investment property?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on February 21, 2015, 01:11:49 PM
I also made a small mistake in my decision. 8.96 consolidated EPS includes around 0.9 / 0.8 paisa attributable to "non-controlling interests" so.. EPS for us basically is around 8.2... still not that bad.

btw, form where do you guys got info that it is planning to rent out its investment property?

Consolidated eps reported in result is always adj for minority interests. ie, total profit - profit attributable to minority interest divided by issued number of sahres 
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on February 21, 2015, 01:18:44 PM
I also made a small mistake in my decision. 8.96 consolidated EPS includes around 0.9 / 0.8 paisa attributable to "non-controlling interests" so.. EPS for us basically is around 8.2... still not that bad.

btw, form where do you guys got info that it is planning to rent out its investment property?

http://searlecompany.com/financials.php
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on February 21, 2015, 02:12:56 PM
I also made a small mistake in my decision. 8.96 consolidated EPS includes around 0.9 / 0.8 paisa attributable to "non-controlling interests" so.. EPS for us basically is around 8.2... still not that bad.

btw, form where do you guys got info that it is planning to rent out its investment property?

Consolidated eps reported in result is always adj for minority interests. ie, total profit - profit attributable to minority interest divided by issued number of sahres

Yes, you are right, minority interest is not included in calculation of EPS.   :thanks:

Another question:

http://www.kse.com.pk/newsattachment/062586.pdf

Consolidated EPS of prior half year is shown as 5.29... whereas last year it was 5.22 as per report of the company http://searlecompany.com/remos_downloads/1h11314.82.pdf

If it has been restated due to impact of bonus, why the word restated not used in current year result  :skeptic:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on February 21, 2015, 07:36:17 PM
Great info you all  :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on February 21, 2015, 08:41:05 PM
I also made a small mistake in my decision. 8.96 consolidated EPS includes around 0.9 / 0.8 paisa attributable to "non-controlling interests" so.. EPS for us basically is around 8.2... still not that bad.

btw, form where do you guys got info that it is planning to rent out its investment property?

Consolidated eps reported in result is always adj for minority interests. ie, total profit - profit attributable to minority interest divided by issued number of sahres

Yes, you are right, minority interest is not included in calculation of EPS.   :thanks:

Another question:

http://www.kse.com.pk/newsattachment/062586.pdf

Consolidated EPS of prior half year is shown as 5.29... whereas last year it was 5.22 as per report of the company http://searlecompany.com/remos_downloads/1h11314.82.pdf

If it has been restated due to impact of bonus, why the word restated not used in current year result  :skeptic:

previous year eps was originally at low number of shares.
This year eps is at higher number of shares (because of bonus issue )
So previous year eps has to be "restated" to adj for added number of shares so it can be compared with this years eps

Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on February 21, 2015, 09:37:52 PM
I also made a small mistake in my decision. 8.96 consolidated EPS includes around 0.9 / 0.8 paisa attributable to "non-controlling interests" so.. EPS for us basically is around 8.2... still not that bad.

btw, form where do you guys got info that it is planning to rent out its investment property?

Consolidated eps reported in result is always adj for minority interests. ie, total profit - profit attributable to minority interest divided by issued number of sahres

Yes, you are right, minority interest is not included in calculation of EPS.   :thanks:

Another question:

http://www.kse.com.pk/newsattachment/062586.pdf

Consolidated EPS of prior half year is shown as 5.29... whereas last year it was 5.22 as per report of the company http://searlecompany.com/remos_downloads/1h11314.82.pdf

If it has been restated due to impact of bonus, why the word restated not used in current year result  :skeptic:

previous year eps was originally at low number of shares.
This year eps is at higher number of shares (because of bonus issue )
So previous year eps has to be "restated" to adj for added number of shares so it can be compared with this years eps

Yes but why have they not used the word "restated" for prior year EPS, in current period result.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: alidxb on February 22, 2015, 11:46:51 AM
lasson laga dye issney to   :rtfm:  such large dips in so low volumes  :skeptic:

Looks like I will be forced to at least double my position soon if it God forbid gets down to below 240 :(
Whats ur buying?
Read pharma policy just approved; you will be get the reason of pressure in this sector. :thanks:
The sector is expected further down as said earlier.
Drug pricing: Prices of drugs would remain frozen till June 30, 2016 at current approved levels.
Thereafter, annual increase in prices of scheduled drugs shall be restricted to 50 percent of Consumer Price Index (with a cap of 4
percent) and of non?schedule drugs to 70 percent of the CPI (with a cap of 6 percent). The minister said that drugs for human use
would be divided in two categories in terms of pricing in the country. Drugs on essential medicines list, top 50 of most common use
and drugs for treatment of Cancer, TB, Hepatitis, HIV, Thalassamia and Organ Transplant, biological and new chemical entities would
be categorised as schedule drugs and rest of the drugs shall be categorised as non?schedule.For the first time a concept of price
reduction up to 30 percent on originator brands has been introduced with staggered annual reduction up to 10 percent every year if
the drugs are costlier those in India and Bangladesh. This will help reduce prices of many drugs of common use for patients in the
country.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on February 22, 2015, 03:52:21 PM
lasson laga dye issney to   :rtfm:  such large dips in so low volumes  :skeptic:

Looks like I will be forced to at least double my position soon if it God forbid gets down to below 240 :(
Whats ur buying?
Read pharma policy just approved; you will be get the reason of pressure in this sector. :thanks:
The sector is expected further down as said earlier.
Drug pricing: Prices of drugs would remain frozen till June 30, 2016 at current approved levels.
Thereafter, annual increase in prices of scheduled drugs shall be restricted to 50 percent of Consumer Price Index (with a cap of 4
percent) and of non?schedule drugs to 70 percent of the CPI (with a cap of 6 percent). The minister said that drugs for human use
would be divided in two categories in terms of pricing in the country. Drugs on essential medicines list, top 50 of most common use
and drugs for treatment of Cancer, TB, Hepatitis, HIV, Thalassamia and Organ Transplant, biological and new chemical entities would
be categorised as schedule drugs and rest of the drugs shall be categorised as non?schedule.For the first time a concept of price
reduction up to 30 percent on originator brands has been introduced with staggered annual reduction up to 10 percent every year if
the drugs are costlier those in India and Bangladesh. This will help reduce prices of many drugs of common use for patients in the
country.

Its current trading pattern is very bizarre, to say the least.

Big dips on very low volumes are not natural. Keeping in view its current earnings, growth rate over past years, and payout ratio, it is much undervalued as compared to abbot, hinoon, glaxo. who are more less stable at current rates, satta is what comes to mind..It has given 40% return over the past few months with its bonus payout and yet managed to maintain/even increase its bonus adjusted earnings

I think it will trade between 240 and 270 in the short term.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on February 23, 2015, 11:01:07 PM
lasson laga dye issney to   :rtfm:  such large dips in so low volumes  :skeptic:

Looks like I will be forced to at least double my position soon if it God forbid gets down to below 240 :(
Whats ur buying?
Read pharma policy just approved; you will be get the reason of pressure in this sector. :thanks:
The sector is expected further down as said earlier.
Drug pricing: Prices of drugs would remain frozen till June 30, 2016 at current approved levels.
Thereafter, annual increase in prices of scheduled drugs shall be restricted to 50 percent of Consumer Price Index (with a cap of 4
percent) and of non?schedule drugs to 70 percent of the CPI (with a cap of 6 percent). The minister said that drugs for human use
would be divided in two categories in terms of pricing in the country. Drugs on essential medicines list, top 50 of most common use
and drugs for treatment of Cancer, TB, Hepatitis, HIV, Thalassamia and Organ Transplant, biological and new chemical entities would
be categorised as schedule drugs and rest of the drugs shall be categorised as non?schedule.For the first time a concept of price
reduction up to 30 percent on originator brands has been introduced with staggered annual reduction up to 10 percent every year if
the drugs are costlier those in India and Bangladesh. This will help reduce prices of many drugs of common use for patients in the
country.

Its current trading pattern is very bizarre, to say the least.

Big dips on very low volumes are not natural. Keeping in view its current earnings, growth rate over past years, and payout ratio, it is much undervalued as compared to abbot, hinoon, glaxo. who are more less stable at current rates, satta is what comes to mind..It has given 40% return over the past few months with its bonus payout and yet managed to maintain/even increase its bonus adjusted earnings

I think it will trade between 240 and 270 in the short term.

http://searlecompany.com/remos_downloads/spl2q2014.86.pdf
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on February 24, 2015, 12:26:57 AM
volumes dried up . Looks like a rebound now . These rates wont last long . Must buy
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on February 24, 2015, 05:56:31 PM
volumes dried up . Looks like a rebound now . These rates wont last long . Must buy
I am aiming to buy more if it touches 240  :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on February 24, 2015, 10:10:53 PM
volumes dried up . Looks like a rebound now . These rates wont last long . Must buy
I am aiming to buy more if it touches 240  :good

agaya app ka rate
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Avi2013 on February 24, 2015, 10:28:40 PM
This is the only easy money maker share...  :tongue: :tongue:
Last 3 months se 245 se 265 tak he chaal hai iski  :D
i traded almost 10 to 12 times in it...buy at 245-247 and sell at 258-260  :thumbsup_anim:
Again i m a buyer tommorow  ;)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on February 25, 2015, 01:26:52 AM
Since when did SEARL start getting trade on future market. did anyone notice   :[ ::)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on February 25, 2015, 09:08:22 AM
Since when did SEARL start getting trade on future market. did anyone notice   :[ ::)
ab iss ka lambay walay jump finish.....due to fututre trading :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on February 25, 2015, 10:34:04 AM
Since when did SEARL start getting trade on future market. did anyone notice   :[ ::)
ab iss ka lambay walay jump finish.....due to fututre trading :biggthumpup:

Laooo Searle 300 ka

aalam sb nay yeh bhi short kar dia hai
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on February 25, 2015, 02:43:37 PM
Since when did SEARL start getting trade on future market. did anyone notice   :[ ::)
ab iss ka lambay walay jump finish.....due to fututre trading :biggthumpup:

Laooo Searle 300 ka

aalam sb nay yeh bhi short kar dia hai
ha ha ha ha...gr8
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on February 25, 2015, 08:43:47 PM
Good buy in between 235-240
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: M Obaid Khan on February 25, 2015, 10:18:51 PM
Good buy in between 235-240

You Rite but itne ka mily ga nhi "Searl" mil jay tou maza ajaye ga  :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on March 02, 2015, 03:05:03 PM
Bs kar do bs.....
Bs kar do bs.....
Ab bachay ki jaan lo gay kya  :bangin:

Itna bura b result nahi tha  :tongue:

 :confused1: Kuch to locha hai bai itni forced selling kar k "bhai" khariday ga kahan  :confused1:  220 :skeptic:

 :rtfm: Lakin KYUNNNNNN  :dunno:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: M Obaid Khan on March 02, 2015, 03:14:40 PM
Laylo Laylo Laylo sab kuch laylo  :good :good :good :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on March 02, 2015, 03:34:50 PM
Alhamdulillah added more quantities at lower lock
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on March 02, 2015, 03:43:48 PM
Since when did SEARL start getting trade on future market. did anyone notice   :[ ::)
ab iss ka lambay walay jump finish.....due to fututre trading :biggthumpup:

Laooo Searle 300 ka

aalam sb nay yeh bhi short kar dia hai
:dunno:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on March 02, 2015, 04:27:42 PM
Since when did SEARL start getting trade on future market. did anyone notice   :[ ::)
ab iss ka lambay walay jump finish.....due to fututre trading :biggthumpup:

Laooo Searle 300 ka

aalam sb nay yeh bhi short kar dia hai
:dunno:

it was contingent upon u shorting it

aalam bhai short kar daitay humara bhala ho jata  :down:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 02, 2015, 05:10:35 PM
Just woke up  :crying_anim02: Will add more qty tomorrow, this is the quantity I never intended to add :bangin:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: stocks4u on March 03, 2015, 12:17:52 AM
Dear Seniors - Guidance on SEARL will be appreciated. After watching correction post result and looking at fundamentals, it is hard to understand the performance. Where is the selling coming from and where can we can see prices bottoming out. Do you believe there is any upside left or is the pharma sector's charm finished after pricing policy release.

Your Guidance is appreciated.

Jazakallah!
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on March 03, 2015, 12:30:07 AM
Dear Seniors - Guidance on SEARL will be appreciated. After watching correction post result and looking at fundamentals, it is hard to understand the performance. Where is the selling coming from and where can we can see prices bottoming out. Do you believe there is any upside left or is the pharma sector's charm finished after pricing policy release.

Your Guidance is appreciated.

Jazakallah!

Keep on buying . Fundamentals shall prevail ! Stick on them
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on March 03, 2015, 08:45:41 AM
Dear Seniors - Guidance on SEARL will be appreciated. After watching correction post result and looking at fundamentals, it is hard to understand the performance. Where is the selling coming from and where can we can see prices bottoming out. Do you believe there is any upside left or is the pharma sector's charm finished after pricing policy release.

Your Guidance is appreciated.

Jazakallah!

Keep on buying . Fundamentals shall prevail ! Stick on them

Salam Brother...please review the results of pharma companies..they are all going UP and UP....further from next year the prices will start to increase as a percentage to increase in CPI...and all new medicines will be priced in a better way...don't just look at the policies..as the results are realities achieved..whereas policies are aspirations/dreams/wishes (in Pakistan) because they are never implemented with sincerity.... To me it is a buying time in Pharma...
JazakAllah...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: stocks4u on March 03, 2015, 12:39:06 PM
Thank you brothers for your guidance. I read on this blog about the investment property. Assuming it is PKR 5bn property, what would be a good estimate of rental income per year based on standard real estate returns?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: invincible on March 03, 2015, 03:32:51 PM
What should be rate for fresh entry?

Regards
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on March 03, 2015, 04:01:27 PM
What should be rate for fresh entry?

Regards


Current rates are very good as nobody thought that it would take such a long and big dip.

Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on March 03, 2015, 04:10:00 PM
Added today at 233.  Zakhan sab where do you see the price by July 2015 ?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on March 03, 2015, 07:18:38 PM
Added today at 233.  Zakhan sab where do you see the price by July 2015 ?

Salam, brother I am insha-Allah holding this stock till it rent out its 'investment property'. At that time it will take upper locks...insha-Allah...
The property cost is around 2.5 billion. I am sure the fair value at current market prices will be higher than cost.
Also if we assume the rental yield of 7 percent the impact will be at least 175 million to the bottom line. The EPS impact should be more than PKR 2/-

Further the subsidiaries have already started paying hefty dividends...so the complete picture will available after year end i.e. June '15 accounts...
JazakAllah..
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on March 04, 2015, 12:47:46 AM
Thanks for your comments
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sst569 on March 04, 2015, 03:18:57 AM
Added today at 233.  Zakhan sab where do you see the price by July 2015 ?

Salam, brother I am insha-Allah holding this stock till it rent out its 'investment property'. At that time it will take upper locks...insha-Allah...
The property cost is around 2.5 billion. I am sure the fair value at current market prices will be higher than cost.
Also if we assume the rental yield of 7 percent the impact will be at least 175 million to the bottom line. The EPS impact should be more than PKR 2/-

Further the subsidiaries have already started paying hefty dividends...so the complete picture will available after year end i.e. June '15 accounts...
JazakAllah..

Dear Zakhan what is that property?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on March 04, 2015, 03:33:14 AM
http://searlecompany.com/remos_downloads/spl2q2014.86.pdf
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on March 04, 2015, 11:25:45 AM
page 14

segment reporting Searle has an investment property worth 2.5BN

but they are not generating any revenue from it

even if these idle assets generate a return of 7 % it would add 175m in revenues

so wonder what are they doing with these rental premisis
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on March 04, 2015, 02:38:42 PM
This investment property is reported as Capital Work in Propgress and balance is increasing every quarter, means money is being spent on the property is under construction.  But it is not clear as to:

-What is this property?  is it a commercial buliding, hotel, hospital or what?
-What is the time frame for the completion and start of income to company?
- The amount company expect as rental income and impact of EPS...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SAM71 on March 04, 2015, 04:28:00 PM
I think the property is located on Shaha-e-Faisal (1-2 km ahead of nursery) and houses habitt store.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on March 04, 2015, 04:50:53 PM
I think the property is located on Shaha-e-Faisal (1-2 km ahead of nursery) and houses habitt store.

I thought the same
Its called the IBL Building & it opened a couple of months ago
But still searle is not book any revenue from it so maybe its some other place ?
(http://www.awamiweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/habitt_store.jpg)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on March 04, 2015, 06:15:52 PM
Thanks for uploading the pic.  But if Searle group uses this building for their own offices and showrooms then it is not an earning asset.  There must be some peoperties like Mansha group is constructing "Nishat Hotels and Properties" in Jauhar Town Lahore...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on March 04, 2015, 06:29:33 PM
Thanks for uploading the pic.  But if Searle group uses this building for their own offices and showrooms then it is not an earning asset.  There must be some peoperties like Mansha group is constructing "Nishat Hotels and Properties" in Jauhar Town Lahore...

Investment property is by definition for rental income purposes.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on March 04, 2015, 06:59:55 PM
Thanks for uploading the pic.  But if Searle group uses this building for their own offices and showrooms then it is not an earning asset.  There must be some peoperties like Mansha group is constructing "Nishat Hotels and Properties" in Jauhar Town Lahore...


Why the f**k not ?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hammad01 on March 04, 2015, 07:31:53 PM
Thanks for uploading the pic.  But if Searle group uses this building for their own offices and showrooms then it is not an earning asset.  There must be some peoperties like Mansha group is constructing "Nishat Hotels and Properties" in Jauhar Town Lahore...


Why the f**k not ?

Lagta ha aj kal sbm bro bara gussa ma han. It is my assessment based on his replies for the last one month. SBM bro dont worry mana parchi bhaj di ha banks ko now they will run like .......
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on March 04, 2015, 07:36:45 PM
Yes investment is meant for revenue...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on March 04, 2015, 08:40:10 PM
Thanks for uploading the pic.  But if Searle group uses this building for their own offices and showrooms then it is not an earning asset.  There must be some peoperties like Mansha group is constructing "Nishat Hotels and Properties" in Jauhar Town Lahore...

Investment property is by definition for rental income purposes.

Also includes property held for capital appreciation.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on March 04, 2015, 11:49:31 PM
agar yeh property owner occupied hoti tou it would never had been classifed as investment property in the first phase

2.5Bn is the revalued amount as of this reporting date wonder how much is land portion in this and building portion

it might be noted that investment can be held at cost so it does not need to be revalued at every reporting date

ch hai Searle walay koi disclosure hee day daitay
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Sharoze123 on March 05, 2015, 12:23:27 AM
agar yeh property owner occupied hoti tou it would never had been classifed as investment property in the first phase

2.5Bn is the revalued amount as of this reporting date wonder how much is land portion in this and building portion

it might be noted that investment can be held at cost so it does not need to be revalued at every reporting date

ch hai Searle walay koi disclosure hee day daitay

Nope, can't be held on cost. Only one model will be applied for the entire Investment Portfolio.  It will be revalued at each reporting date unless strong indication of no change.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sst569 on March 05, 2015, 01:21:54 AM
So still not clear regarding the property. Thanks all for the input.
Does it seems to take further dip? What are your views friends?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aim2b1 on March 05, 2015, 02:46:50 AM
Well The picture shown is held by the Searle company and its IBL Building Center, Searle has started renting it, and its on rent basis not ownership... so the property eventually stays with Searle... i personally know people who have booked showrooms in it, i only know about this property if there's any other one and i got any info i would reveal inshaAllah...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on March 05, 2015, 08:45:54 AM
agar yeh property owner occupied hoti tou it would never had been classifed as investment property in the first phase

2.5Bn is the revalued amount as of this reporting date wonder how much is land portion in this and building portion

it might be noted that investment can be held at cost so it does not need to be revalued at every reporting date

ch hai Searle walay koi disclosure hee day daitay

Nope, can't be held on cost. Only one model will be applied for the entire Investment Portfolio.  It will be revalued at each reporting date unless strong indication of no change.

Investment property can be held at cost

It is not mandatory to revalue it, if company decides to adopt this model
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: fettelx on March 05, 2015, 11:39:09 AM
agar yeh property owner occupied hoti tou it would never had been classifed as investment property in the first phase

2.5Bn is the revalued amount as of this reporting date wonder how much is land portion in this and building portion

it might be noted that investment can be held at cost so it does not need to be revalued at every reporting date

ch hai Searle walay koi disclosure hee day daitay
It will be applied as one time cost specially in matter of land/building and than revalued on every reporting.

Nope, can't be held on cost. Only one model will be applied for the entire Investment Portfolio.  It will be revalued at each reporting date unless strong indication of no change.

Investment property can be held at cost

It is not mandatory to revalue it, if company decides to adopt this model
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Sharoze123 on March 05, 2015, 11:51:17 AM
agar yeh property owner occupied hoti tou it would never had been classifed as investment property in the first phase

2.5Bn is the revalued amount as of this reporting date wonder how much is land portion in this and building portion

it might be noted that investment can be held at cost so it does not need to be revalued at every reporting date

ch hai Searle walay koi disclosure hee day daitay

Nope, can't be held on cost. Only one model will be applied for the entire Investment Portfolio.  It will be revalued at each reporting date unless strong indication of no change.

Investment property can be held at cost

It is not mandatory to revalue it, if company decides to adopt this model

Read what I said again, I never said property can't be held in cost. Only that one model, either fair value or cost, can be applied to the entirety of the investment portfolio unless market value for an individual item cannot be found in which case the default is cost.

Khair, why even discuss the entire IAS. Since clearly searle holds the land at cost as at the last annual report.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 05, 2015, 06:53:25 PM
I have locked my buying today, no more buying or selling for the next 6 months.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on March 05, 2015, 08:10:32 PM
4.7 Investment property
The Company carries investment properties at their respective costs under the cost model in accordance
with IAS 40 - Investment Property. The fair values are determined by the independent valuation experts
and such valuations are carried out every year to determine the recoverable amount.
Building classified under investment property is carried at its respective cost less accumulated
depreciation and accumulated impairment losses if any.
Leasehold land classified under investment properties is carried at its respective cost less accumulated
impairment losses if any.
The Company carries investment property under work in progress at their respective costs less
accumulated impairment losses if any. Depreciation is charged on such property after it is completed as
per IAS 40 - Investment Property.

Extracted from annual report 2013-14.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on March 05, 2015, 08:11:23 PM
I have locked my buying today, no more buying or selling for the next 6 months.

 :good :good
Same here brother...Insha-Allah will earn good profits
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: altajjari on March 07, 2015, 03:57:14 PM
 sir kya eps expaxtid he srvi ke ur targeet ????????????????  .....
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: altajjari on March 07, 2015, 05:23:18 PM
 sir kyai   searl ka ab   targeet ????????????????  .....
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on March 08, 2015, 12:17:27 AM

Nope, can't be held on cost. Only one model will be applied for the entire Investment Portfolio.  It will be revalued at each reporting date unless strong indication of no change.

4.7 Investment property
The Company carries investment properties at their respective costs under the cost model in accordance
with IAS 40 - Investment Property.

Building classified under investment property is carried at its respective cost less accumulated
depreciation and accumulated impairment losses if any
.

Leasehold land classified under investment properties is carried at its respective cost less accumulated
impairment losses if any.

The Company carries investment property under work in progress at their respective costs less
accumulated impairment losses if any. Depreciation is charged on such property after it is completed as
per IAS 40 - Investment Property.

Extracted from annual report 2013-14.


 :$:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Sharoze123 on March 08, 2015, 12:54:32 AM
agar yeh property owner occupied hoti tou it would never had been classifed as investment property in the first phase

2.5Bn is the revalued amount as of this reporting date wonder how much is land portion in this and building portion

it might be noted that investment can be held at cost so it does not need to be revalued at every reporting date

ch hai Searle walay koi disclosure hee day daitay

agar yeh property owner occupied hoti tou it would never had been classifed as investment property in the first phase


ch hai Searle walay koi disclosure hee day daitay
2.5Bn is the revalued amount as of this reporting date wonder how much is land portion in this and building portion

it might be noted that investment can be held at cost so it does not need to be revalued at every reporting date

Nope, can't be held on cost. Only one model will be applied for the entire Investment Portfolio.  It will be revalued at each reporting date unless strong indication of no change.

Investment property can be held at cost

It is not mandatory to revalue it, if company decides to adopt this model

Read what I said again, I never said property can't be held in cost. Only that one model, either fair value or cost, can be applied to the entirety of the investment portfolio unless market value for an individual item cannot be found in which case the default is cost.

Khair, why even discuss the entire IAS. Since clearly searle holds the land at cost as at the last annual report.

Bhai why are you dragging this out.

You claimed that the Land and Building were held at revalued amount of rupees 2.5Bn and then go on to claim that it would not have to be revalued at every reporting date because it could also be held in cost.

I corrected you that only one model can be applied to the entire portfolio. Ye khuli marzi nahi hai keh Jab dil karay revalue karlo aur jab dil karay cost karlo. And anyways your claim about the 2.5Bn being the revalued amount is wrong, I've already said that in Searle the Land and Building is held SOLELY on cost model. Only one model is applicable, not both simultaneously :/
I think mis-understanding hogayi hai on both sides each of us taking the others meaning differently.
In any case this is not even that important, Lol.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: stocks4u on March 09, 2015, 11:16:20 AM
Sirs.. Is there a revised TP for Searle that you could share?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on March 09, 2015, 02:33:13 PM
 :fingerscrossed1:

so jaoo it is gonnaremain stagnant for a month atleast
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on March 09, 2015, 07:08:14 PM
:fingerscrossed1:

so jaoo it is gonnaremain stagnant for a month atleast

My expectation is by mid march...it should start to move up... :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on March 09, 2015, 09:41:54 PM
Below 230 is good buying oppurtunity
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on March 10, 2015, 01:48:26 PM
Bs kar do bs.....
Bs kar do bs.....
Ab bachay ki jaan lo gay kya  :bangin:

Itna bura b result nahi tha  :tongue:

 :confused1: Kuch to locha hai bai itni forced selling kar k "bhai" khariday ga kahan  :confused1:  220 :skeptic:

 :rtfm: Lakin KYUNNNNNN  :dunno:

Should I start Buying now??? :confused1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Sherlock Holmes on March 10, 2015, 02:35:39 PM
I ll buy searl around 210 ............
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 10, 2015, 03:04:05 PM
What the F happened today!!! :crying_anim02:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 10, 2015, 05:23:44 PM
Does anyone have a suggestion what to do at this point?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sumbul on March 10, 2015, 05:24:55 PM
Does anyone have a suggestion what to do at this point?

Wait for good times  ::)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on March 10, 2015, 05:34:10 PM
maar daala issne to, I am stuck big time, but I sure as hell am not averaging even though I am 50% on cash, better be buying into cements or some other shares which have become cheap..
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on March 10, 2015, 07:12:53 PM
maar daala issne to, I am stuck big time, but I sure as hell am not averaging even though I am 50% on cash, better be buying into cements or some other shares which have become cheap..

Keep buying......Rest assured the company is not going to shut down!!

Remember what Buffett has to say on this..."Unless you can watch your stock holding decline by 50% without becoming panic-stricken, you should not be in the stock market.”
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on March 10, 2015, 08:46:48 PM
Oil and Gas wala haaal na hojaye pharma ka... balkey horaha hai already  :rtfm:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sst569 on March 10, 2015, 08:49:07 PM
What is the reason of bad performance today?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on March 10, 2015, 09:24:14 PM
What is the reason of bad performance today?

There was no trigger for good performance, so it performed bad. ooper say market ka sogh bhi lag gya
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on March 10, 2015, 09:25:58 PM
maar daala issne to, I am stuck big time, but I sure as hell am not averaging even though I am 50% on cash, better be buying into cements or some other shares which have become cheap..

Keep buying......Rest assured the company is not going to shut down!!

Remember what Buffett has to say on this..."Unless you can watch your stock holding decline by 50% without becoming panic-stricken, you should not be in the stock market.”

Gandu Warren Buffet kay pass 50Bn hai

humain tou lasson lag gaye
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on March 10, 2015, 09:26:49 PM
maar daala issne to, I am stuck big time, but I sure as hell am not averaging even though I am 50% on cash, better be buying into cements or some other shares which have become cheap..

Keep buying......Rest assured the company is not going to shut down!!

Remember what Buffett has to say on this..."Unless you can watch your stock holding decline by 50% without becoming panic-stricken, you should not be in the stock market.”

Buffett paa ji ki baat to samajh aati hai lakin without any reason fundamentally or technically maar ki waja nahi samajh aati  :dunno:
Waffet
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on March 10, 2015, 09:50:48 PM
maar daala issne to, I am stuck big time, but I sure as hell am not averaging even though I am 50% on cash, better be buying into cements or some other shares which have become cheap..

Keep buying......Rest assured the company is not going to shut down!!

Remember what Buffett has to say on this..."Unless you can watch your stock holding decline by 50% without becoming panic-stricken, you should not be in the stock market.”

Gandu Warren Buffet kay pass 50Bn hai

humain tou lasson lag gaye

 :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 10, 2015, 10:10:54 PM
Buhat buri pitai hoi ha yaar, buhat buri  :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sst569 on March 10, 2015, 10:18:07 PM
There is a news in express that some companies stole tax. Maybe thats the reason for todays Maar.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tariqkse2015 on March 10, 2015, 11:01:40 PM
Berkshire Hathaway price of 140000 $ came once to 75000$ still warren buffet was alive
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sst569 on March 10, 2015, 11:36:29 PM
If market support tomorrow, hopefully it also moves up?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on March 11, 2015, 12:04:47 AM
maar daala issne to, I am stuck big time, but I sure as hell am not averaging even though I am 50% on cash, better be buying into cements or some other shares which have become cheap..

Keep buying......Rest assured the company is not going to shut down!!

Remember what Buffett has to say on this..."Unless you can watch your stock holding decline by 50% without becoming panic-stricken, you should not be in the stock market.”

Gandu Warren Buffet kay pass 50Bn hai

humain tou lasson lag gaye

Agar dil badaa nahee hai tho you should not be in risky assets!! There are many stocks which have declined without a reason!!!
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Sharoze123 on March 11, 2015, 12:07:15 AM
maar daala issne to, I am stuck big time, but I sure as hell am not averaging even though I am 50% on cash, better be buying into cements or some other shares which have become cheap..

Keep buying......Rest assured the company is not going to shut down!!

Remember what Buffett has to say on this..."Unless you can watch your stock holding decline by 50% without becoming panic-stricken, you should not be in the stock market.”

Gandu Warren Buffet kay pass 50Bn hai

humain tou lasson lag gaye


Hahahahahahahhahahahahaha

Bond bhai you have made my day with that comment :D
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Nasirkhan88 on March 11, 2015, 12:09:11 AM
kal market k lyee important support level .. lets c. searl to support tor chuka hai alreasy
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 11, 2015, 12:26:43 AM
There is a news in express that some companies stole tax. Maybe thats the reason for todays Maar.
Wait what? Any news links?

kal market k lyee important support level .. lets c. searl to support tor chuka hai alreasy
What's the next support for SEARL?

Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on March 11, 2015, 12:35:15 AM
Searl main kya sale lage hue hai . Laao bhae..detay jao jitna dena hai  :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sst569 on March 11, 2015, 12:44:31 AM
There is a news in express that some companies stole tax. Maybe thats the reason for todays Maar.
Wait what? Any news links?

kal market k lyee important support level .. lets c. searl to support tor chuka hai alreasy
What's the next support for SEARL?
http://www.express.pk/business/
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Nasirkhan88 on March 11, 2015, 12:57:46 AM
There is a news in express that some companies stole tax. Maybe thats the reason for todays Maar.
Wait what? Any news links?

kal market k lyee important support level .. lets c. searl to support tor chuka hai alreasy
What's the next support for SEARL?

lets c tomorrow .. mkt is at support .. jscl is at support .. 231 was searl support .. broken.  a trend line support is placed around 217 but I am not seeing it honored d way it is slipping.  194 is a good retracement level. But after freezing prices decided charm in pharma is almost diminished. lets c now tomorrow ..
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: stocks4u on March 11, 2015, 05:41:41 PM
Looks like even though market stabilized today, SEARL is unable to find a floor. :skeptic:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 11, 2015, 05:45:07 PM
Looks like even though market stabilized today, SEARL is unable to find a floor. :skeptic:
It looks like it can go down a little more  :mad:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on March 11, 2015, 06:06:01 PM
Looks like even though market stabilized today, SEARL is unable to find a floor. :skeptic:
It looks like it can go down a little more  :mad:

I think its a bottom now, just when everyone thinks its going to go further down, its gonna go up.. INSHA ALLAH
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on March 11, 2015, 06:07:25 PM
Searle 200 % retracement is complete I think we should see some reversal from these levels

next support is 180
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on March 11, 2015, 06:52:37 PM
Heavy selling pressure seen even when market recovered can't understand 210.40 strong support level if breaks then wait for fresh buying
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on March 11, 2015, 07:08:32 PM
Heavy selling pressure seen even when market recovered can't understand 210.40 strong support level if breaks then wait for fresh buying

Hahahaha!! Amazing technical analysis....Even a PANWALA knows that the stock will get support some day!!! No utility of technical analysis in searl!! The stock will move on its will :laugh:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on March 11, 2015, 07:15:00 PM
Looks like it will get support only after its 3rd qtr result   :crying_anim02:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: alidxb on March 11, 2015, 07:22:50 PM
Pls. read my comments on pharma; you will understand; hmm.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Nasirkhan88 on March 11, 2015, 07:24:44 PM
apne muu miaaa mittoo :o
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on March 11, 2015, 07:27:28 PM
Pls. read my comments on pharma; you will understand; hmm.

Let us talk after 6-8 months. U will understand what the hell u missed!!
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: alidxb on March 11, 2015, 08:15:19 PM
Pls. read my comments on pharma; you will understand; hmm.

Let us talk after 6-8 months. U will understand what the hell u missed!!
Missing out the hell  is quite good always.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on March 11, 2015, 08:38:40 PM
Pls. read my comments on pharma; you will understand; hmm.

Let us talk after 6-8 months. U will understand what the hell u missed!!
Missing out the hell  is quite good always.

Now I got a hint about your understanding! huhu
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 11, 2015, 10:25:33 PM
Wait. What, What did I not read?  :confused1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sst569 on March 11, 2015, 11:14:08 PM
Hopefully its green tomorrow. Dont get panic!
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: alidxb on March 11, 2015, 11:19:18 PM
apne muu miaaa mittoo :o
Your comments are an asset!!
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on March 12, 2015, 09:54:59 AM

SHC suspends freeze on drug prices by DRAP on industry’s appeal

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/sindh/12-Mar-2015/shc-suspends-freeze-on-drug-prices-by-drap-on-industry-s-appeal

Laao Pharmaa!!
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: stocks4u on March 12, 2015, 02:10:25 PM
News is definitely positive but share price appears to be holding its ground. hmmm
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: saadqureshi on March 12, 2015, 02:18:53 PM
somewhat positive that's why pharmas are green despite red market. However real treat would be SHC dismissing the whole pricing mechanism  ;)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on March 12, 2015, 03:09:47 PM
Since when did SEARL start getting trade on future market. did anyone notice   :[ ::)
ab iss ka lambay walay jump finish.....due to fututre trading :biggthumpup:
:D
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 12, 2015, 03:43:57 PM
Bad closing today, I think?  huhu huhu huhu
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: stocks4u on March 12, 2015, 04:03:25 PM
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/oil-prices-positive-catalyst-selected-frontier-hedi-ben-mlouka?trk=object-title

SEARL is mentioned as a pick in this article. Looks like foreign funds are eyeing the stock as well.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sst569 on March 12, 2015, 09:35:04 PM
Hopefully its green tomorrow. Dont get panic!

Looks this is bottom of pharma sector, so be positive. InshAllah now upside movement.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Arif Nadeem on March 12, 2015, 09:46:52 PM
Inquiries by SECP against brokers dropped.Ishaq Dar intervened.Market to take positive.Searl will rock too.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 12, 2015, 09:53:29 PM
PANIC is what I will be in if it takes a further dip tomorrow, I have already added almost 50% more  :confused1: than I wanted.  :crying_anim02:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 12, 2015, 09:55:39 PM
Looks this is bottom of pharma sector, so be positive. InshAllah now upside movement.
:fingerscrossed1: :fingerscrossed1: :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on March 12, 2015, 10:59:40 PM
PANIC is what I will be in if it takes a further dip tomorrow, I have already added almost 50% more  :confused1: than I wanted.  :crying_anim02:

Either there is something fundamentally wrong with this company or either with you  :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: saadqureshi on March 12, 2015, 11:42:12 PM
there is nothing wrong, first of all whole pharma sector is in pressure after the new policy and secondly there is no interest by big players for the time being
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on March 13, 2015, 12:11:01 AM
accumulating ... accumulating ... accumulating . . . :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on March 13, 2015, 10:04:35 AM
accumulating ... accumulating ... accumulating . . . :biggthumpup:

is rate per bhi itni selling kon kar rha hai... samjh say bahar hai  :rtfm: k
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 13, 2015, 10:32:43 AM
Lts it cap!!!  :console:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on March 13, 2015, 11:27:00 AM
Salam Bhai loog...there was issue with respect to insider trading and SECP, Brokers and other governmental institutions were at a row...
this issue seems resolved now...so insha-Allah this negative market trend will reverse...
JazakAllah khair...

Note: This issue happened when KASB Bank and Brokerage were having some trouble...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sst569 on March 13, 2015, 04:17:59 PM
Lao wahen pe jahan se dropmshuru hua tha! Short term 240-250.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 13, 2015, 06:08:16 PM
Shukar ha  ::)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on March 14, 2015, 05:46:58 PM
Looks 240+ next week
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sst569 on March 14, 2015, 11:19:48 PM
Looks 240+ next week

Hope so inshAllah, very strong pull up should be observed!
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on March 14, 2015, 11:40:29 PM
ya Allah ooper lejao issko koi, mera loss to kam ho  :crying_anim02:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sst569 on March 15, 2015, 01:43:01 AM
ya Allah ooper lejao issko koi, mera loss to kam ho  :crying_anim02:

As per industry p/ e ratios it should trade above 400. Please comment seniors?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 16, 2015, 01:42:18 PM
Finally its has started to move up right.  :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on March 17, 2015, 04:51:49 PM
is rally main kahan taak ja sakta hai
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on March 17, 2015, 07:36:55 PM
For such a long time I have been observing that SEARLE is always priced higher than HINOON but this has finally changed today....
So Insha-Allah it will move up from here...further...but market has faced few negative events...such as insider trading issue...minimum capital for brokers compliance...Karachi situation due to MQM...etc etc...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on March 17, 2015, 11:23:07 PM
http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Tearsheets/Forecasts?s=SEARL:KAR
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on March 17, 2015, 11:29:48 PM
is rally main kahan taak ja sakta hai

290+ till next quarter . InshaaAllah :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: umarm on March 18, 2015, 12:41:25 AM
For such a long time I have been observing that SEARLE is always priced higher than HINOON but this has finally changed today....
So Insha-Allah it will move up from here...further...but market has faced few negative events...such as insider trading issue...minimum capital for brokers compliance...Karachi situation due to MQM...etc etc...


Do remember that few months ago searle gave 40 percent bonus and it also effects prices of shares.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on March 18, 2015, 11:20:48 AM
ajj bhi down
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on March 18, 2015, 12:00:04 PM
ajj bhi down

 :mad:

apko sirf yeh down nazar araha hai poori market mein ?  uuu
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 18, 2015, 04:25:08 PM
One step forward, two steps back  huhu
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on March 18, 2015, 04:59:28 PM
One step forward, two steps back  huhu

Salam BlueClub...don't be frustrated..the market has come down from 35000 to 31500...in a very short period...due to this negativity it is all happening and recovery could take few months...so be patient...Insha-Allah we will get good returns...All that is happening in the market is unusual....to me at least..
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on March 19, 2015, 10:41:08 AM
any prospects of recovery for searl mar
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on March 19, 2015, 11:49:46 AM
Be confident.. it is a hih growth stock trading at just 10X forward P/E FY16.  So cheap considering it is a Pharma stock
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Alpha on March 19, 2015, 10:17:18 PM
Be confident.. it is a hih growth stock trading at just 10X forward P/E FY16.  So cheap considering it is a Pharma stock

 :bigeyed:  :bigeyed: :bigeyed:

Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on March 20, 2015, 12:26:03 AM
Now the market will take some time to rebound perhaps May/June...but just be patient...InshaAllah..it will recover...and SEARLE will prove its worth...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 20, 2015, 12:50:49 AM
Everyday I feel like I should not open the terminal or check prices, but something tell me to do it, and I end up regretting it.  huhu
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: farhan on March 20, 2015, 04:35:53 PM
Everyday I feel like I should not open the terminal or check prices, but something tell me to do it, and I end up regretting it.  huhu

What is wrong today??  :confused1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 20, 2015, 05:02:16 PM
What is wrong today??  :confused1:
I wrote that message at 1AM :)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 25, 2015, 12:27:11 PM
Nazar hi lag gai is ko to :(
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on March 25, 2015, 12:54:48 PM
Nazar hi lag gai is ko to :(
Isko nahi pori market ko
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 27, 2015, 09:56:37 PM
Ab to buhat ho gaya yaar.  huhu

I will keep holding it though, but will sell a small chunk to invest in GASF.  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on March 27, 2015, 10:07:15 PM
Ab to buhat ho gaya yaar.  huhu

I will keep holding it though, but will sell a small chunk to invest in GASF.  :fingerscrossed1:

i think stick to this
gasf nay kia karna hai bear market mein ...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Avi2013 on March 27, 2015, 10:30:09 PM
Ab to buhat ho gaya yaar.  huhu

I will keep holding it though, but will sell a small chunk to invest in GASF.  :fingerscrossed1:

i think stick to this
gasf nay kia karna hai bear market mein ...

lol
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on March 27, 2015, 10:53:17 PM
asses up and ramming deep
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on March 30, 2015, 10:37:08 AM
Sold everything today   :dunno: :crying_anim02:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on March 30, 2015, 10:51:00 AM
Sold everything today   :dunno: :crying_anim02:

good work, INSHALLAH 170 kay qareeb mil jaye ga
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on March 30, 2015, 06:53:48 PM
Sold everything today   :dunno: :crying_anim02:

good work, INSHALLAH 170 kay qareeb mil jaye ga

Bhai..market dekh k ghabrahat tou ho ge...par bhagney ka nahi..Insha-Allah...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on March 30, 2015, 10:32:39 PM
warh gaye searl nay lay lee
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on April 01, 2015, 10:51:39 AM
Any issue with SEARL???  :confused1: Yesterday recovery was too slow as compared to other Pharma and today also phans phans k chal raha hai  :skeptic:

Entry banti hai loss recovery k liay ya koi issue hai?? Earlier 226 ki buying sold at 211 on big red day :down:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on April 01, 2015, 01:32:09 PM
Any issue with SEARL???  :confused1: Yesterday recovery was too slow as compared to other Pharma and today also phans phans k chal raha hai  :skeptic:

Entry banti hai loss recovery k liay ya koi issue hai?? Earlier 226 ki buying sold at 211 on big red day :down:

kardiya cap.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on April 01, 2015, 02:04:27 PM
kardiya cap.

Did entered with some quantity lakin Lock ka Maza nahi aya  :$:
Dil Mange Solid Lock  :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: M Obaid Khan on April 01, 2015, 03:04:18 PM
Plz Holding & Buy Inshallah 300+ ho ga.......  :good :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 04, 2015, 05:52:18 PM
Remarkable performance from 170 to 220+ in no time
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SAM71 on April 04, 2015, 06:47:48 PM
Rs. 194 to 235+
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 05, 2015, 05:14:54 PM
Typing mistske
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Rayhan150 on April 08, 2015, 01:10:58 AM
Please advise me why Searl is not moving up.. something to do with Pharma in general or with Searl. At 244 faced resistance n starts pulling back, where i thought now it would pull up from there.. Seniors please advise... been a while no serious movement in searl upwards
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on April 08, 2015, 01:16:39 AM
Please advise me why Searl is not moving up.. something to do with Pharma in general or with Searl. At 244 faced resistance n starts pulling back, where i thought now it would pull up from there.. Seniors please advise... been a while no serious movement in searl upwards

Keep calm ! Hold searl and reap the rewards . Please dont get bluffed by price movement !
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on April 08, 2015, 03:50:43 PM
Salam
Bhai just leave Searle alone for few more weeks.
After 3Q results it will InshaAllah start to move up.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Rayhan150 on April 08, 2015, 06:20:06 PM
 :thanks:, though i agree 3rd Quarter results hopefully will push it further up which is coming last week of this month. In general market might would show positive signs too as most of the companies will be boosting results in third - fourth Week of this month.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Arif Nadeem on April 09, 2015, 11:34:25 AM
One of the Directors bought 140000/ shares of searl.A good result is likely.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Rayhan150 on April 09, 2015, 12:52:05 PM
One of the Directors bought 140000/ shares of searl.A good result is likely.

Lets hope, though not sure if that leads to this assumption... I am holding a huge quantity and have high hopes on Searle. Though lately it is giving me  :bangin: ...

:)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on April 09, 2015, 06:21:00 PM
InnAllaha Ma Assabireen....
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Rayhan150 on April 10, 2015, 12:11:35 PM
at last some movement  :clap1: :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Rayhan150 on April 12, 2015, 02:24:15 PM
guys, when is 3rd QTR results (BM) date?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on April 12, 2015, 04:49:03 PM
April 15
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SAM71 on April 12, 2015, 05:28:34 PM
Searle BM date not announced as yet.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Rayhan150 on April 12, 2015, 07:11:07 PM
April 15

Are you sure about the BM Date?
Regards
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on April 13, 2015, 03:10:55 AM
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102790569&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20150413
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Rayhan150 on April 13, 2015, 10:51:26 AM
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102790569&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20150413

Is it a Good or Bad News??
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: The Intelligent Investor on April 13, 2015, 01:58:00 PM
 :clap1: :dance

What is the reason behind the surge of all pharma companies today?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Rayhan150 on April 13, 2015, 04:17:34 PM
Kub Exit kiya  jai ismain sain please guide my buying avg. is 239. Regards
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 13, 2015, 04:47:13 PM
Kub Exit kiya  jai ismain sain please guide my buying avg. is 239. Regards
between 255-260
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Rayhan150 on April 13, 2015, 05:01:20 PM
Kub Exit kiya  jai ismain sain please guide my buying avg. is 239. Regards
between 255-260

 :thanks: :fingerscrossed1: Appreciated
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on April 16, 2015, 03:03:48 PM
IBLHL results were not too bad as of HY.
Bought some more SEARL today with expectation of another good results on 21st. Any EPS close to 13 will do the purpose inshaAllah and definitely another Bonus on the Cards in June 2015...  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Rayhan150 on April 16, 2015, 03:42:46 PM
IBLHL results were not too bad as of HY.
Bought some more SEARL today with expectation of another good results on 21st. Any EPS close to 13 will do the purpose inshaAllah and definitely another Bonus on the Cards in June 2015...  :fingerscrossed1:

  :biggthumpup: :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on April 16, 2015, 04:08:21 PM
Salam.  Brothers please don't sell post results. Hold if you can till full year results. InshaAllah you will get good profit.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: stocks4u on April 18, 2015, 04:11:19 PM
Sirs.. despite healthy performance of broad market, SEARL actually declined in the day. Further it seems the stock has found a stable position between 235-240. Any price guidance at this stage?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on April 19, 2015, 10:45:20 PM
Sirs.. despite healthy performance of broad market, SEARL actually declined in the day. Further it seems the stock has found a stable position between 235-240. Any price guidance at this stage?
Pre result fears. Most of the people looking to book gains sell their holdings before the result. this is whats happening here.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SAM71 on April 19, 2015, 10:58:53 PM
Any expectations about results???

3q Consolidated Eps of less than 4.5 may trigger further selling.... Eps of 5+ may generate a positive sentiment.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on April 20, 2015, 12:17:21 AM
Any expe
Expectations about results???

3q Consolidated Eps of less than 4.5 may trigger further selling.... Eps of 5+ may generate a positive sentiment.
Expecting a good result given we have a dismal health season in winters. I am optimistic about good result.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: saadqureshi on April 20, 2015, 12:04:31 PM
I think EPS will be around 4, 5+ is not possible
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on April 20, 2015, 02:20:47 PM
I think EPS will be around 4, 5+ is not possible

Agreed. But one of the director also bought worth PKR 30.2 million of SEARL close to Quarter end so there might be some surprise element  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Rayhan150 on April 21, 2015, 10:18:07 AM
Any insightful information regarding upcoming BM, eagerly waiting for its 3rd Gear Drive, if not on 4th or 5th...   :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Omer The Researcher on April 21, 2015, 01:19:50 PM
Itna selling pressure kyun hai bhai  :skeptic:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Avi2013 on April 21, 2015, 01:21:14 PM
kya hua result ka... :skeptic: :skeptic:
Kab chalega yeh  :dunno:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Omer The Researcher on April 21, 2015, 01:23:31 PM
agay ko chalnay ki dua karen :D ye na ho peechay ko ho le
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on April 21, 2015, 02:00:21 PM
I think EPS will be around 4, 5+ is not possible

Agreed. But one of the director also bought worth PKR 30.2 million of SEARL close to Quarter end so there might be some surprise element  :biggthumpup:

Un-Consolidated

Quarter 5.38
Nine Month 13.05

Consolidated

Quarter 4.98
Nine Month 13.94

Results are good mashaAllah  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sheikhumer on April 21, 2015, 02:05:42 PM
13.05 eps 9m
5.38 epx for3rd qtr
 amazing
laoooo SEARL
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Omer The Researcher on April 21, 2015, 02:15:24 PM
wow result Lao 265+ Insha Allah
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Rayhan150 on April 21, 2015, 02:21:12 PM
265+ Insha ALLAH 
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on April 21, 2015, 02:24:16 PM
Itni selling  :ohmy:

Sorry bhaio daal main kuch kala hai  :crying_anim02:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: pax on April 21, 2015, 02:30:15 PM
that's being done to buy stocks from the weak holders?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Omer The Researcher on April 21, 2015, 02:32:14 PM
index b tou dekho na kitna gir gya zara index barha tou ye b sky rocket :tongue:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on April 21, 2015, 02:48:32 PM
 :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim:
Insha-Allah 4Q result ...aur bonus issue...plus some cash dividend...350+ by Sep'15
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Omer The Researcher on April 21, 2015, 03:12:35 PM
Alhamdulilah upper cap  :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on April 21, 2015, 04:53:47 PM
I think EPS will be around 4, 5+ is not possible

Agreed. But one of the director also bought worth PKR 30.2 million of SEARL close to Quarter end so there might be some surprise element  :biggthumpup:

Un-Consolidated

Quarter 5.38
Nine Month 13.05

Consolidated

Quarter 4.98
Nine Month 13.94

Results are good mashaAllah  :fingerscrossed1:

 :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 21, 2015, 06:15:24 PM
Kub Exit kiya  jai ismain sain please guide my buying avg. is 239. Regards
between 255-260
rahyan r u happy now
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SAM71 on April 21, 2015, 06:40:33 PM
Any expectations about results???

3q Consolidated Eps of less than 4.5 may trigger further selling.... Eps of 5+ may generate a positive sentiment.

 :good :biggthumpup:
Very good result. As expected a 5+ eps has generated the positive sentiment.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on April 21, 2015, 07:00:37 PM
bhai hum to last year say hi HINOON and SEARL kay dewany ho chukay hain  :tongue:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on April 21, 2015, 07:21:57 PM
Pls. read my comments on pharma; you will understand; hmm.

Let us talk after 6-8 months. U will understand what the hell u missed!!
Missing out the hell  is quite good always.

Bro it dint even take 6-8 months :p Alhamdullilah recovered way quickly!
Hopefully you are enjoying in heavens :p
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Avi2013 on April 21, 2015, 07:44:45 PM
Mashallah maza agaya aj toooo  :thumbsup_anim: :dance
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on April 21, 2015, 09:51:31 PM
Thanks to admin and seniors on joining me 
this valuable forum
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aleeimran on April 21, 2015, 09:55:02 PM
The Searle Company Limited (SEARL) announced its 3QFY15 result today. On a consolidated basis, the company posted earnings of PKR427mn (EPS: PKR4.98), up 62%YoY. On a cumulative basis, 9MFY15 earnings stood at PKR1.2bn (EPS: PKR13.94), up 66%YoY.

Top-line posted a healthy growth of 23%YoY to clock in at PKR6.77bn during 9MFY15. Gross margins clocked in at 51% during 9MFY15, up 500bps YoY. The growth in margins can be traced back to the introduction of new high margin products over last 9 months.

On a standalone basis, the earnings posted a hefty growth of 157%YoY to clock around PKR462mn (EPS: PKR5.38) in 3QFY15. On a cumulative basis, the earnings posted a growth of 95%YoY to PKR1.12bn (EPS: PKR13.05) in 9MFY15.

Sales posted a phenomenal growth of 28%YoY to clock at PKR5.6bn during 9MFY15 while the gross margins continued their uptrend to 46% in the period, up from 41% last year.

The scrip is currently trading at FY15 and FY16 P/Es of 12.8x and 11.11x, respectively. We currently have a BUY call on the scrip with a target prices of PKR351/sh.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: online88 on April 21, 2015, 09:58:09 PM
Thanks to admin and seniors on joining me 
this valuable forum
welcome
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: online88 on April 21, 2015, 09:59:25 PM
good show today , day trading mein got good profit, holding item hey
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: masood15 on April 21, 2015, 11:12:44 PM
GOOD result  300 cross kary ga lagaoo caps
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on April 22, 2015, 12:17:41 AM
Pls. read my comments on pharma; you will understand; hmm.

Let us talk after 6-8 months. U will understand what the hell u missed!!
Missing out the hell  is quite good always.

Bro it dint even take 6-8 months :p Alhamdullilah recovered way quickly!
Hopefully you are enjoying in heavens :p

Hahahah ! good one .

Lao searl apni ever lasting mohabbat  :biggthumpup: Searl/Hinoon arent the stocks to trade . Keep em and reap rewards ! :D
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aleeimran on April 22, 2015, 01:11:28 AM
The Searle Company Limited (SEARL) announced its 3QFY15 result today. On a consolidated basis, the company posted earnings of PKR427mn (EPS: PKR4.98), up 62%YoY. On a cumulative basis, 9MFY15 earnings stood at PKR1.2bn (EPS: PKR13.94), up 66%YoY.

Top-line posted a healthy growth of 23%YoY to clock in at PKR6.77bn during 9MFY15. Gross margins clocked in at 51% during 9MFY15, up 500bps YoY. The growth in margins can be traced back to the introduction of new high margin products over last 9 months.

On a standalone basis, the earnings posted a hefty growth of 157%YoY to clock around PKR462mn (EPS: PKR5.38) in 3QFY15. On a cumulative basis, the earnings posted a growth of 95%YoY to PKR1.12bn (EPS: PKR13.05) in 9MFY15.

Sales posted a phenomenal growth of 28%YoY to clock at PKR5.6bn during 9MFY15 while the gross margins continued their uptrend to 46% in the period, up from 41% last year.

The scrip is currently trading at FY15 and FY16 P/Es of 12.8x and 11.11x, respectively. We currently have a BUY call on the scrip with a target prices of PKR351/sh.
Laooo Searl atleast 280....... :good :good :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aabugvi on April 22, 2015, 06:24:17 AM
Party start :clap1: :dance
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: masood15 on April 22, 2015, 06:54:21 AM
Laoo 400 per in August  500 cross kary ga :thumbsup_anim:y
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on April 22, 2015, 09:31:33 AM
Laoo 400 per in August  500 cross kary ga :thumbsup_anim:y

August mai 500  :ohmy: nahi bhai zyadati nahi  uuu
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on April 22, 2015, 10:17:15 AM
 :dance
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ammad_ansari on April 22, 2015, 10:19:04 AM
 :clap1:  :dance
What is the target price of Searle in Short term.
Please guide. Thanks.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on April 22, 2015, 10:25:16 AM
It seems to be 300 in near short term :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Arif Nadeem on April 22, 2015, 11:55:07 AM
Seeing the 95 percent growth in earnings year on year basis and the future prospects plus bonus history ,i think 300 in on the cards in short term insha Allah.Searl should rock.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on April 22, 2015, 03:44:10 PM
Itni selling  :ohmy:

Sorry bhaio daal main kuch kala hai  :crying_anim02:

Lost the steam  :thumbsdown_anim:
When junta is all in some people has other plans   :rtfm:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Avi2013 on April 22, 2015, 04:05:18 PM
Itni selling  :ohmy:

Sorry bhaio daal main kuch kala hai  :crying_anim02:

Lost the steam  :thumbsdown_anim:
When junta is all in some people has other plans   :rtfm:

Agree...!!
Janta is all in...now Charkha kisi or taraf ghume ga  :thumbsdown_anim:
I sold at 261
238 to 261  ::)
Mashallah i m happy  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on April 22, 2015, 04:20:02 PM
Itni selling  :ohmy:

Sorry bhaio daal main kuch kala hai  :crying_anim02:

Lost the steam  :thumbsdown_anim:
When junta is all in some people has other plans   :rtfm:

Salam. Bhai kala ho ya gora. ..daal mein. Zabardast Oobaal aaye ga...though market mein correction expected hai...but no worries as it has recovered from 200 something. If you have invested in good company then pareshan not.... :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on April 22, 2015, 04:41:02 PM
Seniors your valuable advice is required here.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on April 22, 2015, 04:52:02 PM
Seniors your valuable advice is required here.

Keep holding.
No reason to sell for long term investors
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 22, 2015, 04:57:34 PM
Seniors your valuable advice is required here.

Keep holding.
No reason to sell for long term investors
agreed with sbm
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: atifb on April 22, 2015, 05:20:49 PM
new investors kahan per buying karan ???? please guide ???
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on April 22, 2015, 05:56:31 PM
You may buy at dips..in small chunks...and if you can hold till annual result then...just don't panic.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on April 23, 2015, 12:48:00 PM
Cap ho ga InshaAllah  :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on April 23, 2015, 03:28:57 PM
Cap ho ga InshaAllah  :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

 :[
Yaar yehi tou samajh nahi aa raha k game kya chal rahi hai  :skeptic: 
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 23, 2015, 05:01:35 PM
300+ short term inshaallah
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 27, 2015, 01:06:41 PM
Laoo Searle 300
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on April 27, 2015, 01:09:12 PM
Laoo Searle 300

 :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on April 27, 2015, 01:12:34 PM
Laoo Searle 300
InshAllah!
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on April 27, 2015, 02:05:46 PM
Laoo Searle 300
InshAllah!

Insha-Allah...a company with annual EPS as of now = 18.6 (13.94/0.75) and if we apply PE of 20 even then we get 371.
By pharma industry standards this is FAIR...insha-Allah..it will rock and rock..and rock... :good :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on April 27, 2015, 02:45:19 PM
Laoo Searle 300

Pehlay yeh See Saw to khatam ho  :lazy2:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on April 27, 2015, 03:09:38 PM
Laoo Searle 300

Pehlay yeh See Saw to khatam ho  :lazy2:

Innallha Maassabiriin.... :good :good :good
Cap ho ga insha-Allah
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on April 27, 2015, 05:03:00 PM
A goldmine for the long term knvestors :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on April 28, 2015, 11:00:56 AM
Laoo Searle 300

Pehlay yeh See Saw to khatam ho  :lazy2:

Aaj to lagta hai "Saw" wala din hai  :lazy2:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on April 28, 2015, 03:37:37 PM
Laoo Searle 300

Pehlay yeh See Saw to khatam ho  :lazy2:

Aaj to lagta hai "Saw" wala din hai  :lazy2:

 :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on April 28, 2015, 03:41:34 PM
Take fresh entry only if close above 274, or on 240
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 28, 2015, 05:41:09 PM
Share price falls due yo negativety in market hold for the period 3-4 months investors can get better returns
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on April 28, 2015, 08:00:27 PM
Share price falls due yo negativety in market hold for the period 3-4 months investors can get better returns

May be the price fell due to profit taking by day traders.. :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on April 29, 2015, 12:54:42 AM
Share price falls due yo negativety in market hold for the period 3-4 months investors can get better returns

acha nadeem bhai .
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on April 29, 2015, 10:09:32 AM
Laoo Searle 300

Pehlay yeh See Saw to khatam ho  :lazy2:

Aaj to lagta hai "Saw" wala din hai  :lazy2:

Kya aaj "See" wala din hai  :tongue:
Whatever  :dunno: holding it till XB after annual result in-sha-Allah  :good
Expecting 40% Bonus again with minimal chances of dividend

3rd Quarter Financials
http://searlecompany.com/remos_downloads/tscl3q2015.87.pdf
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Muhammad Hamza Rizwan on May 04, 2015, 12:31:38 PM
Nadeem Bhai please advise aj 263 pr searl buy kar lon? :thanks:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: genious.genio on May 04, 2015, 01:02:20 PM
Nadeem Bhai please advise aj 263 pr searl buy kar lon? :thanks:

wait for correction in market then enter... abe can b risky to enter...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on May 04, 2015, 01:25:30 PM
Bhai i also strongly feel that correction will come soon... :fingerscrossed1:
34000 level was not sustained
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aleeimran on May 04, 2015, 04:07:57 PM
bought around 259 whatever sold at 265............ :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on May 04, 2015, 04:16:51 PM
258-259 has strong support for SEARLE. However, if market took some correction then it will be available at 250 or below...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on May 04, 2015, 08:08:02 PM
Nadeem Bhai please advise aj 263 pr searl buy kar lon? :thanks:

haan kar loo main nay bhi issi rate per kya tha 4 months pehlay  :biggthumpup:

240 per wapis kardena
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aleeimran on May 04, 2015, 10:11:12 PM
258-259 has strong support for SEARLE. However, if market took some correction then it will be available at 250 or below...
256 & 259 very strong support level established after the announcement of impressive 3rd Qtr'15 result.....
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aabugvi on May 05, 2015, 07:21:03 AM
269 par strong resistance ha.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aleeimran on May 05, 2015, 06:08:05 PM
One of Pakistan’s greatest pharma players, Searle Pakistan Limited (SEARL) was initially joined as a private restricted organization in 1965 as a backup of G.D. Searle & Co, USA Over the years, its operations relentlessly extended in the nation.
On the other hand, in 1993, G.D Searle disinvested its partakes in Pakistan as a component of its worldwide arrangement. Before long, the organization was changed over into an open restricted organization.

Searle was renamed as The Searle Company Ltd. The holding organization is occupied with assembling pharmaceutical items and other purchaser items. It is one of the nation’s biggest pharmaceuticals, with two best in class fabricating offices in Karachi and Lahore. The organization’s predictable interest in new advancements and best in class gear has enhanced plant efficiencies and shortened its assembling expenses.

Searle’s related organization IBL HealthCare Limited was joined as a private restricted organization in 1997. In 2008, it was recorded on the Karachi Stock Exchange. The key business exercises of the auxiliary are promoting, offering and dissemination of health awareness items.

Former PERFORMANCE Over The Previous Four Years,

Searle has dealt with a relentless deals development, and the nine-month quarterly figures show that this pattern will proceed. The organization’s FY14 top line remained at Rs 6 billion – around 43 percent higher over that in FY11. Then, expenses have been held within proper limits and the company’s gross benefit has been expanding; as of FY14, gross benefit remained at over Rs 2.5 billion in FY14 – a 37 percent development over FY11.

At the same time, most amazing of all is Searle’s capacity to keep up uncommon gross edges; the least its gross edge has gone in the previous four years is 41 percent. To put this number in context, consider the way that Pakistan’s biggest pharmaceutical, GSK, had a most noteworthy gross edge figure of 26 percent in FY14.

Searle, much like its associates, has been upgrading its attention on its customer human services fragment. Incomes from this portion, albeit demonstrating topsy-turvy development, now frame a bigger offer of incomes; purchaser social insurance shaped more than 12 percent of incomes in FY14, instead of 7 percent in FY11.

Late PERFORMANCE For the nine months finished FY15, Searle has truly beaten itself; twenty-eight percent deals development year-on-year and a 43 percent development in gross benefit interpreting into a primary concern change of 95 percent. Indeed, Searle’s 9MFY15 main concern denote a record-breaking high and has effectively surpassed every single past quarter, there’s still one quarter to go!

The organization prides itself on its hierarchical culture and accentuates its cost-cutting strategies. According to the yearly executive’s report, “cost-awareness at Searle is an imparted mentality, as opposed to a group of standards that are detested and stood up to.”

The increment in deals development can likewise be ascribed to residential volume development because of growing specialist scope. Anyhow, all the more critically, Searle was conceded a cost increment on some of its pharmaceutical items in FY14, which served to enhance its edges.

Also, there have been some imaginative medication and medicinal services item dispatches starting late; a year ago, Searle dispatched Jentin Met, an item in the quickest developing helpful fragment of diabetes. The organization additionally dispatched Olesta AM, a blend of Amlodopine and Olmesartan. Also, promoting endeavors were upgraded on the Searle Vitamin Water product offering.

At long last,

An acknowledging rupee looks good for pharmaceuticals, as it permits them to get more blasts for their buck in the worldwide business sector. Additionally, discouraged fuel expenses would have had a positive effect on edges. Nonetheless, these would have had a minor impact on Searle, whose fares and spending on fuel represent little – four percent of offers and 2 percent of expense of offers as of FY14, separately.

Viewpoint The pharma business in Pakistan has been enduring because of exorbitant regulation and no remittances at a cost increment. Nonetheless, Searle has been one of the blessed few to have escaped with a cost increment on some of its items.

A reexamined estimating arrangement is required to be put into impact one year from now. Concerning Searle, the organization is in “all high-thickness helpful roads” like cardiovascular, diabetes, orthopedics, neurology, and pediatrics. It keeps on expanding its vicinity in other helpful territories, for example, anti-toxins, gastroenterology, pulmonology, virology and oncology. Besides, Searle looks to infiltrate into new markets, and can incredibly advantage from extending its worldwide foot shaped impression.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on May 05, 2015, 08:14:43 PM
Chaly ga chaly ga, bas 1-2 months  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on May 05, 2015, 10:11:17 PM
Chaly ga chaly ga, bas 1-2 months  :fingerscrossed1:


210 pe aap bezaar hogae the aur 260 pe aapko lagthaa hai chalega :p
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on May 05, 2015, 10:52:34 PM
Yeh chale ga...nahi...urday ga inshaAllah... :biggthumpup:
Mid june se dekhna....
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Almaas on May 05, 2015, 11:00:53 PM
Yeh chale ga...nahi...urday ga inshaAllah... :biggthumpup:
Mid june se dekhna....
Whats TP for June 15 & DEC 15.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on May 05, 2015, 11:01:29 PM
210 pe aap bezaar hogae the aur 260 pe aapko lagthaa hai chalega :p
210 nahi 200 per - stop loss hit ho gaya tha mera. Bought again at 209-212, and holding.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on May 05, 2015, 11:14:58 PM
210 pe aap bezaar hogae the aur 260 pe aapko lagthaa hai chalega :p
210 nahi 200 per - stop loss hit ho gaya tha mera. Bought again at 209-212, and holding.

 :fingerscrossed1: :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on May 05, 2015, 11:53:08 PM
Yeh chale ga...nahi...urday ga inshaAllah... :biggthumpup:
Mid june se dekhna....
Whats TP for June 15 & DEC 15.

On June'15 results insha-Allah 350... :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on May 05, 2015, 11:54:39 PM
Yeh chale ga...nahi...urday ga inshaAllah... :biggthumpup:
Mid june se dekhna....
Whats TP for June 15 & DEC 15.
350+
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: stocks4u on May 06, 2015, 12:37:53 PM
Seniors, please advise:

After looking at 9MFY15 result, the real estate segmented showed operating loss. Thus what do you think will be the trigger to start stock rally in 300+ range as earnings growth remains at steady levels and real estate has not shown any impact on bottomline.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on May 06, 2015, 06:02:47 PM
Seniors, please advise:

After looking at 9MFY15 result, the real estate segmented showed operating loss. Thus what do you think will be the trigger to start stock rally in 300+ range as earnings growth remains at steady levels and real estate has not shown any impact on bottomline.

Don't worry brother, the real estate segment will ab active soon and add more to profits...buy on dip... :good
I added more quantities at ~254. Alhamdulillah
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on May 07, 2015, 11:56:22 PM
Seniors, please advise:

After looking at 9MFY15 result, the real estate segmented showed operating loss. Thus what do you think will be the trigger to start stock rally in 300+ range as earnings growth remains at steady levels and real estate has not shown any impact on bottomline.
Real estate investments is just one part of the business. SEARL has a wide range of investments. I noticed that loss as well but since there was no breakup or the source available thus I can only assume that this happened amid relatively sluggish property market this year.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on May 08, 2015, 01:07:01 AM
Seniors, please advise:

After looking at 9MFY15 result, the real estate segmented showed operating loss. Thus what do you think will be the trigger to start stock rally in 300+ range as earnings growth remains at steady levels and real estate has not shown any impact on bottomline.
Real estate investments is just one part of the business. SEARL has a wide range of investments. I noticed that loss as well but since there was no breakup or the source available thus I can only assume that this happened amid relatively sluggish property market this year.

Loss is due to financing costs.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on May 08, 2015, 12:59:16 PM
may - june main 240 lag gaye ga wahan per add karna
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on May 08, 2015, 04:29:25 PM
may - june main 240 lag gaye ga wahan per add karna
Wahan par to Final result aaye ga and once the result and payout is good. I would move towards 300.240 uss surat ma possible hay if final result is below expectations.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on May 08, 2015, 04:48:42 PM
Yaar aik week aur rok lo iss ko main bs Hino ki ride ly k wapis aya k aya  :tongue:
Selling eve thing at 263 and switched to Hino worked amazingly superb  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Muhammad Hamza Rizwan on May 08, 2015, 07:39:13 PM
may - june main 240 lag gaye ga wahan per add karna
Wahan par to Final result aaye ga and once the result and payout is good. I would move towards 300.240 uss surat ma possible hay if final result is below expectations.
240 is not expected at the moment.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 08, 2015, 07:43:53 PM
This is kse. 240 is very much possible. Though no worry for long term investors.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Alpha on May 08, 2015, 08:12:09 PM
Yaar aik week aur rok lo iss ko main bs Hino ki ride ly k wapis aya k aya  :tongue:
Selling eve thing at 263 and switched to Hino worked amazingly superb  :biggthumpup:

 :laugh:

Best of luck
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 08, 2015, 08:14:24 PM
Found good support at 250 level
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aleeimran on May 08, 2015, 11:56:18 PM
Found good support at 250 level
seems heading towards 260 and if crossed then we may see it's rally till 275
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aleeimran on May 09, 2015, 12:09:25 AM
may - june main 240 lag gaye ga wahan per add karna
Wahan par to Final result aaye ga and once the result and payout is good. I would move towards 300.240 uss surat ma possible hay if final result is below expectations.
240 is not expected at the moment.
at current 240 and below pa to Hinoon hi mil skta ha Searl nhi..........coz Hinoon to apni turn lay chuka (after announcement of final result and declaration of dividend & Bonus) jb ka Searl ki turn to abhi suru hui ha (coz iska final/last Qtr ka result along with dividend/Bonus ana baqi ha)................agr final result ma iski earning km az km 3-4 rs per share bhi ajati ha to bhi iski consolidated earning per share 17-18 tk pohanch jaye gi aur iska sath 30% Div and 30% bonus shares bhi announce ho jatay han to dhammal ho jaye ga.............
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on May 09, 2015, 02:16:16 AM
If EPS for FY16 is assumed Rs 25 per share.  then, SEARL is trading at forward P/E of just 10X 
This is multiple of Cement and banks.   While SEARL is a pharmaceuticals company with ultra high growth rate!! 
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aabugvi on May 09, 2015, 05:55:05 AM
Es ka final aur last qtr ka result kab ana ha.plz inform
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on May 09, 2015, 06:02:40 AM
Es ka final aur last qtr ka result kab ana ha.plz inform

Last year Annual Result was on 24th September 2014

This year also around that date............INSHALLAH this year chances are 25%-30% bonus with cash divid
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on May 09, 2015, 11:41:20 AM
Es ka final aur last qtr ka result kab ana ha.plz inform

Last year Annual Result was on 24th September 2014

This year also around that date............INSHALLAH this year chances are 25%-30% bonus with cash divid

Boss 40% Bonus with No Cash Dividend  :rtfm:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 09, 2015, 03:10:46 PM
Best investment stock
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on May 09, 2015, 09:04:45 PM
Best investment stock

Salam, please give your TP if bonus announced this year is
30% -
40% -

Jazak-Allah...my humble estimate if 330-340 @ 30% bonus; and 350-375 @ 40% bonus...insha-Allah
EPS expectation is Rs. 20
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on May 10, 2015, 04:59:45 PM
In the past three years SEARL issued bonus shares @ % which remained nearly equal to the subsequent's years % of Earning growth.  Bonus issued for FY14 was 40%, whereas, Earning growth is registered @ 95% (stand alone) for the 9 months FY15.  So the % of earning growth has surpassed the % of bonus for FY14. 

This high growth trend may make BOD to issue even higher bonus shares for FY15 than what they issued in the previous years.  Earnings are increasing quarter by quarter.  Certainly double earning for FY15 than FY14 and handsome bonus will increase the price in Sep to a great deal.  But If pattern remains the same for FY16, (which will be watched at 1Q result of FY16) we have to see what will be the P/E ratio for FY16 and that will drive the market price further.  So Sep and Oct could be the months of great price performance.
 
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: rana27 on May 10, 2015, 10:35:15 PM
Best investment stock
yes result tak hold hey
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on May 11, 2015, 02:01:50 PM
Yaar aik week aur rok lo iss ko main bs Hino ki ride ly k wapis aya k aya  :tongue:
Selling eve thing at 263 and switched to Hino worked amazingly superb  :biggthumpup:

Amazing weekend per news Sovaldi ki thi lakin Pharma mai sab se zyada maar iss ko par rahi  :tongue:

Itni selling  :ohmy:

Sorry bhaio daal main kuch kala hai  :crying_anim02:

 :rtfm:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ziajano on May 11, 2015, 02:18:23 PM
altaf bhai ki koi news to nahi hai :dance
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on May 11, 2015, 02:19:53 PM
IK Kanjar khana and NA 122 result siyapa
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on May 11, 2015, 02:30:20 PM
IK Kanjar khana and NA 122 result siyapa

Bond bhai NA122 ki news to positive thi aaj...
Aaj ki salami Dar ki hai, news of increase in CGT and Bonus Tax....
Jis bc k liay Bonus Shares are income us khoty se aur kya expected
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on May 11, 2015, 02:41:41 PM
its due to political uncertainty

another 500-600 points thukai
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on May 11, 2015, 05:22:22 PM
Lasan lag gaye aaj to... Hopefully things will get better before results in JUL.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on May 11, 2015, 05:24:39 PM
its due to political uncertainty

another 500-600 points thukai
SECP and broker's phadda is back.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Hassan Munir on May 11, 2015, 05:26:02 PM
220s per laoooo
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aalam on May 11, 2015, 05:42:32 PM
its due to political uncertainty

another 500-600 points thukai
SECP and broker's phadda is back.
phir mal aur sasta milay ga :laugh: :crying_anim02:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Atif1 on May 11, 2015, 06:33:28 PM
Found good support at 250 level

 :laugh:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on May 11, 2015, 07:43:52 PM
Found good support at 250 level

 :laugh:

It is OK mere dost...nobody can predict market movements with 100% accuracy...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on May 11, 2015, 07:53:36 PM
Found good support at 250 level

 :laugh:

It is OK mere dost...nobody can predict market movements with 100% accuracy...

Unless he is SBM bhai's driver  :tongue: :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: shakil on May 11, 2015, 09:23:30 PM
Seniors advice requested regarding start of expected rally for annual result for Searle.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on May 11, 2015, 09:45:55 PM
Salam. Bhai rally tou jab Chale ge tou Chale ge..filhal tou maatmi jaloos chal raha hai  :bangin:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on May 11, 2015, 10:12:31 PM
its due to political uncertainty

another 500-600 points thukai
SECP and broker's phadda is back.
phir mal aur sasta milay ga :laugh: :crying_anim02:

Logoan ka kabara kr kay
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Fahd on May 11, 2015, 11:55:21 PM
Salam. Bhai rally tou jab Chale ge tou Chale ge..filhal tou maatmi jaloos chal raha hai  :bangin:
:laugh:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on May 12, 2015, 07:45:49 AM
may - june main 240 lag gaye ga wahan per add karna
so market may be plus tomorrow?
Nothing wrong on political front as PM & Chief are going Afghanistan tomorrow.
Actually the Brokerage Houses spread panic.
better to remain sideline.

ajeeb baat ha jin k khlaaf action Ho raha ha secp air nab kat woh buying kar rahay keep Haa ajj aur mutual  fund  jis ko support deny the was big  seller of 1.5 billions



23o
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on May 12, 2015, 04:42:50 PM
After closely watching SEARL trading pattern in yesterday mandee and todays tezi and keeping in mind forced selling on 3Q result day and recent fall of about 10% despite excellent results and growth prospect my PERSONAL opinion is k SEARL will trade here for at least 3 to 4 month till about end of August 2015. Short term no favorable jump in price expected. Decided not to jump in for the time being till then CEMENT and AUTO sector are preferred  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on May 12, 2015, 04:48:55 PM
After closely watching SEARL trading pattern in yesterday mandee and todays tezi and keeping in mind forced selling on 3Q result day and recent fall of about 10% despite excellent results and growth prospect my PERSONAL opinion is k SEARL will trade here for at least 3 to 4 month till about end of August 2015. Short term no favorable jump in price expected. Decided not to jump in for the time being till then CEMENT and AUTO sector are preferred  :fingerscrossed1:
So you mean to say there will be no impact of the 30-40% bonus SERAL might issue in July?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on May 12, 2015, 06:08:46 PM
My humble assessment is that it will start showing upward movement from June..perhaps mid June...insha-Allah...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on May 12, 2015, 08:53:40 PM
After closely watching SEARL trading pattern in yesterday mandee and todays tezi and keeping in mind forced selling on 3Q result day and recent fall of about 10% despite excellent results and growth prospect my PERSONAL opinion is k SEARL will trade here for at least 3 to 4 month till about end of August 2015. Short term no favorable jump in price expected. Decided not to jump in for the time being till then CEMENT and AUTO sector are preferred  :fingerscrossed1:
So you mean to say there will be no impact of the 30-40% bonus SERAL might issue in July?

Bro not in July... Annual results will be announced by September end atleast. And secondly its my personal opinion and I might b 200% wrong  :$:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on May 13, 2015, 12:47:23 AM
Bro not in July... Annual results will be announced by September end atleast. And secondly its my personal opinion and I might b 200% wrong  :$:
I did not know that, I thought annual results will be announced in July end.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on May 13, 2015, 09:53:09 AM
After closely watching SEARL trading pattern in yesterday mandee and todays tezi and keeping in mind forced selling on 3Q result day and recent fall of about 10% despite excellent results and growth prospect my PERSONAL opinion is k SEARL will trade here for at least 3 to 4 month till about end of August 2015. Short term no favorable jump in price expected. Decided not to jump in for the time being till then CEMENT and AUTO sector are preferred  :fingerscrossed1:
So you mean to say there will be no impact of the 30-40% bonus SERAL might issue in July?

Bro not in July... Annual results will be announced by September end atleast. And secondly its my personal opinion and I might b 200% wrong  :$:
Precisely on Sep 24 for last two years.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Muhammad Hamza Rizwan on May 14, 2015, 09:43:58 AM
Seniors, Please advise its short term target price? :thanks:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on May 14, 2015, 07:01:21 PM
Seniors, Please advise its short term target price? :thanks:

The market is not at shortterm buying stage  :tongue: Warna short hojaogay market se . Accumulate on dips and keep it till Full year results
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Muhammad Hamza Rizwan on May 15, 2015, 11:46:11 AM
good performance
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on May 15, 2015, 12:34:47 PM
Aaj jaan dikhayee hay SEARL. 260 se upper closing honi chehayay for further good run.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on May 15, 2015, 04:59:45 PM
Yaar aik week aur rok lo iss ko main bs Hino ki ride ly k wapis aya k aya  :tongue:
Selling eve thing at 263 and switched to Hino worked amazingly superb  :biggthumpup:

Next week HINO ka exit pakka :D
Agar SEARL aik aur phera 240 ka laga ly to maza aa jaey  :$: will wait for 240 or 274 which may come first  :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aleeimran on May 16, 2015, 12:45:02 AM
Yaar aik week aur rok lo iss ko main bs Hino ki ride ly k wapis aya k aya  :tongue:
Selling eve thing at 263 and switched to Hino worked amazingly superb  :biggthumpup:

Next week HINO ka exit pakka :D
Agar SEARL aik aur phera 240 ka laga ly to maza aa jaey  :$: will wait for 240 or 274 which may come first  :good
some sources on different stock forums are giving short to mid term tp 275...let's see whether it touch 275 first or 250........
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aleeimran on May 16, 2015, 12:50:03 AM
Yaar aik week aur rok lo iss ko main bs Hino ki ride ly k wapis aya k aya  :tongue:
Selling eve thing at 263 and switched to Hino worked amazingly superb  :biggthumpup:

Next week HINO ka exit pakka :D
Agar SEARL aik aur phera 240 ka laga ly to maza aa jaey  :$: will wait for 240 or 274 which may come first  :good
some sources on different stock forums are giving short to mid term tp 275...let's see whether it touch 275 first or 250........
day before yesterday......i decided to switch to Hcar from Searl as both were trading at same rates around 247-248 but after observing erratic & cyclical movement of Hcar for an hour i decided to sell Hcar @249 and buy back my Searl at 248.......now i really thank to Allah that i have now Searl and not Hcar.............. 
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on May 16, 2015, 10:32:26 AM
SEARLE is not for sale...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on May 16, 2015, 06:26:03 PM
HASCOL,HUMNL,SEARL,SYS,SPEL,HINOON sab uthanay wali items hain iss waqt
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on May 19, 2015, 10:30:16 AM
Yaar aik week aur rok lo iss ko main bs Hino ki ride ly k wapis aya k aya  :tongue:
Selling eve thing at 263 and switched to Hino worked amazingly superb  :biggthumpup:

Next week HINO ka exit pakka :D
Agar SEARL aik aur phera 240 ka laga ly to maza aa jaey  :$: will wait for 240 or 274 which may come first  :good

75% of HINO sold at 1095 Alhumdulillah 5% saving on SEARL and 10% gain on HINO....
waiting for SEARL dip in haphazard sessions expected till budget at least :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Muhammad Hamza Rizwan on May 20, 2015, 12:40:13 PM
looking good today.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 20, 2015, 08:00:09 PM
Find good support at 250
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on May 21, 2015, 11:36:56 AM
Find good support at 250

Whenever it finds support it goes down  :tongue:
..... anyways waiting :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Omer The Researcher on May 21, 2015, 01:35:30 PM
bought searl :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on May 21, 2015, 01:48:55 PM
Inspite of sluggishness in market SEARL is showing strength
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Omer The Researcher on May 21, 2015, 02:37:31 PM
Expecting it to trade above 260+ next week Insha Allah
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on May 21, 2015, 02:59:42 PM
jab buy kya ho tou aisa hee lagta hai
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Muhammad Hamza Rizwan on May 21, 2015, 03:23:54 PM
brilliant performance  :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on May 21, 2015, 03:41:08 PM
Definitely SEARLE will perform better in coming days
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Omer The Researcher on May 21, 2015, 03:44:22 PM
jab buy kya ho tou aisa hee lagta hai

Bahes na kero Buy kero  :D  :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aleeimran on May 21, 2015, 09:35:17 PM
jab buy kya ho tou aisa hee lagta hai

Bahes na kero Buy kero  :D  :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby:
Good going  :good :good :good
slow slow will cross 270.............
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Muhammad Hamza Rizwan on May 22, 2015, 09:57:48 AM
looks in great touch
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on May 22, 2015, 10:34:20 AM
looks in great touch

Bro only in the month of May 2015 it has made 04 unsuccessful attempts to cross 260...
So be patient  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on May 22, 2015, 01:41:31 PM
looks in great touch

Bro only in the month of May 2015 it has made 04 unsuccessful attempts to cross 260...
So be patient  :fingerscrossed1:
Which means upside bullishness, with one or two sucessive green sessions, it would very likely pass the 260 mark and then start towards 275
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on May 22, 2015, 03:27:02 PM
looks in great touch

Bro only in the month of May 2015 it has made 04 unsuccessful attempts to cross 260...
So be patient  :fingerscrossed1:

 :tongue: Great Touch
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on May 22, 2015, 03:36:19 PM
jab buy kya ho tou aisa hee lagta hai

Bahes na kero Buy kero  :D  :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby:

bs omer the gambit ne buy kehdia phr to aankh band kr k buy krlein.. yeh roz cap wala share he buy krtay hain  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Omer The Researcher on May 22, 2015, 04:10:37 PM
jab buy kya ho tou aisa hee lagta hai

Bahes na kero Buy kero  :D  :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby:

bs omer the gambit ne buy kehdia phr to aankh band kr k buy krlein.. yeh roz cap wala share he buy krtay hain  :biggthumpup:

tum b searl ki dum se latak jao :P  :D
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on May 22, 2015, 04:15:14 PM
jab buy kya ho tou aisa hee lagta hai

Bahes na kero Buy kero  :D  :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby:

bs omer the gambit ne buy kehdia phr to aankh band kr k buy krlein.. yeh roz cap wala share he buy krtay hain  :biggthumpup:

tum b searl ki dum se latak jao :P  :D

haha ku bik nahi rhe kia share  :tongue:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Omer The Researcher on May 22, 2015, 04:17:14 PM
jab buy kya ho tou aisa hee lagta hai

Bahes na kero Buy kero  :D  :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby:

bs omer the gambit ne buy kehdia phr to aankh band kr k buy krlein.. yeh roz cap wala share he buy krtay hain  :biggthumpup:

tum b searl ki dum se latak jao :P  :D

haha ku bik nahi rhe kia share  :tongue:

oho ye bhai sahab saray share khareedtay hain  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on May 22, 2015, 04:24:57 PM
jab buy kya ho tou aisa hee lagta hai

Bahes na kero Buy kero  :D  :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby:

bs omer the gambit ne buy kehdia phr to aankh band kr k buy krlein.. yeh roz cap wala share he buy krtay hain  :biggthumpup:

tum b searl ki dum se latak jao :P  :D

haha ku bik nahi rhe kia share  :tongue:

oho ye bhai sahab saray share khareedtay hain  :D :D :D :D

saarey nahi to aap k to khareed he lunga, but 240 say ooper nahi  :tongue:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Omer The Researcher on May 22, 2015, 04:27:44 PM
240 mein tou ap ko searl share ki potty he di ja sakti hai actual share nahi  :shoaby: :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on May 22, 2015, 04:30:34 PM
240 mein tou ap ko searl share ki potty he di ja sakti hai actual share nahi  :shoaby: :shoaby:

iss rate pe banda potty khareedley, searle na ley.  :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on May 22, 2015, 04:34:45 PM
240 mein tou ap ko searl share ki potty he di ja sakti hai actual share nahi  :shoaby: :shoaby:

iss rate pe banda potty khareedley, searle na ley.  :clap1:
ha ha ha what a post :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on May 22, 2015, 04:45:24 PM
SEARL is a solid share for investment purpose showing good performance for the last three Q  in EPS.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on May 22, 2015, 09:43:54 PM
240 mein tou ap ko searl share ki potty he di ja sakti hai actual share nahi  :shoaby: :shoaby:

iss rate pe banda potty khareedley, searle na ley.  :clap1:

 :biggthumpup: hilarious


 KSE WEB takes the potty  :D
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Omer The Researcher on May 22, 2015, 10:36:11 PM
240 mein tou ap ko searl share ki potty he di ja sakti hai actual share nahi  :shoaby: :shoaby:

iss rate pe banda potty khareedley, searle na ley.  :clap1:

 :biggthumpup: hilarious


 KSE WEB takes the potty  :D

Hahahahahahahahahahaha uff my stomach is hurting due to laughter
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Alpha on May 23, 2015, 12:19:57 AM
240 mein tou ap ko searl share ki potty he di ja sakti hai actual share nahi  :shoaby: :shoaby:

iss rate pe banda potty khareedley, searle na ley.  :clap1:

 :biggthumpup:

Found good sense of humor in the forum lately,

Good you people are agreeing to disagree in a most pleasant way, rarely seen in our society   
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on May 23, 2015, 08:31:30 PM
lao cap on monday I.A
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on May 23, 2015, 08:36:58 PM
lao cap on monday I.A

Insha-Allah...if it crosses 300 before annual results than 400 pakka.... :tongue:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on May 24, 2015, 02:57:03 PM
What would be the impact of 100 bps cut on SEARL  :confused1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on May 24, 2015, 04:37:34 PM
not a highly leverage company netural to positive thanks to over all mkt sentimetn
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Muhammad Hamza Rizwan on May 25, 2015, 10:56:40 AM
It seems neutral to announced monetry policy.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on May 25, 2015, 12:11:24 PM
not a highly leverage company netural to positive thanks to over all mkt sentimetn

INSHALLAH june mai chalna sooruh ho gi
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Muhammad Hamza Rizwan on May 26, 2015, 01:07:18 PM
beaten badly by negative market  :@
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 26, 2015, 01:10:12 PM
beaten badly by negative market  :@

May touch 250 TODAY. Good buy at 240.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on May 26, 2015, 01:14:11 PM
looks in great touch

Bro only in the month of May 2015 it has made 04 unsuccessful attempts to cross 260...
So be patient  :fingerscrossed1:

No Bro not earlier than mid of August   :console:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Muhammad Hamza Rizwan on May 26, 2015, 01:19:04 PM
beaten badly by negative market  :@

May touch 250 TODAY. Good buy at 240.
You are talking about almost a lower lock today  :ohmy:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Muhammad Hamza Rizwan on May 27, 2015, 11:27:10 AM
Searl is struggling to move up.  :dunno:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on May 27, 2015, 11:42:29 AM
Searl is struggling to move up.  :dunno:

INSHALLAH Mid June say le ker July start tuk momentum pakray ga
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on May 27, 2015, 11:51:30 AM
best performance period will be Aug Sep Oct
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: akbar.aqil on May 27, 2015, 02:21:54 PM
400 points plus pe mara para hai yaar   :bangin:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on May 27, 2015, 02:36:04 PM
Pivot point for SEARL is Rs.259.92 lets see if it tests successfully today
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on May 27, 2015, 10:19:03 PM
400 points plus pe mara para hai yaar   :bangin:

Testing the nerves of short tempers............ be patience..............agar fruit dair say pakay then us main ras hamesha bohat ziadah or meetha hota hay   :tongue:  :tongue:  :tongue:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on May 27, 2015, 10:32:01 PM
Yes I agree with LOTO OR PHOTO bro for the patience in this script will reward you with sweet "RAS" 
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on May 27, 2015, 10:53:29 PM
Yes I agree with LOTO OR PHOTO bro for the patience in this script will reward you with sweet "RAS"

There is a juice of 100 rs in this fruit due to be extracted in Sep 15.  Further fresh juice can be expected end of Oct. 15 when first Q result of FY16 will be announced giving the projections of EPS for FY16 :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on May 27, 2015, 11:35:38 PM
Yes I agree with LOTO OR PHOTO bro for the patience in this script will reward you with sweet "RAS"

There is a juice of 100 rs in this fruit due to be extracted in Sep 15.  Further fresh juice can be expected end of Oct. 15 when first Q result of FY16 will be announced giving the projections of EPS for FY16 :thumbsup_anim:

INSHALLAH Juice of Rs. 100-140
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: akbar.aqil on May 28, 2015, 02:23:15 PM
Chala chala..... :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on May 28, 2015, 02:26:50 PM
Market is RED but this scrip is absorbing the pressure
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Muhammad Hamza Rizwan on May 28, 2015, 02:30:38 PM
for the time being i got rid of this script.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on May 28, 2015, 02:40:38 PM
Patience is vital in this field to gain something , if it crosses the barrier Rs.260/- plus then next journey will start
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on May 28, 2015, 02:45:34 PM
Market is RED but this scrip is absorbing the pressure

kira pressure ustaad?? 147k volume only so far
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on May 28, 2015, 02:48:18 PM
Pharmas are still green
HINOON,FEROZ and SEARL in green territory despite a red market.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on May 28, 2015, 03:31:31 PM
Pharmas are still green
HINOON,FEROZ and SEARL in green territory despite a red market.

Were almost ZERO in 400+ Tezi to sirf 100 -ive market mai marginal positive kya maeini   :[
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on May 28, 2015, 03:55:18 PM
Pharmas are still green
HINOON,FEROZ and SEARL in green territory despite a red market.

Were almost ZERO in 400+ Tezi to sirf 100 -ive market mai marginal positive kya maeini   :[
June close aa raha hay...Ab karcha bhee sonay key bhao milay ga aur yeh to sona items hain, especially SEARL.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on May 29, 2015, 11:56:12 AM
Pharmas are still green
HINOON,FEROZ and SEARL in green territory despite a red market.
Were almost ZERO in 400+ Tezi to sirf 100 -ive market mai marginal positive kya maeini   :[
Today 300 green market  :[
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on May 29, 2015, 02:47:28 PM
Party will sooon start in this scrip
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: online88 on May 29, 2015, 03:00:32 PM
Party will sooon start in this scrip
bought 7.5k and will add more if come down for medium term investment purpose, out from kse trading and now come back after about 20 days
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on May 29, 2015, 03:40:08 PM
Party will sooon start in this scrip
bought 7.5k and will add more if come down for medium term investment purpose, out from kse trading and now come back after about 20 days

obhaee market crash hogayi to???/   :tongue:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on May 29, 2015, 03:56:04 PM
The script has lot of potential but it is too much scary as the big boy manipulating it is too BC to be confronted with  :$:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: online88 on May 29, 2015, 10:56:01 PM
Party will sooon start in this scrip
bought 7.5k and will add more if come down for medium term investment purpose, out from kse trading and now come back after about 20 days
market ager neechay aa gai to average kerney ka programme hey, apney paisay per maal Lainey ki tension nahin hoti, margin tension deta hey
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on May 29, 2015, 11:35:15 PM
Fully  agree with bro ONLINE88 and will hold till Sept. For better returns on investment
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on May 30, 2015, 05:40:53 PM
240 karo
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on May 30, 2015, 08:50:47 PM
Every thing is possible in this market , to reach your target market should slide downward, NAHAQ PERWANAY KA KHOON HOGA............
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: dr.muhammad zia on May 31, 2015, 02:49:27 AM
pata nahin q meri sixth daily isse buy karne ka kehti hai aur men buy nahin kar pata ..aney do leke rakhenge is ko sept tak
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on May 31, 2015, 02:32:01 PM
At the time of buying this script pls. Keep in mind the holding period upto Sept to extract maximum juice from this fruit.Rest decision is your regards.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on May 31, 2015, 06:08:21 PM
240 karo

Agar 240 aya tou maza aa jaye ga...i am also waiting with some cash in hand ..but it is range bound...250-265...
wese yeh billi k khwab mein chhechhray..wali baat hai.. :tongue:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: shakil on May 31, 2015, 09:53:34 PM
Despite huge green market on Friday (300+) searl was subdued at 259-256 with closing at 256.
I have a feeling that next week we can see it below 250.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on June 01, 2015, 02:41:08 PM
If it cross the pivot point Rs.261.58 &  closes above said point then the new high is expected shortly
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on June 02, 2015, 12:19:42 AM
"5% tax on Bonus Shares to be withdrawn: FBR Sources"
Ticker on ARY News

 :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on June 02, 2015, 09:51:28 AM
Today is SEARLS,S day
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: cariboy216 on June 02, 2015, 01:14:57 PM
After missing two short rallies, I sold Searle today, and now it's peekng above 270:(
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 02, 2015, 02:21:01 PM
Held mine tightly and loving it! :D
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ::WASIF:: on June 02, 2015, 02:27:10 PM
might be caped 0.20 paisa further push is required to cap
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ::WASIF:: on June 02, 2015, 02:28:17 PM
Come on
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on June 02, 2015, 02:30:44 PM
Hold it tightly and keep the nerves strong then you will be winner
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: online88 on June 02, 2015, 02:46:06 PM
Party will sooon start in this scrip
bought 7.5k and will add more if come down for medium term investment purpose, out from kse trading and now come back after about 20 days
good show :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Javed Khan on June 02, 2015, 02:51:50 PM
looks like it ll hit upper lock today IA
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 02, 2015, 03:03:56 PM
might be caped 0.20 paisa further push is required to cap
273 se wapis  :bangin: Cap par sell order lagaya hua tha...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on June 02, 2015, 03:37:52 PM
might be caped 0.20 paisa further push is required to cap
lao wapis 258
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ::WASIF:: on June 02, 2015, 07:26:03 PM
might be caped 0.20 paisa further push is required to cap
273 se wapis  :bangin: Cap par sell order lagaya hua tha...

might be caped 0.20 paisa further push is required to cap
lao wapis 258



 huhu

bhai angraiz qoum "MIGHT BE" ka matlab hy k shahid cap hojaya
agay leekha hy k 0.20 paisa ur chahiya cap honay k lia

samj ayi k joti utaron

 :mad:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Dehan on June 02, 2015, 07:42:57 PM
might be caped 0.20 paisa further push is required to cap
273 se wapis  :bangin: Cap par sell order lagaya hua tha...

might be caped 0.20 paisa further push is required to cap
lao wapis 258



 huhu

bhai angraiz qoum "MIGHT BE" ka matlab hy k shahid cap hojaya
agay leekha hy k 0.20 paisa ur chahiya cap honay k lia

samj ayi k joti utaron

 :mad:
No aggression please.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on June 02, 2015, 08:51:33 PM
short sold at 272.50
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 02, 2015, 08:54:02 PM
might be caped 0.20 paisa further push is required to cap
273 se wapis  :bangin: Cap par sell order lagaya hua tha...

might be caped 0.20 paisa further push is required to cap
lao wapis 258



 huhu

bhai angraiz qoum "MIGHT BE" ka matlab hy k shahid cap hojaya
agay leekha hy k 0.20 paisa ur chahiya cap honay k lia

samj ayi k joti utaron

 :mad:
I was stating my observation, main nay subha subha he cap par sell kay orders daal diyay thay. I do day trading with half of my holding. So there is no point of showing aggression...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tac786 on June 02, 2015, 08:59:39 PM
might be caped 0.20 paisa further push is required to cap
273 se wapis  :bangin: Cap par sell order lagaya hua tha...
aap ki muqaddar main 273 ki bjae 283 ho ga is liye sell hit nahin howe best of luck with happy day  :D
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 02, 2015, 09:02:15 PM
might be caped 0.20 paisa further push is required to cap
273 se wapis  :bangin: Cap par sell order lagaya hua tha...
aap ki muqaddar main 273 ki bjae 283 ho ga is liye sell hit nahin howe best of luck with happy day  :D
Actually my plan was that the cap wouldn't be sustained so would have re-bought at lower level (~270) but you know not everyday yields what we desire :)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on June 02, 2015, 10:31:03 PM
No agression pls be cool and calm and always face the situation with smiling face.at the end this stock was unable to hold the feet lets hope for better
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ::WASIF:: on June 03, 2015, 12:45:57 PM
 :D
No agression pls be cool and calm and always face the situation with smiling face.at the end this stock was unable to hold the feet lets hope for better
:D :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: jay on June 03, 2015, 05:39:28 PM
Seniors please guide. If it is good to buy this scrip at the current rate? What would be the TP for like next qtr till year end? Thanks!

Sabar mera dost

:D
No agression pls be cool and calm and always face the situation with smiling face.at the end this stock was unable to hold the feet lets hope for better
:D :clap1:

WT IS THE FUTURE OF SEARL AND TP FOR SHORT TERM
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 03, 2015, 05:46:04 PM
300+ for 3-4 months holding
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on June 03, 2015, 06:43:11 PM
All time high
 during the last one yoear it was quoted Rs.289/- and now it is not for away from this price, it has potentials not only to cross this but to achieve new heights in next few months.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: aleeimran on June 03, 2015, 09:24:53 PM
All time high
 during the last one yoear it was quoted Rs.289/- and now it is not for away from this price, it has potentials not only to cross this but to achieve new heights in next few months.
it managed to cross barrier of 260 and touched 270+ on budget rumors regarding withdrawl of taxability on Bonus issue but today rumors were there that Govt is not going to make any change in the taxability of Bonus shares and 5% tax on bonus stock will remain unchanged.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 03, 2015, 10:34:45 PM
All time high
 during the last one yoear it was quoted Rs.289/- and now it is not for away from this price, it has potentials not only to cross this but to achieve new heights in next few months.
it managed to cross barrier of 260 and touched 270+ on budget rumors regarding withdrawl of taxability on Bonus issue but today rumors were there that Govt is not going to make any change in the taxability of Bonus shares and 5% tax on bonus stock will remain unchanged.
Its a proposal from SECP, not a binding upon the government to follow.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on June 04, 2015, 04:17:10 PM
Finance minister Ishaq Dar have pointed out that every sector have to pay tax so I doubt any relief.    will be given by this minister to   the investors
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on June 05, 2015, 12:02:34 PM
Lao SEARLE cap on monday
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: jay on June 05, 2015, 12:04:16 PM
Lao SEARLE cap on monday

is a wish or some thing behind.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 05, 2015, 01:09:18 PM
Heading towards 300
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: online88 on June 05, 2015, 03:17:56 PM
Party will sooon start in this scrip
bought 7.5k and will add more if come down for medium term investment purpose, out from kse trading and now come back after about 20 days
good show :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby:
going good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Omer The Researcher on June 05, 2015, 03:19:10 PM
 :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance great share
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 05, 2015, 03:25:06 PM
Alhamdulillah...it is going good...  :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim:
there will be a buying opportunity post budget...when market is expected to go down by up to 800 points...due to increase in capital gains tax... :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 05, 2015, 04:00:04 PM
CAP HO JA.....IA
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 05, 2015, 04:44:59 PM
Great show today! all set to test 300. :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 05, 2015, 04:47:00 PM
Heading towards 300
any body buy solid tip the
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Aqadeer2014 on June 05, 2015, 04:55:58 PM
Heading towards 300
any body buy solid tip the

yes nadeem bhai, bought today @ 269... what next exit on Monday ya wait for 300....??
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 05, 2015, 04:59:03 PM
Heading towards 300
any body buy solid tip the

yes nadeem bhai, bought today @ 269... what next exit on Monday ya wait for 300....??
market move in both directions nobody predict but if j have a investment horizon of 3 months then 300+ looks possible
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on June 05, 2015, 05:03:37 PM
Heading towards 300
any body buy solid tip the

yes nadeem bhai, bought today @ 269... what next exit on Monday ya wait for 300....??
market move in both directions nobody predict but if j have a investment horizon of 3 months then 300+ looks possible

nadeem bhai Sept - October tak rekhain INSHALLAH 400 to kehain nahi gia  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on June 05, 2015, 07:43:34 PM
Great show today! all set to test 300. :clap1:
monday ko 5rupees down lao :laugh:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on June 05, 2015, 07:53:43 PM
There will be minimum negative impact on pharma sector
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on June 05, 2015, 11:25:48 PM
There will be minimum negative impact on pharma sector

Dude .. Ye bonus tax withdrawal k rumor pe chalraha tha . Iski bhi pitaaye hogy on monday :( Thou  it will recover till 4Q iA
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on June 06, 2015, 02:24:03 AM
Lao SEARLE cap on monday

What will be the affect on SEARL of below development of budget 2016.  SEARL reserves are 400% of it's paid up capital.  Shall we expect heavy bonus as well as handsome dividend from SEARL with year result.   Pls. share your views Zakhan and Nadeem sab

An incremental tax at 10% on corporates which do not distribute cash dividends within six months of the end of a financial year or where the distributable reserves of a company exceed the full amount of paid up capital.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 06, 2015, 11:38:32 AM
Lao SEARLE cap on monday

What will be the affect on SEARL of below development of budget 2016.  SEARL reserves are 400% of it's paid up capital.  Shall we expect heavy bonus as well as handsome dividend from SEARL with year result.   Pls. share your views Zakhan and Nadeem sab

An incremental tax at 10% on corporates which do not distribute cash dividends within six months of the end of a financial year or where the distributable reserves of a company exceed the full amount of paid up capital.

Salam
One thing is sure that it will not cross 300 straight...it is bound to take a dip(s)...the rally on Friday was to offload some quantities by some brokers as they knew there will be increase in CGT and due to which market is likely to take a dip  :fingerscrossed1:

Searle will give cash dividend and there is huge possibility of 50% bonus this year...and then we might see SEARLE going for increase in authorized share capital...Searle is in growth mode and would like to re-invest their profits into business instead of disbursing dividends...
Jazak-Allah Khairen
Overall SEARLE is  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on June 06, 2015, 02:04:06 PM
shorted again at 279
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on June 06, 2015, 03:05:16 PM
shorted again at 279

apki shorting ka tou main fan hogaya hn ! :p
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on June 06, 2015, 06:25:01 PM
Lao SEARLE cap on monday

What will be the affect on SEARL of below development of budget 2016.  SEARL reserves are 400% of it's paid up capital.  Shall we expect heavy bonus as well as handsome dividend from SEARL with year result.   Pls. share your views Zakhan and Nadeem sab

An incremental tax at 10% on corporates which do not distribute cash dividends within six months of the end of a financial year or where the distributable reserves of a company exceed the full amount of paid up capital.

Salam
One thing is sure that it will not cross 300 straight...it is bound to take a dip(s)...the rally on Friday was to offload some quantities by some brokers as they knew there will be increase in CGT and due to which market is likely to take a dip  :fingerscrossed1:

Searle will give cash dividend and there is huge possibility of 50% bonus this year...and then we might see SEARLE going for increase in authorized share capital...Searle is in growth mode and would like to re-invest their profits into business instead of disbursing dividends...
Jazak-Allah Khairen
Overall SEARLE is  :biggthumpup:

Thank you Zakhan sab your your views
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on June 06, 2015, 06:41:53 PM
Lao SEARLE cap on monday

What will be the affect on SEARL of below development of budget 2016.  SEARL reserves are 400% of it's paid up capital.  Shall we expect heavy bonus as well as handsome dividend from SEARL with year result.   Pls. share your views Zakhan and Nadeem sab

An incremental tax at 10% on corporates which do not distribute cash dividends within six months of the end of a financial year or where the distributable reserves of a company exceed the full amount of paid up capital.

Salam
One thing is sure that it will not cross 300 straight...it is bound to take a dip(s)...the rally on Friday was to offload some quantities by some brokers as they knew there will be increase in CGT and due to which market is likely to take a dip  :fingerscrossed1:

Searle will give cash dividend and there is huge possibility of 50% bonus this year...and then we might see SEARLE going for increase in authorized share capital...Searle is in growth mode and would like to re-invest their profits into business instead of disbursing dividends...
Jazak-Allah Khairen
Overall SEARLE is  :biggthumpup:

Thank you Zakhan sab your your views

But the question is that SEARL is having 400% retained earning of it's paid up capital. Will SEARL distribute cash for the amount exceeding 100% of paid up capital OR will be subject 10% tax on additional amount?  this is very intersting scenario and makes invest case more charming in terms of huge dividends
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on June 06, 2015, 07:27:23 PM
Lao SEARLE cap on monday

What will be the affect on SEARL of below development of budget 2016.  SEARL reserves are 400% of it's paid up capital.  Shall we expect heavy bonus as well as handsome dividend from SEARL with year result.   Pls. share your views Zakhan and Nadeem sab

An incremental tax at 10% on corporates which do not distribute cash dividends within six months of the end of a financial year or where the distributable reserves of a company exceed the full amount of paid up capital.

Salam
One thing is sure that it will not cross 300 straight...it is bound to take a dip(s)...the rally on Friday was to offload some quantities by some brokers as they knew there will be increase in CGT and due to which market is likely to take a dip  :fingerscrossed1:

Searle will give cash dividend and there is huge possibility of 50% bonus this year...and then we might see SEARLE going for increase in authorized share capital...Searle is in growth mode and would like to re-invest their profits into business instead of disbursing dividends...
Jazak-Allah Khairen
Overall SEARLE is  :biggthumpup:

Thank you Zakhan sab your your views

But the question is that SEARL is having 400% retained earning of it's paid up capital. Will SEARL distribute cash for the amount exceeding 100% of paid up capital OR will be subject 10% tax on additional amount?  this is very intersting scenario and makes invest case more charming in terms of huge dividends

Company is short of cash and using Running Finance to keep cash and cash equivalents positive so it is highly unlikely for Searl to pay high dividend so possibility of highest bonus issue on the card  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 06, 2015, 07:59:42 PM
Searle will be subject to taxation on reserves only at 2015-16 year end result. So in the meantime they will ensure that they don't end up paying 10% tax on accumulated profits...I think we need somebody to work on all such companies which are holding more than 100 percent reserves... :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 06, 2015, 08:07:32 PM
Buying opportunity if share price falls on Monday ready to break 290 soon
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 06, 2015, 08:16:57 PM
Buying opportunity if share price falls on Monday ready to break 290 soon

Agreed...buying opportunity will be there...if not on Monday...then any other day...insha-Allah..
I am now going to double my holdings in Searle....which will make it 75% of my portfolio...
It is high time and irresistible. :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: online88 on June 06, 2015, 09:06:36 PM
Buying opportunity if share price falls on Monday ready to break 290 soon
fully agreed, seems upward direction
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 06, 2015, 09:09:26 PM
Buying opportunity if share price falls on Monday ready to break 290 soon
fully agreed, seems upward direction
last week one big financial institution buy 1.5 million shares from 265-280 every dips an buying oppurtunity
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on June 06, 2015, 09:18:00 PM
sub saray bullish hoon tabi maal chipakta hai

I will bet against the run of paly
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on June 06, 2015, 09:30:19 PM
Thora sa nechay aaye .. Mujhe bhi bharna hai !!
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on June 06, 2015, 10:15:12 PM
Roughly 180% Bonus Issue to bring the Reserves within non-taxable limits  :tongue:

 :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on June 06, 2015, 10:15:53 PM
that is something to think about
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on June 06, 2015, 11:45:54 PM
that is something to think about

Yes james bhai, INSHALLAH this year heavy Bonus are written on the wall  :rtfm:  :tongue:  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Value-Investor on June 06, 2015, 11:52:59 PM
Roughly 180% Bonus Issue to bring the Reserves within non-taxable limits  :tongue:

 :biggthumpup:

No company will issue this amount of bonus. They will take a stay order against this clause. However, searle will keep on paying its usual bonuses
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on June 07, 2015, 03:27:20 AM
Roughly 180% Bonus Issue to bring the Reserves within non-taxable limits  :tongue:

 :biggthumpup:

No company will issue this amount of bonus. They will take a stay order against this clause. However, searle will keep on paying its usual bonuses

I think all growth oriented companies like SEARL which retain their profits for financing expansion of business will have to capitalize their undistributed profits exceeding 100% of paid up capital.  This will increase issuance of bonus shares in order keep the distributable profits within the limit of 100% of paid up capital.   In case of SEARL heavy bonus seems to be only option because company need cash for expanding operations and cannot pay high dividends. 

 
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 07, 2015, 05:10:53 PM
Good buy above 260 if market index support then easily break 300+
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 07, 2015, 08:54:02 PM
 :rtfm: sirjee cut it short...buy the searle and don't short...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on June 08, 2015, 12:42:17 AM
bhai I am already short so plz thora sabr karain  :laugh:

app kay remote say nahin chalni mkt
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 08, 2015, 12:54:59 AM
bhai I am already short so plz thora sabr karain  :laugh:

app kay remote say nahin chalni mkt

Sir jo aapka hukum...kal market wese bhi red hai... :[
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on June 08, 2015, 01:21:31 AM
bhai I am already short so plz thora sabr karain  :laugh:

app kay remote say nahin chalni mkt

Sir jo aapka hukum...kal market wese bhi red hai... :[

bhai na meri na us ki  :dunno:  mkt to hay unki .i.e. BBs  :(................so what they have already planed, it will move accordingly  :console:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 08, 2015, 11:06:22 AM
All set to cross
If the dividend declaration price is 300 then the following TPs are expected at the given payouts given the expected XB price is 250
Payout   Value add    TP
15%         45           295
20%       60           310
25%       75           325
30%         90           340

Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 08, 2015, 11:34:54 AM
SEARL skyrocketing! :D
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 08, 2015, 11:35:30 AM
bhai I am already short so plz thora sabr karain  :laugh:

app kay remote say nahin chalni mkt
Bond bhai how's the strategy working out :P
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 08, 2015, 11:38:57 AM
Don't short laoo 300+
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 08, 2015, 11:44:43 AM
Resistances are proving like the walls of butter....Closing at UL most likely.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 08, 2015, 11:56:52 AM
Resistances are proving like the walls of butter....Closing at UL most likely.
hasnain sahib pakar isa kahte hey
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: shakil on June 08, 2015, 12:06:16 PM
Nadeem hhai should I take entry now in Searle or wait? I want yo buy for annual result.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: online88 on June 08, 2015, 12:22:25 PM
 :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:non stop flight :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Anees on June 08, 2015, 02:20:52 PM
 :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on June 08, 2015, 02:43:04 PM
cheeta :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Aqadeer2014 on June 08, 2015, 02:47:35 PM
007 bhai short in EFOODS (CAP) PEAL ( Almost CAP) SEARL (CAP) ,

Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: 007 on June 08, 2015, 03:21:10 PM
i covered all shorts when mkt went 800 minus thanks

really unexpected recvovery

I shorted again searl on cap only 1K
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zubair Joya on June 08, 2015, 03:27:14 PM
why it is going up. Any News?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zar Ameen on June 08, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
why it is going up. Any News?

This rally was overdue, particularly, after announcement of super 3rd quarter result but due to weak market sentiment in May, it could not materialized.  Now SEAR is moving towards it's real potential. 
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 08, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
Lo ji ...One more thing learned today. ..Green is Red...In kse
Now we will InshaAllah see 400 plus at results time. :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 08, 2015, 04:02:09 PM
Nadeem hhai should I take entry now in Searle or wait? I want yo buy for annual result.
wait for dip for new buying
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: online88 on June 08, 2015, 04:55:44 PM
Tomorrow I'll make some profit taking in it for re buy in coming days
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on June 08, 2015, 05:09:29 PM
Already calling on different occasion to hold tightly for handsome gains  :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Aqadeer2014 on June 08, 2015, 05:38:27 PM
i covered all shorts when mkt went 800 minus thanks

really unexpected recvovery

I shorted again searl on cap only 1K

007 tussi great ho  :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 08, 2015, 05:49:48 PM
why it is going up. Any News?

This rally was overdue, particularly, after announcement of super 3rd quarter result but due to weak market sentiment in May, it could not materialized.  Now SEAR is moving towards it's real potential.
Had more to do with bumper payout expectations owing to tax on retained earnings....
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on June 08, 2015, 08:02:45 PM
cap kero k me niklo iss me say :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 08, 2015, 09:17:59 PM
Kion Sabir bhai. ..kion
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 09, 2015, 09:50:15 AM
300 babay! :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on June 09, 2015, 12:27:29 PM
cap kero k me niklo iss me say :fingerscrossed1:

sabir bhai hain ya out ho gay hain.............itni jaldi ap ko kion hay, should wait till Sept
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: online88 on June 09, 2015, 03:25:24 PM
Tomorrow I'll make some profit taking in it for re buy in coming days
profit taking at 301 , will buy next week
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on June 09, 2015, 03:34:37 PM
cap kero k me niklo iss me say :fingerscrossed1:

sabir bhai hain ya out ho gay hain.............itni jaldi ap ko kion hay, should wait till Sept
me out...at 303.05....10k buy tha on badla.... :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Fahd on June 09, 2015, 03:42:09 PM
cap kero k me niklo iss me say :fingerscrossed1:

sabir bhai hain ya out ho gay hain.............itni jaldi ap ko kion hay, should wait till Sept
me out...at 303.05....10k buy tha on badla.... :fingerscrossed1:
Which broker is providing badla facility?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 09, 2015, 04:23:48 PM
Don't short laoo 300+
laoo 300+
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 09, 2015, 08:54:48 PM
Don't short laoo 300+
laoo 300+

Sir Searle sell karna hai ya abhi hold karna? agar hold karna hai to TP?
bhai in one week u gain 40 rs from 265-305  do profit taking
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on June 09, 2015, 11:34:49 PM
cap kero k me niklo iss me say :fingerscrossed1:

sabir bhai hain ya out ho gay hain.............itni jaldi ap ko kion hay, should wait till Sept
me out...at 303.05....10k buy tha on badla.... :fingerscrossed1:
Which broker is providing badla facility?

jsglobal azee pearl AHL
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 11, 2015, 03:26:34 PM
Anybody has information regarding leasing of their investment property??
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 11, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
Good buy in between 280-290 in small chunks
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 11, 2015, 04:19:19 PM
Support coming at 290 but this can't be trusted because this support is coming in very green market.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: online88 on June 11, 2015, 07:35:57 PM
Good buy in between 280-290 in small chunks
sold at 301 2 days earlier now waiting for re-entry
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 11, 2015, 09:11:17 PM
Next rally...330 insha-Allah..
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on June 12, 2015, 11:00:09 AM
Next rally...330 insha-Allah..
::) yes it seems
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on June 12, 2015, 04:32:22 PM
SEARL is sooo sweet gives everyone a lot of chances to lower purchase price :tongue:
Today Sold at 299 and now Bought at 293  ::) Hopeful for a similar movement on Monday  :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 13, 2015, 11:55:45 AM
SEARL is sooo sweet gives everyone a lot of chances to lower purchase price :tongue:
Today Sold at 299 and now Bought at 293  ::) Hopeful for a similar movement on Monday  :good

Next week...Allah Malik hai...400 cross kare ga..insha-Allah.. :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: dr.muhammad zia on June 13, 2015, 02:50:18 PM
SEARL is sooo sweet gives everyone a lot of chances to lower purchase price :tongue:
Today Sold at 299 and now Bought at 293  ::) Hopeful for a similar movement on Monday  :good

Next week...Allah Malik hai...400 cross kare ga..insha-Allah.. :biggthumpup:

in 1 week it will cross 400 :rtfm:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on June 13, 2015, 10:24:59 PM
SEARL is sooo sweet gives everyone a lot of chances to lower purchase price :tongue:
Today Sold at 299 and now Bought at 293  ::) Hopeful for a similar movement on Monday  :good

Next week...Allah Malik hai...400 cross kare ga..insha-Allah.. :biggthumpup:

in 1 week it will cross 400 :rtfm:

 :[ 1 week = 5 trading session  :[
How can a share appreciate 36.5% in 5 trading sessions  uuu
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zamid on June 13, 2015, 10:36:32 PM
SEARL is sooo sweet gives everyone a lot of chances to lower purchase price :tongue:
Today Sold at 299 and now Bought at 293  ::) Hopeful for a similar movement on Monday  :good

Next week...Allah Malik hai...400 cross kare ga..insha-Allah.. :biggthumpup:

in 1 week it will cross 400 :rtfm:

 :[ 1 week = 5 trading session  :[
How can a share appreciate 36.5% in 5 trading sessions  uuu
pora week upper lock bhi laga dy tb bhi 400 nahi hona wala....  uuu
293.09 * 5% = 14.65 + 293.09 = 307.75
307.75 * 5% = 15.40 + 307.75 = 323.15
323.15 * 5% = 16.15 + 323.15 = 339.30
339.30 * 5% = 16.96 + 339.30 = 356.25
356.25 * 5% = 17.80 + 356.25 = 374.06         
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: dr.muhammad zia on June 13, 2015, 11:32:04 PM
SEARL is sooo sweet gives everyone a lot of chances to lower purchase price :tongue:
Today Sold at 299 and now Bought at 293  ::) Hopeful for a similar movement on Monday  :good

Next week...Allah Malik hai...400 cross kare ga..insha-Allah.. :biggthumpup:

in 1 week it will cross 400 :rtfm:

 :[ 1 week = 5 trading session  :[
How can a share appreciate 36.5% in 5 trading sessions  uuu
pora week upper lock bhi laga dy tb bhi 400 nahi hona wala....  uuu
293.09 * 5% = 14.65 + 293.09 = 307.75
307.75 * 5% = 15.40 + 307.75 = 323.15
323.15 * 5% = 16.15 + 323.15 = 339.30
339.30 * 5% = 16.96 + 339.30 = 356.25
356.25 * 5% = 17.80 + 356.25 = 374.06         

lolzzz uuu
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 13, 2015, 11:34:15 PM
Hahaha...let's not be over critical...here..
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: dr.muhammad zia on June 13, 2015, 11:55:45 PM
Hahaha...let's not be over critical...here..

we are just joking.mkt teiz hogae ..pakistani bhi teiz hogaye hai.....it has potentia to cross 400 but it will take time ..
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on June 14, 2015, 01:32:07 AM
Hahaha...let's not be over critical...here..

we are just joking.mkt teiz hogae ..pakistani bhi teiz hogaye hai.....it has potentia to cross 400 but it will take time ..

Agreed Bro. BTW ZAKHAN76 bhai aap k mun main ghee shakkar agar yeh waqea aik month mai be 400 cross kar jaey to maza aa jaey  :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ksenewb on June 14, 2015, 02:50:45 PM
SEARL is sooo sweet gives everyone a lot of chances to lower purchase price :tongue:
Today Sold at 299 and now Bought at 293  ::) Hopeful for a similar movement on Monday  :good

Next week...Allah Malik hai...400 cross kare ga..insha-Allah.. :biggthumpup:

in 1 week it will cross 400 :rtfm:

 :[ 1 week = 5 trading session  :[
How can a share appreciate 36.5% in 5 trading sessions  uuu
pora week upper lock bhi laga dy tb bhi 400 nahi hona wala....  uuu
293.09 * 5% = 14.65 + 293.09 = 307.75
307.75 * 5% = 15.40 + 307.75 = 323.15
323.15 * 5% = 16.15 + 323.15 = 339.30
339.30 * 5% = 16.96 + 339.30 = 356.25
356.25 * 5% = 17.80 + 356.25 = 374.06         

itni bari calculation ki kia zarurat thi... 293.09*(1.05^5) = 374.06  :biggthumpup:  :tongue:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 16, 2015, 11:52:02 AM
Good performance so far :s1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: The_Dot on June 16, 2015, 12:07:37 PM
heading towards Cap, I think
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: patient_invester on June 16, 2015, 12:23:22 PM
Bhaiyon please guide... is it good to buy at the current price? Or should I wait for any possible dips which I think looks difficult.

Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 16, 2015, 12:29:17 PM
Bhaiyon please guide... is it good to buy at the current price? Or should I wait for any possible dips which I think looks difficult.
Naam patient investor aur buy karnay ki jaldi :ohmy:
Wait for Ramzan, it would be available somewhere around 275-280.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: patient_invester on June 16, 2015, 12:55:18 PM
Thanks hasnain bhai.... I'm indeed a patient investor with no rush... just asking as the scrip looks good and have considerable funds handy  ;)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on June 16, 2015, 01:05:30 PM
Bhaiyon please guide... is it good to buy at the current price? Or should I wait for any possible dips which I think looks difficult.
Naam patient investor aur buy karnay ki jaldi :ohmy:
Wait for Ramzan, it would be available somewhere around 275-280.
Bhai yahan 400 karwanay walay b mojood hai  :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 16, 2015, 02:54:38 PM
Bhaiyon please guide... is it good to buy at the current price? Or should I wait for any possible dips which I think looks difficult.
Naam patient investor aur buy karnay ki jaldi :ohmy:
Wait for Ramzan, it would be available somewhere around 275-280.
Bhai yahan 400 karwanay walay b mojood hai  :good
Bhai sahib ko scrip price ma 200-300 Rs dal kay TP bananay ke adat hay.......
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: tac786 on June 16, 2015, 03:18:30 PM
Bhaiyon please guide... is it good to buy at the current price? Or should I wait for any possible dips which I think looks difficult.
Naam patient investor aur buy karnay ki jaldi :ohmy:
Wait for Ramzan, it would be available somewhere around 275-280.
Bhai yahan 400 karwanay walay b mojood hai  :good
bhai ise choro or iblhl le lo jitne contety soche hain is ki us ki double iblhl ki aa jaye gi aaj ka price 113 hai or ise 140 jana hi jana hain jitna gain seral ka socha hain is main le kar  :dance or phir seral ka ek problem future main hain jahn up ho ga wahn short bhi pary ge  :bangin: to behtr hain ka  huhu is se acha iblhl le kar  :lazy2: or jab ye 140 ho jae tab  :dance :clap1:  :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zamid on June 16, 2015, 03:34:30 PM
Bhaiyon please guide... is it good to buy at the current price? Or should I wait for any possible dips which I think looks difficult.
Naam patient investor aur buy karnay ki jaldi :ohmy:
Wait for Ramzan, it would be available somewhere around 275-280.
Bhai yahan 400 karwanay walay b mojood hai  :good
400 in a week  uuu  :tongue:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 16, 2015, 04:12:22 PM
Quality buying seen in negative market its important for Searle to close above 301.25 on closing basis which confirms break of all time high of this month now short term next target 310-315
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on June 16, 2015, 10:56:37 PM
Seems to break the previous high Rs.304.90 shortly  :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on June 16, 2015, 11:09:43 PM
Jinho ne 290 per nahi lya..ab wo zara muu dekhen  :tongue: Its show time
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 16, 2015, 11:12:03 PM
Before the start of MANDI in market...'pre-results' snooze...
SEARLE should reach 330 mark...insha-Allah...
Some very strong support is there at 290..which didn't let it fall below 290...rather pushed it towards 300
Now those who shorted at 300-307 might buy again...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on June 16, 2015, 11:17:19 PM
Before the start of MANDI in market...'pre-results' snooze...
SEARLE should reach 330 mark...insha-Allah...
Some very strong support is there at 290..which didn't let it fall below 290...rather pushed it towards 300
Now those who shorted at 300-307 might buy again...

There wont be any major mandi in market baring some corrections assuming all other factors remains constant
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 16, 2015, 11:18:05 PM
Just wait and watch...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Zamid on June 17, 2015, 09:49:02 AM
Khappy Khappy
Cap Khappy  :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on June 17, 2015, 03:36:09 PM
Quality buying seen in negative market its important for Searle to close above 301.25 on closing basis which confirms break of all time high of this month now short term next target 310-315

Ji Nadeem Bhai next  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 17, 2015, 07:46:07 PM
Quality buying seen in negative market its important for Searle to close above 301.25 on closing basis which confirms break of all time high of this month now short term next target 310-315

Ji Nadeem Bhai next  :fingerscrossed1:
hold
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on June 17, 2015, 10:35:31 PM
Pharma sector sickened by budgetary proposals

A local pharmaceutical company is investing Rs30 billion in capital projects and 70% of it will be on plant and machinery.
The budget always draws a mixed reaction. This year, like most sectors, the pharmaceutical industry too, has shown its displeasure over government’s policies.
Members of the Pakistan Business Council (PBC) have approached the government to convey their woes.
“Every budget, the only manufacturing sector that’s protected and rewarded is the textile sector,” said the summary. “All other sectors are ignored.

“The pharmaceutical sector is not allowed to adjust GST, which adds about 10% to the total manufacturing cost,” said an official.
“The agriculture sector’s input cost, plus their capital equipment and facilities, have received a complete waiver of GST in the recent budget. Their minimum duty on imports has been reduced from 5% to 2%,” said the official, adding that these measures have been introduced to facilitate the sector despite the fact that it contributes only 1% to the country’s direct tax collection.
While the meat export sector has been completely exempted from income tax, the pharmaceutical industries’ duty on import of equipment has been increased from 5% to 10%, he further lamented.
“The budget has also proposed a number of changes to the market/corporate taxation regime which will have a negative Impact on manufacturing companies that are already heavy taxpayers,” he added.
He said the change in Capital Gain Tax (CGT) and dividend tax regime will have a long term negative impact on the corporate sector. ‘’For example, a proposal to charge 10% tax on reserves exceeding 100% of the paid up capital of profitable companies that do not distribute cash dividends will carry a negative impact.”
Similarly, he said, the imposition of a one-time super tax for the rehabilitation of temporary displaced persons (4% for banks and 3% for other companies where a company’s earnings for a tax year exceed Rs500 million) is not justified.
‘‘Minimum GST on plant and machinery has been raised from 5% to 10%, which will cause an increased expense and will encourage imports,’’ reasoned the source.
He explained that this increase will render pharmaceutical companies’ products uncompetitive. ‘’A local pharmaceutical company is investing Rs30 billion in capital projects, and 70% of it will be on plant and machinery. Therefore, their cost will increase by Rs1.05 billion. This was not planned and it would now make their project unviable,’’ he said.
‘‘In the budget, it looks as if due consideration is given to non-filers of income tax who can get the waiver by just paying minimum levies which will ultimately be passed on to the manufacturing sector. It will increase the cost of doing the business,’’ said source.
He further stated that undue advantage is given to the construction sector on the pretext that “it will increase employment” which implies that the manufacturing sector does not increase employment.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 18, 2015, 05:14:59 AM
Pharma sector sickened by budgetary proposals

A local pharmaceutical company is investing Rs30 billion in capital projects and 70% of it will be on plant and machinery.
The budget always draws a mixed reaction. This year, like most sectors, the pharmaceutical industry too, has shown its displeasure over government’s policies.
Members of the Pakistan Business Council (PBC) have approached the government to convey their woes.
“Every budget, the only manufacturing sector that’s protected and rewarded is the textile sector,” said the summary. “All other sectors are ignored.

“The pharmaceutical sector is not allowed to adjust GST, which adds about 10% to the total manufacturing cost,” said an official.
“The agriculture sector’s input cost, plus their capital equipment and facilities, have received a complete waiver of GST in the recent budget. Their minimum duty on imports has been reduced from 5% to 2%,” said the official, adding that these measures have been introduced to facilitate the sector despite the fact that it contributes only 1% to the country’s direct tax collection.
While the meat export sector has been completely exempted from income tax, the pharmaceutical industries’ duty on import of equipment has been increased from 5% to 10%, he further lamented.
“The budget has also proposed a number of changes to the market/corporate taxation regime which will have a negative Impact on manufacturing companies that are already heavy taxpayers,” he added.
He said the change in Capital Gain Tax (CGT) and dividend tax regime will have a long term negative impact on the corporate sector. ‘’For example, a proposal to charge 10% tax on reserves exceeding 100% of the paid up capital of profitable companies that do not distribute cash dividends will carry a negative impact.”
Similarly, he said, the imposition of a one-time super tax for the rehabilitation of temporary displaced persons (4% for banks and 3% for other companies where a company’s earnings for a tax year exceed Rs500 million) is not justified.
‘‘Minimum GST on plant and machinery has been raised from 5% to 10%, which will cause an increased expense and will encourage imports,’’ reasoned the source.
He explained that this increase will render pharmaceutical companies’ products uncompetitive. ‘’A local pharmaceutical company is investing Rs30 billion in capital projects, and 70% of it will be on plant and machinery. Therefore, their cost will increase by Rs1.05 billion. This was not planned and it would now make their project unviable,’’ he said.
‘‘In the budget, it looks as if due consideration is given to non-filers of income tax who can get the waiver by just paying minimum levies which will ultimately be passed on to the manufacturing sector. It will increase the cost of doing the business,’’ said source.
He further stated that undue advantage is given to the construction sector on the pretext that “it will increase” which implies that the manufacturing sector does not increase employment.


A foul cry... despite no attention and facilitation provided to POOR PHARMA sector their profits increased and EPS jumped significantly.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 18, 2015, 12:19:23 PM
 :biggthumpup: :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on June 18, 2015, 12:40:49 PM
Star performer of the stock  :dance :dance :dance sorry for those friends who missed the train  :skeptic: :skeptic: :skeptic:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 18, 2015, 01:35:38 PM
Quality buying seen in negative market its important for Searle to close above 301.25 on closing basis which confirms break of all time high of this month now short term next target 310-315
laoo 315
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 18, 2015, 02:51:12 PM
Nadeem bhai. Assalam-o-Alekum
Please share your views on Engro Corp.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 18, 2015, 03:20:28 PM
Al-Maaza agya Ya-Habibi  :D
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 18, 2015, 04:11:54 PM
Nadeem bhai. Assalam-o-Alekum
Please share your views on Engro Corp.
walekum salam engro looks 340 till sep-oct
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on June 18, 2015, 04:26:23 PM
Quality buying seen in negative market its important for Searle to close above 301.25 on closing basis which confirms break of all time high of this month now short term next target 310-315
laoo 315

Aur Nadeem bhai ab???  :good

 :thanks:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 18, 2015, 04:30:23 PM
Quality buying seen in negative market its important for Searle to close above 301.25 on closing basis which confirms break of all time high of this month now short term next target 310-315
laoo 315

Aur Nadeem bhai ab???  :good

 :thanks:
hold
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Aqadeer2014 on June 18, 2015, 04:35:30 PM
Quality buying seen in negative market its important for Searle to close above 301.25 on closing basis which confirms break of all time high of this month now short term next target 310-315
laoo 315

Aur Nadeem bhai ab???  :good

 :thanks:
hold

buying bante hai 315 pe ? ya janay deen
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 18, 2015, 06:39:02 PM
Quality buying seen in negative market its important for Searle to close above 301.25 on closing basis which confirms break of all time high of this month now short term next target 310-315
laoo 315
Wait
Aur Nadeem bhai ab???  :good

 :thanks:
hold

buying bante hai 315 pe ? ya janay deen
wait for correction before fresh entry
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 18, 2015, 06:43:00 PM
Short term next target 330-340
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: ali165 on June 18, 2015, 07:41:37 PM
hum correction ka wait he kerty reh gay....Nadeem bhai glaxo is rate per kaisa hai?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 18, 2015, 08:07:58 PM
Glaxo is good but I think high noon is much better option for investment not for trading
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on June 18, 2015, 08:13:10 PM
I agree with bro Nadeem  though Glaxo is multinational company but profitability wise Highnoon is better
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on June 18, 2015, 08:17:44 PM
Short term next target 330-340

Nadeen bhai is ka karna kya hai waisay :thumbsup_anim:
I mean 330-340 per sale ya just Hold till results
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 18, 2015, 08:39:55 PM
If u r holding capacity till Aug then hold but till then share price ups and down hold patiently toll result if u r short term trader then do profit taking when u get decent return
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on June 19, 2015, 08:24:30 AM
Mazeed Laaooo  :biggthumpup:

Tax on Reserves NOT Withdrawn by Dar.....

Now the Companies will be given two options
either distribute 40% of profit or 50% of paid up share capital

Means a handsome payout on the cards  :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 19, 2015, 09:21:44 AM
Mazeed Laaooo  :biggthumpup:

Tax on Reserves NOT Withdrawn by Dar.....

Now the Companies will be given two options
either distribute 40% of profit or 50% of paid up share capital

Means a handsome payout on the cards  :good
50% of paidup capital? that would mean companies would need to raise authorized capital every second year
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on June 19, 2015, 09:52:08 AM
Mazeed Laaooo  :biggthumpup:

Tax on Reserves NOT Withdrawn by Dar.....

Now the Companies will be given two options
either distribute 40% of profit or 50% of paid up share capital

Means a handsome payout on the cards  :good

50% of paidup capital? that would mean companies would need to raise authorized capital every second year

Should wait for details..........
I think it would be lower of 40% Profit or 50% of Paid up Share
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 19, 2015, 03:36:42 PM
When dip comes...just accumulate...because due to new policy wrt reserves...SEARLE will announce (InshAllah) maximum bonus this year... :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hammad01 on June 19, 2015, 05:59:00 PM
When dip comes...just accumulate...because due to new policy wrt reserves...SEARLE will announce (InshAllah) maximum bonus this year... :good
Zakhan after clarification from Dar what is your rough calculation regarding bonus and dividend to avoid 10% tax
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: hasnain0099 on June 19, 2015, 06:59:35 PM
When dip comes...just accumulate...because due to new policy wrt reserves...SEARLE will announce (InshAllah) maximum bonus this year... :good
Or they could just announce a dividend of 8 Rs (40% of expected eps at 20)
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 21, 2015, 01:09:44 AM
SEARLE needs cash to invest in business and further to provide support to subsidiaries and associated companies..it meets its working capital requirements through short term finances...please read their 3Q FS :rtfm:
A company which is in growth mode would like to re-invest instead of giving cash to shareholders...
My personal view is maximum bonus will come.. same goes for other companies having huge reserve balances...
A cash dividend of Rs 8 per share would requires cash of 686M...not an option ... uuu
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on June 21, 2015, 01:35:03 AM
A cash dividend of Rs 8 per share would requires cash of 686M...not an option ...
What do you think the minimum bonus could be?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 21, 2015, 02:15:23 AM
Suppose the annual EPS is 20 then profit would be RS 1.7 billion
40% of 1.7 billion is Rs 680M
Difference b/w authorized and paid up capital is 541M which means 60% bonus is possible.
Remaining amount is RS 139M which could be cash dividend ~ Rs 2 or 20%.
Jazak-Allah Khair...
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on June 21, 2015, 02:43:31 AM
Difference b/w authorized and paid up capital is 541M which means 60% bonus is possible.
Remaining amount is RS 139M which could be cash dividend ~ Rs 2 or 20%.
Thank you for that info. If that does happen, SEARL price should rocket into space. Lets pray that it does  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Dehan on June 21, 2015, 12:54:47 PM
Difference b/w authorized and paid up capital is 541M which means 60% bonus is possible.
Remaining amount is RS 139M which could be cash dividend ~ Rs 2 or 20%.
Thank you for that info. If that does happen, SEARL price should rocket into space. Lets pray that it does  :fingerscrossed1:
Final Rule is: The Reserve Tax shall not be applicable to the company having huge reserves(what is huge yet to be clarified lets assume that huge mean reserves more than paid up capital) who shall pay at least 40% of the profit or 50% of the paid up capital whichever is less.

So a company having Rs.10 face value per share if have EPS below Rs. 12.5 will have to pay 40% of its profit and in case of EPS above than Rs. 12.5 will have to pay Rs. 5 per share (10 x 50% = Rs. 5) at least to avoid this tax. This payout may be in form of cash, Bonus or rights. For rights % will be less as it will have double impact.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Malik1 on June 21, 2015, 01:57:09 PM
Difference b/w authorized and paid up capital is 541M which means 60% bonus is possible.
Remaining amount is RS 139M which could be cash dividend ~ Rs 2 or 20%.
Thank you for that info. If that does happen, SEARL price should rocket into space. Lets pray that it does  :fingerscrossed1:
Final Rule is: The Reserve Tax shall not be applicable to the company having huge reserves(what is huge yet to be clarified lets assume that huge mean reserves more than paid up capital) who shall pay at least 40% of the profit or 50% of the paid up capital whichever is less.

So a company having Rs.10 face value per share if have EPS below Rs. 12.5 will have to pay 40% of its profit and in case of EPS above than Rs. 12.5 will have to pay Rs. 5 per share (10 x 50% = Rs. 5) at least to avoid this tax. This payout may be in form of cash, Bonus or rights. For rights % will be less as it will have double impact.

Good  Dehan  :thanks:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SAM71 on June 21, 2015, 04:33:21 PM
As per my understanding, under the rule a company will be required to pay a 50% dividend or bonus or (dividend+bonus) or a minimum 40% of eps in the shape of (dividend or bonus or bonus+dividend) which ever is lower.

For eg: if the eps of company is Rs. 5 it will be required to pay a dividend of Rs. 2 in the shape of 20% bonus or 20% dividend or 10% bonus+ 10% cash.

If eps of company is 10, the company will be required to pay 40% cash or 40% bonus or 10%bonus+30% cash or any other combination

If eps of the company is 12.5 or more, the company will be required to pay a minimum 50% cash or 50 bonus or 20 %bonus+30% cash etc

Rights is not deemed as dividend
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: dr.muhammad zia on June 21, 2015, 06:53:49 PM
As per my understanding, under the rule a company will be required to pay a 50% dividend or bonus or (dividend+bonus) or a minimum 40% of eps in the shape of (dividend or bonus or bonus+dividend) which ever is lower.

For eg: if the eps of company is Rs. 5 it will be required to pay a dividend of Rs. 2 in the shape of 20% bonus or 20% dividend or 10% bonus+ 10% cash.

If eps of company is 10, the company will be required to pay 40% cash or 40% bonus or 10%bonus+30% cash or any other combination

dimagh ghoom gaya bahi  :dunno: :( :[ :rtfm:

If eps of the company is 12.5 or more, the company will be required to pay a minimum 50% cash or 50 bonus or 20 %bonus+30% cash etc

Rights is not deemed as dividend
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Dehan on June 21, 2015, 07:54:24 PM
As per my understanding, under the rule a company will be required to pay a 50% dividend or bonus or (dividend+bonus) or a minimum 40% of eps in the shape of (dividend or bonus or bonus+dividend) which ever is lower.

For eg: if the eps of company is Rs. 5 it will be required to pay a dividend of Rs. 2 in the shape of 20% bonus or 20% dividend or 10% bonus+ 10% cash.

If eps of company is 10, the company will be required to pay 40% cash or 40% bonus or 10%bonus+30% cash or any other combination

dimagh ghoom gaya bahi  :dunno: :( :[ :rtfm:

If eps of the company is 12.5 or more, the company will be required to pay a minimum 50% cash or 50 bonus or 20 %bonus+30% cash etc

Rights is not deemed as dividend
Rights r part of payout which have double impact. It increases the paid up capital on the one hand and reduces the Revenue Reserves on the hand.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: alidxb on June 22, 2015, 09:29:32 AM
As per my understanding, under the rule a company will be required to pay a 50% dividend or bonus or (dividend+bonus) or a minimum 40% of eps in the shape of (dividend or bonus or bonus+dividend) which ever is lower.

For eg: if the eps of company is Rs. 5 it will be required to pay a dividend of Rs. 2 in the shape of 20% bonus or 20% dividend or 10% bonus+ 10% cash.

If eps of company is 10, the company will be required to pay 40% cash or 40% bonus or 10%bonus+30% cash or any other combination

dimagh ghoom gaya bahi  :dunno: :( :[ :rtfm:

If eps of the company is 12.5 or more, the company will be required to pay a minimum 50% cash or 50 bonus or 20 %bonus+30% cash etc

Rights is not deemed as dividend
Rights r part of payout which have double impact. It increases the paid up capital on the one hand and reduces the Revenue Reserves on the hand.
Sorry Dehan Bhai; this is incorrect. May I explain pls. Right issue is not a payout. Yes!! it incrases paid up capital but not reduces Revenue Reserve if issued at Par. If Right issued at premium; it increases both Capital & Capital Reserve.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on June 22, 2015, 01:27:13 PM
Baqi sab choro yaar SEARL ko daikho......  :shoaby:

ma-sha-Allah
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on June 22, 2015, 02:15:34 PM
SEARL Expree train running fast  :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Omer The Researcher on June 22, 2015, 03:05:23 PM
one of the best share  :shoaby: :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on June 22, 2015, 03:21:02 PM
one of the best share  :shoaby: :shoaby:

bhai hum to pichlay sal say hi is kay deewanay ho chukhay hain  :tongue:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: drcampk on June 22, 2015, 03:32:34 PM
Any short term TP??
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on June 22, 2015, 08:33:28 PM
Any short term TP??
kal ka apna tgt hay Rupees 332/- I.A :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 22, 2015, 10:48:02 PM
Short term next target 330-340
Due to aggressive buying by foreigners even in -450 point mandi intra day touch 325.80 now next target is 350 good to see intra day correction today public are mostly out and we may see sharp upward movement if market index support even of +100 to +150 point
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on June 23, 2015, 09:36:32 AM
Any short term TP??
kal ka apna tgt hay Rupees 332/- I.A :biggthumpup:

Hit that 332 in 1st attempt lets see sustainability  :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: drcampk on June 23, 2015, 10:23:17 AM
Any short term TP??
kal ka apna tgt hay Rupees 332/- I.A :biggthumpup:
:shoaby: :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 23, 2015, 06:01:51 PM
Good show today also
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: BlueClub on June 23, 2015, 10:50:33 PM
Trying to move up, but can't for some reason  :dunno:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on June 24, 2015, 05:54:54 AM
Any short term TP??
kal ka apna tgt hay Rupees 332/- I.A :biggthumpup:
ab thora correct kero

Hit that 332 in 1st attempt lets see sustainability  :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: drcampk on June 24, 2015, 10:18:30 AM
Correction Day for Searl?
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on June 24, 2015, 02:09:00 PM
Market Down thi to SEARL was rocking...
Market green hui to SEARL down....
Kya yeh khula tazaad nahi  :tongue:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on June 24, 2015, 02:34:59 PM
Searle is taking rest for upward journey to above Rs.350/-plus in coming days
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 24, 2015, 05:54:34 PM
I see Masha-Allah people who are holding SEARLE enjoying its ride... :tongue:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on June 24, 2015, 08:31:59 PM
Tightly holding SEARLE since April 2015  :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on June 26, 2015, 11:48:58 AM
332 se 317 kafi correct nahi ho gaya  :$:

Its time to sell or hold???  :confused1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on June 26, 2015, 12:54:07 PM
332 se 317 kafi correct nahi ho gaya  :$:

Its time to sell or hold???  :confused1:

bhai gold ko hold hi kerna chahiay
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on June 26, 2015, 12:59:11 PM
332 se 317 kafi correct nahi ho gaya  :$:

Its time to sell or hold???  :confused1:

bhai gold ko hold hi kerna chahiay
if mandi persisits, tou ye gold b milay ga 250 per :laugh:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 26, 2015, 01:27:47 PM
332 se 317 kafi correct nahi ho gaya  :$:

Its time to sell or hold???  :confused1:

bhai gold ko hold hi kerna chahiay
if mandi persisits, tou ye gold b milay ga 250 per :laugh:

250....EID pe miley ga....
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: dr.muhammad zia on June 26, 2015, 02:39:23 PM
332 se 317 kafi correct nahi ho gaya  :$:

Its time to sell or hold???  :confused1:

bhai gold ko hold hi kerna chahiay
if mandi persisits, tou ye gold b milay ga 250 per :laugh:

250....EID pe miley ga....
290-300 par straight buy hai
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: jay on June 26, 2015, 02:56:17 PM
my opinion is to hold it can recover easily. this is strong share not satta type item. further think ur self.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on June 26, 2015, 03:10:15 PM
Yes a sound share and it will recover sharply , as soon as the dust settled.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on June 30, 2015, 02:01:21 PM
Yaar yeh tou bilkul hi lul ho gaya hai  :$:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on June 30, 2015, 02:06:24 PM
Yaar yeh tou bilkul hi lul ho gaya hai  :$:

my assumption...at the end of july around 350, in august 375, in September 450 INSHALLAH with 30-50% bonus shares
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: salmankaramat on June 30, 2015, 02:46:47 PM
Loto bhai nay Loot daal di hai, i am a huge fan of this share, its a gem and hope it will perform according to your expectations Loto bhai.
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SAM71 on June 30, 2015, 02:55:46 PM
Yaar yeh tou bilkul hi lul ho gaya hai  :$:

my assumption...at the end of july around 350, in august 375, in September 450 INSHALLAH with 30-50% bonus shares

Fully agreed. :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on June 30, 2015, 03:16:19 PM
I think it can cross Rs.350, in July  :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 30, 2015, 04:28:57 PM
Upon announcement of results it will cross 400...and if the market happens to be bullish then 500  :fingerscrossed1:
 :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on June 30, 2015, 04:51:39 PM
It is financially strong, the nine months growth of profit is on high side as compared to last nine months, so it has the potentials to reach Rs.500, target Inshallah  :shoaby:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: afzalch on July 02, 2015, 10:16:19 AM
Lion is again roaring and looks for upper lock   :dance :dance:dance
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SBM on July 03, 2015, 12:12:54 PM
As general understanding a bonus is taken as k Company issues bonus when they are sure that they will be able to sustain current EPS despite increase in number of shares coz of bonus issue. Increasing equity from retained earnings means something favorable ahead. Therefore, instead of above debate we should focus whether the Company can maintain EPS???  :thanks:

Laooo phir SEARL 300 inshaAllah  :thumbsup_anim:

Agreed & yes they can.
 :thumbsup_anim:

1) directors are optimistic about the company's future hence they have declared 40% bonus and no cash as they look to reinvest earnings back.
2) company's stock price  will recover from 40% bonus within 6-12 months.
3) all other discussion is irrelevant.

company's stock price  will recover from 40% bonus within 6-12 months??? :o Do u have empirical evidence on that???

Maybe. You can always check back in 12 months time.
It closed at 255 on 24th sept, the day it announced the 40% bonus.
@ 255 market cap was 15.635 billion
You should expect market cap of 21-22 billion this time next year

* in my earlier post I said it will recover from the 40% from xd price, that one is more aggressive, but 40% increase in market cap is probably a more technically sound projection ..





Most of small float sahres run on inside info only & basis of fundamentals is not observed. Searle run up is also a classic recent example of use of inside information by vested group of people. It was 172 on Sep 01 & 265 on Sep 25. What could happen in 25 days in Co's fundamentals?; Nothing can change in fundamentals that justifies Rs. 54% growth in 25 days only; & 47% growth is got before the notice of Bonus to general public; only one do happen; manupilation under the mighty force of  "INSIDE INFO" by well connected people. Janta ride the bandbagon & hurt itself.
Just remember what I said above & now see its nosedive till it reaches it real value; avoid buying as it will crash daily.

Sold 25% today.
It didnt take that long to get that appreciation, eh ?
  :biggthumpup:
 :console: for the naysayers

 :laugh:

original buy was at 174 (124 adj for bonus)  in may 2014  :tongue:

Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on July 03, 2015, 12:40:43 PM
 :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on July 03, 2015, 12:48:04 PM
So finally it didn't come to the level of 290-300... uuu
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Capricon83 on July 03, 2015, 01:02:09 PM
Yeh cheez  :dance :dance :dance

Alhumdulillah  :D
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: mahnoor on July 03, 2015, 01:16:54 PM
Sbm  bhai ya ap ko short term main khaha tk lagta hy
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: SAM71 on July 03, 2015, 01:31:32 PM
Yaar yeh tou bilkul hi lul ho gaya hai  :$:

my assumption...at the end of july around 350, in august 375, in September 450 INSHALLAH with 30-50% bonus shares

Fully agreed. :biggthumpup:
:biggthumpup: :good
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Cheetah on July 03, 2015, 01:50:54 PM
Jinho ne 290 per nahi lya..ab wo zara muu dekhen  :tongue: Its show time

:$
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on July 03, 2015, 02:02:02 PM
Yaar yeh tou bilkul hi lul ho gaya hai  :$:

my assumption...at the end of july around 350, in august 375, in September 450 INSHALLAH with 30-50% bonus shares

Fully agreed. :biggthumpup:
:biggthumpup: :good

MASHALLAH
Title: Re: SEARL -- The Searle Company Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on July 03, 2015, 02:06:03 PM