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Title: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on November 12, 2012, 04:59:17 PM
http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=038664

this news f**ked DH as well as  engro also  :o
shit yaar, logon ko pagal bana rahi hay yeh hakoomat, kabhi kuch faisla kartay hain or kabhi kuch, kabhi kehtay hain 75 mmc dainay ki baat kartay hain or kabhi munkar ho jaatay hain, kia fazool si hakoomat hay

jaisay voters waisee hukoomat ;)
@space bhai, hum nay in manhoosoon ko vote nahi dia tha , or na aainda dain gay
bhai app minority hain (unfortunately) app kay vote ki kimat eek plate biryani nahee, I am talking about the rest of the 90% voting awam :D
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: PK on November 12, 2012, 05:12:59 PM
http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=038664

this news f**ked DH as well as  engro also  :o
shit yaar, logon ko pagal bana rahi hay yeh hakoomat, kabhi kuch faisla kartay hain or kabhi kuch, kabhi kehtay hain 75 mmc dainay ki baat kartay hain or kabhi munkar ho jaatay hain, kia fazool si hakoomat hay

jaisay voters waisee hukoomat ;)
@space bhai, hum nay in manhoosoon ko vote nahi dia tha , or na aainda dain gay
bhai app minority hain (unfortunately) app kay vote ki kimat eek plate biryani nahee, I am talking about the rest of the 90% voting awam :D
Vote deta kon hai bhai yeha pakistan mein vote dalnay jao to pata chalta hai sab pehele se hogaya hai .. :) bandukay vote leti polling stations mein toh
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: syed on November 12, 2012, 05:20:00 PM
http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=038664

this news f**ked DH as well as  engro also  :o
shit yaar, logon ko pagal bana rahi hay yeh hakoomat, kabhi kuch faisla kartay hain or kabhi kuch, kabhi kehtay hain 75 mmc dainay ki baat kartay hain or kabhi munkar ho jaatay hain, kia fazool si hakoomat hay

jaisay voters waisee hukoomat ;)
@space bhai, hum nay in manhoosoon ko vote nahi dia tha , or na aainda dain gay
bhai app minority hain (unfortunately) app kay vote ki kimat eek plate biryani nahee, I am talking about the rest of the 90% voting awam :D
Vote deta kon hai bhai yeha pakistan mein vote dalnay jao to pata chalta hai sab pehele se hogaya hai .. :) bandukay vote leti polling stations mein toh
or ab pata hay k yeh ppp waalay kia kr rahay hain , ab yeh dehaation ko BAY NAZEER  ATM CARD day rahay hain , jis par 3000 per month ATM say yeh jutt nikal saktay hain , or jab in say poocho k vote kisay do gay to kehtay hain k ppp ko , bus yaar yeh mulk kabhi nahi badal sakta , yahan educated log bhi , sardaaron or jaageer daaron k zer e asar hain , mujay to lagta hay k next govt , bhi ppp hi ki ho gi , zardaari bari chaalain chal raha hay , EK ZARDAARI SUB PAY BHAARI, PAKISTAN KHAPPAY
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on November 12, 2012, 05:24:30 PM
http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=038664

this news f**ked DH as well as  engro also  :o
shit yaar, logon ko pagal bana rahi hay yeh hakoomat, kabhi kuch faisla kartay hain or kabhi kuch, kabhi kehtay hain 75 mmc dainay ki baat kartay hain or kabhi munkar ho jaatay hain, kia fazool si hakoomat hay

jaisay voters waisee hukoomat ;)
@space bhai, hum nay in manhoosoon ko vote nahi dia tha , or na aainda dain gay
bhai app minority hain (unfortunately) app kay vote ki kimat eek plate biryani nahee, I am talking about the rest of the 90% voting awam :D
Vote deta kon hai bhai yeha pakistan mein vote dalnay jao to pata chalta hai sab pehele se hogaya hai .. :) bandukay vote leti polling stations mein toh
or ab pata hay k yeh ppp waalay kia kr rahay hain , ab yeh dehaation ko BAY NAZEER  ATM CARD day rahay hain , jis par 3000 per month ATM say yeh jutt nikal saktay hain , or jab in say poocho k vote kisay do gay to kehtay hain k ppp ko , bus yaar yeh mulk kabhi nahi badal sakta , yahan educated log bhi , sardaaron or jaageer daaron k zer e asar hain , mujay to lagta hay k next govt , bhi ppp hi ki ho gi , zardaari bari chaalain chal raha hay , EK ZARDAARI SUB PAY BHAARI, PAKISTAN KHAPPAY

haan syed bhai I too now think PPP will win again unfortunately, the jahils of Pakistan will end up destroying Pakistan in exhange for the proverbial plate of biryani (modern day BISP ATM card). Matlab tax payer is financing PPPs vote bank, and this is supposed to be democracy ? Unreal
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: PK on November 12, 2012, 05:33:35 PM
http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=038664

this news f**ked DH as well as  engro also  :o
shit yaar, logon ko pagal bana rahi hay yeh hakoomat, kabhi kuch faisla kartay hain or kabhi kuch, kabhi kehtay hain 75 mmc dainay ki baat kartay hain or kabhi munkar ho jaatay hain, kia fazool si hakoomat hay

jaisay voters waisee hukoomat ;)
@space bhai, hum nay in manhoosoon ko vote nahi dia tha , or na aainda dain gay
bhai app minority hain (unfortunately) app kay vote ki kimat eek plate biryani nahee, I am talking about the rest of the 90% voting awam :D
Vote deta kon hai bhai yeha pakistan mein vote dalnay jao to pata chalta hai sab pehele se hogaya hai .. :) bandukay vote leti polling stations mein toh
or ab pata hay k yeh ppp waalay kia kr rahay hain , ab yeh dehaation ko BAY NAZEER  ATM CARD day rahay hain , jis par 3000 per month ATM say yeh jutt nikal saktay hain , or jab in say poocho k vote kisay do gay to kehtay hain k ppp ko , bus yaar yeh mulk kabhi nahi badal sakta , yahan educated log bhi , sardaaron or jaageer daaron k zer e asar hain , mujay to lagta hay k next govt , bhi ppp hi ki ho gi , zardaari bari chaalain chal raha hay , EK ZARDAARI SUB PAY BHAARI, PAKISTAN KHAPPAY

haan syed bhai I too now think PPP will win again unfortunately, the jahils of Pakistan will end up destroying Pakistan in exhange for the proverbial plate of biryani (modern day BISP ATM card). Matlab tax payer is financing PPPs vote bank, and this is supposed to be democracy ? Unreal
Na jee not only tax payers its everyone means every honest living individual in pakistan r paying in bhatta extortions n other unethical .. practice by goons of this so called democratic gov.. Rs 30 charge kar rahe they excess cng just imagine kitne banaye hogaye inho ne logo se .. aur ye ek feild hai aise na janay kitne places hai jahan inhone apne democracy ki jalwa dikhaye hai ..sallaon ko democracy ki shayad spelling b nahi ati hogi ziada tarr aur democracy democracy karte hai .. bhai 100 baat ki ek baat pakistan danday se hi chalta hai koi boot wala hi chalashakta hai isay toh .. baki awam k kapro ka b sooday karday aise hai
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on November 12, 2012, 08:28:52 PM
Na jee not only tax payers its everyone means every honest living individual in pakistan r paying in bhatta extortions n other unethical .. practice by goons of this so called democratic gov.. Rs 30 charge kar rahe they excess cng just imagine kitne banaye hogaye inho ne logo se .. aur ye ek feild hai aise na janay kitne places hai jahan inhone apne democracy ki jalwa dikhaye hai ..sallaon ko democracy ki shayad spelling b nahi ati hogi ziada tarr aur democracy democracy karte hai .. bhai 100 baat ki ek baat pakistan danday se hi chalta hai koi boot wala hi chalashakta hai isay toh .. baki awam k kapro ka b sooday karday aise hai
Bravo sir, I 100% agree, boot wala khappay khappay khappay!
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: ally on November 12, 2012, 09:03:29 PM
@parvezkarim...this aint a political forum but i counldnt stop myself from commenting on what you said.

Boot walon ny is mulk ko firqawareat, sobahi or lisani taqseem, taliban, drugs, millions of refugees, dahestgard or pata nah kia kia dia hy.....they are eating half of our budget that is left after paying for debts and debt servicing.....and they have been ruling for more than half of our post colonial time, east Pakistan tragedy alone is enough to understand what these guys are cabale of........tens of thousands of Bangelis killed and committed atrosities whic are shameful even to discuss..............

And as for gas, im sure you know that buring gas in cars is the most inefficient way of using this precious resource.......and we would soon see the prices going back.....and you could already see the repurcussions of price decrease...............

i think boot walon ko saviour samjna kisi tor par b kabil-e-kabool nah hona chaheay................
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Saiti on November 12, 2012, 11:48:51 PM
@parvezkarim...this aint a political forum but i counldnt stop myself from commenting on what you said.

Boot walon ny is mulk ko firqawareat, sobahi or lisani taqseem, taliban, drugs, millions of refugees, dahestgard or pata nah kia kia dia hy.....they are eating half of our budget that is left after paying for debts and debt servicing.....and they have been ruling for more than half of our post colonial time, east Pakistan tragedy alone is enough to understand what these guys are cabale of........tens of thousands of Bangelis killed and committed atrosities whic are shameful even to discuss..............

And as for gas, im sure you know that buring gas in cars is the most inefficient way of using this precious resource.......and we would soon see the prices going back.....and you could already see the repurcussions of price decrease...............

i think boot walon ko saviour samjna kisi tor par b kabil-e-kabool nah hona chaheay................

Neither a boot wala, nor a sherwani wala... not even a suit wala...
We need someone with will to make things better for the nation, doesn't matter if he is wearing boots or khusse...
BTW ally, people do tend to forget the wrongdoings of military dictators.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on November 13, 2012, 01:14:59 AM
@parvezkarim...this aint a political forum but i counldnt stop myself from commenting on what you said.

Boot walon ny is mulk ko firqawareat, sobahi or lisani taqseem, taliban, drugs, millions of refugees, dahestgard or pata nah kia kia dia hy.....they are eating half of our budget that is left after paying for debts and debt servicing.....and they have been ruling for more than half of our post colonial time, east Pakistan tragedy alone is enough to understand what these guys are cabale of........tens of thousands of Bangelis killed and committed atrosities whic are shameful even to discuss..............

And as for gas, im sure you know that buring gas in cars is the most inefficient way of using this precious resource.......and we would soon see the prices going back.....and you could already see the repurcussions of price decrease...............

i think boot walon ko saviour samjna kisi tor par b kabil-e-kabool nah hona chaheay................

laikin zardari/bhutto ki pooja karna aur savior maan na kabil-e-kabool ? Bhutto and PPP jis nay nationalization sae mulk ko decades peechay kiya unn ki pooja zaroori kabil-e-kabool hai ? Point out a civilian govt of the past which did any good for Pakistan ? Atleast during "boots rule" people are safer, when has the law and order situation of the country been as bad as it becomes under every democratic govt ? The military understands that their can only take a part of the budget and they will get a bigger piece if the economy is larger (and therefore the budget), they have always (when in power) done more and more to industrialize the nation, industry means jobs means economic prosperity, and what do the civilian govt do besides looting the treasury with both hands ? and army folks control law and order (be it by brutal means) a heck of a lot better because they don't have to bow down to special interests to garner votes. Both are corrupt, but army is the lesser of the two EVILS.

Also, go do some research and you will find out who uses THE SINDH CARD in Pakistani politics ? Its the love of your life Zardari/PPP.

Don't forget your buddies named Rehman Dakait/Uzair Baluch/PEOPLES AMN COMMITTEE, another gift to Karachi by your beloved PPP/civilian govt.
 
I don't live there anymore so what the heck do I care, keep electing these bastards and see 5-7 more pieces of Pakistan in the future, you people who love zardari and ppp so much deserve everything bad that happens to you, enjoy, while Pakistan lasts  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: itirmizi on November 13, 2012, 03:22:51 AM
I agree that this is not a political board and I never posted anything on it before rather I always read the views of learnt colleagues to figure out where the economy is going, however I found the topic and comments so strong this time that I couldn't stop myself in responding.
It really surprises me to see that we are on the verge of self destruction and still nobody who are running the show care less whether in Boots or Sherwani. It's shame see that a country enrich with so many natural resources and hardworking people is neither united nor committed as nation to raise above ourselves and deliver, the rot from the top is slowly but surely has penetrated into our core values and thus left us with a illusion that we are immune to what happening in our surrounding - Any body dare to compare us with any country far or near with same or less number of years of independence, can easily say that only Allah is keeping this country going otherwise we have done utmost in our power to destroyed it one way or the other.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Saiti on November 13, 2012, 06:49:11 AM
Space, you got it wrong bro... Military dictators ke time pe safety kahaan se ho gai bhai???

You know who created taliban? And then under whose rule they started blowing themselves up.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on November 13, 2012, 11:37:50 PM
Space, you got it wrong bro... Military dictators ke time pe safety kahaan se ho gai bhai???

You know who created taliban? And then under whose rule they started blowing themselves up.

Go ask the people of Karachi (me included) we felt the safest during PPP rule or Zia/Mushy ? Like i said both are Evil but the democrats are much worse when compared to the dictators, the dictators use army to put fear into the people and the democrats use PEOPLES AMN COMMITTEE/PSF. Army did not kidnap for ransom, AMN COMMITTEE/PSF did. Army did not start the BHATTA MAFIA MQM/ANP/AMN COMMITTEE did. You must have older people in your house hold who have seen the safe and secure times of Pakistan during Ayub/Zia ask them and you will know the answer, my parents never had concern for me staying out late at night in my teens (1980s Zia's time), but since the 1st PPP govt in the late 80 and 90s (the start of kidnapping for ransom profession) my house curfew was 10pm, so I KNOW from personal experience when the lives of common man were safer and which party kay jiyalay/ghunday destroyed the personal safety fabric of Karachi/Pakistan.

Military dictators key time pai, if halat went bad, army would be sent to the city immediately and they would kill these bastards without thinking and the remaining ghundas of political parties (jiyalay/PSF badmash) would go into hiding or would be killed or would be jailed by.

You may disagree, but please don't tell me I got it wrong, that insults me, I have personally lived through the different times this nation has gone through, KID.

AS for the taliban, they were an extention of the Afghan Mujahids, who were created,trained and financed by the greatest 'DEMOCRACY' of all time, The USA (go watch Charlie Wilsons War it will be more palatable a lesson in actual history for you). Once the taliban became a liability for the USA they were to be eliminated and thats when they turned their guns on their former masters. The taliban were not created to enforce shariah by gun on Pakistan, they were part of the strategic depth policy created by the democratic govt of USA (back when USA considered India an unfriendly country). Pakistani generals played their part no question, but that would have happened regardless of who was in power, you are saying that a non-military leader would have had the balls to say no to USA ? when they beg the americans for aid so they can loot the coffers ? in fact if anything its much more difficult to control one man then it is to simply buy out the whole 'for sale' parliament of Pakistan. Example, during Mushys time there was a very small and very limited DRONE ATTACK regime which got converted into full fledged undeclared war on Pakistan the moment these democratic sellout bastards came to power. So learn to decipher junk democratic propaganda and learn to read between the lines, everything is not as straight forward as you think it is.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: syed on November 13, 2012, 11:52:18 PM
Space, you got it wrong bro... Military dictators ke time pe safety kahaan se ho gai bhai???

You know who created taliban? And then under whose rule they started blowing themselves up.

Go ask the people of Karachi (me included) we felt the safest during PPP rule or Zia/Mushy ? Like i said both are Evil but the democrats are much worse when compared to the dictators, the dictators use army to put fear into the people and the democrats use PEOPLES AMN COMMITTEE/PSF. Army did not kidnap for ransom, AMN COMMITTEE/PSF did. You must have older people in your house hold who have seen the safe and secure times of Pakistan during Ayub/Zia ask them and you will know the answer, my parents never had concern for me staying out late at night in my teens (1980s Zia's time), but since the 1st PPP govt in the late 80 and 90s (the start of kidnapping for ransom profession) my house curfew was 10pm, so I KNOW from personal experience when the lives of common man were safer and which party kay jiyalay/ghunday destroyed the personal safety fabric of Karachi/Pakistan.

Military dictators key time pai, if halat went bad, army would be sent to the city immediately and they would kill these bastards without thinking and the remaining ghundas of political parties (jiyalay/PSF badmash) would go into hiding or would be killed or would be jailed by.
Agreed with space bhai , but now there is no chance of martial law cos kiyaani can do nothing
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: PK on November 14, 2012, 06:36:45 PM
@parvezkarim...this aint a political forum but i counldnt stop myself from commenting on what you said.

Boot walon ny is mulk ko firqawareat, sobahi or lisani taqseem, taliban, drugs, millions of refugees, dahestgard or pata nah kia kia dia hy.....they are eating half of our budget that is left after paying for debts and debt servicing.....and they have been ruling for more than half of our post colonial time, east Pakistan tragedy alone is enough to understand what these guys are cabale of........tens of thousands of Bangelis killed and committed atrosities whic are shameful even to discuss..............

And as for gas, im sure you know that buring gas in cars is the most inefficient way of using this precious resource.......and we would soon see the prices going back.....and you could already see the repurcussions of price decrease...............

i think boot walon ko saviour samjna kisi tor par b kabil-e-kabool nah hona chaheay................
First of all thanks space bro .. for creating a seprate thread for discussing politics .. i guess it was much needed :) adds a good view to this forum nw .. so now i can reply u Mr ally ..with no offence .. bhai shahab .. aaj zara dekho to sahi kya haal hai karachi ka .. bhatta .. killing .. no safety security or property life .. and its like more or like hell staying here .. we cant enjoy our moments cant enjoy being wht we really want to be .. itni dehsat mein zindagi guzar rahi hai .. thanks to the so called democratic govt .. i have my retail outlets .. n today the fear at business is at its peak .. tht even a customer seems to be a goonda .. do tin banday ek shath atay hai halak mein ati hai .. just cant imagine how our heatbeats rises .. apna phone recieve kartay dar lagta hai unknow number se .. just imagine mussi k time pe ye sab nahi tha .. bhai boot walay danda karte hai lekin awam ko nahi karte hai ..beshak wo b paisa khatay hai lekin awam k liye wo pareshani nahi bantay aur jaisa k space bhai ne kaha ayub aur zia k dorr mein logo ko apne paise chinnay ka darr nahi hota tha businessman .. sukon se karobar karte they ... mera kehna ye nahi ke democracy isnt good but yes .. pakistan k liye to danda hi khappay .

aur kis democracy ki baat kar rahe ho aap .. wahi jaha pm supreme court k orders ko ignore karta ho .. jahan har koi institution apni hi power dikhane mein laga ho ... ye jo current govt hai wo bhi ek tarah se dictatorship ka hi form hai .. kabhi media pe talk show dekho muje nahi yaad agar mein kabhi taget killing corruption bhatta .. k elawa aur koi behes sunni ho ... bas isssi cheez mein uljaa k rakha hua hai .. na koi behtri ki baat hai ,.. na koi plans hai .. matlab samjte hai aap iska ... it means ke agay anay wale din mahina ya sallo kehle .. halat wahi ki wahi rahegi .. wahi light jayegi wahi corruption .. aur .. koi tarrikiyafta kaam pe meine koi show nahi dekha .. mussi k time pe karachi ki shakel hi change hogai thi even k yeha tak kaha jata hai ke .. ye dubai ki tarah free port hojayega ...aur yeha isss govt ne to hmme karachi walo ko to kamaz kam .. jehni mariz bana ke rakhdiya hai ..

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: PK on November 15, 2012, 09:12:29 PM
Lo bhai .. ek aur karnama jamhori hukumat ka .. kal 1st muharram ko khi aur quetta mein bike chalanay par pabandi .. wazir e dakhla rehman malik ... Haha sala joker bana ke rakha hai apne aap ko inhone to .. i guess joker ko b sharam ajay inse .. haha
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on November 16, 2012, 01:33:20 AM
Lo bhai .. ek aur karnama jamhori hukumat ka .. kal 1st muharram ko khi aur quetta mein bike chalanay par pabandi .. wazir e dakhla rehman malik ... Haha sala joker bana ke rakha hai apne aap ko inhone to .. i guess joker ko b sharam ajay inse .. haha

I read a news article a few days ago in which the police chief said that ban on pilon riding had backfired and that terrorists were doing motorcycle shootings just to show off that police cannot do anything to enforce the rule, well except charge the poor people some rishwat.

Laooooo PPP Leeeeeeh Pakistan!
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: syed on November 30, 2012, 11:19:26 AM
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-11-29/pakistan-land-of-entrepreneurs#p1
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: PK on December 09, 2012, 02:22:46 AM
Lo bhai .. ek aur karnama jamhori hukumat ka .. kal 1st muharram ko khi aur quetta mein bike chalanay par pabandi .. wazir e dakhla rehman malik ... Haha sala joker bana ke rakha hai apne aap ko inhone to .. i guess joker ko b sharam ajay inse .. haha

I read a news article a few days ago in which the police chief said that ban on pilon riding had backfired and that terrorists were doing motorcycle shootings just to show off that police cannot do anything to enforce the rule, well except charge the poor people some rishwat.

Laooooo PPP Leeeeeeh Pakistan!
I hope u will nt wonder with this anymore .. rishwat ki baat pe .. a group of police wala's stoped a suzuki driver .. ie transporter .. duyin bakra eid .. asked for rs 100 riswat .. suzuki walanay 30 diye toh nahi liye the driver started moving his vehicle .. and guess wht .. they just shot him .. dead .. yes bro ur right laooooo PPP leeeh pakistan .. bhai aap to bahir ho .. hm b yeha pe leeehh hogaye hai .. :)
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on December 09, 2012, 12:52:21 PM
OMG, that was a new low by our police to shoot someone for not bribing, unreal :(
Can only pray that Allah may wake up the dead senses of the people of Pakistan esp the voters
Otherwise 5 more years of the same might lead to disasters we cannot recover from as it is there is very little hope left :(
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: PK on December 09, 2012, 01:30:44 PM
OMG, that was a new low by our police to shoot someone for not bribing, unreal :(
Can only pray that Allah may wake up the dead senses of the people of Pakistan esp the voters
Otherwise 5 more years of the same might lead to disasters we cannot recover from as it is there is very little hope left :(
For upwards we say sky is the limit .. it implies vice versa of ppls here to get low .. no limit. man ..   :bangin:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: fasee on December 09, 2012, 01:58:11 PM
OMG, that was a new low by our police to shoot someone for not bribing, unreal :(
Can only pray that Allah may wake up the dead senses of the people of Pakistan esp the voters
Otherwise 5 more years of the same might lead to disasters we cannot recover from as it is there is very little hope left :(

sheeesh...there was a time the police used to brag or threat with it....i rememebr 15 yrs back i was on my bike (w/o documents or cash as usual)..a police party stoped me....while arguing for not givign cash to them..they clealry thraetened me, ke we will shoot you point blank, n say we killed a bike snatcher....i nearly balcked out at what he was saying.....during th quarrle some peopel had gathered, and took me away safe...and said, beta, dotn aruge wid those guys, they might have doen that if u had pissed them more...

i guess, they are making natural progression....fast.... :(
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: PK on December 09, 2012, 04:59:41 PM
OMG, that was a new low by our police to shoot someone for not bribing, unreal :(
Can only pray that Allah may wake up the dead senses of the people of Pakistan esp the voters
Otherwise 5 more years of the same might lead to disasters we cannot recover from as it is there is very little hope left :(

sheeesh...there was a time the police used to brag or threat with it....i rememebr 15 yrs back i was on my bike (w/o documents or cash as usual)..a police party stoped me....while arguing for not givign cash to them..they clealry thraetened me, ke we will shoot you point blank, n say we killed a bike snatcher....i nearly balcked out at what he was saying.....during th quarrle some peopel had gathered, and took me away safe...and said, beta, dotn aruge wid those guys, they might have doen that if u had pissed them more...

i guess, they are making natural progression....fast.... :(
haha yaar u knw once .. police wala asked me for money i said nahi hai .. bhai .. job karta hu .. shop pe jana hai .. i had .. chillar .. sikkays cent's with me .. to kehta hai is mein kuch cents de de haha .. salay fatichar ...
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: PK on December 09, 2012, 05:01:50 PM
Bhai the policy for karachi in todays time is .. never argue .. agla banda raat kahe to raat hai din kahe to din .. hai . .thts it .. doesnt matters even if it is or nt ...
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: umar on March 31, 2013, 02:18:29 PM
http://www.geo.tv/GeoDetail.aspx?ID=94657
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Zain on March 31, 2013, 07:26:25 PM
ISLAMABAD: National Database and Registration Authority (NADRA) has devised electronic voting software for facilitating overseas Pakistanis to cast their votes in the upcoming elections-2013, Geo News reported on Sunday.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-94657-Overseas-Pakistanis-to-cast-votes-through-electronic-device
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: newface on June 03, 2013, 11:50:48 AM
Market +300 points on the day of Prime Minister Election. LAOOOOOOOOOO SALAMI to New Prime Minister and smooth transition of Power without much hassle.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Zain on August 04, 2013, 02:50:09 PM
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Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: M&M on August 04, 2013, 07:33:58 PM
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interesting  :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Zain on August 05, 2013, 01:05:04 AM
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interesting  :skeptic:

Yes i believe intresting scerario might rise in few coming weeks as Dr. sab is in full mood, imran khan case is in court which he can use for political gain, zardari is about to leave and there is lot of room for politics regarding his cases and yes ab to mausam be acha ha bhai  :D
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Cheetah on August 05, 2014, 12:46:24 AM
https://www.facebook.com/282051065196423/photos/a.283832191684977.61693.282051065196423/669429203125272/?type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/282051065196423/photos/a.283832191684977.61693.282051065196423/669429203125272/?type=1)
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 21, 2014, 04:25:36 PM
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/08/21/classic-chitrol-of-ijaz-ul-haqpmln-by-rauf-klasra/
Many educated souls on this forum  like our media blindly supporting their favourite rulers almost every actions esp ik and E fans and probably in sincererity.
saw mujeeb ur rehman shami face going red in embarrasment yesterday when anjum rasheed pointed to him whenever rigging is mentioned he always points 1977 and Always ignore zia and mush Refrendums( space bhai ka fan lagta haay :tongue:) and forgetten  his active association and support for late zia ul haq though these day selling benefits and importance of having D and respecting parliment.
Cant v just support any good act from  politicians from any party and E and condemned all wrong acts from any quarter. I think as more educated and  informed individual thats least v can do; i wont quote any Hadith to support it.
i respect klasra even more now (watch the above clip if interested)
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 21, 2014, 05:54:36 PM
Thanks space bhai, u r great :rtfm:
looks writing now very much on the wall for imran khan  ;  comeback from this humiliation appear unlikely.his and E failure to recognise v r in 2014 not in 60,70 or 80's and RUSH to reach top by hook or crook have lead to imran obituary :(
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: ValueInvestor on August 21, 2014, 06:09:13 PM
Thanks space bhai, u r great :rtfm:
looks writing now very much on the wall for imran khan  ;  comeback from this humiliation appear unlikely.his and E failure to recognise v r in 2014 not in 60,70 or 80's and RUSH to reach top by hook or crook have lead to imran obituary :(

Señor,
This is 5th or 6th obituary of Imran Khan, you have written in as many days. How many more to go?
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 21, 2014, 07:17:43 PM
Thanks space bhai, u r great :rtfm:
looks writing now very much on the wall for imran khan  ;  comeback from this humiliation appear unlikely.his and E failure to recognise v r in 2014 not in 60,70 or 80's and RUSH to reach top by hook or crook have lead to imran obituary :(

Señor,
This is 5th or 6th obituary of Imran Khan, you have written in as many days. How many more to go?

To be honest, even though I am a pro-Imran and pro PTI, also I am pro-Armed forces, and also note I am anti-democracy (for Pakistan until people gain education), even I have to say, Imran has lost the plot and it seems he has already done irreparable damage to his reputation and done great damage to PTI.

After this uncompromising stance (POLITICS requires give and take, hardline will usually not work) he has ensured he will never become PM and PTI will never gain majority, its sad
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 21, 2014, 07:37:34 PM
hopefully Joker kasuri will b out of public for Good soon :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 21, 2014, 07:59:22 PM
Thanks space bhai, u r great :rtfm:
looks writing now very much on the wall for imran khan  ;  comeback from this humiliation appear unlikely.his and E failure to recognise v r in 2014 not in 60,70 or 80's and RUSH to reach top by hook or crook have lead to imran obituary :(

Señor,
This is 5th or 6th obituary of Imran Khan, you have written in as many days. How many more to go?
I believe majority of forum members IQ is in normal range while some will show abnormal score on testing but that would b natural and expected :rtfm:
abnormal
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 21, 2014, 09:08:29 PM
PML N has realised 1 thing from dharna speeches
:bangin: :bangin: :bangin:
`give him enough rope and he'll hang himself` :tongue:

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: ValueInvestor on August 21, 2014, 09:17:57 PM
Thanks space bhai, u r great :rtfm:
looks writing now very much on the wall for imran khan  ;  comeback from this humiliation appear unlikely.his and E failure to recognise v r in 2014 not in 60,70 or 80's and RUSH to reach top by hook or crook have lead to imran obituary :(

Señor,
This is 5th or 6th obituary of Imran Khan, you have written in as many days. How many more to go?
I believe majority of forum members IQ is in normal range while some will show abnormal score on testing but that would b natural and expected :rtfm:
abnormal

Señor,
To a person with an IQ of Mongoloid Child - everyone else's IQ seams out of whack. Not surprised.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 21, 2014, 10:22:15 PM
not only imran but seasoned journalists like ayaz amir, nazir naji,
hasan rizvi etc still insisting `change on the way either due to massive popular
support or E dislike for NS, haar nahi accept karnii nor accept v got it wrong (ayaz amir and nazeer
naji declared practically coup has occoured when imran and qadri supporters first invaded Red zone) :thumbsdown_anim:
inn loogoo ka b `ehatsaab` karoo, imran k marwanaay maay inn ka b haath haay
known secular, probably aethist and known sharabi ayaz amir praised PAT ideological and fiercely commited
qadri female fans in his weekly column just before 14th August-iss act paar koi boohat hee gandi gaali
daynee koo dil chataa haay :mad:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 21, 2014, 10:43:19 PM
seriously it seems some of his advisers pushed him (Imran) that once you bring public to Islamabad the entire awam will come out because they are so fed of of this system, but alas, the Pakistani awam is not yet ready for a revolution, and Imran will end up as the biggest loser at the end of it all :(
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 21, 2014, 11:25:52 PM
Portfolio : I try to adhere to Div 40% Growth 20% Midterm Play 10%  Daily Masti Items 10% CASH 20%
space,
pl explain what u mean by daily masti items? 1-2 masti items for friday please
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 21, 2014, 11:31:27 PM
Portfolio : I try to adhere to Div 40% Growth 20% Midterm Play 10%  Daily Masti Items 10% CASH 20%
space,
pl explain what u mean by daily masti items? 1-2 masti items for friday please

satta items, like example, bot
LOTCHEM 6.85 SOLD 7.05 twice in 2 days
KEL BOT 6.8 sod 7.01
etc etc etc

As for items for friday, no idea, when friday comes i will look and decide by movements, track a whole list of items, when they are approaching support levels, buy when they are up 20-30 paisa (net off commisions), sell, pure gambling.

ALSO NOTE, I should update that, due to the inflation of my portfolio (since KSE is now around 30k, and I made that formula when it was at 15k) I have reduced my daily masti/satta items to 7%
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 22, 2014, 03:10:40 AM
talks with pti back on track following phone conversation b/w asad umar & ahsan iqbal in a tv show on dawn tv,
asad umar appeared angry and exhausted but very keen on re-starting talks  indicating pti is willing
to dilute their wish list.
I think asad umar and other serious people r ready to dissent if Imran REMAINS in denial
hopefully,
v will have some more positive news before 9.00 am as Govt too wants sit- in to end asap.
udhar qadri also begining to sound more flexible and less aggressive
lagta tu haay by monday islamabad will b back 2 normal
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 22, 2014, 03:15:47 AM
IK fauj nahi aayaee gee :rtfm:
aur agar fauj nahi aayaee tu i cannot suceed :[

http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102382087&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140821
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 22, 2014, 11:06:15 AM
pml N case now appear water tight in front of junta i.e
pti demands r irrational and behaviour unreasonable while imran
ongoing speeches and qadri contradictory behaviour(running junta parliment
and simultaneously lawyer representation at the SC apart from regular somersaults)
also helping Govt case.
that has put E on back foot and  now pml N is pressing accelerator shlowly but steadily.
World E also now firmly behind pml N.
chance of whistleblower emerging within Pti against imran the biggest dictator/joker going
up with each passing moment hence use of force less likely :rtfm: as pml N now appear more keen
for longhaul
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 22, 2014, 12:01:32 PM
pml N case now appear water tight in front of junta i.e
pti demands r irrational and behaviour unreasonable while imran
ongoing speeches and qadri contradictory behaviour(running junta parliment
and simultaneously lawyer representation at the SC apart from regular somersaults)
also helping Govt case.
that has put E on back foot and  now pml N is pressing accelerator shlowly but steadily.
World E also now firmly behind pml N.
chance of whistleblower emerging within Pti against imran the biggest dictator/joker going
up with each passing moment hence use of force less likely :rtfm: as pml N now appear more keen
for longhaul
http://jang.com.pk/jang/aug2014-daily/22-08-2014/col4.htm

well known E agent firmly behind NS and quoting Asma jahangir to support his case :tongue:
badalta haay sky colour kaisaay kaisaay iss rang barangi paland maay
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 22, 2014, 03:40:35 PM
Zardari has come to warn E, dont touch parliment otherwise 27 dec will b repeated in sindh(benazir died on that day)

PPP cannot afford to backstab pml N after senate vote, its unpopular even in sindh and this crisis is helping them to re-emerge in punjab-possibaly last oppurtunity

http://tribune.com.pk/story/752194/senate-resolution-asserts-supremacy-of-parliament/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 22, 2014, 09:13:42 PM
From: "zia_khatri
Subject: PTI RESIGNATION

PTI have resigned from NA. Game will get even tense now. My guess is that Judges will revolt against PMLN or MQM+PPP will resign soon.

from Salammember on 22/8/2014
ZK,
This is 2014:))
and after several silly dharna speeches even neutral junta against imran becoming PM.
politicians have suffered a lot and for too many years in this country .aab they c current crisis as  payback
Time, i hope invisible hand is well aware of this warna all of us in big trouble.
May Allah protect pakistan
addition-
laoo maal afghan jihad
and kk culture :tongue:
how many times same story will b repeated again and again before world ends :dunno:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 22, 2014, 09:44:07 PM
White flag already raised :rtfm:
http://www.columnkaar.com/dono-ne-dewaren-khenchee-by-haroon-ur-rasheed/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 22, 2014, 10:27:52 PM
Resignation clause likely 2 b part of agreement (face saving for pti);
`PM will resign , agreed caretaker PM and cabinet up will b set up
if Dhandli is proved` :tongue: :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 23, 2014, 03:05:43 PM
Neither E nor oppurtunists surrounding IK and qadri are stupid,
imran will b betrayed and thrown into history dustbin if he continues
to ignore Reality` :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 23, 2014, 03:11:30 PM
Neither E nor oppurtunists surrounding IK and qadri are stupid,
imran will b betrayed and thrown into history dustbin if he continues
to ignore Reality` :rtfm:
if v want to avoid any bloodshed, rebelion within pti khappay or Qadri accepts deal news soon needed huhu huhu huhu
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 23, 2014, 03:29:34 PM
for those still blind and deaf :rtfm:
just note what has come out of mother of all dharnas :tongue:
a very  stupid move or final battle for --------
http://tribune.com.pk/story/752637/musharrafs-party-calls-for-withdrawal-of-treason-trial-to-unlock-political-crisis/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 23, 2014, 03:39:41 PM
for those still blind and deaf :rtfm:
just note what has come out of mother of all dharnas :tongue:
a very  stupid move or final battle for --------
http://tribune.com.pk/story/752637/musharrafs-party-calls-for-withdrawal-of-treason-trial-to-unlock-political-crisis/
i thoght joker kasuri was joking when he gave free advice on live tv (dunya ) to PM
`Ring mush and crisis will end`
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 23, 2014, 04:18:36 PM
chamchaay iss tarah marwataay haay :rtfm:
i am no zardari fan but a super corrupt politicians ,living abroad mostly and quite unwell
is still feared by both E and expert sh.rashid and respected by heavyweight ch.brothers
,kuch tu hoo Ga
but bullbears  baqi tu saab theek haay but yeh economy ka loss due to dharnas -kaun blame laay Ga
i guess u will exclude saab saay baraay mohib-e-watan  :skeptic:
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102385432&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140823
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 23, 2014, 04:32:26 PM
for those still blind and deaf :rtfm:
just note what has come out of mother of all dharnas :tongue:
a very  stupid move or final battle for --------
http://tribune.com.pk/story/752637/musharrafs-party-calls-for-withdrawal-of-treason-trial-to-unlock-political-crisis/

Neither am I blind nor deaf, but it seems you are extremely biased and completely mesmerized by Geo/Jang

This "mother of all dharnas" is not in place to get Mushy out of his troubles. It has been scripted to make Nawaz share space with E/Army http://www.dawn.com/news/1126545/from-a-czar-like-prime-minister-to-a-deputy-commissioner-type-character

ALSO NOTE, if APML tries to use the current situation to get Mushy out of trouble, I say hats off to them, I am a fan of MUSHY, I say make MUSH president for LIFE.

I am not BLINDED by the empty slogans of the sham demoCRAZY that exists in our nation.

Kindly, stop insulting people by your use of words like Blind/Deaf/Stupid etc etc etc cos that will only push someone else (including myself) to use even stronger words, and that will only make the atmosphere bad on this forum.

Discuss all you want, be passionate, but be cordial.

-Space
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 23, 2014, 05:42:52 PM
Space,
your point about strong language noted and acknowledged as fair :biggthumpup:
just a small point,
i can feel your pain for pakland and its people under political set up, if possible try to feel my
pain at the damage done under non democratic set up or due to repeated overnight disruption
to democratic set up .
baqi khair haay because poor pakistanis have suffered under all rulers and v can disagree on behtar kaun
,yes using milder language :tongue:
ps:but aap yeh b booltaay hoo i argue with passion   :confused1:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 23, 2014, 06:19:45 PM
Zardari has come to warn E, dont touch parliment otherwise 27 dec will b repeated in sindh(benazir died on that day)

PPP cannot afford to backstab pml N after senate vote, its unpopular even in sindh and this crisis is helping them to re-emerge in punjab-possibaly last oppurtunity

http://tribune.com.pk/story/752194/senate-resolution-asserts-supremacy-of-parliament/
PML N on front foot following NS-AZ meeting and imran appeared bit rattled this morning,
rumor of habitual but ambitious oppurtunist Qureshi rebelling already circulating in air ( plant :tongue:)
but pti situation is so bad now that  a very minor public dissent now can  turn into an earthquake in no time.
more pressure now on pti to clinch deal or let this dharna ends in bloodshed-kuch tu izzat bachaay Gee :(
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 23, 2014, 07:33:09 PM
Zardari has come to warn E, dont touch parliment otherwise 27 dec will b repeated in sindh(benazir died on that day)

PPP cannot afford to backstab pml N after senate vote, its unpopular even in sindh and this crisis is helping them to re-emerge in punjab-possibaly last oppurtunity

http://tribune.com.pk/story/752194/senate-resolution-asserts-supremacy-of-parliament/
Daay dee `warning` woo b openly :o
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 23, 2014, 07:36:39 PM
Space,
your point about strong language noted and acknowledged as fair :biggthumpup:
just a small point,
i can feel your pain for pakland and its people under political set up, if possible try to feel my
pain at the damage done under non democratic set up or due to repeated overnight disruption
to democratic set up .
baqi khair haay because poor pakistanis have suffered under all rulers and v can disagree on behtar kaun
,yes using milder language :tongue:
ps:but aap yeh b booltaay hoo i argue with passion   :confused1:

Passion is good, and one should be expressive, and it is good that you have acknowledged my point about strong language :)

Look, I personally feel that the 2 ways to get out of the mess our nation is in;it needs development in education and economic sectors.
Education will make people aware of their rights and will empower them to question their rulers.
Economical development will give people a sense of satisfaction and happiness and give them a purpose to aspire to better living thereby decreasing recruitment by nefarious organization (eg TTP)

Thus far as I have already earlier pointed out that the greatest harm done to Pakistani education was done by ZAB. So from my perspective the biggest single damage done to the people of Pakistan have been done by a democratic govt.

Under dictators Pakistans economy has always flourished our economic growth in dictatorial times has been 5-8% annually (Ayub/Zia/Mushy). Under democratic govt the best we have done is 2-3.5% (all through the 3 tenures each by PPP and PMLN).

So as you can see, aside from the Zia factor (Zia---->afghan war---->over islamization----->TTP) thus far since 1970s democracy has completely failed the people of Pakistan, and dictators have bettered Pakistan, Mushy's enlightened moderation and devolution of power was an excellent plan, alas he too was sucked into politics and had to create NRO to bring the looter team of BB/AAZ and Nawaz back to Pakistan. As a military strongman he was totally awesome, but, the issue of ex-cj, who we all now realize was a culprit and a corrupt person, brought Mushy down. So I again reiterate my stance, that for Pakistan democracy/politics is 100% wrong, until our nation is educated enough to understand the power of the vote, and are able and empowered enough to question their leaders.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 23, 2014, 07:47:37 PM
aik zardari-100 paar bhaari :tongue:
hasan askari totally rattled following AZ media briefing :skeptic:
v can now safely write off any non-democratic set up because
all political are well armed and ready 2 rebel if forced
i think IK tone will b different from this moment :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 23, 2014, 08:18:25 PM
aik zardari-100 paar bhaari :tongue:
hasan askari totally rattled following AZ media briefing :skeptic:
v can now safely write off any non-democratic set up because
all political are well armed and ready 2 rebel if forced
i think IK tone will b different from this moment :rtfm:
baas minus 1 khappay-invisible hand :tongue:
parliment everything acceptable xcept minus 1 :skeptic:
lagta haay ik ki qurbani now almost a certainity :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 23, 2014, 08:28:05 PM
From: "zia_khatri
Subject: PTI RESIGNATION

PTI have resigned from NA. Game will get even tense now. My guess is that Judges will revolt against PMLN or MQM+PPP will resign soon.

from Salammember on 22/8/2014
ZK,
This is 2014:))
and after several silly dharna speeches even neutral junta against imran becoming PM.
politicians have suffered a lot and for too many years in this country .aab they c current crisis as  payback
Time, i hope invisible hand is well aware of this warna all of us in big trouble.
May Allah protect pakistan
addition-
laoo maal afghan jihad
and kk culture :tongue:
how many times same story will b repeated again and again before world ends :dunno:
ssab kse investors DUWA karna shroo kaar dooooooo :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 23, 2014, 11:56:48 PM
AZ 10 minutes media briefing has changed the scenario,
Parliment no longer at risk and minus 1 has become main focus of biased but not blind mediamen   
Hasan askari has finally run out of arguments :[,
kabhi argue fauj is reality,
kabhi pml N need to take high moral ground,
kabhi bolta haay yes Dictators break rules but politicians r expected to play fair/follow rules
kabhi bolaay Constituition is nothing
kabhi NS must save parliment as it is supreme
kabhi bolta haay-past is past, v must look 2 future
but post todays AZ warning to E no longer saying martial law is imminent but focusing on -1 formula
and getting angry in desperation :confused1:
if this was 60,70,80 or 90
askari and maulvis would b on TV/newspapers putting anti-D arguments  without anyone else allowed to
put opposite arguments and challange fallacy of askari and co arguments :o
internet and media freedom has allowed politicians and their fans to counter all E backed arguments forcefully
and effectively
now NS must Deliver
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 24, 2014, 11:22:52 AM
Punjab intellectual and writers supported IK and NS in the last election, both have lost ground since though after recent dharnas IK no longer seen as serious candidate for PM job but overwhelming majority of these writers still convinced  and support Democratic set up. punjab   became pro- democracy under mush but why?still too early to evaluate as historically punjab elite  has been neutral -openly pro khakis
http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/17749/Javed-Chaudhry/Inqelab.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 24, 2014, 05:04:45 PM
Punjab intellectual and writers supported IK and NS in the last election, both have lost ground since though after recent dharnas IK no longer seen as serious candidate for PM job but overwhelming majority of these writers still convinced  and support Democratic set up. punjab   became pro- democracy under mush but why?still too early to evaluate as historically punjab elite  has been neutral -openly pro khakis
http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/17749/Javed-Chaudhry/Inqelab.aspx

mushy's devolution plan was anti elite, thats why, they would rather gain power via patronage of corrupt politicians, then to have lower socio economic nazims etc commanding any authority over them
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 24, 2014, 05:30:40 PM
Punjab intellectual and writers supported IK and NS in the last election, both have lost ground since though after recent dharnas IK no longer seen as serious candidate for PM job but overwhelming majority of these writers still convinced  and support Democratic set up. punjab   became pro- democracy under mush but why?still too early to evaluate as historically punjab elite  has been neutral -openly pro khakis
http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/17749/Javed-Chaudhry/Inqelab.aspx

mushy's devolution plan was anti elite, thats why, they would rather gain power via patronage of corrupt politicians, then to have lower socio economic nazims etc commanding any authority over them
 
space bro, pl dont take it to heart, i dont think u have ever tried to fully understand why pple like me oppose fauji rule .
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 24, 2014, 05:35:50 PM
Country has suffered billions in lossess but unn koo 1 million khoun b maaf and sara blame yes bastard ganjaay ka -yes this is biased but not blind member :rtfm:, yes he id right only he and E is patriotic and pple like me r at best misguided at worst  illiterate and fools :(
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 24, 2014, 05:39:51 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/aug2014-daily/24-08-2014/index.html
Yes u read this ages ago from me and on this forum :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 24, 2014, 06:22:42 PM
Punjab intellectual and writers supported IK and NS in the last election, both have lost ground since though after recent dharnas IK no longer seen as serious candidate for PM job but overwhelming majority of these writers still convinced  and support Democratic set up. punjab   became pro- democracy under mush but why?still too early to evaluate as historically punjab elite  has been neutral -openly pro khakis
http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/17749/Javed-Chaudhry/Inqelab.aspx

mushy's devolution plan was anti elite, thats why, they would rather gain power via patronage of corrupt politicians, then to have lower socio economic nazims etc commanding any authority over them
 
space bro, pl dont take it to heart, i dont think u have ever tried to fully understand why pple like me oppose fauji rule .

Bro you are free to like or dislike fauj rule, and I am free similarly, your reasons are of little consequence to me, as I have laid down my reasons in the previous posts and you have yet to respond to them with any real arguments, sorry your links of news from GeoGroup does not work with me find a better more neutral source.

I consider every single person in Pakistan corrupt, I think our nation is doomed, I think even Allah might want the destruction of Pakistan because bribing culture has been acceptable which means even though we call ourselves muslims a large number of people feed on 'pork'/khan-zeer. Alrashi wal murtashi kul o um fin naar, both the bribing parties are bound for hell fire. Our nation uses the good name of Islam to kill/lock up minorities in the name of blasphemy, forced conversion to Islam of hindu girls, killing in the name of 'honor', if we had been living in biblical times by now Allah would have sent a few faristas to destroy Pakistan with brimstone and fire, just like he did Soddom & Gamoorah/quom - lout. So in this insane nation, to me the only party who truly does not want the destruction of Pakistan are the armed forces (yes admittedly they are prone to corruption as well), everyone else, including the corrupted awam is out for their own self interest. That is my reasoning.

Thus far in all of your replies to me, you have yet to list your reasons for supporting the ultra corrupt element of our society. I still do not know how an educated person like you would support the feudal bastards (PPP) or the self interest industrial clan (PMLn) or the bhatta/land mafia party (MQM). It is simply mind boggling that any non brain washed person would look at the options available to them would support feudals/self interest/bhatta mafia over the corruptable patriots i.e The Army, simply mind boggling
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 24, 2014, 06:57:40 PM
Thanks space,
Enjoying day out with family,
Will try to put persuasive case in couple of days
rgds salam
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 24, 2014, 07:45:13 PM

jaag-mere-punjab-peom-by-habib-jalib.html?m=1
jalib no longer with us but punjab is finally awake
 http://jang.com.pk/jang/aug2014-daily/24-08-2014/col3.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 24, 2014, 08:07:21 PM
Why imran is biggest disappoinment in pakistan history,
Pl watch whole 4 minutes song
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=If-rWDHErHw
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 24, 2014, 09:44:43 PM
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?85435-Jaag-Mere-Punjab-Imran-khan-(Pakistan-tehreek-e-insaf)http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?85435-Jaag-Mere-Punjab-Imran-khan-(Pakistan-tehreek-e-insaf)quote author=Salammembers link=topic=1118.msg175959#msg175959 date=1408892841]
Why imran is biggest disappoinment in pakistan history,
Pl watch whole 4 minutes song
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=If-rWDHErHw
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for those who cannot access youtube,
Just watch every frame, listen to every word and then reflect on current scenario
daitaay haay dhoka yeh bazigar khula


























Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 25, 2014, 12:59:47 PM
Lets c ik gets   ditched or PPP repeats political suicide in punjab

http://jang.com.pk/jang/aug2014-daily/25-08-2014/col2.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 25, 2014, 01:07:09 PM
http://tribune.com.pk/story/753085/the-pml-n-mandate/
Considered E ka banda  :D, is this a signal :dunno:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jamalakhter on August 25, 2014, 10:42:35 PM
for those still blind and deaf :rtfm:
just note what has come out of mother of all dharnas :tongue:
a very  stupid move or final battle for --------
http://tribune.com.pk/story/752637/musharrafs-party-calls-for-withdrawal-of-treason-trial-to-unlock-political-crisis/

Neither am I blind nor deaf, but it seems you are extremely biased and completely mesmerized by Geo/Jang

This "mother of all dharnas" is not in place to get Mushy out of his troubles. It has been scripted to make Nawaz share space with E/Army http://www.dawn.com/news/1126545/from-a-czar-like-prime-minister-to-a-deputy-commissioner-type-character

ALSO NOTE, if APML tries to use the current situation to get Mushy out of trouble, I say hats off to them, I am a fan of MUSHY, I say make MUSH president for LIFE.

I am not BLINDED by the empty slogans of the sham demoCRAZY that exists in our nation.

Kindly, stop insulting people by your use of words like Blind/Deaf/Stupid etc etc etc cos that will only push someone else (including myself) to use even stronger words, and that will only make the atmosphere bad on this forum.

Discuss all you want, be passionate, but be cordial.

-Space
SADAM also called gulf war mother of war which resulted , gang r*** of the country till
 now
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jamalakhter on August 25, 2014, 11:20:38 PM
Space,
your point about strong language noted and acknowledged as fair :biggthumpup:
just a small point,
i can feel your pain for pakland and its people under political set up, if possible try to feel my
pain at the damage done under non democratic set up or due to repeated overnight disruption
to democratic set up .
baqi khair haay because poor pakistanis have suffered under all rulers and v can disagree on behtar kaun
,yes using milder language :tongue:       

ps:but aap yeh b booltaay hoo i argue with passion   :confused1:

Passion is good, and one should be expressive, and it is good that you have acknowledged my point about strong language :)

Look, I personally feel that the 2 ways to get out of the mess our nation is in;it needs development in education and economic sectors.
Education will make people aware of their rights and will empower them to question their rulers.
Economical development will give people a sense of satisfaction and happiness and give them a purpose to aspire to better living thereby decreasing recruitment by nefarious organization (eg TTP)

Thus far as I have already earlier pointed out that the greatest harm done to Pakistani education was done by ZAB. So from my perspective the biggest single damage done to the people of Pakistan have been done by a democratic govt.

Under dictators Pakistans economy has always flourished our economic growth in dictatorial times has been 5-8% annually (Ayub/Zia/Mushy). Under democratic govt the best we have done is 2-3.5% (all through the 3 tenures each by PPP and PMLN).

So as you can see, aside from the Zia factor (Zia---->afghan war---->over islamization----->TTP) thus far since 1970s democracy has completely failed the people of Pakistan, and dictators have bettered Pakistan, Mushy's enlightened moderation and devolution of power was an excellent plan, alas he too was sucked into politics and had to create NRO to bring the looter team of BB/AAZ and Nawaz back to Pakistan. As a military strongman he was totally awesome, but, the issue of ex-cj, who we all now realize was a culprit and a corrupt person, brought Mushy down. So I again reiterate my stance, that for Pakistan democracy/politics is 100% wrong, until our nation is educated enough to understand the power of the vote, and are able and empowered enough to question their leaders.
But what is the end result of dictorial regime      first resulted divison of  pakistan, second resulted in
heroin and KK Culture , MUSH era created civil war .now if they came pakland will b astory of past
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 25, 2014, 11:47:11 PM
Space,
your point about strong language noted and acknowledged as fair :biggthumpup:
just a small point,
i can feel your pain for pakland and its people under political set up, if possible try to feel my
pain at the damage done under non democratic set up or due to repeated overnight disruption
to democratic set up .
baqi khair haay because poor pakistanis have suffered under all rulers and v can disagree on behtar kaun
,yes using milder language :tongue:       

ps:but aap yeh b booltaay hoo i argue with passion   :confused1:

Passion is good, and one should be expressive, and it is good that you have acknowledged my point about strong language :)

Look, I personally feel that the 2 ways to get out of the mess our nation is in;it needs development in education and economic sectors.
Education will make people aware of their rights and will empower them to question their rulers.
Economical development will give people a sense of satisfaction and happiness and give them a purpose to aspire to better living thereby decreasing recruitment by nefarious organization (eg TTP)

Thus far as I have already earlier pointed out that the greatest harm done to Pakistani education was done by ZAB. So from my perspective the biggest single damage done to the people of Pakistan have been done by a democratic govt.

Under dictators Pakistans economy has always flourished our economic growth in dictatorial times has been 5-8% annually (Ayub/Zia/Mushy). Under democratic govt the best we have done is 2-3.5% (all through the 3 tenures each by PPP and PMLN).

So as you can see, aside from the Zia factor (Zia---->afghan war---->over islamization----->TTP) thus far since 1970s democracy has completely failed the people of Pakistan, and dictators have bettered Pakistan, Mushy's enlightened moderation and devolution of power was an excellent plan, alas he too was sucked into politics and had to create NRO to bring the looter team of BB/AAZ and Nawaz back to Pakistan. As a military strongman he was totally awesome, but, the issue of ex-cj, who we all now realize was a culprit and a corrupt person, brought Mushy down. So I again reiterate my stance, that for Pakistan democracy/politics is 100% wrong, until our nation is educated enough to understand the power of the vote, and are able and empowered enough to question their leaders.
But what is the end result of dictorial regime      first resulted divison of  pakistan, second resulted in
heroin and KK Culture , MUSH era created civil war .now if they came pakland will b astory of past
Firstly division of pakistan was thanks to ZAB for rejecting the mandate of east pakistani electorate.
Secondly you suggest that leaving this fake democracy control the destiny of Pakistan, where the elite ruling class treats the nation like their personal Kingdom ? Is that your solution to the question of Pakistan ?
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 26, 2014, 12:40:21 AM
Good analysis
Dharna  biggest beneficiary todate-hamza sharif, todays  20 minutes speech has elevated his political staure above
maryam nawaz  :rtfm: like it or not , luck and guts definately help in any field  :biggthumpup: if he has ability he will sustain this otherwise phir backpage paar hoo ga. Look at bilawal, he is still struggling to replace his notorious dad
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 26, 2014, 01:39:10 AM
space,
saw ZAB in my dream last night, aap koo salam bola aur mujhay kaha space is my neighbour in karachi so
uss koo joo b bolta haay bolnaay doo :dunno: so my hands r tied
u saw javed chaudary on express today so u know very well now how fake our D-talat hussain achaa  achaa bola
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/08/25/special-transmission-on-express-news-part-3-25th-august-2014/
solution-
let D continue, once E is contained ,media and junta  focus will b on politicians with full force and infact i can c
more responsive , inclusive and less corrupt Govt atleast in punjab once current crisis is over and won by Democratic forces
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 26, 2014, 04:38:46 AM
Mqm has done well during current crisis.
punjab junta and its leadership now feel more at ease with
karachi walas. I c mqm in cabinet soon - reshuffle hoo ga once current  crisis is over.
so bhai koo mubarak hoooooooooooo :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 26, 2014, 09:05:05 AM
space,
saw ZAB in my dream last night, aap koo salam bola aur mujhay kaha space is my neighbour in karachi so
uss koo joo b bolta haay bolnaay doo :dunno: so my hands r tied
u saw javed chaudary on express today so u know very well now how fake our D-talat hussain achaa  achaa bola
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/08/25/special-transmission-on-express-news-part-3-25th-august-2014/
solution-
let D continue, once E is contained ,media and junta  focus will b on politicians with full force and infact i can c
more responsive , inclusive and less corrupt Govt atleast in punjab once current crisis is over and won by Democratic forces

Hahahah, this is true that 70 Clifton is walking distance from one of my houses in Zamzama, so you can say we are neighbors ;) and salam ka jawab bhi lazim hai, so w'salam

As for Javed Ch and Talat, and you, all of you folks have faith in our people/awam, which is good I suppose, cos hopelessness is counter productive. So in that regard you guys (anchors and people like you/pro D) are of the opinion that if we let D continue that eventually (after Pakistan has been bankrupted) D will bear fruit.

I on the other hand, have lost all hope, perhaps I am wrong. Don't get me wrong, I am not anti-D, I simply think, until people cast their votes in exchange for a plate of biryani D cannot work. Until feudal system exists D wont work. Until police is allowed to be used as servants of the ruling class and they murder people on the illegal orders of rulers D cannot work (eg model town murders by punjab police on the orders of pmln leadership). Until the politics of family rule (22 sharif family members in ministries and other positions of power to control the nation/pubjab) D cannot work.

I also sincerely hope I am WRONG and that your and anchors faith in the awareness of the mostly illiterate awam is correct. After all what difference does it make which side I am on or you are on, as long as PAKISTAN wins.

Pakistan Zindabad
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: GEMINI on August 26, 2014, 09:44:52 AM
space,
saw ZAB in my dream last night, aap koo salam bola aur mujhay kaha space is my neighbour in karachi so
uss koo joo b bolta haay bolnaay doo :dunno: so my hands r tied
u saw javed chaudary on express today so u know very well now how fake our D-talat hussain achaa  achaa bola
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/08/25/special-transmission-on-express-news-part-3-25th-august-2014/
solution-
let D continue, once E is contained ,media and junta  focus will b on politicians with full force and infact i can c
more responsive , inclusive and less corrupt Govt atleast in punjab once current crisis is over and won by Democratic forces

Hahahah, this is true that 70 Clifton is walking distance from one of my houses in Zamzama, so you can say we are neighbors ;) and salam ka jawab bhi lazim hai, so w'salam

As for Javed Ch and Talat, and you, all of you folks have faith in our people/awam, which is good I suppose, cos hopelessness is counter productive. So in that regard you guys (anchors and people like you/pro D) are of the opinion that if we let D continue that eventually (after Pakistan has been bankrupted) D will bear fruit.

I on the other hand, have lost all hope, perhaps I am wrong. Don't get me wrong, I am not anti-D, I simply think, until people cast their votes in exchange for a plate of biryani D cannot work. Until feudal system exists D wont work. Until police is allowed to be used as servants of the ruling class and they murder people on the illegal orders of rulers D cannot work (eg model town murders by punjab police on the orders of pmln leadership). Until the politics of family rule (22 sharif family members in ministries and other positions of power to control the nation/pubjab) D cannot work.

I also sincerely hope I am WRONG and that your and anchors faith in the awareness of the mostly illiterate awam is correct. After all what difference does it make which side I am on or you are on, as long as PAKISTAN wins.

Pakistan Zindabad
Dear Space Brother,

You forget Mr. Imran Khan who has Chalees chor (Gathered from different chor parties). Need your true statement other than anti nawaz or anti mqm statement.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 26, 2014, 10:49:28 AM
space,
saw ZAB in my dream last night, aap koo salam bola aur mujhay kaha space is my neighbour in karachi so
uss koo joo b bolta haay bolnaay doo :dunno: so my hands r tied
u saw javed chaudary on express today so u know very well now how fake our D-talat hussain achaa  achaa bola
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/08/25/special-transmission-on-express-news-part-3-25th-august-2014/
solution-
let D continue, once E is contained ,media and junta  focus will b on politicians with full force and infact i can c
more responsive , inclusive and less corrupt Govt atleast in punjab once current crisis is over and won by Democratic forces

Hahahah, this is true that 70 Clifton is walking distance from one of my houses in Zamzama, so you can say we are neighbors ;) and salam ka jawab bhi lazim hai, so w'salam

As for Javed Ch and Talat, and you, all of you folks have faith in our people/awam, which is good I suppose, cos hopelessness is counter productive. So in that regard you guys (anchors and people like you/pro D) are of the opinion that if we let D continue that eventually (after Pakistan has been bankrupted) D will bear fruit.

I on the other hand, have lost all hope, perhaps I am wrong. Don't get me wrong, I am not anti-D, I simply think, until people cast their votes in exchange for a plate of biryani D cannot work. Until feudal system exists D wont work. Until police is allowed to be used as servants of the ruling class and they murder people on the illegal orders of rulers D cannot work (eg model town murders by punjab police on the orders of pmln leadership). Until the politics of family rule (22 sharif family members in ministries and other positions of power to control the nation/pubjab) D cannot work.

I also sincerely hope I am WRONG and that your and anchors faith in the awareness of the mostly illiterate awam is correct. After all what difference does it make which side I am on or you are on, as long as PAKISTAN wins.

Pakistan Zindabad
Dear Space Brother,

You forget Mr. Imran Khan who has Chalees chor (Gathered from different chor parties). Need your true statement other than anti nawaz or anti mqm statement.

Dear Gemini,

Bhai if you read my overall discourse you will see I do not favor democracy for Pakistan, Imran is a democratic leader, and therefore it applies to him as well.

First of all, kindly note most of my statements of criticism have targeted PPP, #2 PMLN, rarely have I spoken about MQM.

Now to specifically dissect Imran. Yes he veered from his original line of making a party of non status-quo leadership, and that has hurt him and he should not have done that. BUT PPP/PMLN have already governed 3 times each, and everytime they have made a mess of Pakistan. SO from my perspective, Imran and his group of "thieves" also deserve a chance before we know for a fact that they will be just as big at failing and as corrupt as PPP/PMLN.

Coming to MQM, I was a die hard supporter of MQM back in the late 80s and early 90s, but then once they got a taste of power and formed their militant wings a corrupt group of people have hijacked Karachi. Bhatta and land mafia were initially created by them (now PPP's AMN committee and ANP are also involved in bhatta and land grabbing). The KK culture in colleges in Karachi was introduced by them via APMSO, I attended commerce college for a year in 1990 so I say this from personal experience. I also acknowledge that the only party to ever develop infrastructure in Karachi is also MQM under Mushy, Mustafa Kamal was a top class mayor, MQM even today remains a party of the middle class by the middle class, there are no feudal lords in it, so it has maintained its purity, if they can just root out the criminal element which has infiltrated them, then I will once again support MQM, but do note MQM is a local party, and has nearly no mandate across Pakistan and can never ever from a majority government at the center so even if I support them, I would still have to support someone for the center, and for that, currently I have no choice but to choose PTI, simply because Imran himself is not a money hungry AAZ or Nawaz, once Imran proves to be a looter as well, I will stop supporting him.

AGAIN all of the above is subject to the fact that Pakistan continues to be on a fake democratic path, as I said at the beginning, I do not believe democracy can work in Pakistan not while most of the people are uneducated and sell their votes for small favors.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 26, 2014, 11:04:10 AM
http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/17821/Haroon-ur-Rasheed/Haroon-Rasheed-on-Afzal-khan-interview-Must-read.aspx
need 2 tackle this issue for D 2 work
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 26, 2014, 11:14:08 AM
http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/17823/Javed-Chaudhry/Qaumein-Jub-Tausab-Ki-Ainuk-Pehan-Lein.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: GEMINI on August 26, 2014, 01:11:44 PM
http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/17823/Javed-Chaudhry/Qaumein-Jub-Tausab-Ki-Ainuk-Pehan-Lein.aspx

Kash ham sab aik ho jain or Pakistan kay liya sochain...
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 26, 2014, 01:39:11 PM
http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/17823/Javed-Chaudhry/Qaumein-Jub-Tausab-Ki-Ainuk-Pehan-Lein.aspx

Kash ham sab aik ho jain or Pakistan kay liya sochain...
   
either employ all citizens in fauj-not possible or have strong political parties because all  jiyalaas r same and all jamatis trust each other :rtfm: zia ul haq is worse culprit  in our history when he banned student unions , order non party based elections and encouraged sectarian divide 3:1 uuu phir b state funeral millay ga and PM koo toilet maay lock karoo gaay tu b ready for hamza like speech 1 day, its a signal from NS, our children will carry on fighting even if i and shahbaz is killed :mad:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 26, 2014, 01:55:01 PM
Ji k saraay gunah aaj maaf huwaay from( 1947-todate)
http://jang.com.pk/jang/aug2014-daily/26-08-2014/u26961.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 26, 2014, 08:04:59 PM
now javed chaudary is being labelled bikaooo maal :skeptic:
yehi maay na manoo attitude might push us into even more troubled waters :o
for 50 yrs chootay soobay walaay labelled RAW agents,
then NS ka number aayaa :laugh:
joo boolaay script writer same and scrip predictable tu woo b agent :rtfm:
2014 maay atleast punjab ka hoo tu missing person ki list maay nahi aataa
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 26, 2014, 10:07:21 PM
live tv-addictive 2 all :laugh:
PM appeared haapy in his meeting with COAS this morning
but eyelids were swollen:))
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 26, 2014, 11:38:23 PM
Kharra Sach Part 1 (Gen(R) Pervez Musharraf Exclusive Interveiw..!!) – 26th August 2014

mush puts qadri agenda ahead of imran demands,
ALLAH khair karaay as qadri deadline ends tomorrow :o
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 27, 2014, 02:08:38 AM
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/08/26/pmln-leader-talal-chaudhry-abusing-imran-khan-openly/.




This is very dangerous development,
Allah reham karaay
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 27, 2014, 08:35:14 AM
Kharra Sach Part 1 (Gen(R) Pervez Musharraf Exclusive Interveiw..!!) – 26th August 2014

mush puts qadri agenda ahead of imran demands,
ALLAH khair karaay as qadri deadline ends tomorrow :o

Good interview, and Mushy is correct, the reason why Iraq splintered is due to the fact that the americans after the invasion disbanded the Iraqi army and therefore made the state of Iraq powerless. So the balkanisation of Pakistan or splintering is not as simple a matter as it was in the balkans/Iraq/Syria.

MUSHY AS PRESIDENT FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wish he could have stayed in power and used his power to eliminate all politicians and their children instead of doing NRO and trying to save his seat, yet again he got dragged down by the evil of Pakistani POLITICS. He should have used brute force to muzzle everyone, anyone standing in his way should have been silenced by the use of the gun.

UNFORTUNATELY he was not an evil man, so he gave Pakistani people freedom of the press. JewTV group pushed him to do operation on laal masjid and when he did like Brutus they stabbed him in the back and criticized him openly and harshly.

Since he was not evil he did not arrange for the looter politicians to be assassinated, those who point to the Bugti case should know that Bugti was anti-Pakistan, and such elements should ruthlessly be perused  and eliminated at every opportunity, they are working for self interest and for further splintering of Pakistan. ONE good leader is needed, who can rid our nation of these thieves/separatist/terroristic elements, even if it means that ONE good leader is sacrificed in the end, it would be a great service to Pakistan and that ONE leader who cleanses Pakistan of these despicable looters/anti Pak forces will be the true SHAHEED (cos we know at the end of the day such a man would be killed by the remnants of status quo forces). I thought MUSH was such a leader, but alas, he was not strong/ruthless enough to do the job properly, his enlightened moderation, as noble as it was, became his weakness.

Only Allah knows when we will get a true messiah who will CLEANSE PAKISTAN. Hope it happens in my life time.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 27, 2014, 12:24:31 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/aug2014-daily/27-08-2014/index.html
yeh hadyoooo ka doctor kaun haay uuu
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 27, 2014, 12:55:49 PM
My conclusion after todays SC statement :rtfm:
I think all qabza groups r well aware, kis naay kitna khaya haay aur kaha kaha rules break kiay haay. The current crisis was bluffing at the highest level and led to everyone being forced to show their cards:)) now new contract about rules of engagement is being drawn right at this moment. all parties  realise pakistan haay tu saab mazaay haay warna saab ks loss haay.

My feeling is everybody will now back off and v maay never c this kind of deadlock again in future. The possibility of dharna being left to die its natural death very much on the card.

If power brokers fails to end deadlock this week phir bloodshed a certainity but mujh koo  aab 'deal ' dikhti haay . 

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 27, 2014, 04:52:58 PM
Qabza groups deal jaldi karaay warna yeh jinn inn saab koo khaaa jaayaaee ga :laugh:





http://www.zemtv.com/2014/08/27/people-in-peshawar-came-out-on-road-against-pti/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 27, 2014, 05:01:12 PM
Qabza groups deal jaldi karaay warna yeh jinn inn saab koo khaaa jaayaaee ga :lau

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/08/27/people-in-peshawar-came-out-on-road-against-pti/

Yeh mazaay kaun voluntarily surrender karaay ga or is this secret  unlikely Az-SS Meeting :dunno:


http://jang.com.pk/jang/aug2014-daily/27-08-2014/u27056.htm











..
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 27, 2014, 09:47:13 PM
PM off to turkey tomorrow :skeptic:
Why?ALLAH KHAIR KARAAY
while IK speech sounds more like a past election speech
which sound hollow to me without him being able to deliver in KP so far,
E naay pehlaay kabhi junta ka soocha haay, Na aab lagta haay
it cares-Dead bodies needed at any cost to country
,politicians r Corrupt, incompetent and traitors but
agar E koo waqai mulk ka mufaad aziz hoota tu change under 1 of the 4 fauji rule or
several puppet civilian rule aa chuka hota.
majority agree, lever for ending dharna peacefully in E hand and has been from Day 1
pl keep praying and hope for the best
b/c yeh aag if turned into a fire will b uncontrolable 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 27, 2014, 10:17:45 PM
PM off to turkey tomorrow :skeptic:
Why?ALLAH KHAIR KARAAY
while IK speech sounds more like a past election speech
which sound hollow to me without him being able to deliver in KP so far,
E naay pehlaay kabhi junta ka soocha haay, Na aab lagta haay
it cares-Dead bodies needed at any cost to country
,politicians r Corrupt, incompetent and traitors but
agar E koo waqai mulk ka mufaad aziz hoota tu change under 1 of the 4 fauji rule or
several puppet civilian rule aa chuka hota.
majority agree, lever for ending dharna peacefully in E hand and has been from Day 1
pl keep praying and hope for the best
b/c yeh aag if turned into a fire will b uncontrolable
Round 1-pml N clear winner due to false start
Round 2-pml N snatched victory from jaws of defeat when no force used
during Red zone invasion
Round 3-Govt wins again by winning all opposition parties on its side and convincing AZ to issue warning to E
Round 4-Govt falls into IK-TUQ trap by allowing Hamza to threaten E in public meeting
Round 5 and 6-Govt failing to capitilise on comfortable wins in first 4 rounds by appearing indecisive
and on defensive 
?Final Round- if Govt manages to win over Qadri, IK will b biggest casualty
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on August 27, 2014, 11:09:32 PM
together we stand, divided we fall  ;)

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 27, 2014, 11:25:47 PM
together we stand, divided we fall  ;)
even US and EU divided but nation united on rule of law , fairness and justice.
v still keep Quoting Quran, Hadith, Jinnah etc but only when it suit us otherwise
none of us hesitate to bring out counter argument or use abusive language.
this wasnt our culture until early 70`s
it will take time to reverse  this process, neither danda alone nor any single personlity
a solution because both got limited shelf life, education leading 2 voluntary adherence to rules under
social pressure take atleast few decades to produce results.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 27, 2014, 11:53:42 PM
http://www.dawn.com/news/1128133
kia aab space bro dawn ka b boycott karaay Ga :confused1:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 28, 2014, 12:19:34 AM
PM off to turkey tomorrow :skeptic:
Why?ALLAH KHAIR KARAAY
while IK speech sounds more like a past election speech
which sound hollow to me without him being able to deliver in KP so far,
E naay pehlaay kabhi junta ka soocha haay, Na aab lagta haay
it cares-Dead bodies needed at any cost to country
,politicians r Corrupt, incompetent and traitors but
agar E koo waqai mulk ka mufaad aziz hoota tu change under 1 of the 4 fauji rule or
several puppet civilian rule aa chuka hota.
majority agree, lever for ending dharna peacefully in E hand and has been from Day 1
pl keep praying and hope for the best
b/c yeh aag if turned into a fire will b uncontrolable
PM will b out of country,
kia aaj raat action hoo Ga :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on August 28, 2014, 12:34:29 AM
turning out be Thailand coup :)
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 28, 2014, 12:38:39 AM
turning out be Thailand coup :)
Chootay bhai,
i will b highly impressed :rtfm:
i hope aisaa kuch nahi hoo Ga,
Bhai ki threat just makes this dharna game even more `dangerous`
duwa karoo kuch na hoo
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on August 28, 2014, 12:43:31 AM
bharey bhai,

No one wants bloodshed but ns thought he's untouchable. he is good businessman but poor politician. ab kis cheez ki dua. its panic and we all know panic is deadly. 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 28, 2014, 12:56:49 AM
bharey bhai,

No one wants bloodshed but ns thought he's untouchable. he is good businessman but poor politician. ab kis cheez ki dua. its panic and we all know panic is deadly.
i will wait and see what happens tomorrow
, let history judge NS  :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 28, 2014, 04:28:31 AM
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102394260&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140828
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102394246&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140828
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102394247&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140828
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102393372&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140828
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102393366&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140828

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 28, 2014, 05:03:11 AM
Kh asif, saad rafiq and pervez rashid appear at peace ,
Dar looks low and worried
while Ch Nisar is again invisible
NS struggling to hide his smile (last 2 days)
while Shahbaz return flight to lahore suggest
sharifs r mentally prepared to face any situation.
todays Kh asif interview is another and possibly last warning
to E to back off  :rtfm:
todays kh.asif interview is probably most open and direct attack by any punjabi leader since 1947,
history is being made and this time by punjab, lets hopec E has noted kh.asif views because hamza speech
and todays kh.asif interview suggest `pml N has already discussed NS removal from PM office by force
and post coup Gameplan  already in place.
only time will tell whether todays supreme court statement about bones specialist performing neurosurgery
was treated as minor  irritant or proved major restraint against possible coup.
todays man of the match Kh.Asif :rtfm:
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/08/27/special-transmission-on-express-news-part-3-27th-august-2014/

by the way, after 1999 coup, mujeeb ur rehman shami visited aba ji while both sharifs were in khakis
custody and Mian Sharif commented `aab yeh decide karna hee paraay Ga-who rules Pakistan`
i hope current conforntation is not linked to 1999 anger and distress otherwise bhutto family ki
tarah yeha b 2-3 generation suffer kaar sakti haay 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 28, 2014, 05:10:17 AM
Kh asif, saad rafiq and pervez rashid appear at peace ,
Dar looks low and worried
while Ch Nisar is again invisible
NS struggling to hide his smile (last 2 days)
while Shahbaz return flight to lahore suggest
sharifs r mentally prepared to face any situation.
todays Kh asif interview is another and possibly last warning
to E to back off  :rtfm:
todays kh.asif interview is probably most open and direct attack by any punjabi leader since 1947,
history is being made and this time by punjab, lets hopec E has noted kh.asif views because hamza speech
and todays kh.asif interview suggest `pml N has already discussed NS removal from PM office by force
and post coup Gameplan  already in place.
only time will tell whether todays supreme court statement about bones specialist performing neurosurgery
was treated as minor  irritant or proved major restraint against possible coup.
todays man of the match Kh.Asif :rtfm:
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/08/27/special-transmission-on-express-news-part-3-27th-august-2014/

by the way, after 1999 coup, mujeeb ur rehman shami visited aba ji while both sharifs were in khakis
custody and Mian Sharif commented `aab yeh decide karna hee paraay Ga-who rules Pakistan`
i hope current conforntation is not linked to 1999 anger and distress otherwise bhutto family ki
tarah yeha b 2-3 generation suffer kaar sakti haay

kh.asif ki batoo saay lagta haay NS is more keen than E for Coup  :o
not a Good sign :(
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SBM on August 28, 2014, 05:26:49 AM
1) Lord, you guys talk a lot.

2) Nawaz not going to turkey, president sb going to turkey, which might offend them turks since he is completely useless.

3) Till Tuesday, PPP and MQM were broadly supporting the gov. Then last night mqm obviously needing their pound of flesh starting making noises. Make no mistake, if PPP and mqm sense weakness in gov and see an opportunity where they can dethrone PMLN WITHOUT the army coming, they will do it without a moments hesitation.

In fact, as I see it, opposition parties and serial clowns JI & JUI, are not really with gov, but are trying to protect the status quo, i.e the corrupt political culture where nothing can be done without a tonne of money  changing hands, whether it be winning  elections or installing gutter lines (or w.out threats and violence). I feel PTI represent the people who are not interested in living that way and hence do not accept the argument that the current gov is legitimately elected.

4) I voted for PTI for NA in 2013 elections. And I am pretty disappointed with their conduct. PTI (read Imran Khan) thinks they (he)  have (has)  popular support. They dont.  (http://www.dawn.com/news/1128133/nawazs-rating-remains-solid-imrans-wanes-survey)
Had this movement been actually popular (and the elections as rigged as PTI claims), the gov would have fallen long time ago. The right way would have been to continue reforms in KPK, they had the golden opportunity to show and convince rest of the populace that they had genuine governing ability.

As it is, the party leadership looks politically naive, and, if you ask yourself the question " Which party will best serve my & my country's interests?". would you really answer PTI ? A party that has come down to using the same language as the people they oppose, using the same mudslinging tactics as the people they sneer at ? A party which had one province to govern, but its CM was dancing in ISB as the provincial capital was drowning ? A party that doesnt want to negotiate, that uses dogma, that cannot get things done... Whats the use voting for them .. And for fucks sake, a party that has the crazy conspiracy theorist Shireen Mazari as a senior member...  huhu

Whilst PTI's reputation has taken a battering (to be honest, Khan sb never had the reputation of being politically mature so its not like he has lost much ... ), one heartening thing is that there has been a real political awakening after two decades of slumber in the Pakistani youth. Everyone has an opinion. Everyone wants to discuss politics. Hopefully we can bring back politics in universities and colleges so we can groom real leaders and politicians, rising from middle class.


So yeah, Pakistan voted for PMLN because they wanted to get things done. They wanted to move forward, grow out of the malaise the PPPs weak coalition gov had put the nation in. Yes, we all knew they will take their shares in everything. That they wont be 100% efficient with public money. and yes, that money will be directed towards projects which are easier to pilfer from (compare land acquisition costs for Airport road in ISB v motorway lhe-khi motorway v the actual need of the country, ie improvement & investment in energy transmission systems. its mind boggling).

But seemingly, its a cost we were willing to pay. (and for good reason too, PMLN has achieved a lot more in14 months than what PPP did in its 5 years)

Anyway. 
PS, where the f**k is Malik Riaz. Sb keh rate lagao aur market laoo 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SBM on August 28, 2014, 05:39:24 AM
http://tribune.com.pk/story/754601/family-matters-woman-declared-kari-for-shaking-uncles-hand/

Just when you think you cant get any more depressed, you read this.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SBM on August 28, 2014, 06:12:18 AM
Kh asif, saad rafiq and pervez rashid appear at peace ,
Dar looks low and worried
while Ch Nisar is again invisible
NS struggling to hide his smile (last 2 days)
while Shahbaz return flight to lahore suggest
sharifs r mentally prepared to face any situation.
todays Kh asif interview is another and possibly last warning
to E to back off  :rtfm:
todays kh.asif interview is probably most open and direct attack by any punjabi leader since 1947,
history is being made and this time by punjab, lets hopec E has noted kh.asif views because hamza speech
and todays kh.asif interview suggest `pml N has already discussed NS removal from PM office by force
and post coup Gameplan  already in place.
only time will tell whether todays supreme court statement about bones specialist performing neurosurgery
was treated as minor  irritant or proved major restraint against possible coup.
todays man of the match Kh.Asif :rtfm:
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/08/27/special-transmission-on-express-news-part-3-27th-august-2014/

by the way, after 1999 coup, mujeeb ur rehman shami visited aba ji while both sharifs were in khakis
custody and Mian Sharif commented `aab yeh decide karna hee paraay Ga-who rules Pakistan`
i hope current conforntation is not linked to 1999 anger and distress otherwise bhutto family ki
tarah yeha b 2-3 generation suffer kaar sakti haay

watch from the 30th minute
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 28, 2014, 07:43:01 AM
bharey bhai,

No one wants bloodshed but ns thought he's untouchable. he is good businessman but poor politician. ab kis cheez ki dua. its panic and we all know panic is deadly.
i will wait and see what happens tomorrow
, let history judge NS  :rtfm:

It is already part of history that 20-22 ministries and important top govt positions are in the hands of the Sharif family, this Kingdom under the guise of democracy has been exposed for all to see.. No need to read the f**king manual as everyone knows the incompetence with which this govt has run pakistan, in the last year. 80% rise in electricity rates and still the same old load shedding, debt increased by 11.5% in one year, at this pace in 5 years they would increase Pakistans debt by 55% thereby increasing debt servicing to 37% of budget as compared to 23% of the budget (end of previous govt). Only those who want their children to be born enslaved to an unpayble debt will support these incompetent crooks. With defense taking up a minimum of 15-20% of the budget if our debt servicing rises to 37% that would mean 2 items will take up upto 57% of the budget, with growth stuck on 3.5% how is repayment and development even possible ? at this point reading the f**king manual might help, the manual of economics  :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: GEMINI on August 28, 2014, 09:06:14 AM
bharey bhai,

No one wants bloodshed but ns thought he's untouchable. he is good businessman but poor politician. ab kis cheez ki dua. its panic and we all know panic is deadly.
i will wait and see what happens tomorrow
, let history judge NS  :rtfm:

It is already part of history that 20-22 ministries and important top govt positions are in the hands of the Sharif family, this Kingdom under the guise of democracy has been exposed for all to see.. No need to read the f**king manual as everyone knows the incompetence with which this govt has run pakistan, in the last year. 80% rise in electricity rates and still the same old load shedding, debt increased by 11.5% in one year, at this pace in 5 years they would increase Pakistans debt by 55% thereby increasing debt servicing to 37% of budget as compared to 23% of the budget (end of previous govt). Only those who want their children to be born enslaved to an unpayble debt will support these incompetent crooks. With defense taking up a minimum of 15-20% of the budget if our debt servicing rises to 37% that would mean 2 items will take up upto 57% of the budget, with growth stuck on 3.5% how is repayment and development even possible ? at this point reading the f**king manual might help, the manual of economics  :rtfm:

Only few thousand people can not change the democratic GOVT. Please do not convert pakistan into Libya. Request you all pleasssssssssssssssssssss.. For God SACKKKKKKKKKKKK.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SBM on August 28, 2014, 09:14:49 AM
http://tribune.com.pk/story/754544/clear-and-present-danger-2/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: ValueInvestor on August 28, 2014, 09:36:36 AM
bharey bhai,

No one wants bloodshed but ns thought he's untouchable. he is good businessman but poor politician. ab kis cheez ki dua. its panic and we all know panic is deadly.
i will wait and see what happens tomorrow
, let history judge NS  :rtfm:

It is already part of history that 20-22 ministries and important top govt positions are in the hands of the Sharif family, this Kingdom under the guise of democracy has been exposed for all to see.. No need to read the f**king manual as everyone knows the incompetence with which this govt has run pakistan, in the last year. 80% rise in electricity rates and still the same old load shedding, debt increased by 11.5% in one year, at this pace in 5 years they would increase Pakistans debt by 55% thereby increasing debt servicing to 37% of budget as compared to 23% of the budget (end of previous govt). Only those who want their children to be born enslaved to an unpayble debt will support these incompetent crooks. With defense taking up a minimum of 15-20% of the budget if our debt servicing rises to 37% that would mean 2 items will take up upto 57% of the budget, with growth stuck on 3.5% how is repayment and development even possible ? at this point reading the f**king manual might help, the manual of economics  :rtfm:

Only few thousand people can not change the democratic GOVT. Please do not convert pakistan into Libya. Request you all pleasssssssssssssssssssss.. For God SACKKKKKKKKKKKK.

Democratic Govt.:
or more like Efficient Killing Machine, Should I laugh or Cry, don't know!
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: GEMINI on August 28, 2014, 09:45:48 AM
bharey bhai,

No one wants bloodshed but ns thought he's untouchable. he is good businessman but poor politician. ab kis cheez ki dua. its panic and we all know panic is deadly.
i will wait and see what happens tomorrow
, let history judge NS  :rtfm:

It is already part of history that 20-22 ministries and important top govt positions are in the hands of the Sharif family, this Kingdom under the guise of democracy has been exposed for all to see.. No need to read the f**king manual as everyone knows the incompetence with which this govt has run pakistan, in the last year. 80% rise in electricity rates and still the same old load shedding, debt increased by 11.5% in one year, at this pace in 5 years they would increase Pakistans debt by 55% thereby increasing debt servicing to 37% of budget as compared to 23% of the budget (end of previous govt). Only those who want their children to be born enslaved to an unpayble debt will support these incompetent crooks. With defense taking up a minimum of 15-20% of the budget if our debt servicing rises to 37% that would mean 2 items will take up upto 57% of the budget, with growth stuck on 3.5% how is repayment and development even possible ? at this point reading the f**king manual might help, the manual of economics  :rtfm:

Only few thousand people can not change the democratic GOVT. Please do not convert pakistan into Libya. Request you all pleasssssssssssssssssssss.. For God SACKKKKKKKKKKKK.

Democratic Govt.:
or more like Efficient Killing Machine, Should I laugh or Cry, don't know!
OK you forget killing in KHI. Who is responsible since last 3 decades it happens and more than 10,000 peopl kill in one year.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: ValueInvestor on August 28, 2014, 10:11:21 AM
bharey bhai,

No one wants bloodshed but ns thought he's untouchable. he is good businessman but poor politician. ab kis cheez ki dua. its panic and we all know panic is deadly.
i will wait and see what happens tomorrow
, let history judge NS  :rtfm:

It is already part of history that 20-22 ministries and important top govt positions are in the hands of the Sharif family, this Kingdom under the guise of democracy has been exposed for all to see.. No need to read the f**king manual as everyone knows the incompetence with which this govt has run pakistan, in the last year. 80% rise in electricity rates and still the same old load shedding, debt increased by 11.5% in one year, at this pace in 5 years they would increase Pakistans debt by 55% thereby increasing debt servicing to 37% of budget as compared to 23% of the budget (end of previous govt). Only those who want their children to be born enslaved to an unpayble debt will support these incompetent crooks. With defense taking up a minimum of 15-20% of the budget if our debt servicing rises to 37% that would mean 2 items will take up upto 57% of the budget, with growth stuck on 3.5% how is repayment and development even possible ? at this point reading the f**king manual might help, the manual of economics  :rtfm:

Only few thousand people can not change the democratic GOVT. Please do not convert pakistan into Libya. Request you all pleasssssssssssssssssssss.. For God SACKKKKKKKKKKKK.

Democratic Govt.:
or more like Efficient Killing Machine, Should I laugh or Cry, don't know!
OK you forget killing in KHI. Who is responsible since last 3 decades it happens and more than 10,000 peopl kill in one year.

Who ever did it in Karachi is as responsible (or may be more) as who did it in Modeltown.
No Exception.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: GEMINI on August 28, 2014, 10:21:31 AM
bharey bhai,

No one wants bloodshed but ns thought he's untouchable. he is good businessman but poor politician. ab kis cheez ki dua. its panic and we all know panic is deadly.
i will wait and see what happens tomorrow
, let history judge NS  :rtfm:

It is already part of history that 20-22 ministries and important top govt positions are in the hands of the Sharif family, this Kingdom under the guise of democracy has been exposed for all to see.. No need to read the f**king manual as everyone knows the incompetence with which this govt has run pakistan, in the last year. 80% rise in electricity rates and still the same old load shedding, debt increased by 11.5% in one year, at this pace in 5 years they would increase Pakistans debt by 55% thereby increasing debt servicing to 37% of budget as compared to 23% of the budget (end of previous govt). Only those who want their children to be born enslaved to an unpayble debt will support these incompetent crooks. With defense taking up a minimum of 15-20% of the budget if our debt servicing rises to 37% that would mean 2 items will take up upto 57% of the budget, with growth stuck on 3.5% how is repayment and development even possible ? at this point reading the f**king manual might help, the manual of economics  :rtfm:

Only few thousand people can not change the democratic GOVT. Please do not convert pakistan into Libya. Request you all pleasssssssssssssssssssss.. For God SACKKKKKKKKKKKK.

Democratic Govt.:
or more like Efficient Killing Machine, Should I laugh or Cry, don't know!
OK you forget killing in KHI. Who is responsible since last 3 decades it happens and more than 10,000 peopl kill in one year.

Who ever did it in Karachi is as responsible (or may be more) as who did it in Modeltown.
No Exception.

Dear Brother, who will set exceptions? who will be the judge?
A Padri from Canada or IK who is leading with corrupt politicians, Sh Rasheed, Choudhari Brotheran, Qasoori, Jahangir Tareen ????? who is the judge???
Please avoid ARY and think for only Pakistan..........
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 28, 2014, 11:07:32 AM
bharey bhai,

No one wants bloodshed but ns thought he's untouchable. he is good businessman but poor politician. ab kis cheez ki dua. its panic and we all know panic is deadly.
i will wait and see what happens tomorrow
, let history judge NS  :rtfm:

It is already part of history that 20-22 ministries and important top govt positions are in the hands of the Sharif family, this Kingdom under the guise of democracy has been exposed for all to see.. No need to read the f**king manual as everyone knows the incompetence with which this govt has run pakistan, in the last year. 80% rise in electricity rates and still the same old load shedding, debt increased by 11.5% in one year, at this pace in 5 years they would increase Pakistans debt by 55% thereby increasing debt servicing to 37% of budget as compared to 23% of the budget (end of previous govt). Only those who want their children to be born enslaved to an unpayble debt will support these incompetent crooks. With defense taking up a minimum of 15-20% of the budget if our debt servicing rises to 37% that would mean 2 items will take up upto 57% of the budget, with growth stuck on 3.5% how is repayment and development even possible ? at this point reading the f**king manual might help, the manual of economics  :rtfm:

Only few thousand people can not change the democratic GOVT. Please do not convert pakistan into Libya. Request you all pleasssssssssssssssssssss.. For God SACKKKKKKKKKKKK.

Democratic Govt.:
or more like Efficient Killing Machine, Should I laugh or Cry, don't know!
OK you forget killing in KHI. Who is responsible since last 3 decades it happens and more than 10,000 peopl kill in one year.

Who ever did it in Karachi is as responsible (or may be more) as who did it in Modeltown.
No Exception.

Dear Brother, who will set exceptions? who will be the judge?
A Padri from Canada or IK who is leading with corrupt politicians, Sh Rasheed, Choudhari Brotheran, Qasoori, Jahangir Tareen ????? who is the judge???
Please avoid ARY and think for only Pakistan..........

a) You (or anyone else) has absolutely no right to convert a person from MUSLIM to christian (I personally think ALL mullahs are self serving corrupts but even I dont say they are not muslims)
b) Who is more likely to bring change ? IK or the tried tested failed looters of the past and present i.e AAZ and NS ?
c) I dont watch ARY, I do watch express (which includes the very pro govt javed ch) and for the purpose of informing yourself stop following JewTv and JewGroup and their propaganda.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: GEMINI on August 28, 2014, 11:15:47 AM
bharey bhai,

No one wants bloodshed but ns thought he's untouchable. he is good businessman but poor politician. ab kis cheez ki dua. its panic and we all know panic is deadly.
i will wait and see what happens tomorrow
, let history judge NS  :rtfm:

It is already part of history that 20-22 ministries and important top govt positions are in the hands of the Sharif family, this Kingdom under the guise of democracy has been exposed for all to see.. No need to read the f**king manual as everyone knows the incompetence with which this govt has run pakistan, in the last year. 80% rise in electricity rates and still the same old load shedding, debt increased by 11.5% in one year, at this pace in 5 years they would increase Pakistans debt by 55% thereby increasing debt servicing to 37% of budget as compared to 23% of the budget (end of previous govt). Only those who want their children to be born enslaved to an unpayble debt will support these incompetent crooks. With defense taking up a minimum of 15-20% of the budget if our debt servicing rises to 37% that would mean 2 items will take up upto 57% of the budget, with growth stuck on 3.5% how is repayment and development even possible ? at this point reading the f**king manual might help, the manual of economics  :rtfm:

Only few thousand people can not change the democratic GOVT. Please do not convert pakistan into Libya. Request you all pleasssssssssssssssssssss.. For God SACKKKKKKKKKKKK.

Democratic Govt.:
or more like Efficient Killing Machine, Should I laugh or Cry, don't know!
OK you forget killing in KHI. Who is responsible since last 3 decades it happens and more than 10,000 peopl kill in one year.

Who ever did it in Karachi is as responsible (or may be more) as who did it in Modeltown.
No Exception.

Dear Brother, who will set exceptions? who will be the judge?
A Padri from Canada or IK who is leading with corrupt politicians, Sh Rasheed, Choudhari Brotheran, Qasoori, Jahangir Tareen ????? who is the judge???
Please avoid ARY and think for only Pakistan..........

a) You (or anyone else) has absolutely no right to convert a person from MUSLIM to christian (I personally think ALL mullahs are self serving corrupts but even I dont say they are not muslims)
b) Who is more likely to bring change ? IK or the tried tested failed looters of the past and present i.e AAZ and NS ?
c) I dont watch ARY, I do watch express (which includes the very pro govt javed ch) and for the purpose of informing yourself stop following JewTv and JewGroup and their propaganda.
Dear Brother, I do not watch TV for such politicians (They are earning billion and Pakistan is losing billions). Just answer only one question of mine,
WHO WILL SET EXCEPTION & WHO IS THE ANGEL IN PAKISTAN YOU TRUST??
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 28, 2014, 11:51:21 AM
http://tribune.com.pk/story/754389/to-coup-or-not-to-coup/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 28, 2014, 12:14:03 PM
There are no angels in Pakistan.
I do not know who "will" be the exception, BUT i do know the exception cannot be AAZ or NS, they are tried tested looters.
Imran 'can' be an exception, Do i know 100% sure ? nope, but I for one am willing to try/test him, if he fails so be it, what have we got to lose ? Already all other looters have been tested 3 times each
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: GEMINI on August 28, 2014, 12:20:53 PM
There are no angels in Pakistan.
I do not know who "will" be the exception, BUT i do know the exception cannot be AAZ or NS, they are tried tested looters.
Imran 'can' be an exception, Do i know 100% sure ? nope, but I for one am willing to try/test him, if he fails so be it, what have we got to lose ? Already all other looters have been tested 3 times each

So you will test Imran Khan. What about 40 chore with him?
Sh. Rasheed, Choudhir Brothers, Jahangir Tareen, Shah Mehmood Qureshi, Qasoori?
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jamalakhter on August 28, 2014, 12:22:23 PM
There are no angels in Pakistan.
I do not know who "will" be the exception, BUT i do know the exception cannot be AAZ or NS, they are tried tested looters.
Imran 'can' be an exception, Do i know 100% sure ? nope, but I for one am willing to try/test him, if he fails so be it, what have we got to lose ? Already all other looters have been tested 3 times each
                                                                       
                IK  is in a big hurry 2 become PM by hook r crook and he is behaving immaturely
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 28, 2014, 12:28:20 PM
Argument in ik favour-
IK is not corrupt, possible IK may b able to fix some deep problems ? to b sure why not try ?
Counter argument-
imran backers have already been tried 4 times previously and every time departed with a bigger mess,
a puppet is always under his handler control, whenever puppet has tried to rebel or assert his authority
,he has not survived
-backers current operation has probably cost country economy more harm than AZ 5 years rule,
so corruption argument do not hold
 as AZ allowed to complete his 5 years after ppp govt surrendered on foriegn policy /defence
pak history clearly indicate IK too will not b given free hand, he too will ultimately rebel against his backers
and v will b singing yet again
`laay aayaee tum phir kaha paar,
yeh tu wohi jaga haay ,
gujraay thaay hum jaha saay   :rtfm:
if politicians r fooling us than there is equally or probably MORE powerful reason 2 believe E too is fooling
us again :skeptic:
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jamalakhter on August 28, 2014, 12:36:24 PM
bharey bhai,

No one wants bloodshed but ns thought he's untouchable. he is good businessman but poor politician. ab kis cheez ki dua. its panic and we all know panic is deadly.
i will wait and see what happens tomorrow
, let history judge NS  :rtfm:

It is already part of history that 20-22 ministries and important top govt positions are in the hands of the Sharif family, this Kingdom under the guise of democracy has been exposed for all to see.. No need to read the f**king manual as everyone knows the incompetence with which this govt has run pakistan, in the last year. 80% rise in electricity rates and still the same old load shedding, debt increased by 11.5% in one year, at this pace in 5 years they would increase Pakistans debt by 55% thereby increasing debt servicing to 37% of budget as compared to 23% of the budget (end of previous govt). Only those who want their children to be born enslaved to an unpayble debt will support these incompetent crooks. With defense taking up a minimum of 15-20% of the budget if our debt servicing rises to 37% that would mean 2 items will take up upto 57% of the budget, with growth stuck on 3.5% how is repayment and development even possible ? at this point reading the f**king manual might help, the manual of economics  :rtfm:

Only few thousand people can not change the democratic GOVT. Please do not convert pakistan into Libya. Request you all pleasssssssssssssssssssss.. For God SACKKKKKKKKKKKK.

Democratic Govt.:
or more like Efficient Killing Machine, Should I laugh or Cry, don't know!
OK you forget killing in KHI. Who is responsible since last 3 decades it happens and more than 10,000 peopl kill in one year.

Who ever did it in Karachi is as responsible (or may be more) as who did it in Modeltown.
No Exception.

Dear Brother, who will set exceptions? who will be the judge?
A Padri from Canada or IK who is leading with corrupt politicians, Sh Rasheed, Choudhari Brotheran, Qasoori, Jahangir Tareen ????? who is the judge???
Please avoid ARY and think for only Pakistan..........

a) You (or anyone else) has absolutely no right to convert a person from MUSLIM to christian (I personally think ALL mullahs are self serving corrupts but even I dont say they are not muslims)
b) Who is more likely to bring change ? IK or the tried tested failed looters of the past and present i.e AAZ and NS ?
c) I dont watch ARY, I do watch express (which includes the very pro govt javed ch) and for the purpose of informing yourself stop following JewTv and JewGroup and their propaganda.
Dear Brother, I do not watch TV for such politicians (They are earning billion and Pakistan is losing billions). Just answer only one question of mine,
WHO WILL SET EXCEPTION & WHO IS THE ANGEL IN PAKISTAN YOU TRUST??
     
        Now killers/murderers from karachi openly joined hands with TUL , London plan is on full  bloom
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 28, 2014, 01:09:44 PM
http://tribune.com.pk/story/754389/to-coup-or-not-to-coup/
she is agreeing with what i have maintained from the begining-
E cannot win this time, at best Draw possible but that will mean
NS staying as PM :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 28, 2014, 01:15:52 PM
 Now killers/murderers from karachi openly joined hands with TUL , London plan is on full  bloom-jamalakhter
Bro,
v r all humans, in this battle of nerves /bluffs ghalti expected from all sides,
Blunders will determine final outcome and so far
NS has only made mistakes in this crisis hence  odds still in his favour (60:40) :tongue:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 28, 2014, 01:22:10 PM
There are no angels in Pakistan.
I do not know who "will" be the exception, BUT i do know the exception cannot be AAZ or NS, they are tried tested looters.
Imran 'can' be an exception, Do i know 100% sure ? nope, but I for one am willing to try/test him, if he fails so be it, what have we got to lose ? Already all other looters have been tested 3 times each
                                                                       
                IK  is in a big hurry 2 become PM by hook r crook and he is behaving immaturely

I agree with you, even I, a supporter of IK and PTI think demand of ns resignation is unjustified.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 28, 2014, 01:23:55 PM
There are no angels in Pakistan.
I do not know who "will" be the exception, BUT i do know the exception cannot be AAZ or NS, they are tried tested looters.
Imran 'can' be an exception, Do i know 100% sure ? nope, but I for one am willing to try/test him, if he fails so be it, what have we got to lose ? Already all other looters have been tested 3 times each

So you will test Imran Khan. What about 40 chore with him?
Sh. Rasheed, Choudhir Brothers, Jahangir Tareen, Shah Mehmood Qureshi, Qasoori?

And all the politicians of PMLN and PPP are clean ?
So YES I would like to see IK as PM and see if he can deliver, if not, not big deal as all others have already failed and looted 3 times each
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: GEMINI on August 28, 2014, 01:30:41 PM
There are no angels in Pakistan.
I do not know who "will" be the exception, BUT i do know the exception cannot be AAZ or NS, they are tried tested looters.
Imran 'can' be an exception, Do i know 100% sure ? nope, but I for one am willing to try/test him, if he fails so be it, what have we got to lose ? Already all other looters have been tested 3 times each

So you will test Imran Khan. What about 40 chore with him?
Sh. Rasheed, Choudhir Brothers, Jahangir Tareen, Shah Mehmood Qureshi, Qasoori?

And all the politicians of PMLN and PPP are clean ?
So YES I would like to see IK as PM and see if he can deliver, if not, not big deal as all others have already failed and looted 3 times each
Lets see what will happen next and who wins....
Imran Khan with chalee chor (I forgot to add main players MQM & Musharaf is also with TUL and IK)
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 28, 2014, 03:04:49 PM
There are no angels in Pakistan.
I do not know who "will" be the exception, BUT i do know the exception cannot be AAZ or NS, they are tried tested looters.
Imran 'can' be an exception, Do i know 100% sure ? nope, but I for one am willing to try/test him, if he fails so be it, what have we got to lose ? Already all other looters have been tested 3 times each

So you will test Imran Khan. What about 40 chore with him?
Sh. Rasheed, Choudhir Brothers, Jahangir Tareen, Shah Mehmood Qureshi, Qasoori?

And all the politicians of PMLN and PPP are clean ?
So YES I would like to see IK as PM and see if he can deliver, if not, not big deal as all others have already failed and looted 3 times each
Lets see what will happen next and who wins....
Imran Khan with chalee chor (I forgot to add main players MQM & Musharaf is also with TUL and IK)

Lol and yes Zardari tou farista hai naa, app unn ko support karo bhai :)

As for MUSH

MUSH AS PRESIDENT FOR LIFE - I say, laoooooooooooooooooooo MUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 28, 2014, 03:26:03 PM
Why not focus on ik /tuq backers role and track record  :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 28, 2014, 03:39:24 PM
Why not focus on ik /tuq backers role and track record  :rtfm:

It is a democracy right ? so we have freedom of choice right ? since you choose to close your eyes to the wrongful deeds of ZAB/BB/AAZ/NS/SS etc etc, I can choose to close my eyes vis-a-vis backers. IF AND WHEN you choose to see the entire spectrum of truth, then ask me to do the same, until you are guilty of selective viewing, I have every right to do the same  :rtfm: :rtfm: :rtfm: :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 28, 2014, 03:50:16 PM
Now killers/murderers from karachi openly joined hands with TUL , London plan is on full  bloom-jamalakhter
Bro,
v r all humans, in this battle of nerves /bluffs ghalti expected from all sides,
Blunders will determine final outcome and so far
NS has only made mistakes in this crisis hence  odds still in his favour (60:40) :tongue:



Lagta haay Politicians b longhaul seekh gaayaee haay  :tongue:


http://tribune.com.pk/story/754861/islamabad-sit-in-updates-govt-ready-to-file-fir-against-those-responsible-for-model-town-tragedy-says-khawaja-asif/





Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 28, 2014, 03:55:23 PM
Why not focus on ik /tuq backers role and track record  :rtfm:

It is a democracy right ? so we have freedom of choice right ? since you choose to close your eyes to the wrongful deeds of ZAB/BB/AAZ/NS/SS etc etc, I can choose to close my eyes vis-a-vis backers. IF AND WHEN you choose to see the entire spectrum of truth, then ask me to do the same, until you are guilty of selective viewing, I have every right to do the same  :rtfm: :rtfm: :rtfm: :rtfm:
space b ik haay,
Wants to b judge, jury, prosecutor and defence at same time. :rtfm:
pl review my messages, they will b far less biased than yours :skeptic:
I have not closed my mind like u by avoiding pro E channels and writers :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 28, 2014, 04:22:55 PM
Why not focus on ik /tuq backers role and track record  :rtfm:

It is a democracy right ? so we have freedom of choice right ? since you choose to close your eyes to the wrongful deeds of ZAB/BB/AAZ/NS/SS etc etc, I can choose to close my eyes vis-a-vis backers. IF AND WHEN you choose to see the entire spectrum of truth, then ask me to do the same, until you are guilty of selective viewing, I have every right to do the same  :rtfm: :rtfm: :rtfm: :rtfm:
space b ik haay,
Wants to b judge, jury, prosecutor and defence at same time. :rtfm:
pl review my messages, they will b far less biased than yours :skeptic:
I have not closed my mind like u by avoiding pro E channels and writers :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:

Lol, bro you are 100% pro ZAB and refuse to look that he destroyed industry via nationalization, destroyed education, caused breakup of pakistan, and you say your mind is not closed, come on brother dont make me laugh sooooooooo hard that I may start crying ;)

Also note, I too think IK is wrong in asking for NS resignation, I am being objective, I think IK is trapped by his own EGO
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 28, 2014, 04:32:35 PM
Space bro,
defend  ik
23hrs and 59 minutes  and disagree with ik on 1 point and phir shoor machaaa doo i am objective :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: like moeed pirzada  :rtfm:  u cannot judge yourself , v have to leave it to readers to decide how objective both r , i believe u r ik biggest sorry his backers second  biggest fan( bullbears currently occupy top slot closely followed by jag)
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 28, 2014, 04:50:17 PM
salammembers you are #1 defender of fake democracy in pak, I have listed plenty of reasons why I am pro army/dictator, you have yet to defend your position, why you feel looters are better leaders, first explain that

http://www.pakinvestorsguide.com/index.php/topic,1118.msg175783.html#msg175783

Aug 21st - Aug 28th thats a whole week and you have yet to defend, your defense of the looters, and you are pointing at my 24 hours, lol, hilarious

Also note, if I was in IKs position, I would have accepted PMs offer for a commission to investigate rigging on Aug 13th, would have accepted to be head of the electoral reforms committee of the parliament, and governed KPK with absolute efficiency, and swept 2018 election, but IK completely messed that up, was it ego ? was it his advisers ? I do not know. So to say I only disagree with one point of IK is wrong of you.

Here is what you have done

NS make 0 mistakes, he is gods gift to us
ZAB greatest man on earth after our dear prophet (pbuh)
BB/AAZ greatest looting team on earth was a blessing for Pakistan.

EVIL - E

Any real discussion ? NO
Any real statistics ? NO
WHY looters are good for Pakistan ? answer ? NONE

I feel like I am wasting my time with this discussion, cos I have presented properly formed arguments and get labelled a fan of E, at least if I am pro E I have stats and arguments on my side, what do you have ?

I SAID SO NAA, BUS I AM RIGHT E IS EVIL LOOTERS ARE GREAT - this is what I read as your response, this discussion is over, I am done, unless you can actually present arguments and stats to back up your assertions, I will no longer respond.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: GEMINI on August 28, 2014, 05:03:42 PM
salammembers you are #1 defender of fake democracy in pak, I have listed plenty of reasons why I am pro army/dictator, you have yet to defend your position, why you feel looters are better leaders, first explain that
Dear Space Brother,
I feel very sorry to see your comments and pray that you can see the actual picture behind this illusion. These IK backers are hackers (Choudri Brother, MQM, ISI, CIA, TUL, ST, Sh Rasheed, Javed Hashmi, Jamsher Dasti, EX General) 
Choudhir looted BOP 27 billion, see where is mona elahi his son??????????????
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 28, 2014, 05:06:09 PM
Why not focus on ik /tuq backers role and track record  :rtfm:

It is a democracy right ? so we have freedom of choice right ? since you choose to close your eyes to the wrongful deeds of ZAB/BB/AAZ/NS/SS etc etc, I can choose to close my eyes vis-a-vis backers. IF AND WHEN you choose to see the entire spectrum of truth, then ask me to do the same, until you are guilty of selective viewing, I have every right to do the same  :rtfm: :rtfm: :rtfm: :rtfm:
   jaab b entire spectrum of truth hasan askari rizvi koo dikhayaa jata haay, he refuses to discuss it further and
And change the topic by insisting yeh saab past ka qissa haay, v have to look 2 future :bangin:
truth of the matter is E cannot win its case in  any neutral court of law, it will continue to struggle to justify  occupying high moral ground in view of historical long term losses pakistan has suffered under 4 hadyoo wala doctor forced brain surgery. It lacks the guts to admit openly  they still believe civilians r fools and insist v remain  best placed to safegaurd country interests. Hum junta fazool maay mental energy waste kaar rahaay haay
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 28, 2014, 05:13:03 PM
salammembers you are #1 defender of fake democracy in pak, I have listed plenty of reasons why I am pro army/dictator, you have yet to defend your position, why you feel looters are better leaders, first explain that
Dear Space Brother,
I feel very sorry to see your comments and pray that you can see the actual picture behind this illusion. These IK backers are hackers (Choudri Brother, MQM, ISI, CIA, TUL, ST, Sh Rasheed, Javed Hashmi, Jamsher Dasti, EX General) 
Choudhir looted BOP 27 billion, see where is mona elahi his son??????????????

I am not a supporter of Chaudry brothers at all, Sh Rasheed has been wrong with all his predictions over the last 6 years and I think he got IK trapped in this corner. MQM is a political force which every party tries to woo, so kindly if you want democracy then you have to deal with them in a democratic manner. Javed Hashmi is as anti army as possible (for which I dislike him as I am pro army), please get your facts correct. No idea who or what Dasti is.

The uneducated people of Pakistan sell their votes, so, there is no real democracy in Pakistan to begin with. You like this fake democracy which provides 2-4% growth, you can support it all you like, you like this Kingdom of Bhuttos or Kingdom of Nawaz, you are most welcomed to worship them. In my eyes only ones to increase educational and industrial productions in Pakistan have been dictators (since the late 1960s) so I will continue to support people like Mushy, until your fake democracy can produce a true leader.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: GEMINI on August 28, 2014, 05:33:06 PM
salammembers you are #1 defender of fake democracy in pak, I have listed plenty of reasons why I am pro army/dictator, you have yet to defend your position, why you feel looters are better leaders, first explain that
Dear Space Brother,
I feel very sorry to see your comments and pray that you can see the actual picture behind this illusion. These IK backers are hackers (Choudri Brother, MQM, ISI, CIA, TUL, ST, Sh Rasheed, Javed Hashmi, Jamsher Dasti, EX General) 
Choudhir looted BOP 27 billion, see where is mona elahi his son??????????????

I am not a supporter of Chaudry brothers at all, Sh Rasheed has been wrong with all his predictions over the last 6 years and I think he got IK trapped in this corner. MQM is a political force which every party tries to woo, so kindly if you want democracy then you have to deal with them in a democratic manner. Javed Hashmi is as anti army as possible (for which I dislike him as I am pro army), please get your facts correct. No idea who or what Dasti is.

The uneducated people of Pakistan sell their votes, so, there is no real democracy in Pakistan to begin with. You like this fake democracy which provides 2-4% growth, you can support it all you like, you like this Kingdom of Bhuttos or Kingdom of Nawaz, you are most welcomed to worship them. In my eyes only ones to increase educational and industrial productions in Pakistan have been dictators (since the late 1960s) so I will continue to support people like Mushy, until your fake democracy can produce a true leader.
I know Nawaz has done some mistakes in the past but if we compare him with previous regims, where he could not get time to settle down in Pakistan due to army interventions. You see the whole world where people with different ages & different literacy rate but Nations can not get prosperity without democracy. All the developed countries are developed becuase they are democratic including US / UK / India. Why not we?
Please give it time to settle down at least two to three decades (Nations take time to be called greatest.)
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 28, 2014, 05:46:19 PM
I dont need to argue for D or oppose E repeated and selective interference in politics,
Space listens to opposing arguments all the time on tv but chaloo few egs daay dayta hoo , wish he wouldnt comeback and yes i agree BUT-----'- :laugh:
Ayub set poll rigging culture by engineering fatima jinnah defeat;
Zia dismissed honest junejo-so honesty isnt criteria for acceptability/
He also held jaali Refrendum and set up non party based elections to divide our nation
hameed gul proudly claims setting up iji and then supporting NS to disobey elected PM benazir bhutto and raise jaag punjabi to weaken federation ( so clearly nation becomes more divided than united under non democratic Govts)
History has yet to pass its judgement on Mush though he clearly  lost his case in public arena in the last election and reliable and independent surveys continue to suggest he is not popular face in pakistan. His rule is definately always associated with khakis involvement in real estate business on massive scale.
now fake D,  D has never delivered anywhere without being nurtured over decades. Its a lie to claim D cannot deliver /or doesnt work in third world countries. Like All true democrats, i cannot defend corrupt politicians or incompetent ELECTED govts but cannot ignore D history in developed countries where E works as a gatekeeper to parliment and then willingly and obidiently follow elected Govt orders. Agar E backed dharnas can block whole country for 11 days tu it can force any elected govt to set up and support credible NAB and protect courts from any political interference.
if E b apna role sahee play kartee tu aaj pakistan boohat ooper hota. Current battle is about both parties  accepting past mistakes and agreeing on new rules of engagement. God Bless pakland and its citizens
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 28, 2014, 09:52:59 PM

Bro,
v r all humans, in this battle of nerves /bluffs ghalti expected from all sides,
Blunders will determine final outcome and so far
NS has only made mistakes so far in this crisis hence  odds still in his favour (60:40) :tongue:

Game of bluffs but Qadri and IK have indulged in excessive bluffing,
hence its best both now call off their dharnas this evening or by tomorrow
otherwise die hard fans expected 2 start vanishing soon
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 28, 2014, 10:04:32 PM

Bro,
v r all humans, in this battle of nerves /bluffs ghalti expected from all sides,
Blunders will determine final outcome and so far
NS has only made mistakes so far in this crisis hence  odds still in his favour (60:40) :tongue:

Game of bluffs but Qadri and IK have indulged in excessive bluffing,
hence its best both now call off their dharnas this evening or by tomorrow
otherwise die hard fans expected 2 start vanishing soon

http://www.dawn.com/news/1128364/nawaz-close-to-reaching-deal-with-army-wsj

60:40 - lol

"Government aides said the military has seized on Sharif's weakened status during the political crisis and are now seeking guarantees from the prime minister that he will follow through on the agreement, the report suggests.

It also says that for the rest of his term, Sharif will be a ceremonial prime minister.

"If Nawaz Sharif survives, for the rest of his term, he will be a ceremonial prime minister—the world will not take him seriously,"
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 29, 2014, 12:00:12 AM

NS is now black mole in history,
history maay zinda rehnaay k liay khoun dayna parta haay
another punjab lion has surrendered ,
now usual but real lions reaction is awaited from smaller provines.
who won in current crisis and what other cost v will incur cannot b decided right at this moment
lets c whether pml N only had paper tigers or now real one will rebel against
NS humiliating compromise :rtfm:
yes a total knockout and a humiliating one and no unifying political figure left now
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 29, 2014, 12:07:19 AM
I really hope NS and Parviaz Rasheed "enjoyed" this response from "ghulail wallay" what an amazing reply to that insult, thoroughly deserved  :shoaby:  :clap1: :shoaby: :clap1: :dance :rtfm: :rtfm: :rtfm: :rtfm: 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 29, 2014, 12:15:39 AM
[august 28, 2014, 11:40:59 pm] space: i despise bhuttos
[august 28, 2014, 11:41:08 pm] space: i despise them 100 times more than sharifs
[august 28, 2014, 11:41:40 pm] space: bb told americans that she will roll back the nuclear program if they bring her to power
space bro,
2014 maay D ka janaza dhoom saay live tv paar GHQ maay nikalta haay tu
how it would have been possible for BB to roll back nuclear programme :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 29, 2014, 12:19:24 AM
[august 28, 2014, 11:40:59 pm] space: i despise bhuttos
[august 28, 2014, 11:41:08 pm] space: i despise them 100 times more than sharifs
[august 28, 2014, 11:41:40 pm] space: bb told americans that she will roll back the nuclear program if they bring her to power
space bro,
2014 maay D ka janaza dhoom saay live tv paar GHQ maay nikalta haay tu
how it would have been possible for BB to roll back nuclear programme :skeptic:

That is the promise BB made to the americans for getting her into power. I never said she would have been successful in doing so. But what she promised was treasonous and today that traitor is worshiped, this awam deserves all the bad leadership it gets in the name of fake democracy because they worship even traitors like BB.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 29, 2014, 12:38:17 AM
[august 28, 2014, 11:40:59 pm] space: i despise bhuttos
[august 28, 2014, 11:41:08 pm] space: i despise them 100 times more than sharifs
[august 28, 2014, 11:41:40 pm] space: bb told americans that she will roll back the nuclear program if they bring her to power
space bro,
2014 maay D ka janaza dhoom saay live tv paar GHQ maay nikalta haay tu
how it would have been possible for BB to roll back nuclear programme :skeptic:

That is the promise BB made to the americans for getting her into power. I never said she would have been successful in doing so. But what she promised was treasonous and today that traitor is worshiped, this awam deserves all the bad leadership it gets in the name of fake democracy because they worship even traitors like BB.
bhai,
u were 5 yrs old in 1977,
u prefer to read/hear only what u want 2 hear,
it is obvious that even in 2014  E run very active media cell but aap koo sirf
opposite camp k journalists `lifafa people` lagtaay haay and u prefer 2 ignore E
negative campaign against Bhuttos for the last 44 years but obviously u dont want to c
these facts-i doubt u believe any kind of positive news on bhuttos but thats your choice
lets close this topic and wait for next crisis to emerge :tongue:
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on August 29, 2014, 04:22:46 AM
abi tu army ney entry le liye hai and both ik n tuq are now even more confident about resignations.

thailand coup not far :D
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 29, 2014, 05:15:45 AM
abi tu army ney entry le liye hai and both ik n tuq are now even more confident about resignations.

thailand coup not far :D

http://www.awaztoday.tv/News-Talk-Shows/64716/Bolta-Pakistan-28th-August-2014.aspx
watch from 14th minute-banda pagal hoo Gia
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 29, 2014, 01:02:06 PM

NS is now black mole in history,
history maay zinda rehnaay k liay khoun dayna parta haay
another punjab lion has surrendered ,
now usual but real lions reaction is awaited from smaller provines.
who won in current crisis and what other cost v will incur cannot b decided right at this moment
lets c whether pml N only had paper tigers or now real one will rebel against
NS humiliating compromise :rtfm:
yes a total knockout and a humiliating one and no unifying political figure left now
The Real Lion has spoken :rtfm:
bhutto`s Ghost continue to haunt Pakistan even after 44 years E Propaganda
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 29, 2014, 01:50:40 PM
[august 28, 2014, 11:40:59 pm] space: i despise bhuttos
[august 28, 2014, 11:41:08 pm] space: i despise them 100 times more than sharifs
[august 28, 2014, 11:41:40 pm] space: bb told americans that she will roll back the nuclear program if they bring her to power
space bro,
2014 maay D ka janaza dhoom saay live tv paar GHQ maay nikalta haay tu
how it would have been possible for BB to roll back nuclear programme :skeptic:

That is the promise BB made to the americans for getting her into power. I never said she would have been successful in doing so. But what she promised was treasonous and today that traitor is worshiped, this awam deserves all the bad leadership it gets in the name of fake democracy because they worship even traitors like BB.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-125866-Haqqani-reveals-what-Benazir-Bhutto-had-promised-the-US-on-nukes

"Benazir Bhutto during her visit to the United States in 1989 as the Prime Minister of Pakistan committed to Washington that Islamabad would not produce an atomic bomb."


http://aliciapatterson.org/stories/benazir-and-bomb

That she was not only seeking to bring democratic freedoms to her country, she opposed building nuclear weapons.

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 29, 2014, 02:27:00 PM
Space baas kaar yaar,
u r not bigger than Allah and history
, both have acknowledged bhuttos sacrifices.
Aab tum maay na manoo ki tasbeeh parhtaay rahoo,
thats your problem
aisaay hundreds of anti-E statements maay  paste karna shroo kiay tu jaga nahi rahaay gee,
and i am not against E  but oppose their destructive role in politics and trust junta judgement support some control on elected members screening from behind the screen.
U maay consider all pakistanis esp tea wala and village wala corrupt who can b bought for Rs 5 biryani plate but i consider esp poors more aware and intelligent than you in all third world countries because they vote from their heart and not corrupted by may na manoo culture
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 29, 2014, 07:51:39 PM
Pehli goli kaha chalaay gee aur kaun chalaiyaee ga :rtfm:
nawaz failed to  stop red zone invasion / cry at that time .it
Appear today  he has blundered in desperation and put his  and whole family
Lives at stake huhu huhu huhu
khakis too hesitated to topple NS following red zone invasion and now forced to go on defensive
ppp timing has been perfect; az media briefing was appealing to whole nation and todays khurshid shah
speech has awoken long lost jiyalaaaaas. I c kaira as strong candidate for PM post , ppp will not settle for less if khakis want to avoid hard coup :thumbsup_anim:
its obvious that  even if NS / nisar were totally honest, he has lost respect of junta, fauj and parliment.
Only option now left for E Is to force NS to call early election and dissolve parliment
but why would nawaz sharif will do that now :rtfm: unless he is real and very bad coward.
E will struggle to engineer fresh election and will b under even more pressure to obey civilians whenever a truly elected Govt is sworn in :dance :dance :dance
fauj sooch rahee hoo gee -waqai too much greed not good for health and  baywaqoof koo bluff nahi karna chahaiyaee tha????
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 29, 2014, 08:06:21 PM
Space baas kaar yaar,
u r not bigger than Allah and history
, both have acknowledged bhuttos sacrifices.
Aab tum maay na manoo ki tasbeeh parhtaay rahoo,
thats your problem
aisaay hundreds of anti-E statements maay  paste karna shroo kiay tu jaga nahi rahaay gee,
and i am not against E  but oppose their destructive role in politics and trust junta judgement support some control on elected members screening from behind the screen.
U maay consider all pakistanis esp tea wala and village wala corrupt who can b bought for Rs 5 biryani plate but i consider esp poors more aware and intelligent than you in all third world countries because they vote from their heart and not corrupted by may na manoo culture

ALLAH HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THIS TO YOU IN A WAHI ? Nauzubillah are you claiming to be a NABI ????? When you cannot come up with a real argument you claim ALLAH and you have a direct line ? What is the difference between you and ZIA-ul-HAQ ? SHAME

May Allah have mercy even on people like you who lie and claim Allah speaks to them of bhuttos "sacrifices" because its certainly not in the Quran, seriously you should so some touba, you have done what mullahs refer to as blasphemy, its a good thing I am not a conservative, but someone else reading here might report you to the cops :p
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 29, 2014, 08:09:37 PM

NS is now black mole in history,
history maay zinda rehnaay k liay khoun dayna parta haay
another punjab lion has surrendered ,
now usual but real lions reaction is awaited from smaller provines.
who won in current crisis and what other cost v will incur cannot b decided right at this moment
lets c whether pml N only had paper tigers or now real one will rebel against
NS humiliating compromise :rtfm:
yes a total knockout and a humiliating one and no unifying political figure left now
The Real Lion has spoken :rtfm:
bhutto`s Ghost continue to haunt Pakistan even after 44 years E Propaganda

Lol the 'real' lion like the 'real' democracy has lied :D

http://www.dawn.com/news/1128573/govt-asked-army-to-play-facilitator-ispr

Stay blind, be silly, keep insulting without using proper arguments
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 29, 2014, 08:28:49 PM
space,
maay aap ki tarah early 40s maay mqm, NS , mush and now E ka baari baari supporter nahi raha :confused1:.
hum D k sath pehlaay din saay saath saath haay aur joo b D k saath commited haay uss koo vote dia haay
,
history isnt your strong point so i will b wasting my time telling u about it,
baqi,
ZAB and BB ki qabar koo aaj taak jitnaay loog visit kaar chukaay haay for fateha
,utnaay loog mayree aur aap ki 100 generations ki qabrain b muqabula nahi kaar saktee
nor anybody else in pakistan has lived for 44 plus years inspite of continuous well planned
and well resoursced negative propaganda :rtfm:
yeh hoti haay ALLAH ki taraf saay reward-u and many others can disagree but
people do aviod visting bad people graves and they r forgotten quickly
how many people voluntarily welcomed mush on his return? and how many willing to b lashed
and face prison
lastly,
u cant b expert in everything but u insist judgement in politics match my stocks information.
mark my word-
many pple here do not challenge your political judgement out of courtesy and respect for your your kse tips
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 29, 2014, 08:31:52 PM

NS is now black mole in history,
history maay zinda rehnaay k liay khoun dayna parta haay
another punjab lion has surrendered ,
now usual but real lions reaction is awaited from smaller provines.
who won in current crisis and what other cost v will incur cannot b decided right at this moment
lets c whether pml N only had paper tigers or now real one will rebel against
NS humiliating compromise :rtfm:
yes a total knockout and a humiliating one and no unifying political figure left now
The Real Lion has spoken :rtfm:
bhutto`s Ghost continue to haunt Pakistan even after 44 years E Propaganda

Lol the 'real' lion like the 'real' democracy has lied :D

http://www.dawn.com/news/1128573/govt-asked-army-to-play-facilitator-ispr

Stay blind, be silly, keep insulting without using proper arguments
parhtaay hoo nahi,
baat samhaj aayaee nahi
but  huhu huhu huhu
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Dehan on August 29, 2014, 11:00:07 PM
space,
maay aap ki tarah early 40s maay mqm, NS , mush and now E ka baari baari supporter nahi raha :confused1:.
hum D k sath pehlaay din saay saath saath haay aur joo b D k saath commited haay uss koo vote dia haay
,
history isnt your strong point so i will b wasting my time telling u about it,
baqi,
ZAB and BB ki qabar koo aaj taak jitnaay loog visit kaar chukaay haay for fateha
,utnaay loog mayree aur aap ki 100 generations ki qabrain b muqabula nahi kaar saktee
nor anybody else in pakistan has lived for 44 plus years inspite of continuous well planned
and well resoursced negative propaganda :rtfm:
yeh hoti haay ALLAH ki taraf saay reward-u and many others can disagree but
people do aviod visting bad people graves and they r forgotten quickly
how many people voluntarily welcomed mush on his return? and how many willing to b lashed
and face prison
lastly,
u cant b expert in everything but u insist judgement in politics match my stocks information.
mark my word-
many pple here do not challenge your political judgement out of courtesy and respect for your your kse tips
We should focus on KSE here on Forum. We r not politicians, so we should not take politics seriously.  Just enjoy maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaandi and Taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazi.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 30, 2014, 01:35:18 PM
Idhar tu umpire ki ungli uthh gaayaee
dehan bro aab islamabad maay b umpire koo laoooooo :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on August 30, 2014, 09:50:03 PM
bhai ab tu maan jao ke thailand wala coup aanay wala hai :D
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on August 30, 2014, 09:51:39 PM
sara script general pasha ney wahan sey copy kiya howa hai :D
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 30, 2014, 11:23:13 PM
sara script general pasha ney wahan sey copy kiya howa hai :D
depends on NS now sacking few generals  unlike 1999 and
managing 2 survive in 2014 :tongue:
its now or never situation for NS/politicians  and surprisingly moment has also
become D-Day to decide E future role in pak politics
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: aleeimran on August 31, 2014, 12:00:13 AM
where are the PTI & PAT Leadership - I cant see Imran Khan leading from front and Qadri chalao meray seenay pa goli - kaha ho tum log yar why you guys are hiding back
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 31, 2014, 12:13:15 AM
sara script general pasha ney wahan sey copy kiya howa hai :D
depends on NS now sacking few generals  unlike 1999 and
managing 2 survive in 2014 :tongue:
its now or never situation for NS/politicians  and surprisingly moment has also
become D-Day to decide E future role in pak politics
lagta haay Altaf bhai too might b on suicide mission :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 31, 2014, 03:28:11 AM
AZalso on suicide mission?
bent on forcing PPP punjab to rebel against
his /Bilawal forced Leadership, ALLAH karay aisaay
hoo jaayaee
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: hasnain0099 on August 31, 2014, 03:52:32 AM
Shukar hay Topi drama aaj he weekend par he aagya warna market ney war jana tha.....  :s1:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 31, 2014, 05:26:02 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Thai_coup_d'%C3%A9tat
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 31, 2014, 06:07:46 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Thai_coup_d'%C3%A9tat
most unfortunate part appears 2 b media taking sides primarily for
commercial reasons and influence. i doubt this happened in thailand or
can happen anywhere in the world on such a scale
self destruction k saray record achieveable -Guiness book of record
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 31, 2014, 06:32:57 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2014/08/140830_islamabad_clashes_pims_zz.shtml

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 31, 2014, 04:31:38 PM
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/08/30/special-transmission-on-ary-news-30th-august-2014-800pm-to-900pm/
i think scripwriter forget in 2014 weak case scrutiny will comprehensive and indefenseable in front of tv cameras and this will b broadcasted across the country :[ in case of hard coup, smaller provinces r well prepared and ready 2 rebel
while pml N would celeberate spectacular escape
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 31, 2014, 06:31:03 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Thai_coup_d'%C3%A9tat
most unfortunate part appears 2 b media taking sides primarily for
commercial reasons and influence. i doubt this happened in thailand or
can happen anywhere in the world on such a scale
self destruction k saray record achieveable -Guiness book of record


I agree, v  r super corrupt - fawwad chaudry and lucman labelling hashmi a pml N plant in pti :(
v r bad losers but itnaay bad :o never imagined :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: aleeimran on August 31, 2014, 06:51:25 PM
http://javedch.com/javed-hashmi-welcome-club-exclusive/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: newface on August 31, 2014, 07:53:02 PM
What is the outcome of CC meeting held this evening ?
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on August 31, 2014, 07:56:43 PM
What is the outcome of CC meeting held this evening ?

Meeting is still in progress
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 31, 2014, 09:23:00 PM
if coup happens tu v will have much larger and more widespread protests,
this isnt `77 when both radio, tv and papers were silenced and all protests were
crushed through use of overwhelming force.
lets hope some kind of agreement will b reached tonight without any further use
of force.
martial law appears worst possible outcome in current circumtances in relation
to damage to pak economy,unity and bloodshed.
As a first step, immediate cease fire on media  is NEEDED :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 31, 2014, 10:20:42 PM
many people suspect attack on hamid mir was siezed (pre-emptive strike) to silence Geo  before current crisis
so Govt will struggle to counter propaganda from other end during current crisis. At present 70-80%
channels running anti-Govt campaign-yeh tu `shock and awe lagta` haay :tongue:
Ban Geo but allow other pro Govt Channel to ensure level playing field though in which
other country this kind of thing has ever happened or allowed to happen.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 31, 2014, 10:52:42 PM
whatever PPP gained after AZ media briefing and Khurshid shah speech has been squandered in the
last 24 hrs primarily due to zardari and bilawal trying 2 play on both sides of the wicket.
coup or no coup, PPP likely 2 split as soon as any credible figure rebel against AZ .
tuesday assembly session now more important for PPP  future than pml N
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on September 01, 2014, 02:00:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTE_r0JZhfc

documentary released in 2007 when nawaz was coming back to Pakistan.

"Pakistan only real constituency is military and Pakistan history shows that few leaders can survive without that"

Goras understand Pakistan better than us Pakistani's.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 02:17:59 AM
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/08/31/javed-chaudhary-showing-fake-news-by-imran-khan-exclusive-video/
this man has lied so much since 14th august that i feel sick whenever he now appears on tv
naya pakistan has become a joke as he keeps telling distorted stories of accountibility in uk and usa
i cannot understand how any educated and intelligent person can trust his backer because boss is always more skilled than his assistant though choice is indeed ours
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 02:33:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTE_r0JZhfc

documentary released in 2007 when nawaz was coming back to Pakistan.

"Pakistan only real constituency is military and Pakistan history shows that few leaders can survive without that"

Goras understand Pakistan better than us Pakistani's.
Good one,
i got only 1 problem,
i they want to rule punjab thats fine,
they should leave sindh, baluchistan and kp and let those regions b ruled by local khakis
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 02:46:23 AM
NS was totally outshone by khurshid shah in last NA session,
he was also unconvincing since then police action in islamabad
has given him 1 more golden oppurtunity (indeed very very lucky)
to save sharif dynasty.
Tuesday has cruicial day for NS due to grave doubts about his commitment to D,
another unconvincing performance will weaken him further both as PM and PML N prez
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SBM on September 01, 2014, 03:24:55 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Thai_coup_d'%C3%A9tat
most unfortunate part appears 2 b media taking sides primarily for
commercial reasons and influence. i doubt this happened in thailand or
can happen anywhere in the world on such a scale
self destruction k saray record achieveable -Guiness book of record


I agree, v  r super corrupt - fawwad chaudry and lucman labelling hashmi a pml N plant in pti :(
v r bad losers but itnaay bad :o never imagined :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:

lucman sb kafi ghatiya insaan hain. Pti supporters themselves quite ashamed of his support. haha
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 04:00:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTE_r0JZhfc

documentary released in 2007 when nawaz was coming back to Pakistan.

"Pakistan only real constituency is military and Pakistan history shows that few leaders can survive without that"

Goras understand Pakistan better than us Pakistani's.
Good one,
i got only 1 problem,
i they want to rule punjab thats fine,
they should leave sindh, baluchistan and kp and let those regions b ruled by local khakis

MQM k leaders karachi waloo paar reham karaay
aur punjab politics maay kissi ki side na laay,
agar civil war hoi tu just like biharis in bangladesh, sindh
maay b boohat khoun kharaba hoo Ga,
pehlaay hee sindh Urban has suffered too much,
they can play on both sides of the wicket with AZ or remain neutral until
bakra mandee /auction is in place :tongue:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 04:09:37 AM
yes,
he is a liability now,
reliable soursce told me he was at GHQ for 90 minutes
while Qadri stayed for 3 1/2 hours :rtfm:. and rightly so
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102401514&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140901
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 01:04:37 PM
http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/17677/Yasir-Peerzada/Jali-Jumhoriat-Aur-Haqiqi-Inqelab.aspx
i loved Asma jahangir
ami Gaayaee dilli,
dilli saay laayaee billi
---------
and
pur aman burglary
puraman trespassing
probably she also wanted to say puraman r*** but avoided it
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 01:07:43 PM
is NS going to RESIGN today or tomorrow?
too late for him to jump now :(
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 01:51:09 PM
Judiciary still refusing to surrender
but v have not seen any pml N groups trying to
restore order-unpopular Leadership or reflect lack of any ideological base
within PML N
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 02:44:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTE_r0JZhfc

documentary released in 2007 when nawaz was coming back to Pakistan.

"Pakistan only real constituency is military and Pakistan history shows that few leaders can survive without that"

Goras understand Pakistan better than us Pakistani's.
Good one,
i got only 1 problem,
if they want to rule punjab thats fine,
they should leave sindh, baluchistan and kp and let those regions b ruled by local khakis

Ji Amir finally utters above warning in public :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 02:49:57 PM
Siraj ul Haq immortalised in history :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 02:58:45 PM
Siraj ul Haq immortalised in history :rtfm:

Politicians have won,
NS is now irrelevant after siraj ul haq media briefing,
Army not coming
and D likely 2 emerge Stronger than ever,
E k liay
khaya piya kuch nahi
,Glass tora bara aanaay :tongue:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 04:04:42 PM

Q-
one thing which i feel comfortable in whole mess is that "Bureaucracy starts to take order on written not verbal". This may end the GUNDA GURDEE by politician.............What your think???????????

A-
yehi tu Gain haay due to free media and Judiciary not simple Danda


-

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 04:29:20 PM
Scrip thailand ka nahi 1971 wala haay,
Zab role being played by IK though backers r same :rtfm:,
zab also insisted on not resolving dispute in parliment and imran doing same but without
a majority vote in punjab.
Ik cannot match ZAB intellect hence he will b ditched but zab was hanged because he had the ability
to outwit his backers in any fair encounter :rtfm:
history has already given its judgement about zab role as collaberator in 71 break up, now junta is being updated through its action replay in west pakistan about script writer.
if NS still enjoys opposition / smaller provinces confidence and rioters continue to roam around unchallenged tu i anticipate show of weapons in sindh and baluchistan soon as a last effort from politicians to save pakistan. May Allah protect pakistan
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 05:27:52 PM
Scrip thailand ka nahi 1971 wala haay,
Zab role being played by IK though backers r same :rtfm:,
zab also insisted on not resolving dispute in parliment and imran doing same but without
a majority vote in punjab.
Ik cannot match ZAB intellect hence he will b ditched but :[ zab was hanged because he had the ability
to outwit his backers in any fair encounter :rtfm:
history has already given its11 judgement about zab role as collaberator in 71 break up, now junta is being updated through its action replay in west pakistan about script writer.
if NS still enjoys opposition / smaller provinces confidence and rioters continue to roam around unchallenged tu i anticipate show of weapons in sindh and baluchistan soon as a last effort from politicians to save pakistan. May Allah protect pakistan


remember mujeeb 6 nukat and now IK 6 demands  :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 01, 2014, 08:38:18 PM
wow talk about loving the sound of your own voice (typing in this case since its a text forum)
I am considering renaming this thread to salammembers talkshow kya khayal hai ? :D  :rtfm:

On a more serious note, glad I pointed you to this thread, you are keeping this dormant thread alive!

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 01, 2014, 09:02:46 PM

Agar E backed dharnas can block whole country for 11 days tu it can force any elected govt to set up and support credible NAB and protect courts from any political interference.


@Salammembers in all your support for D and your anti E/army stance this is the only truthful and fact based opinion of yours which is a solid and valid point, and yes this is true, E could have done a much better job. Still they have done a better job of economics and education as compared to politicians.

Also I DO NOT give stock tips EVER, people ask me my opinion and I mostly, cautiously tell them what I think, I lock horns with plenty of people on SMC about politics and quite a few aggressive debates have happened. So kindly stop living in your bubbled existence and know what you are saying esp when it comes to personal stuff, before actually saying it otherwise it looks as if you have lost objectivity.

Also note, I participate here to present my point of view, not to convince anyone, similarly, you should present your point of view, does not mean that if you present your argument the other person should sing your tunes. Maay naa manoo ? kya matlab ? just because you fill up a few pages of random thoughts may maan jaoon ? wah
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 09:10:57 PM
Sorry space for any hurt caused.
1 need guts to put their views openly on forum and 2 of us
have proved memons r not buzdil and asset for pakland.
I know like me u too woory for pakistan otherwise u wouldnt b watching tv 18 hrs a day
for last several days. :thanks: i am in profit in netsol and psyl due 2 your trading tp
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 01, 2014, 09:23:37 PM
Very glad you benefited from my random thoughts ! :biggthumpup:

No hurt feelings my friend.

Great to know you are a fellow memon too!!

Yes, as much as I have lost faith in out motherland, I do love it, and worry for it, and wish all the best for it.

On the surface obviously it looks like I am unreasonable in my support for dictatorial leaders. Obviously I, like most other educated people around the globe favor democracy, freedom of speech, separation of church and state, full human rights, socio economic net for the most unfortunate  people of our nation, education of the masses and empowerment of the people. It is just that throughout my life, Pakistani politicians have disappointed me so much (latest being IK) that I have lost any hope of democracy ever flourishing in our land. This is why I favor strong despotic leader and/or a strong role of the armed forces in the way the country is governed. SOMEHOW bring the Pakistani educated population ratio to over 70% and I will support democracy. Until then I am afraid, we are a lost cause.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 09:26:03 PM
ISPR latest statement-
could have been avoided by silent and short action against
2 dharnas.
now they r boxed `in`- they will have to act soon to prove their
neutrality :tongue:
jiay internet/social media and free media
laooooo maal soon
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 09:31:13 PM
ISPR latest statement-
could have been avoided by silent and short action against
2 dharnas.
now they r boxed `in`- they will have to act soon to prove their
neutrality :tongue:
jiay internet/social media and free media
laooooo maal soon

if IK has got even years old political sense, he will end dharna unconditionally-
just gone to bani gala for rest? obviously to meet someone even NS :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 01, 2014, 09:33:34 PM
IK should fake a heart attack, and quit politics, he has shamed his supporters, and lost a lot of them, myself included, a strong PTI was good for Pakistan, as a 3rd option to the ever corrupt PPP and PMLN, alas IK probably destroyed PTIs future
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 09:59:03 PM
IK should fake a heart attack, and quit politics, he has shamed his supporters, and lost a lot of them, myself included, a strong PTI was good for Pakistan, as a 3rd option to the ever corrupt PPP and PMLN, alas IK probably destroyed PTIs future
if D survives and emerges stronger from current crisis tu expect many positive changes in pak politics,
the oppurtunities and possibilities r unlimited :rtfm:
i will wait for this crisis to end before discussing those possibilities
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Maverick on September 01, 2014, 10:21:45 PM
Looking at the quietness of the dharnas, demoralization of IK and TQ, and backfoot the E has gone, the market looks 700+ tomorrow.

of course this is the view at 10:20 pm 1st September. looking at the ever changing situation, anything can happen.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 10:26:01 PM
https://www.facebook.com/MoeedPirzada?fref=ts
he is very bright and outstanding presenter but follow
his page on facebook for few days and u will stop trusting him.
he had brilliant jori with babar sattar in Siyasat Aur Qanoon but for some unknown reason
babar sattar was replaced with lightweight fawad chaudary 3-4 months ago,
Now, in the hindsight this change of face appear `suspicious`
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: aleeimran on September 01, 2014, 10:34:13 PM
Javed Hashmi revealed some bitter facts on Express Tv.................he said some personnel from E are supporting & pushing Imran Khan to do all this...............Sheikh Rasheed and some others in PTI such as Niazi are also participating in this Plan....
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 10:37:28 PM
ISPR latest statement-
could have been avoided by silent and short action against
2 dharnas.
now they r boxed `in`- they will have to act soon to prove their
neutrality :tongue:
jiay internet/social media and free media
laooooo maal soon
lagta have `deal ` done,
politicians on all side including hashmi now praising khakis (right move) as damage limitation excercise on
behalf of `state`, chances of major fireworks tomorrow in assembly now very low :rtfm:.
a good decision by both parties before chinese PM visit.
lets work togather to achieve a more stronger pakistan
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: aleeimran on September 01, 2014, 11:03:33 PM
IK GAME is over...........Javed Hashmi has revealed all secrets behind this drama........Watch Express
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 11:14:57 PM
0
IK GAME is over...........Javed Hashmi has revealed all secrets behind this drama........Watch Express
state cannot afford ? over its forces integrity in public
and state cannot function without army :rtfm:.
javed hashmi koo effectively neutralise sirf politicians kaar saktaay haay and this will
b DONE unconditionally and voluntarily( no choice) .
country has paid a very heavy price for ?pasha adventure but this is progress,
now E will try to get rid off ?pasha like characters in its rank and there will b serious
debate on its future role in politics
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 01, 2014, 11:46:13 PM
0
IK GAME is over...........Javed Hashmi has revealed all secrets behind this drama........Watch Express
state cannot afford ? over its forces integrity in public
and state cannot function without army :rtfm:.
javed hashmi koo effectively neutralise sirf politicians kaar saktaay haay and this will
b DONE unconditionally and voluntarily( no choice) .
country has paid a very heavy price for ?pasha adventure but this is progress,
now E will try to get rid off ?pasha like characters in its rank and there will b serious
debate on its future role in politics
Geo koo Govt saay Advert shroo?
if this is true, match has definately finished,
subah maal bhaarna haay :good
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 02, 2014, 01:53:55 AM
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/01/live-with-talat-imran-khan-make-his-conspiracy-for-system-1st-september-2014/
i wrote and predicted all of what has been discussed today in talat hussain programme and agree with their predictions
following todays events-worth watching if u want better D in pakistan in future.
Hasan askari is predicting anti-E resolution in Parliment tomorrow, I doubt it because itna `open` revolt karnaay
k liay Parliment koo pehlaay relatively `PAK` karna hoo Ga, at best i c  strong pro-D resolution and support for operation clean up.
E has definately lost because it took the battle too far but NS has survived because of smaller provinces and their politicians otherwise
NS and pml N has made too many mistakes since 14th august. NS is probably the luckiest person on earth.
It is clear pml N is still learning politics and need 2 learn a lot from PPP heavyweights .
fainthearts can delay buying until joint session is over :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 02, 2014, 02:08:40 AM
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/01/capital-talk-special-transmission-8pm-to-9pm-1st-september-2014/
space,
punjab intellectuals no longer fooled by `Raw agent` propaganda
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 02, 2014, 03:40:10 AM
Even after hashmi revealations, IK still insisting on PM resignation while admitting crowd has shrank significantly. Country has suffered billions while khakis refuse to clear Red zone and discouraging
police to enforce rule of law.
Whole Govt is paralysed, opposition parties barring pti remain  firmly behind pml N Govt
, sindh and Baluchistan already threatening civil war in case of Coup.
somebody has 2 b behind this and this cannot continue further as country existance itself is now at stake.
if IK has gone mad, in which case much delayed operation clean up will b natural  ,  but he appeared  re-charged after 6 hours stay in bani gala.
Before Hashmi revealations, NS exit appeared unstoppable, following hashmi press confrence  ISPR defensive statement suggested coup was now out of question hence voluntary dharna end or by force close.
Now IK post midnight aggressive speech suggest dharna not ending without more dead bodies or more friction between his backer and parliment though looking at the crowd number tonight, i doubt   invisible hand can still continue their support for him unless some big anti NS news coming to light tomorrow morning :confused1:   
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: sumbul on September 02, 2014, 09:42:17 AM
It is quite obvious now that army and isi is behind this entire bullshit - Hope they fail miserable this time around   :rtfm:

Army’s questionable decisions

The carefully constructed veneer of neutrality that the army leadership had constructed through much of the national political crisis instigated by Imran Khan and Tahirul Qadri has been torn apart.
Also Read: ISPR statement reactions: Balanced, ominous - hedged?

First, came the army’s statement on Sunday, the third in a series of statements in recent days on the political crisis, which quite astonishingly elevated the legitimacy and credibility of the demands of Imran Khan, Tahirul Qadri and their violent protesters above that of the choices and actions of an elected government dealing with a political crisis.

Consider the sequence of events so far. When the army first publicly waded into the political crisis, it counselled restraint on all sides — as though it was the government that fundamentally still had some questions hanging over its legitimacy simply because Imran Khan and Tahirul Qadri alleged so.

Next, the army crept towards the Khan/Qadri camp by urging the government to facilitate negotiations — as though it was the government that was being unreasonable, and not Mr Khan and Mr Qadri.

Now, staggeringly, the army has ‘advised’ the government not to use force against violent protesters and essentially told it to make whatever concessions necessary to placate Mr Khan and Mr Qadri.

It is simply extraordinary that it is the PAT and PTI supporters who want to break into and occupy state buildings, but it is the government that has been rebuked. It’s as if the army is unaware — rather, unwilling — to acknowledge the constitutional scheme of things: it is the government that is supposed to give orders to the army, not the other way around. The government has already issued its order: invoking Article 245.

On Saturday, as violent thugs attacked parliament, it was surely the army’s duty to repel them.
But the soldiers stationed there did nothing and the army leadership the next day warned the government instead of the protesters — which largely explains why the protesters were able to continue their pitched battles with the police and attacked the PTV headquarters yesterday.
If that were not enough, yesterday also brought another thunderbolt: this time from within the PTI with party president Javed Hashmi indicating that Mr Khan is essentially doing what he has been asked and encouraged to do by the army leadership.

It took the ISPR a few hours to respond with the inevitable denial, but a mere denial is inadequate at this point. The functioning of the state stands paralysed because a few thousand protesters and their leaders have laid siege to state institutions.

Where is the army condemnation of that?

Would the army allow even a handful of peaceful protesters to gather outside GHQ for a few hours?

The army is hardly being ‘neutral’. It is making a choice.

And, it is disappointing that choice is doing little to strengthen the constitutional, democratic and legitimate scheme of things.

Published in Dawn, September 2nd, 2014

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 02, 2014, 11:35:32 AM
Even after hashmi revealations, IK still insisting on PM resignation while admitting crowd has shrank significantly. Country has suffered billions while khakis refuse to clear Red zone and discouraging
police to enforce rule of law.
Whole Govt is paralysed, opposition parties barring pti remain  firmly behind pml N Govt
, sindh and Baluchistan already threatening civil war in case of Coup.
somebody has 2 b behind this and this cannot continue further as country existance itself is now at stake.
if IK has gone mad, in which case much delayed operation clean up will b natural  ,  but he appeared  re-charged after 6 hours stay in bani gala.
Before Hashmi revealations, NS exit appeared unstoppable, following hashmi press confrence  ISPR defensive statement suggested coup was now out of question hence voluntary dharna end or by force close.
Now IK post midnight aggressive speech suggest dharna not ending without more dead bodies or more friction between his backer and parliment though looking at the crowd number tonight, i doubt   invisible hand can still continue their support for him unless some big anti NS news coming to light tomorrow morning :confused1:   
lagta haay further inaction to restore order may lead to someone in punjab shouting ` treacherous `soon
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/01/capital-talk-special-transmission-8pm-to-9pm-1st-september-2014/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 02, 2014, 11:47:30 AM

MQM k leaders karachi waloo paar reham karaay
aur punjab politics maay kissi ki side na laay,
agar civil war hoi tu just like biharis in bangladesh, sindh
maay b boohat khoun kharaba hoo Ga,
pehlaay hee sindh Urban has suffered too much,
they can play on both sides of the wicket with AZ or remain neutral until
bakra mandee /auction is in place :tongue:
v r Glad mqm got the message and now displaying more mature behaviour
but karachi ka boohat ziada loss hoo chuka and at the end of current crisis
another vital Decision time will come-i hope mqm will b better prepared and at
this cruical time will keep karachi interest above personal gain
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 02, 2014, 11:55:56 AM
ISPR latest statement-
could have been avoided by silent and short action against
2 dharnas.
now they r boxed `in`- they will have to act soon to prove their
neutrality :tongue:
jiay internet/social media and free media
laooooo maal soon
lagta have `deal ` done,
politicians on all side including hashmi now praising khakis (right move) as damage limitation excercise on
behalf of `state`, chances of major fireworks tomorrow in assembly now very low :rtfm:.
a good decision by both parties before chinese PM visit.
lets work togather to achieve a more stronger pakistan
Saad rafiq has already hinted this morning NS will not attack khakis :tongue:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 02, 2014, 12:17:59 PM
bottom line is-
current situation cannot continue like this further,
army might b ordered by parliment to clear Red zone
,if they disobey-fine
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 02, 2014, 06:31:16 PM
ISPR latest statement-
could have been avoided by silent and short action against
2 dharnas.
now they r boxed `in`- they will have to act soon to prove their
neutrality :tongue:
jiay internet/social media and free media
laooooo maal soon
lagta have `deal ` done,
politicians on all side including hashmi now praising khakis (right move) as damage limitation excercise on
behalf of `state`, chances of major fireworks tomorrow in assembly now very low :rtfm:.
a good decision by both parties before chinese PM visit.
lets work togather to achieve a more stronger pakistan

Hashmi has resigned to protect E from further embarasment,
laoo more at kse tomorrow

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 02, 2014, 06:46:09 PM
bottom line is-
current situation cannot continue like this further,
army might b ordered by parliment to clear Red zone
,if they disobey-fine

yes,
backers no longer behind him ( no choice) but voluntary surrender/change of stance needed within
next 24 hours , lets c he is ditched altogather or still provided some kind of face saving exit

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 02, 2014, 07:09:35 PM
Sh.rashid no longer mentioning word `Qurbani` :tongue:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 02, 2014, 10:22:13 PM
bottom line is-
current situation cannot continue like this further,
army might b ordered by parliment to clear Red zone
,if they disobey-fine

yes,
backers no longer behind him ( no choice) but voluntary surrender/change of stance needed within
next 24 hours , lets c he is ditched altogather or still provided some kind of face saving exit
pti leaders xcluding IK appear demoralised and exhausted,
lagta haay IK will also surrender otherwise he will b abondoned
history has already  given its verdict on 2 dharnas and its backers
and there r lessons 2 b learnt for all involved paqrties.
optimists hope pakistan will finally catch up with Developed D`s at the next election
in terms 0f free vote , election sucess predominantly linked to delivery(40-50% would b good achievement)
,more accountability and improved governance.
v now expect significant improvement in governance both at the centre and in provinces and if that doesnt
happen politicians will not b able to reflect blame anymore and that process has already started on media(watch talat hussain 2/9/14)
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 02, 2014, 10:54:35 PM
Zardari battery esp for space

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/02/hum-sab-umeed-say-hain-1st-september-2014/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 02, 2014, 11:03:39 PM
Zardari battery esp for space

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/02/hum-sab-umeed-say-hain-1st-september-2014/

Thanks for thinking of me, but as a matter of principle, I cannot allow myself to watch anything even remotely related to Geo
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 02, 2014, 11:48:38 PM
Zardari battery esp for space

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/02/hum-sab-umeed-say-hain-1st-september-2014/

Thanks for thinking of me, but as a matter of principle, I cannot allow myself to watch anything even remotely related to Geo
thats good, but i feel such sharp attacks r needed to strengthen our D
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 02, 2014, 11:51:56 PM
bottom line is-
current situation cannot continue like this further,
army might b ordered by parliment to clear Red zone
,if they disobey-fine

yes,
backers no longer behind him ( no choice) but voluntary surrender/change of stance needed within
next 24 hours , lets c he is ditched altogather or still provided some kind of face saving exit
lagta haay both dharnas will end peacefully with siraj ul haq emerging as a real force in politics,
i wish more pakistanis will vote for Ji at the next election as that will help to reduce Corruption in politics
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on September 03, 2014, 02:01:33 AM
imran khan understood the power of parliament so asked all his mna's to come tomorrow while quershi deliver his speech. what will happen, no one knows, but yeah i agree that people should vote for JI in next election  :s1: 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 03, 2014, 02:45:23 AM
imran khan understood the power of parliament so asked all his mna's to come tomorrow while quershi deliver his speech. what will happen, no one knows, but yeah i agree that people should vote for JI in next election  :s1:
Bro,
kitnaay loog thaay previous call paar ?:dunno:
pti mna/mpa`s r divided ,its not a wise move  :confused1:,
he has understood power of parliment as usual after horse has been bolted
fall out from this failed adventure going to b much bigger for E, IK ,  pti and qadri
except for immature innocent souls and ignorant , any one who actively follows
pak politics will find it extremely difficult to vote for pti and I believe pakistanis
r smart people even though they have let qabza group destroy pakistan in silence
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 03, 2014, 03:55:28 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/11068811/Imran-Khan-plotted-with-army-to-oust-Nawaz-Sharif-colleague-claims.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on September 03, 2014, 04:12:01 AM
Before dharana, nobody would have thought that these burgers will come out to support its party for almost 15 days, PAT supporters staying there through thick and thin for 15 days and still they are there, for me that is a clear win for them.  whatever blunders pti did, one thing is for sure that nawaz sharif can't stand another crisis like this. the blunders he did during this whole saga just shows how poor politician he is, no wonder why his previous two governments failed.

I think the establishment is a clear winner in this whole situation, trying to stay out of politics and staying neutral while the judiciary has played a very poor role and most of the media was biased towards one or other party. 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 03, 2014, 04:51:27 AM
Before dharana, nobody would have thought that these burgers will come out to support its party for almost 15 days, PAT supporters staying there through thick and thin for 15 days and still they are there, for me that is a clear win for them.  whatever blunders pti did, one thing is for sure that nawaz sharif can't stand another crisis like this. the blunders he did during this whole saga just shows how poor politician he is, no wonder why his previous two governments failed.

I think the establishment is a clear winner in this whole situation, trying to stay out of politics and staying neutral while the judiciary has played a very poor role and most of the media was biased towards one or other party.
NS has emerged as weaker and less capable leader. He will b challenged within a year if sharifs do not change. Politicians have shown unity and now generosity by still trying to arrange face saving for IK. E role has never been so

openly exposed in public before and there is now ? in junta mind about their commitment to pakistan after it allowed over 800 billion damage to pak economy during an engineered crisis. Junta is questioning motive behind current crisis and reaching only 1 conclusion   :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SBM on September 03, 2014, 08:29:35 AM
Before dharana, nobody would have thought that these burgers will come out to support its party for almost 15 days, PAT supporters staying there through thick and thin for 15 days and still they are there, for me that is a clear win for them.  whatever blunders pti did, one thing is for sure that nawaz sharif can't stand another crisis like this. the blunders he did during this whole saga just shows how poor politician he is, no wonder why his previous two governments failed.

I think the establishment is a clear winner in this whole situation, trying to stay out of politics and staying neutral while the judiciary has played a very poor role and most of the media was biased towards one or other party.

to be fair to the aforementioned "burgers", they came in the evening, had fun, and went back home.
 :laugh:
&PAT looks more & more like  a cult. They aren't out there because they want a better future this and that, they are there because their "leader" has forced them to do so.

If Qadri sb had done and said these things against his adopted homeland, he would have been in jail long time ago.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: sanwar on September 03, 2014, 09:28:23 AM
@SBM bhai, how would have that adopted homeland reacted if the police had killed 14 unarmed civilians in broad daylight (captured live by several media) and the local administration were not willing to register FIR...??
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 03, 2014, 09:33:06 AM
@SBM bhai, how would have that adopted homeland reacted if the police had killed 14 unarmed civilians in broad daylight (captured live by several media) and the local administration were not willing to register FIR...??

The adopted homeland's govt would have stepped down without anyone even asking for a resignation. Internal Affairs department would have disarmed and suspended all cops involved in the killing of protesters, a real 'independent' inquiry would have been well on its way. AND instead of a need for a dharna, common people of adopted homelands "Model Town" would have made the place of the massacre a make shift memorial filling it up with flowers and lit candles every night till every last cop/political master would have been brought to justice.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jamalakhter on September 03, 2014, 11:39:22 AM
@SBM bhai, how would have that adopted homeland reacted if the police had killed 14 unarmed civilians in broad daylight (captured live by several media) and the local administration were not willing to register FIR...??

The adopted homeland's govt would have stepped down without anyone even asking for a resignation. Internal Affairs department would have disarmed and suspended all cops involved in the killing of protesters, a real 'independent' inquiry would have been well on its way. AND instead of a need for a dharna, common people of adopted homelands "Model Town" would have made the place of the massacre a make shift memorial filling it up with flowers and lit candles every night till every last cop/political master would have been brought to justice.
         
           And what about those who hostage islamabad and only for their ego paralysing the affairs of homeland
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: sanwar on September 03, 2014, 12:01:55 PM
@SBM bhai, how would have that adopted homeland reacted if the police had killed 14 unarmed civilians in broad daylight (captured live by several media) and the local administration were not willing to register FIR...??

The adopted homeland's govt would have stepped down without anyone even asking for a resignation. Internal Affairs department would have disarmed and suspended all cops involved in the killing of protesters, a real 'independent' inquiry would have been well on its way. AND instead of a need for a dharna, common people of adopted homelands "Model Town" would have made the place of the massacre a make shift memorial filling it up with flowers and lit candles every night till every last cop/political master would have been brought to justice.
         
           And what about those who hostage islamabad and only for their ego paralysing the affairs of homeland

@Space bhai, very well said... and Jamal bhai, if there was a responsible behavior from Govt. no one would have any excuse... the Govt. may survive this time, but the next protests will be more problematic... May Allah guide us all!
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 03, 2014, 12:51:35 PM
@SBM bhai, how would have that adopted homeland reacted if the police had killed 14 unarmed civilians in broad daylight (captured live by several media) and the local administration were not willing to register FIR...??

The adopted homeland's govt would have stepped down without anyone even asking for a resignation. Internal Affairs department would have disarmed and suspended all cops involved in the killing of protesters, a real 'independent' inquiry would have been well on its way. AND instead of a need for a dharna, common people of adopted homelands "Model Town" would have made the place of the massacre a make shift memorial filling it up with flowers and lit candles every night till every last cop/political master would have been brought to justice.

yehi chirag jalaay Gaay tu roshni hoo Gee :rtfm:
unarmed civilian will ultimately bow to social pressure and vote power
while trained and armed resist change far longer
evidence-history,history, history
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jamalakhter on September 03, 2014, 02:40:27 PM
It is quite obvious now that army and isi is behind this entire bullshit - Hope they fail miserable this time around   :rtfm:

Army’s questionable decisions

The carefully constructed veneer of neutrality that the army leadership had constructed through much of the national political crisis instigated by Imran Khan and Tahirul Qadri has been torn apart.
Also Read: ISPR statement reactions: Balanced, ominous - hedged?

First, came the army’s statement on Sunday, the third in a series of statements in recent days on the political crisis, which quite astonishingly elevated the legitimacy and credibility of the demands of Imran Khan, Tahirul Qadri and their violent protesters above that of the choices and actions of an elected government dealing with a political crisis.

Consider the sequence of events so far. When the army first publicly waded into the political crisis, it counselled restraint on all sides — as though it was the government that fundamentally still had some questions hanging over its legitimacy simply because Imran Khan and Tahirul Qadri alleged so.

Next, the army crept towards the Khan/Qadri camp by urging the government to facilitate negotiations — as though it was the government that was being unreasonable, and not Mr Khan and Mr Qadri.

Now, staggeringly, the army has ‘advised’ the government not to use force against violent protesters and essentially told it to make whatever concessions necessary to placate Mr Khan and Mr Qadri.

It is simply extraordinary that it is the PAT and PTI supporters who want to break into and occupy state buildings, but it is the government that has been rebuked. It’s as if the army is unaware — rather, unwilling — to acknowledge the constitutional scheme of things: it is the government that is supposed to give orders to the army, not the other way around. The government has already issued its order: invoking Article 245.

On Saturday, as violent thugs attacked parliament, it was surely the army’s duty to repel them.
But the soldiers stationed there did nothing and the army leadership the next day warned the government instead of the protesters — which largely explains why the protesters were able to continue their pitched battles with the police and attacked the PTV headquarters yesterday.
If that were not enough, yesterday also brought another thunderbolt: this time from within the PTI with party president Javed Hashmi indicating that Mr Khan is essentially doing what he has been asked and encouraged to do by the army leadership.

It took the ISPR a few hours to respond with the inevitable denial, but a mere denial is inadequate at this point. The functioning of the state stands paralysed because a few thousand protesters and their leaders have laid siege to state institutions.

Where is the army condemnation of that?

Would the army allow even a handful of peaceful protesters to gather outside GHQ for a few hours?

The army is hardly being ‘neutral’. It is making a choice.

And, it is disappointing that choice is doing little to strengthen the constitutional, democratic and legitimate scheme of things.

Published in Dawn, September 2nd, 2014
thanks bro  sumbal for sharing, strange PAK ARMY can go 2 such extend for ex president, IK height of selfishness.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 03, 2014, 03:45:39 PM
ISPR latest statement-
could have been avoided by silent and short action against
2 dharnas.
now they r boxed `in`- they will have to act soon to prove their
neutrality :tongue:
jiay internet/social media and free media
laooooo maal soon
hum naay tu kaha timely swift ,short and silent clean up would have brought less challenges :confused1:,
So even E can b indecisive ,slow and make mistake.
phir kehta hoo-
Haqeer samhaj k jinhaay bhuja (baar baar)dia tum naay,
Yehi chiraag jalaay gaay tu roshni hoo gee :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 03, 2014, 03:46:45 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/03-09-2014/u27581.htm
iss admi koo sharam choooo kaar b nahi guzreeee
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 03, 2014, 03:51:00 PM
Laoo maal front foot or as per space and bullbear corruption shroo :tongue:
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/03-09-2014/u27579.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 03, 2014, 04:40:50 PM
@SBM bhai, how would have that adopted homeland reacted if the police had killed 14 unarmed civilians in broad daylight (captured live by several media) and the local administration were not willing to register FIR...??

The adopted homeland's govt would have stepped down without anyone even asking for a resignation. Internal Affairs department would have disarmed and suspended all cops involved in the killing of protesters, a real 'independent' inquiry would have been well on its way. AND instead of a need for a dharna, common people of adopted homelands "Model Town" would have made the place of the massacre a make shift memorial filling it up with flowers and lit candles every night till every last cop/political master would have been brought to justice.
         
           And what about those who hostage islamabad and only for their ego paralysing the affairs of homeland

KINDLY read and understand, what I wrote means, the legal and govt's responsible acts would have never needed paralyzing the affairs of the city. When govt acts irresponsibly and unjustly, then, in a democratic nation, people will rise up and register their protest. When education level in Pakistan reaches 70%, you will see better level of protest, and at that time govt will also act responsibly. At present the looter rulers are being taught a lesson by a jahil awam, and rightly so, deal with it.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 03, 2014, 04:55:10 PM
@SBM bhai, how would have that adopted homeland reacted if the police had killed 14 unarmed civilians in broad daylight (captured live by several media) and the local administration were not willing to register FIR...??

The adopted homeland's govt would have stepped down without anyone even asking for a resignation. Internal Affairs department would have disarmed and suspended all cops involved in the killing of protesters, a real 'independent' inquiry would have been well on its way. AND instead of a need for a dharna, common people of adopted homelands "Model Town" would have made the place of the massacre a make shift memorial filling it up with flowers and lit candles every night till every last cop/political master would have been brought to justice.

yehi chirag jalaay Gaay tu roshni hoo Gee :rtfm:
unarmed civilian will ultimately bow to social pressure and vote power
while trained and armed resist change far longer
evidence-history,history, history

The greatest democracy of our times USA, how did it come into being ? did they vote the British out of power ? did they manage to abolish slavery by passing legislation after debating ? NO, they had to do a bloody and armed struggle.
Dead War for independence - 25,000
Dead American Civil war - 618,000

French revolution, every heard of it ? was is "social pressure" and use of vote ? NO - Dead minimum 40,000

Russian revolution of the 1917, debates ? votes ? social pressure ? NO - Dead 5,000,000 - 9,000,000

Mexican revolution of 1910-1920 debates ? votes ? social pressure ? NO - Dead 7,500,000

So HISTORY HISTORY HISTORY, kindly read a little history as well ;)
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 03, 2014, 05:33:38 PM
Space bro, many years ago during initial training, professor bola agar sirf book parhnaay saay admi expert hoo jata tu all of us would b mahir doc, lawyer, accountant etc  :rtfm: key is to  2 analyse take home message correctly :skeptic:
In this e-technology era, u dont need largescale bloodshed to bring change. look at lahore incident and subsequent police behaviour on qadri arrival to pakistan or very limited loss of lives during recent police action on dharna :skeptic:
Once v have crossed Next barrier i.e able 2 hold free and fair elections our D will jump straight from 2nd gear to 4th gear atleast :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: now politicians can no longer blame E or govern without delivering something to junta. Why not hold your negativity for 12 months and give hakeer politicians 1 last chance :confused1:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 03, 2014, 08:49:38 PM
Bhai its not like I can do anything, 12 months kya 12 years lay looo yaar. You said history history history, so I told you bhai history demands bloodshed to bring about any revolution. App boltay hain in the electronic age, revolution can happen without the need for bloodshed and even uneducated people can learn in super fast time, then I have one word for you : Iraq, votes huay, election huay, new constitution hui, much higher level of education in Iraq compared to Pakistan, much more resources compared to Pakistan and you can see the lovely results of "votes" and "elections" and the effect of the electronic age which all of a sudden makes everyone into a super critical thinker overnight ;)

As for disregarding books, here is a quote, maybe it will touch you maybe it won't :-

“Books are the quietest and most constant of friends; they are the most accessible and wisest of counselors, and the most patient of teachers.”
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 03, 2014, 09:01:20 PM
Bhai its not like I can do anything, 12 months kya 12 years lay looo yaar. You said history history history, so I told you bhai history demands bloodshed to bring about any revolution. App boltay hain in the electronic age, revolution can happen without the need for bloodshed and even uneducated people can learn in super fast time, then I have one word for you : Iraq, votes huay, election huay, new constitution hui, much higher level of education in Iraq compared to Pakistan, much more resources compared to Pakistan and you can see the lovely results of "votes" and "elections" and the effect of the electronic age which all of a sudden makes everyone into a super critical thinker overnight ;)

As for disregarding books, here is a quote, maybe it will touch you maybe it won't :-

“Books are the quietest and most constant of friends; they are the most accessible and wisest of counselors, and the most patient of teachers.”

Space bro,
pl avoid making iraq situation so simple :(
thora saa hint daay daayta hoo :rtfm:
one of factor which has resulted in civil war in iraq, that factor has helped us
to keep pakistan united following ongoing crisis :skeptic:
its too early to say what shape our D will take in future and whether E will now willingly gradually withdraw itself from
national politics or v will c more tug of wars b/w Parliment and E in coming months and years because
Gene aik haay :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 03, 2014, 09:10:31 PM
Buddy, the situation is similar, Iraq is divided along sectarian lines, there are 3 sects there, there are 4 regional languages and at a very minimum 2 sects in Pakistan. The entirety of Pakistan's state (including E and D/P) are corrupt, so history does tell us for such a nation to survive somewhere along the road there is bound to be a revolution/civil war. Do i want a civil war in Pakistan ? no obviously not, I simply do not know of any other examples of things becoming 'good' with all other factors remaining the same. In Pak majority os the people will never be educated and the leaders (D and E) will remain either corrupt or involved in self interest or in self preservation and everyday more people fall below the poverty line while the rich get richer, its an unstable/unsustainable system, when there is a growing cancer, you can simply cut that part of your body and throw it away and hope it never comes back, but what to do if the cancer is spread to all parts of the body ?
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 03, 2014, 09:18:57 PM
bhai resignation-
pl Grab it and keep away from E atleast in public :laugh:
bhai was voice of 90`s, health issues too not helping bhai Leadership
mqm needs to get rid of `party of Power` label,
their voters r more educated and politically aware,
in 2014, mqm got better chance of winning their argument against
urban-rural discrimination with logic and common sense and they have
got impressive faces like faisal sabzwari and others to do the job.
   
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 03, 2014, 09:22:44 PM
Buddy, the situation is similar, Iraq is divided along sectarian lines, there are 3 sects there, there are 4 regional languages and at a very minimum 2 sects in Pakistan. The entire nation of Pakistan's state (including E and D/P) are corrupt, so history does tell us for such a nation to survive somewhere along the road there is bound to be a revolution/civil war. Do i want a civil war in Pakistan ? no obviously not, I simply do not know of any other examples of things becoming 'good' with all other factors remaining the same. In Pak majority os the people will never be educated and the leaders (D and E) will remain either corrupt or involved in self interest or in self preservation and everyday more people fall below the poverty line while the rich get richer, its an unstable/unsustainable system, when there is a growing cancer, you can simply cut that part of your body and throw it away and hope it never comes back, but what to do if the cancer is spread to all parts of the body ?
dhaiktaay raho bro,
aakhir javed hashmi b issi Qaum naay paida kia haay
, lets end this subject here as its too taxing for both to keep responding,
koi tip bhaijoo bhai, thora forum koo entertain karnaay ka reward b tu millay :tongue:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 03, 2014, 09:40:58 PM
Buddy, the situation is similar, Iraq is divided along sectarian lines, there are 3 sects there, there are 4 regional languages and at a very minimum 2 sects in Pakistan. The entire nation of Pakistan's state (including E and D/P) are corrupt, so history does tell us for such a nation to survive somewhere along the road there is bound to be a revolution/civil war. Do i want a civil war in Pakistan ? no obviously not, I simply do not know of any other examples of things becoming 'good' with all other factors remaining the same. In Pak majority os the people will never be educated and the leaders (D and E) will remain either corrupt or involved in self interest or in self preservation and everyday more people fall below the poverty line while the rich get richer, its an unstable/unsustainable system, when there is a growing cancer, you can simply cut that part of your body and throw it away and hope it never comes back, but what to do if the cancer is spread to all parts of the body ?
dhaiktaay raho bro,
aakhir javed hashmi b issi Qaum naay paida kia haay
, lets end this subject here as its too taxing for both to keep responding,
koi tip bhaijoo bhai, thora forum koo entertain karnaay ka reward b tu millay :tongue:

Check PM
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 04, 2014, 12:04:36 AM
for Arsalan bro and for the record for our future Generations,
he is biased due to ideological differences but very good political commentator
, in this programme he is fairly balanced
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/03/special-transmission-on-geo-news-7pm-to-8pm-3rd-september-2014/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 04, 2014, 02:55:31 AM
esp for bullsbear and jaz
http://www.hindustantimes.com/comment/virsanghvi/we-are-not-the-same-people-says-aap/article1-1259702.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 04, 2014, 04:26:03 AM
badshah tu naked haay ,Dad :skeptic:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2014/09/140903_warning_about_hashmi_type_wusat_rk.shtml
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on September 04, 2014, 08:49:36 PM
for Arsalan bro and for the record for our future Generations,
he is biased due to ideological differences but very good political commentator
, in this programme he is fairly balanced
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/03/special-transmission-on-geo-news-7pm-to-8pm-3rd-september-2014/

Thanks for the share salaam bro.

Future generations like me are fed up of this system. This is just a fake democracy where only elite will benefit, nothing else. For our older generations, a video truly showing my emotions towards Pakistani democracy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-GPAih90VM

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 04, 2014, 09:09:18 PM
for Arsalan bro and for the record for our future Generations,
he is biased due to ideological differences but very good political commentator
, in this programme he is fairly balanced
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/03/special-transmission-on-geo-news-7pm-to-8pm-3rd-september-2014/

Thanks for the share salaam bro.

Future generations like me are fed up of this system. This is just a fake democracy where only elite will benefit, nothing else. For our older generations, a video truly showing my emotions towards Pakistani democracy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-GPAih90VM

yeh b dhaikhoooooooo :(


http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/04/pakistans-hidden-shame/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on September 04, 2014, 09:26:47 PM
for Arsalan bro and for the record for our future Generations,
he is biased due to ideological differences but very good political commentator
, in this programme he is fairly balanced
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/03/special-transmission-on-geo-news-7pm-to-8pm-3rd-september-2014/

Thanks for the share salaam bro.

Future generations like me are fed up of this system. This is just a fake democracy where only elite will benefit, nothing else. For our older generations, a video truly showing my emotions towards Pakistani democracy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-GPAih90VM

yeh b dhaikhoooooooo :(


http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/04/pakistans-hidden-shame/



These westerners always have and always will have double standards. They talk about Pakistani child abuse cases and then put them on cnn prime time to showcase how screwed up Pakistani societies are but yet they don't show the thousand of cases everyday come up in western societies and in some of the cases, the priests were also involved.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20981611
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-407808/Pope-led-cover-child-abuse-priests.html
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/09/02/uk-britain-abuse-rotherham-idUKKBN0GX1DN20140902
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/video-lostprophets-paedophile-ian-watkins-2915422
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 04, 2014, 09:38:55 PM
for Arsalan bro and for the record for our future Generations,
he is biased due to ideological differences but very good political commentator
, in this programme he is fairly balanced
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/03/special-transmission-on-geo-news-7pm-to-8pm-3rd-september-2014/

Thanks for the share salaam bro.

Future generations like me are fed up of this system. This is just a fake democracy where only elite will benefit, nothing else. For our older generations, a video truly showing my emotions towards Pakistani democracy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-GPAih90VM

Love Hassan Nisar, thanks for the share @arsalan
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 04, 2014, 09:43:47 PM
Arsalan bro,
thats their problem but v need solution to our problems,
Wrong koi b point out karaay, constructive approach is to
look at the scale of problem before dismissing it .
lorry drivers in western countries visit `allocated/identified` zones  for relief
so our long distance drivers /workers no different.
forced Delay in marraiges for economic reasons widespread and well identified issue,
v have seen horrific pictures of hyderabad `criminals zones`on our screen and like elsewhere females
in our country r more likely to be targeted by criminals.
male or female, afsoos yeh haay k 99.9% maulvis, politicians and E nominee avoid talking about such issues and prefer
to focus on sahadat . May Allah give all of us courage to discuss such painful issues   
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on September 04, 2014, 10:10:33 PM
Your welcome Space bro. Hassan nisar is a brilliant guy no doubt. 

I agree with everything you said Salam bro. There are policies for everything but theres no implementation, when there is no implementation, justice is not served and the result is what is happening in Pakistan. Alot of topics in Pakistan are very sensitive or taboo. nobody wants to talk about family planning, nobody wants to talk about anything relating to religion, or child abuse etc. We Pakistani just want to stay in circle defined by maulvis, politicians, and establishment. if someone tries to think out of context, they are labeled as fakirs, terrorist, and what not.

I think when justice is served, problems will solve.

"At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice he is the worst."
Aristotle

"Law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress."
Martin Luther King, Jr.



 

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 04, 2014, 10:18:37 PM
Arsalan bro,
thats their problem but v need solution to our problems,
Wrong koi b point out karaay, constructive approach is to
look at the scale of problem before dismissing it .
lorry drivers in western countries visit `allocated/identified` zones  for relief
so our long distance drivers /workers no different.
forced Delay in marraiges for economic reasons widespread and well identified issue,
v have seen horrific pictures of hyderabad `criminals zones`on our screen and like elsewhere females
in our country r more likely to be targeted by criminals.
male or female, afsoos yeh haay k 99.9% maulvis, politicians and E nominee avoid talking about such issues and prefer
to focus on sahadat . May Allah give all of us courage to discuss such painful issues
Hasan nisar is popular writer and like majority of newspaper writers love critisizing everyone(dont v all :skeptic:),
but in order to have impact on  people actions, one needs 2 lead by example,
i know his background from what he claims in his writing but on many occasions his language on
tv programmes have raised eyebrows.
i may b wrong but personally i feel majority of time v do not percieve others as human(may b angel or devil), easy 2 set minimum realistic standards but even more easier to agree on
un realistic and un achiveable higher goals (basically a lie).
acknowledge khakis power in third world countries , also admit in such countries ambitious civilian cannot reach top without E assistance and support. |if he delivers give him/her credit and if he then tries to boss around his maker accept this a natural progression as all of will do same thing in such circumtances. similarly u cannot have true D in countries where danda culture is idolised by big proportion of society and qaum is discipilined though use of force /fear instead of
voluntary code of conduct through education .
i read hasan nisar and company and hear others like him and just wish v can get use to using moderate /milder language, have more realistic expectations /goals all around and show bit of generosity when others falter and bit of humility when v err.  aisaa hoo jaayaee tu kia baat haay but Allah naay naiki and shaar insan maay aik saath dala haay so unrealistic
and hence enforced rule of law khappay agreed via head/thumb count




Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jamalakhter on September 04, 2014, 10:53:41 PM
Buddy, the situation is similar, Iraq is divided along sectarian lines, there are 3 sects there, there are 4 regional languages and at a very minimum 2 sects in Pakistan. The entirety of Pakistan's state (including E and D/P) are corrupt, so history does tell us for such a nation to survive somewhere along the road there is bound to be a revolution/civil war. Do i want a civil war in Pakistan ? no obviously not, I simply do not know of any other examples of things becoming 'good' with all other factors remaining the same. In Pak majority os the people will never be educated and the leaders (D and E) will remain either corrupt or involved in self interest or in self preservation and everyday more people fall below the poverty line while the rich get richer, its an unstable/unsustainable system, when there is a growing cancer, you can simply cut that part of your body and throw it away and hope it never comes back, but what to do if the cancer is spread to all parts of the body ?
         it is wrong 2 say everyone is corrupt EDHI HAS Three records in ginnee book of world,s record, YAaman, SIUT, SHOKAT KHANUM ,AKOOWAT BANK  and numbers of others
 r world class institutes, in phlanthropy and welfare work v r on top EUROPEAN countries do due 2 compulsion  because  after death 55% of property is govt RT and from heirs 15% tax is taken by govt
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 05, 2014, 12:07:42 AM
Buddy, the situation is similar, Iraq is divided along sectarian lines, there are 3 sects there, there are 4 regional languages and at a very minimum 2 sects in Pakistan. The entirety of Pakistan's state (including E and D/P) are corrupt, so history does tell us for such a nation to survive somewhere along the road there is bound to be a revolution/civil war. Do i want a civil war in Pakistan ? no obviously not, I simply do not know of any other examples of things becoming 'good' with all other factors remaining the same. In Pak majority os the people will never be educated and the leaders (D and E) will remain either corrupt or involved in self interest or in self preservation and everyday more people fall below the poverty line while the rich get richer, its an unstable/unsustainable system, when there is a growing cancer, you can simply cut that part of your body and throw it away and hope it never comes back, but what to do if the cancer is spread to all parts of the body ?
         it is wrong 2 say everyone is corrupt EDHI HAS Three records in ginnee book of world,s record, YAaman, SIUT, SHOKAT KHANUM ,AKOOWAT BANK  and numbers of others
 r world class institutes, in phlanthropy and welfare work v r on top EUROPEAN countries do due 2 compulsion  because  after death 55% of property is govt RT and from heirs 15% tax is taken by govt

Pardon me, I had made a mistake I had written "the entire of Pakistans state" I meant to write "the entirety of Pakistan STATE" I have made that correction.

EDHI/SHAUKAT KHANAM etc are not organs of the "STATE" of Pakistan, even tho I did make a typing mistake, it was abundantly clear I was referring to the political and establishment forces and leadership.

In welfare works we are on top ? seriously ? 21m people in Pakistan live on less than $19 per month. THIS IS YOUR PHILANTHROPY ON TOP. Welfare needs to come in from the STATE because it is a contract between STATE and PEOPLE that state will look after the people. This attitude that we Pakistanis are the greatest and the best and on top of everyone else (while being the biggest beggar STATE on the face of the earth) is why we will never succeed. WE have no patience for any criticism, no matter how correct. EVERY fault that is pointed out is either rejected or called a conspiracy of OTHERS against us, or buried under delusion of HOW GREAT WE ARE.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 05, 2014, 12:34:54 AM
http://m.bbc.co.uk/urdu/interactivity/2014/09/140904_social_media_pak_zs#orb-banner
2014 aisaa haay tu 2020 kaisa hoo ga  :good
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 05, 2014, 01:50:46 AM

Star value will keep him alive
http://www.hindustantimes.com/comment/rajdeepsardesai/both-dr-heckle-and-mr-hype/article1-1260110.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 05, 2014, 12:41:16 PM
Aitzaz speech suit both ppp and NS :tongue:,
NS dont trust nisar and nisar behaviour has been suspicious
yet again during dharna crisis-?E agent-laoo maal Re-shuffle soon :biggthumpup:
while PPP trying 2 emerge as real opposition in parliment following
failed dharnas.
Most importantly,
engineered tussle will take away remaining junta and media attention from dharnas to
Parliment fooling junta once again into thinking `tabdeeli` aa chuki hain :good
matbal now force unlikely against dyeing dharnas and it will b allowed to die its
natural death but politicians now forgetting v r in 2014 and people r far more informed
and media no longer in one party hands only
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 05, 2014, 01:03:18 PM
Aitzaz speech suit both ppp and NS :tongue:,
NS dont trust nisar and nisar behaviour has been suspicious
yet again during dharna crisis-?E agent-laoo maal Re-shuffle soon :biggthumpup:
while PPP trying 2 emerge as real opposition in parliment following
failed dharnas.
Most importantly,
engineered tussle will take away remaining junta and media attention from dharnas to
Parliment fooling junta once again into thinking `tabdeeli` aa chuki hain :good
matbal now force unlikely against dyeing dharnas and it will b allowed to die its
natural death but politicians now forgetting v r in 2014 and people r far more informed
and media no longer in one party hands only
Quote
this may be  a trap for pti/ik.
chinese PM not coming so nothing at stake.
both ik and tuq boasted about continuing dharnas for 1 year
So govt and ppp may want to finish IK for good







Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 05, 2014, 02:16:38 PM
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/09/05/us/bob-mcdonnell-maureen-mcdonnell-virginia-verdict.html?emc=edit_th_20140905&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=63742525&_r=0&referrer=
for NS and AZ -pak junta now looking for better governance and improved accontability
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 05, 2014, 05:25:10 PM
Imi aab dharna kaysaay khatam hoo ga :dunno:
Govt naay tu aab deal nahi karni baas prolong karna haay  :confused1:
Media koo b parliment naay hijack kaar liya huhu uuu huhu
hospital admit hona paraay ga shayid like mush :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 05, 2014, 08:20:14 PM
Imi aab dharna kaysaay khatam hoo ga :dunno:
Govt naay tu aab deal nahi karni baas prolong karna haay  :confused1:
Media koo b parliment naay hijack kaar liya huhu uuu huhu
hospital admit hona paraay ga shayid like mush :skeptic:
[/quote]

Siraj ul haq should now vanish otherwise badnam-e-zamana malik iss koo khaa jaayaee
ga aur he will b turned overnight from political heavyweight 2 lightweight :rtfm:
bhai politicians r very intelligent people who like to experiment all the time(that their kharish  :tongue:) -themselves and others , yeh kaam soldier nahi kaar sakta  :rtfm:
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/05/acceptance-of-5-points-turned-out-to-be-myth-govts-rejoinder-is-contrary-to-earlier-claims-shah-mehmood-qureshi-media-talk/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 05, 2014, 10:00:10 PM
Geo and pml N suddenly on front foot regarding unofficial and forced `BAN`,
if v want politicians to play fair then demand same from E so junta benefits
from both ends.
if Geo is anti-state, now is the time to provide evidence in court esp after hashmi
revealations regarding possible judiciary role in resolving dharna crisis
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 05, 2014, 10:37:31 PM
this is the moment to finish nisar but PM too indecisive and slow in his third term
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2014/09/140905_ch_nisar_wusat_zs.shtml




Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 06, 2014, 11:56:29 AM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/06-09-2014/col1.html
after a long time, a more objective assessment
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 06, 2014, 12:14:05 PM
http://m.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2014/09/140905_inqalabi_on_rent_tk
i remember fawad chaudary telling moeed pirzada on tv about these poor people describing them as 'fuel' , this is also pure and naked expliotation by all involved
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 06, 2014, 02:42:35 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/06-09-2014/col2.htm
Khar left pakistan after zab arrest and for several years kept threating to reveal secret behind his buzdali. These secrets still with him but no one interested :tongue: bullsbears also kept telling us i cant tell everything now during dharna crisis and no longer interested to know those secrets but make sense to try and find answers 2 saleem safi valid questions as these  effect us and future generations
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 06, 2014, 04:11:57 PM
worrying time for politicians
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/06/%D8%BA%DB%8C%D8%B1-%D8%A2%D8%A6%DB%8C%D9%86%DB%8C-%DA%AF%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%A7-%D8%A8%DA%BE%DB%8C-%D8%A2%DA%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on September 06, 2014, 07:02:30 PM
How did the sound guys miss this one in the on going dharnas? 

super hit hoga :D
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 06, 2014, 09:23:57 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/06-09-2014/u27830.htm
Nora fight finished earlier then expected probably due 2 heavy floods , to avoid junta /media anger
Qadri may end dharna anytime taking advantage of heavy floods , imran khan exit
Now completely in people hands  sitting inside parliment and i doubt ik has got any friend left there :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 06, 2014, 09:55:06 PM
failed Dharna fallout-
Geo advert revenue up from nil to significant
, worrying for IK
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 07, 2014, 06:15:38 AM
another u turn on resignations can only weaken mqm further . PPP will continue to resist LB elections in sindh until and unless forced by courts or more effective mqm and that appear unlikely at present.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 07, 2014, 10:24:29 AM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/07-09-2014/col6.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 07, 2014, 01:31:01 PM
http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/17997/Haroon-ur-Rasheed/Ju-Uqal-Ka-Gulam-Hu-wo-Dil-Na-Ker-Qabool.aspx
Maay na manoo group boss ,
Purani habit haay joo disagree karaay label him Raw agent or lifafa journalist.
For decades he has been lecturing others 2 show sportman spirit but khud naay kuch nahi seekhna.
May Allah protect pakland junta from such jouralists
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 07, 2014, 08:17:58 PM
Good one
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2014/09/140907_baat_se_baat_sq.shtml
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 07, 2014, 08:28:31 PM
way forward for all politicians esp NS
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102412477&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140907
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 09, 2014, 01:22:38 AM
http://tribune.com.pk/story/759584/bugti-murder-case-atc-orders-musharraf-to-appear-in-person-on-october-13/

youngblood-maat chorna/latka doo
saner element-janaay doo,history may remember u longer
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 09, 2014, 01:43:03 AM
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102414018&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140908
boola na,
either imran voluntarily leaves empty handed  :$:
or now Govt will keep moving Goal post until pti agrees to accept
minimum of the minimum :confused1:
longer dharna continues, weaker IK will get :rtfm:
no sympathies on my part as country has already suffered huge losses
and pti has failed to produce solid evidence supporting substantial
election rigging or taken so called accused to courts
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/06/aapas-ki-baat-another-character-of-azadiinqlaab-march-exposed-by-najam-sethi-6th-september-2014/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 09, 2014, 01:58:42 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x25hici_hum-sab-umeed-say-hain-08-sep-2014-march-aaway-ga_news?from_related=related.page.int.gravity-only.5d169b725c6a69f072947b9fe82604b2141020969
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: sanwar on September 09, 2014, 08:51:29 AM
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102414018&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140908
boola na,
either imran voluntarily leaves empty handed  :$:
or now Govt will keep moving Goal post until pti agrees to accept
minimum of the minimum :confused1:
longer dharna continues, weaker IK will get :rtfm:
no sympathies on my part as country has already suffered huge losses
and pti has failed to produce solid evidence supporting substantial
election rigging or taken so called accused to courts
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/06/aapas-ki-baat-another-character-of-azadiinqlaab-march-exposed-by-najam-sethi-6th-september-2014/

Dear Salammembers bhai, reference to your comment "pti has failed to produce solid evidence supporting substantial election rigging or taken so called accused to courts"... can you please comment why are we seeing a series of stay orders from pml-n assembly members...??
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 09, 2014, 10:59:32 PM

such tu yehi haay :rtfm:
baqi 80-90% leaders ki batain jhoot haay :(
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102414893&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140909
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 09, 2014, 11:33:10 PM
ik cannot be pak PM now by legal or illegal route,
just wasting his and other `s time by continuing his dharna,

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/09/hasil-bizenjo-blasts-on-imran-khan-during-media-talk/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 10, 2014, 10:53:09 AM
last para for some members from ayaz amir
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/10-09-2014/col1.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 10, 2014, 10:56:48 AM
last para for some members from ayaz amir
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/10-09-2014/col1.html

http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/10-09-2014/col4.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 10, 2014, 11:10:51 PM
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102414018&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140908
boola na,
either imran voluntarily leaves empty handed  :$:
or now Govt will keep moving Goal post until pti agrees to accept
minimum of the minimum :confused1:
longer dharna continues, weaker IK will get :rtfm:
no sympathies on my part as country has already suffered huge losses
and pti has failed to produce solid evidence supporting substantial
election rigging or taken so called accused to courts
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/06/aapas-ki-baat-another-character-of-azadiinqlaab-march-exposed-by-najam-sethi-6th-september-2014/

Dear Salammembers bhai, reference to your comment "pti has failed to produce solid evidence supporting substantial election rigging or taken so called accused to courts"... can you please comment why are we seeing a series of stay orders from pml-n assembly members...??
sanwar bro,
pakland maay koi cheez `khalis` nahi milti,
so some rigging was expected and what pml N elected members r doing is no
different to what has happened in previous elections-Ghalat baat but
by tradition nothing out of ordinary .
v know all pre election surveys indicated pml N majority and seatwise pre-election figures  generally
matched post election results, secondly even if u give pti all the seats where
they have appealed even then pml N will retain comfortable majority.
Even most recent surveys continues to indicate pml N remains more popular than pti in punjab.
Every pakistani fully support
further improvement in voting process and electoral system but when ik demand our
system to b more efficient than the US/EU tu i know he is not straight with junta.
Pti won votes due to its `change` slogan and DHA junta came to polling stations for same reason
but if IK is going to b seen as biggest liar in pak politics tu phir konsa change aur kaha ka
`change` . he raised junta expectations by promising he will b `whiter than white` in  politics
and in Govt. Has he managed to honour his words :(
any Inqilabi party popularity rely heavily on being trustworthy and credible, unfortunately u can no longer
associate these qualities with IK and in that case u cannot insist `corrupt nahi`   
 








Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 10, 2014, 11:18:52 PM
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102414018&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140908
boola na,
either imran voluntarily leaves empty handed  :$:
or now Govt will keep moving Goal post until pti agrees to accept
minimum of the minimum :confused1:
longer dharna continues, weaker IK will get :rtfm:
no sympathies on my part as country has already suffered huge losses
and pti has failed to produce solid evidence supporting substantial
election rigging or taken so called accused to courts
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/06/aapas-ki-baat-another-character-of-azadiinqlaab-march-exposed-by-najam-sethi-6th-september-2014/

Dharna AUR lamba karwaooooooooooo/ik koo 2018 saay pehlaay nahi janaay dayna-PM :tongue:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 11, 2014, 12:10:52 AM
Debates exist on the authorship of the six points. In 1966, the then Bhashani NAP, pro-China Communist groups and Chhatra Union (Menon Group) were the first to articulate their reaction. They claimed that the six points were in fact the creation of the CIA. Its aim was to develop rapport with the USA by creating problems for Ayub Khan. But such an explanation on the origin of 6 points was not accepted or proved by anyone later.
Some people opine that the six points were in fact the creation of some Bengali CSP officers – Ruhul Quddus, Shamsur Rahman Khan, Ahmed Fazlur Rahman. A segment of the people are of the view that the six points were the joint production of intellectuals including the economics professors of Dhaka University.
Alongside this, others believe that the six points were prepared by a group of leftist politicians of India.
There was another segment who used to claim that Ayub Khan used his favorite bureaucrat Altaf Gauhar to prepare the document and then handed that over to Khairul Kabir (the then General Manager of Krishi Bank). His goal was to elicit political dividends.
Because of these contradictory claims and contrary views regarding the drafting of six points, its origin still remains unclear and shrouded in mystery.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: sanwar on September 11, 2014, 08:17:27 AM
... and we will keep speculating about who wrote the points in the past and who may have written these now... instead of looking at what is written there... are these points irrelevant to what has happened in past 14-months... did we do anything in past 14-months to stop people to take the extreme measure of coming on to street... for sake of argument, if we consider the allegation of rigging on govt. was incorrect, why do we see "stay orders" by the ruling politicians against cases... I believe that we are mature enough to understand these "tricks"... unfortunately, we will keep beating the dead horse and not realize/acknowledge our mistakes... as a nation, the primary reason of our failure is that we will try to find any "justification" to support the people we like... even if deep down inside our hearts we know that the people we are supporting are not letting justice to be done... it seems that there was far more democracy in the last dictatorship than the dictatorial arrogance/attitude that we are experiencing under current democracy...
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 11, 2014, 08:44:25 AM
... and we will keep speculating about who wrote the points in the past and who may have written these now... instead of looking at what is written there... are these points irrelevant to what has happened in past 14-months... did we do anything in past 14-months to stop people to take the extreme measure of coming on to street... for sake of argument, if we consider the allegation of rigging on govt. was incorrect, why do we see "stay orders" by the ruling politicians against cases... I believe that we are mature enough to understand these "tricks"... unfortunately, we will keep beating the dead horse and not realize/acknowledge our mistakes... as a nation, the primary reason of our failure is that we will try to find any "justification" to support the people we like... even if deep down inside our hearts we know that the people we are supporting are not letting justice to be done... it seems that there was far more democracy in the last dictatorship than the dictatorial arrogance/attitude that we are experiencing under current democracy...
bro,
No human is totally black nor completely white . Developed countries support strong opposition but simultaneously opposition act in a responsible and credible manner. NS appear indecisive and less capable leader during current term, but pti  has failed to perform as credible opposition  :rtfm: opposition is considered Govt in waiting, do u think pti has done enough in kp and parliment to justify more votes in next election :skeptic:  dictators r not judged by their achievements because they r not restricted by hurdles faced by elected leader. Dictators r judged by state of country at time of their exit otherwise both gaddafi and saddam would still b alive in history.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: sanwar on September 11, 2014, 11:12:59 AM
... and we will keep speculating about who wrote the points in the past and who may have written these now... instead of looking at what is written there... are these points irrelevant to what has happened in past 14-months... did we do anything in past 14-months to stop people to take the extreme measure of coming on to street... for sake of argument, if we consider the allegation of rigging on govt. was incorrect, why do we see "stay orders" by the ruling politicians against cases... I believe that we are mature enough to understand these "tricks"... unfortunately, we will keep beating the dead horse and not realize/acknowledge our mistakes... as a nation, the primary reason of our failure is that we will try to find any "justification" to support the people we like... even if deep down inside our hearts we know that the people we are supporting are not letting justice to be done... it seems that there was far more democracy in the last dictatorship than the dictatorial arrogance/attitude that we are experiencing under current democracy...
bro,
No human is totally black nor completely white . Developed countries support strong opposition but simultaneously opposition act in a responsible and credible manner. NS appear indecisive and less capable leader during current term, but pti  has failed to perform as credible opposition  :rtfm: opposition is considered Govt in waiting, do u think pti has done enough in kp and parliment to justify more votes in next election :skeptic:  dictators r not judged by their achievements because they r not restricted by hurdles faced by elected leader. Dictators r judged by state of country at time of their exit otherwise both gaddafi and saddam would still b alive in history.
My Dear Brother, can you please just respond to the question "why is govt. members taking stay orders against recounting and rigging cases in tribunals and courts?"...
if let justice done, things would improve with time... but hindrance in getting justice will only make things worse...
More or less votes in next election will be seen when the elections will be held... however, result of recent DI Khan by-election should be indication for those who want to understand... It is so unfortunate that we see more achievement in dictator's time than during democracy ... or is it demo-crazy??
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: GEMINI on September 11, 2014, 11:40:24 AM
... and we will keep speculating about who wrote the points in the past and who may have written these now... instead of looking at what is written there... are these points irrelevant to what has happened in past 14-months... did we do anything in past 14-months to stop people to take the extreme measure of coming on to street... for sake of argument, if we consider the allegation of rigging on govt. was incorrect, why do we see "stay orders" by the ruling politicians against cases... I believe that we are mature enough to understand these "tricks"... unfortunately, we will keep beating the dead horse and not realize/acknowledge our mistakes... as a nation, the primary reason of our failure is that we will try to find any "justification" to support the people we like... even if deep down inside our hearts we know that the people we are supporting are not letting justice to be done... it seems that there was far more democracy in the last dictatorship than the dictatorial arrogance/attitude that we are experiencing under current democracy...
bro,
No human is totally black nor completely white . Developed countries support strong opposition but simultaneously opposition act in a responsible and credible manner. NS appear indecisive and less capable leader during current term, but pti  has failed to perform as credible opposition  :rtfm: opposition is considered Govt in waiting, do u think pti has done enough in kp and parliment to justify more votes in next election :skeptic:  dictators r not judged by their achievements because they r not restricted by hurdles faced by elected leader. Dictators r judged by state of country at time of their exit otherwise both gaddafi and saddam would still b alive in history.
My Dear Brother, can you please just respond to the question "why is govt. members taking stay orders against recounting and rigging cases in tribunals and courts?"...
if let justice done, things would improve with time... but hindrance in getting justice will only make things worse...
More or less votes in next election will be seen when the elections will be held... however, result of recent DI Khan by-election should be indication for those who want to understand... It is so unfortunate that we see more achievement in dictator's time than during democracy ... or is it demo-crazy??
By-election does not represent the actual vote power of the whole country.
PMLN voter is thier when election held by Musharaf regim and Shahbaz Shaief become CM of Pakistan. Its only a bullshit game IK is playing.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 11, 2014, 12:03:37 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/11-09-2014/col4.htm
note last 2 lines of this column , lets c what happens in next 3 weeks
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 11, 2014, 12:12:43 PM
... and we will keep speculating about who wrote the points in the past and who may have written these now... instead of looking at what is written there... are these points irrelevant to what has happened in past 14-months... did we do anything in past 14-months to stop people to take the extreme measure of coming on to street... for sake of argument, if we consider the allegation of rigging on govt. was incorrect, why do we see "stay orders" by the ruling politicians against cases... I believe that we are mature enough to understand these "tricks"... unfortunately, we will keep beating the dead horse and not realize/acknowledge our mistakes... as a nation, the primary reason of our failure is that we will try to find any "justification" to support the people we like... even if deep down inside our hearts we know that the people we are supporting are not letting justice to be done... it seems that there was far more democracy in the last dictatorship than the dictatorial arrogance/attitude that we are experiencing under current democracy...
bro,
No human is totally black nor completely white . Developed countries support strong opposition but simultaneously opposition act in a responsible and credible manner. NS appear indecisive and less capable leader during current term, but pti  has failed to perform as credible opposition  :rtfm: opposition is considered Govt in waiting, do u think pti has done enough in kp and parliment to justify more votes in next election :skeptic:  dictators r not judged by their achievements because they r not restricted by hurdles faced by elected leader. Dictators r judged by state of country at time of their exit otherwise both gaddafi and saddam would still b alive in history.
My Dear Brother, can you please just respond to the question "why is govt. members taking stay orders against recounting and rigging cases in tribunals and courts?"...
if let justice done, things would improve with time... but hindrance in getting justice will only make things worse...
More or less votes in next election will be seen when the elections will be held... however, result of recent DI Khan by-election should be indication for those who want to understand... It is so unfortunate that we see more achievement in dictator's time than during democracy ... or is it demo-crazy??

Sir jee,
pl arrange dharna to focus on rigging and recounting ONLY and i will join u shouq saay :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
but Govt has already accepted rigging related demands and whole parliment willing 2 act as Gaurantor:rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: sanwar on September 11, 2014, 04:21:54 PM
... and we will keep speculating about who wrote the points in the past and who may have written these now... instead of looking at what is written there... are these points irrelevant to what has happened in past 14-months... did we do anything in past 14-months to stop people to take the extreme measure of coming on to street... for sake of argument, if we consider the allegation of rigging on govt. was incorrect, why do we see "stay orders" by the ruling politicians against cases... I believe that we are mature enough to understand these "tricks"... unfortunately, we will keep beating the dead horse and not realize/acknowledge our mistakes... as a nation, the primary reason of our failure is that we will try to find any "justification" to support the people we like... even if deep down inside our hearts we know that the people we are supporting are not letting justice to be done... it seems that there was far more democracy in the last dictatorship than the dictatorial arrogance/attitude that we are experiencing under current democracy...
bro,
No human is totally black nor completely white . Developed countries support strong opposition but simultaneously opposition act in a responsible and credible manner. NS appear indecisive and less capable leader during current term, but pti  has failed to perform as credible opposition  :rtfm: opposition is considered Govt in waiting, do u think pti has done enough in kp and parliment to justify more votes in next election :skeptic:  dictators r not judged by their achievements because they r not restricted by hurdles faced by elected leader. Dictators r judged by state of country at time of their exit otherwise both gaddafi and saddam would still b alive in history.
My Dear Brother, can you please just respond to the question "why is govt. members taking stay orders against recounting and rigging cases in tribunals and courts?"...
if let justice done, things would improve with time... but hindrance in getting justice will only make things worse...
More or less votes in next election will be seen when the elections will be held... however, result of recent DI Khan by-election should be indication for those who want to understand... It is so unfortunate that we see more achievement in dictator's time than during democracy ... or is it demo-crazy??

Sir jee,
pl arrange dharna to focus on rigging and recounting ONLY and i will join u shouq saay :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
but Govt has already accepted rigging related demands and whole parliment willing 2 act as Gaurantor:rtfm:
Boss, I find it hard to digest that you will ever join any protest against this particular govt... :)
Simple reason being, I have asked same question about "stay order" twice, but you have not answered it once...
Let me put it again from your message... if the government is willing to accept rigging related demands, why are govt. members taking stay orders again and again...
just think, if there wasn't a strong demand for PM resignation, who would have talked about other points...
By the way, the current PM himself made the same demands in past when his party was in opposition... at that time it was constitutional demand and now it has become illegal... one can only laugh on the sincerity of the government and parliament being guarantor for justice...
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 11, 2014, 04:57:48 PM
Sanwar bro,
R u against D or current parliment or NS?
Please clarify so i can deal with the issue.
my view is whole world recognise pak people and their govt and all related organisations r CORRUPT  :rtfm:
but life has 2 go on with those limitations. What imran is doing is to label every individual/body corrupt to justify his dharna /protest movement without specifying a system against which he will not raise any objection particularly in relation to its integrity anytime in future. i am sure many qualified and honest people have been put off by tbis IMRANI culture
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: sanwar on September 11, 2014, 08:37:17 PM
Dear Salammember bhai,
I believe it is not matter of providing justification for democracy, parliament, or any leader or their (IMRANI or NAWAZI) culture.
Any constitution is put into place for well being of a nation... we all will agree that every time the constitution has been used selectively for the people who are elected (fairly or unfairly)... majority of population is still awaiting its fruit...
by the way these "dharnas" have created some awareness among common people about what is actually written in the constitution... At least, I wonder how some of the candidates qualify to run as members of parliaments because they have criminal cases against them, they are loan and utility bills defaulters, and many are liars (look at their lifestyle and the amount of tax they pay)...
many people and most of the leaders (because they have authority and hence more liability) have proved us as corrupt nation... Shutting our eyes will not change the reality... we have to do something and take some actions to prove it wrong or correct it in future...
You are absolutely right, life has to move on and we along with it... but if we want our nation to make any progress, we should learn from our mistakes... Otherwise, we will find ourselves falling in the dark pit...
To begin with, at least, we should learn to accept/acknowledge mistakes/weaknesses of our leaders (who ever they are) and should try not to be offended if someone highlights any mistake.
In fact, it is responsibility of the follower of any political party to highlight mistakes of their leaders, so that they can be cautious and try to improve their behavior with people and especially opponents... I hope  we will develop enough tolerance to hear anything bad about our dear leaders and answer tough questions...
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 11, 2014, 08:49:06 PM
Dear Salammember bhai,
I believe it is not matter of providing justification for democracy, parliament, or any leader or their (IMRANI or NAWAZI) culture.
Any constitution is put into place for well being of a nation... we all will agree that every time the constitution has been used selectively for the people who are elected (fairly or unfairly)... majority of population is still awaiting its fruit...
by the way these "dharnas" have created some awareness among common people about what is actually written in the constitution... At least, I wonder how some of the candidates qualify to run as members of parliaments because they have criminal cases against them, they are loan and utility bills defaulters, and many are liars (look at their lifestyle and the amount of tax they pay)...
many people and most of the leaders (because they have authority and hence more liability) have proved us as corrupt nation... Shutting our eyes will not change the reality... we have to do something and take some actions to prove it wrong or correct it in future...
You are absolutely right, life has to move on and we along with it... but if we want our nation to make any progress, we should learn from our mistakes... Otherwise, we will find ourselves falling in the dark pit...
To begin with, at least, we should learn to accept/acknowledge mistakes/weaknesses of our leaders (who ever they are) and should try not to be offended if someone highlights any mistake.
In fact, it is responsibility of the follower of any political party to highlight mistakes of their leaders, so that they can be cautious and try to improve their behavior with people and especially opponents... I hope  we will develop enough tolerance to hear anything bad about our dear leaders and answer tough questions...
v can try to highlight these issues on tv/Radio, newspapers ,social forums etc and vote for Ji or least corrupt candidate until
system has evolved further
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 11, 2014, 09:28:11 PM
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/11/bbc-news-report-on-ptis-performance-in-kpk/
progress -yes but not enough to ensure /justify million march success :(
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 11, 2014, 09:32:24 PM
I will like to Congratulate Group management for allowing political discussion on this forum at a very critical time in Pakistan history ,
i trust this was allowed because forum mngt appreciates close link between Pak politics and kse  :thanks:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 11, 2014, 10:03:08 PM
I will like to Congratulate Group management for allowing political discussion on this forum at a very critical time in Pakistan history ,
i trust this was allowed because forum mngt appreciates close link between Pak politics and kse  :thanks:

Bro I created this thread back in 2012, to ensure people discuss politics here and not on the KSE100 or LATEST NEWS thread. Its just that I was absent from the forum for a while, and people stopped posting to this thread and so everyone forgot about this thread :D

Glad its being used now!
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 11, 2014, 10:20:33 PM
I will like to Congratulate Group management for allowing political discussion on this forum at a very critical time in Pakistan history ,
i trust this was allowed because forum mngt appreciates close link between Pak politics and kse  :thanks:

Bro I created this thread back in 2012, to ensure people discuss politics here and not on the KSE100 or LATEST NEWS thread. Its just that I was absent from the forum for a while, and people stopped posting to this thread and so everyone forgot about this thread :D

Glad its being used now!

u r no doubt 5 * General :thanks:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 11, 2014, 10:32:17 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/11-09-2014/u28205.htm
and ik continues 2 make fresh allegations daily in dharna speeches (live telecast to millions)
this is madness and courts need to intervene urgently, he has already gone too far and futher
inaction on judicary part is  inexcuseable
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 11, 2014, 10:36:07 PM
http://www.dawn.com/news/1131303/fafen-calls-on-ecp-to-urgently-release-election-result-forms
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 12, 2014, 12:29:05 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/11-09-2014/u28205.htm
and ik continues 2 make fresh allegations daily in dharna speeches (live telecast to millions)
this is madness and courts need to intervene urgently, he has already gone too far and futher
inaction on judicary part is  inexcuseable
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/12-09-2014/u28258.htm
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/12-09-2014/u28259.htm
way things r going, end cant b far 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 12, 2014, 07:06:03 PM
The last rites over the weekend :skeptic:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/12-09-2014/u28287.htm

http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/12-09-2014/u28289.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 12, 2014, 07:24:43 PM
Aaoo mulk more united and strong karaay
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/12-09-2014/u28280.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 12, 2014, 08:54:59 PM
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/12/hot-exchange-of-words-between-aitzaz-ahsan-and-ishaq-dar-in-parliament/
let them burn their blood and damage their health for fame, money is less attractive for these souls and this applies to both eu and usa.
Talent hota haay, they r also hard working but power deemag kharaab kaar dayta haay
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 13, 2014, 08:51:14 AM
http://m.timesofindia.com/India/Hafiz-Saeed-blames-India-for-Pakistan-floods-calls-it-water-terrorism/articleshow/42116443.cms
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/13-09-2014/col1.html

though ayaz amir role during early days of dharna was completely one sided, he has shown great courage in contradicting hafiz saeed accusations, unfortunately political leadership too weak to give accurate and unbiased picture  to junta. This is the moment to sell KBD to smaller provinces but NS for some reason appear preoccupied and indecisive  as PM  and still struggling  to built a team which is popular and percieved capable of solving junta problems








Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 13, 2014, 01:25:23 PM
september-2014/http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/12/aapas-ki-baat-dg-ispr-press-conference-ab-koi-abaham-na-rahe-for khassi lovers :tongue:
najam sethi describe Govt as khassi (24th min) but also display his courage and reason why iron man rule is no substitute to D











Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 13, 2014, 11:43:55 PM
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/13/sheikh-rasheed-blasted-speech-in-azadi-march-13th-september-2014/
script kis naay likha haay :skeptic:
script tumharaay baap naay likha haay :tongue:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 13, 2014, 11:50:02 PM
quote author=Salammembers link=topic=1118.msg177203#msg177203 date=1410456737]
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/11-09-2014/u28205.htm
and ik continues 2 make fresh allegations daily in dharna speeches (live telecast to millions)
this is madness and courts need to intervene urgently, he has already gone too far and futher
inaction on judicary part is  inexcuseable
[/quote]
Ik is either totally ignorant of pak political culture or total and complete oppurtunist :down:
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/12/zafarullah-khan-jamali-telling-an-old-story-blasted-on-imran-khan/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 14, 2014, 11:03:50 AM
damning column on IK
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102424371&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140914
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 14, 2014, 12:29:41 PM
politicians, parliment, khakis and now higher JUDICIARY under microscope and feeling
under pressure :skeptic:
these r all positive signs :fingerscrossed1:
http://www.dawn.com/news/1131915/ihc-orders-release-of-arrested-protesters
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: MZ on September 14, 2014, 05:04:12 PM
politicians, parliment, khakis and now higher JUDICIARY under microscope and feeling
under pressure :skeptic:
these r all positive signs :fingerscrossed1:
http://www.dawn.com/news/1131915/ihc-orders-release-of-arrested-protesters

the credit goes to IK  :s1:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 14, 2014, 07:03:51 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/14-09-2014/u28434.htm
this and unhindered stoning of Geo office may bring mandee back
at kse on monday huhu huhu huhu
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 14, 2014, 07:06:05 PM
politicians, parliment, khakis and now higher JUDICIARY under microscope and feeling
under pressure :skeptic:
these r all positive signs :fingerscrossed1:
http://www.dawn.com/news/1131915/ihc-orders-release-of-arrested-protesters

the credit goes to IK  :s1:

MZ bro,
now condemn ik for following as well
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102424371&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140914
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 14, 2014, 10:15:17 PM
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/14/aapas-ki-baat-30-days-of-protests-14th-september-2014/
If courts can release pti supporters than it must also direct police to register fir and arrest imran khan for inciting violence
and possible treason warna history will write NS, E and JUDICIARY  remained silent while country was being pushed towards anarchy and civil war :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 14, 2014, 11:43:50 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/14-09-2014/u28434.htm
this and unhindered stoning of Geo office may bring mandee back
at kse on monday huhu huhu huhu

Only stoning ? I am a pacifist but even I will look the other way if something much more drastic transpired at this treasonous so called news organization. Treachery thy name is GEO  :rtfm: :rtfm: :rtfm: :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 15, 2014, 11:46:42 AM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/14-09-2014/u28434.htm
this and unhindered stoning of Geo office may bring mandee back
at kse on monday huhu huhu huhu

Only stoning ? I am a pacifist but even I will look the other way if something much more drastic transpired at this treasonous so called news organization. Treachery thy name is GEO  :rtfm: :rtfm: :rtfm: :rtfm:

Space bro,
zara insaf k saath ,zara common sense k saath booloo,
unlike ik keep emotions away,
if v got proof why not get Geo banned in pak Kangroo courts :skeptic:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/762417/offence-bizenjo-was-jailed-for-writing-slogan-on-banknote/
zulm k yeh nishan take DECADES to heal,
what IK is saying and doing is being RECORDED in history and v r very likely 2 c ACTION REPLAYS all over the country,
aap yeha saay `i told u, pakland is a write off` keh kaar sirf spectator hoo Gaay

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/15/imrankhan-getting-workers-released-from-police-on-road/

zulm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SBM on September 15, 2014, 12:45:50 PM
http://www.dawn.com/news/1131545/herald-exclusive-fast-forward-to-the-past

http://www.dawn.com/news/1131461/politics-is-a-different-ball-game-but-pti-captain-plays-on-to-win
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 15, 2014, 04:47:42 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/14-09-2014/u28434.htm
this and unhindered stoning of Geo office may bring mandee back
at kse on monday huhu huhu huhu

Only stoning ? I am a pacifist but even I will look the other way if something much more drastic transpired at this treasonous so called news organization. Treachery thy name is GEO  :rtfm: :rtfm: :rtfm: :rtfm:

Space bro,
zara insaf k saath ,zara common sense k saath booloo,
unlike ik keep emotions away,
if v got proof why not get Geo banned in pak Kangroo courts :skeptic:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/762417/offence-bizenjo-was-jailed-for-writing-slogan-on-banknote/
zulm k yeh nishan take DECADES to heal,
what IK is saying and doing is being RECORDED in history and v r very likely 2 c ACTION REPLAYS all over the country,
aap yeha saay `i told u, pakland is a write off` keh kaar sirf spectator hoo Gaay

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/15/imrankhan-getting-workers-released-from-police-on-road/

zulm

If you choose not to see what GEO wanted to do with the episode against ISI then, no one can help you, they tried to undermine and bring disrepute to the armed forces, if ISI wanted to eliminate Hamid Mir (and he deserves to be eliminated) they would not miss, he would be dead. GEO went on a campaign to disparage armed forces without any evidence. THIS ACT ITSELF of maligning armed forces is going against the constitution, which clearly states you cannot bring into disrepute the senior judiciary or armed forces. NS govt supported GEO, NS govt has installed Khawaja Asif as defense minister, the same guy who has abused armed forces in the past. NS govt's spokesmen, Pervaiz Rasheed's words "hum daleel walon kay saath hain, guleel walon kay saath nahee" he said this before any investigation regarding Hamid Mir, it goes to show the contempt they have and how they had planned to use GEO's baseless allegations to rail on the army and make it subjugated to the MONARCHY of the Sharif family just like the bastards of PUNJAB POLICE.

TO the surprise of GEO and NS govt and people like you (blind lovers of democrazy) the people of Pakistan rejected the propaganda machine of GEO and sided with the armed forces. SO if DEMOCRAZY is the right of a nation to choose its leadership, then IF Pakistani awam chooses ARMY to replace DEMOCRAZY in a fair and balanced referendum would you still shout about how awesome democrazy is ? WHAT if someday the TTP grows a brain and like HAMAS in Gaza, ends up becoming a political entity and end up winning elections, and impose hardcore shariah on Pakistan, where unveiled women are beaten and every muslim male is required by law to have a few inches of beard, would you still shout pro-DEMOCRAZY slogans ?.

ONLY BLIND LOVE should exist between a man and a woman, not man and ideology, horses for courses, panchoon unglieean barabar nahee hoteen, so just because DEMOCRAZY works in some places does not mean it can work in EVERY place.

ALSO you are correct, I have written off Pakistan, and hopefully I will never need to live there, ever again. BUT that does not mean I dont care for it, I am saddened that the situation is such that we simply cannot trust any democratic forces to bring the nation out of its quagmire and that we pray for a dictatorial regime to perhaps prolong its very existence before it eventual demise.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 15, 2014, 10:16:33 PM
Yaar space,
Why waste yours and mine precious time,
I havent got energy 2 tell u about Abc of D though u and jag think//believe both of u r PHD in politics esp Pak politics.
Shukar haay bullsbears is missing these days.
Space bro u r very good in kse,, kuch post kse related hoo jaayaee tu maza aa jaayaee ga.
same sentiments and request to jag.
I have decided to avoid posting oñ politcs for few days because high bp not good for me.
Kind regards
salam
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: phaze on September 16, 2014, 12:32:50 AM
Space bhai.

In Mushi time, police beat Imran sisters and brother in Law badly, many people were prisoners. Bhuto was prime minister who was arrested without court order, Nawaz shareef was arrested without court order. So if i blame ISI so what.

We don't know what ISI doing in Pakistan. All know GEO did correct but we scared to see result.

here are my comments and your comments about GEO is baseless.

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Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 16, 2014, 02:25:08 AM
Space bhai.

In Mushi time, police beat Imran sisters and brother in Law badly, many people were prisoners. Bhuto was prime minister who was arrested without court order, Nawaz shareef was arrested without court order. So if i blame ISI so what.

We don't know what ISI doing in Pakistan. All know GEO did correct but we scared to see result.

here are my comments and your comments about GEO is baseless.


GEO did correct ? So IF i owned a TV station, I can call your father a MURDERER/TERRORIST without any proof and you would say I DID CORRECT ?
JUST because you say that GEO did correct without a shred of evidence does not give any weight to your so called "comment"

The justice system of the world and the constitution of Pakistan, gives support to my assertion, that what GEO did was 100% wrong, they defamed the ISI without any proof at all what so ever, the constitution clearly states, army to not be brought into disrepute or maligned, so at the VERY LEAST I have the law and the constitution on my side, what have you got ? your "comment" ? quite worthless in my eyes and in the eyes of any jury in the world.

AS it is clear to me you are a supporter of GEO, so I will not reply to your insinuations anymore, a brainwashed person cannot be altered, esp one who does not have a shred of evidence of anything and supports a news channel which defames the only institution in the nation which is loved by a majority of its population i.e the armed forces of Pakistan, who die everyday fighting the terrorists, who support and rescue the people after floods or earthquakes, what did Bhutto do ? Nationalize industry to destroy his political/business rivals ? Destroy the education system to ensure the poor remain uneducated and unable to question him ? Divided Pakistan by not giving East Pakistans political forces their "democratically" earned mandate ? AND THAT IS YOUR LOVED "DEMOCRATIC LEADER ? I will take MUSHY any day.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on September 16, 2014, 02:41:48 AM
Geo had to be punished for defaming army. Geo was becoming too much of a threat to the very existence of Pakistan. Whenever we discuss army, our eyes are just blinded and see only negatives of its involvement in the politics but never ever we have once thought about that this very army is the reason why Pakistan has survived. if the army was not there, Pakistan would have long been divided into several smaller countries. they are true Pakistani and only think for motherland, not like corrupt politicians and media owners who will sell their soul to anyone who would give them higher bid.

Pakistan Army Zindabad!!
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 16, 2014, 02:56:33 AM
tabdeli aa nahi rahi tabdeli aa gai hay!!!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x260xj5_rehman-malik-thrown-off-flight-by-passengers-keeping-it-delayed_fun#from=embediframe
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: ValueInvestor on September 16, 2014, 03:51:44 AM
tabdeli aa nahi rahi tabdeli aa gai hay!!!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x260xj5_rehman-malik-thrown-off-flight-by-passengers-keeping-it-delayed_fun#from=embediframe

Ya Tabdeli hay!!!
[/color]

Thank you for posting this.
This is how you change the countries. My hat of to those people who stood up.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 16, 2014, 04:30:09 AM
Here is the full video, not only did the passengers throw out Rehman Malik, but they also off loaded some PMLN minority MNA Dr. Ramesh. Great job by the passengers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulWmyGlNlyE

tabdeli aa nahi rahi tabdeli aa gai hay!!!
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 16, 2014, 04:58:55 AM
Geo had to be punished for defaming army. Geo was becoming too much of a threat to the very existence of Pakistan. Whenever we discuss army, our eyes are just blinded and see only negatives of its involvement in the politics but never ever we have once thought about that this very army is the reason why Pakistan has survived. if the army was not there, Pakistan would have long been divided into several smaller countries. they are true Pakistani and only think for motherland, not like corrupt politicians and media owners who will sell their soul to anyone who would give them higher bid.

Pakistan Army Zindabad!!
 
yes u do use E language huhu huhu huhu jis tarah hameed gul becomes prosecutor, defence, jury and judge u too have have made accusations , passed judgement and reccomended punishment  :rtfm:now what ever i say or history


 suggest it doesnt matter :(  iss tarah u  can win your case only in kangroo courts :laugh:  someone like asma jahangir will always prevail over hameed gul in a neutral court but as far as u r concerned that doesnt matter because argument will b she is a RAW agent! Jaani 21st century maay iss tarah u break not save a country :skeptic: may Allah show all of us his patch and protect pakistan and its citizens
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on September 16, 2014, 05:32:19 AM
Geo had to be punished for defaming army. Geo was becoming too much of a threat to the very existence of Pakistan. Whenever we discuss army, our eyes are just blinded and see only negatives of its involvement in the politics but never ever we have once thought about that this very army is the reason why Pakistan has survived. if the army was not there, Pakistan would have long been divided into several smaller countries. they are true Pakistani and only think for motherland, not like corrupt politicians and media owners who will sell their soul to anyone who would give them higher bid.

Pakistan Army Zindabad!!
 
yes u do use E language huhu huhu huhu jis tarah hameed gul becomes prosecutor, defence, jury and judge u too have have made accusations , passed judgement and reccomended punishment  :rtfm:now what ever i say or history


 suggest it doesnt matter :(  iss tarah u  can win your case only in kangroo courts :laugh:  someone like asma jahangir will always prevail over hameed gul in a neutral court but as far as u r concerned that doesnt matter because argument will b she is a RAW agent! Jaani 21st century maay iss tarah u break not save a country :skeptic: may Allah show all of us his patch and protect pakistan and its citizens


yaar bhary bhai simple si baat hai. Pak army hai tu Pakistan hai. Total number of people serving in army is 1 million and if you would only use hamid gul as a person to justify a point, that would not do justice. I am proud of my army because people like Captain Muhammad Sarwar, Rashid Minhas, Lance Naik Muhammad Mahfuz, Captain Karnal Sher Khan, Havaldar Lalak Jan, Major Aziz Bhatti and current army chief brother Major Shabbir Sharif and thousands of fallen soldiers sacrificed their lives for this country, the country we all call home. People used to have a respect for army but channels like geo have numerous times attempted to defame the army so that people can become unpatriotic so for every reaction, there is opposite and equal reaction.   

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: sanwar on September 16, 2014, 09:01:29 AM
@Space bhai, the DEMOCRAZY lovers will keep defending their leaders without realizing the fact that it is not "DEMOCRACY"... When you will ask them simple question, they will write 2-pages of defense note, but will not bother to answer simple question in clear words... For them democracy is under threat when public will ask any question with respect to their rights mentioned in constitution... In one of my earlier posts, I mentioned that there were more rights for public under last dictatorship than what people have in current DEMOCRAZY...
Who has made these courts a KANGAROO COURT...? First step of democracy is free and fair election... when the opponents go to courts for justice and demand recount, the flag bearers of "democrazy" take stay orders... not once, not twice, but since past 14-months... People have gone to every forum and when they could not find justice, as the last option people went to streets... This govt. has never faced real opposition...  so as a result they used police power to silence public in which they miserably failed... My question to the Govt. supporters still remains unanswered "why stay orders against recounts"... In my opinion it is just fear of getting further exposed and the confirmation that the govt is not legitimate...
What kind of democracy is this, when a person with fake degree is made Education Minister... a person who openly criticize and undermine our armed forces is made Defense Minister... when the whole nation rose against the geo tv only then govt. thought about a minor punishment action against it... and till now the pm mentions this channel in assembly...
This govt. was biggest supporter of talks with armed terrorists who killed 50,000 people of this country but they want to "crush" the protesting people who are unarmed...
In blind love of these so called leaders, suporters will welcome and follow anyone who will try to protect this fake mandate... To me, it will remain fake as long as it is not proved otherwise... and the determination with which govt. is trying to stop/hinder the justice in this context, accept it or not, common people fully understand the integrity of this mandate...



 
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 17, 2014, 06:02:35 PM
Geo had to be punished for defaming army. Geo was becoming too much of a threat to the very existence of Pakistan. Whenever we discuss army, our eyes are just blinded and see only negatives of its involvement in the politics but never ever we have once thought about that this very army is the reason why Pakistan has survived. if the army was not there, Pakistan would have long been divided into several smaller countries. they are true Pakistani and only think for motherland, not like corrupt politicians and media owners who will sell their soul to anyone who would give them higher bid.

Pakistan Army Zindabad!!
 
yes u do use E language huhu huhu huhu jis tarah hameed gul becomes prosecutor, defence, jury and judge u too have have made accusations , passed judgement and reccomended punishment  :rtfm:now what ever i say or history


 suggest it doesnt matter :(  iss tarah u  can win your case only in kangroo courts :laugh:  someone like asma jahangir will always prevail over hameed gul in a neutral court but as far as u r concerned that doesnt matter because argument will b she is a RAW agent! Jaani 21st century maay iss tarah u break not save a country :skeptic: may Allah show all of us his patch and protect pakistan and its citizens

AND by that definition you also use the LANGUAGE OF THE LOOTERS/THIEVES/RIGGED/MURDERERS of the PARLIAMENT, so how about you change your tune to neutral ?

The simple fact remains, as has been pointed out by pro-DEMOCRAZY anchors on multiple channels, that after every coup, people distribute mithai to the extent that all sweet shops in every city sell out their products, no one comes out in support of the deposed govt, masjidoon mein ijtemai shukranay kay nafil hotay hain democrazy govt ki death pai. THIS is the tacit approval of the AWAM. Mein naa manoo, na manoo, next coup kay baad phr baat kar lain gay, and this time I will be here to remind you and question you.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 17, 2014, 10:24:08 PM
lagta haay Space is missing me :tongue:
will b back after 10th oct,
aab coup nahi hoo Ga :rtfm:
aab IK can never become our PM,
Mush still in difficulties- odds 50:50 haay for safe exit
NS will become pakland strongest PM if mush is convicted and Faujis due for
retirement next month do leave
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 18, 2014, 02:04:04 AM
Dhaikoo Dhaikoo,
space and co dhaikooo :rtfm:
Mulk toornaay wali party koo KAUN join kaar raha haay?

http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102429187&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140917

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 18, 2014, 02:07:32 AM
Give IK enough rope and he'll hang himselF :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:

http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102429177&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140917
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 18, 2014, 02:10:22 AM
for anti-nawaz/pti diehards :skeptic:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/763606/ecp-allows-pti-access-to-poll-records-of-na-speakers-constituency/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 18, 2014, 10:37:09 AM

Sanwar bro,
Kabhi kabhi raise these kind of questions on forum as well because possibilities r
openly discussed in any court of law, space bhai ghadari certificate itna easily distribute na
karaay warna pakland maay koi PATRIOT nahi bachaay ga :skeptic:
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/18-09-2014/col2.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 18, 2014, 11:13:54 AM

Sanwar bro,
Kabhi kabhi raise these kind of questions on forum as well because possibilities r
openly discussed in any court of law, space bhai ghadari certificate itna easily distribute na
karaay warna pakland maay koi PATRIOT nahi bachaay ga :skeptic:
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/18-09-2014/col2.htm
this is the moment to treat self inflicted wounds unless v want them to develop Gangrene
requiring amputation :rtfm:, definate yes to aik Qanoon for ALL but let things evolve naturally
agar FastForward ki khosish once again hoi tu iss baar nuksan boohat ziada lagta haay :console:
choice is indeed `hidden hand`
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: sheikhnazir11 on September 18, 2014, 07:54:03 PM
salammembers  sahib ,mubarak ho aap is forum pe chha gaye hen,shayad is liye stock and fun group pasand nahi aaraha.koi 4 saal pehle ek fakir ne ik k bare yehi kuchh kaha tha .lekin aap bhi to us waqat bare favoror the uske , including asif shafi sahib .aur ghuse me aakar aap ne us fakeer ko BLIND AND DUMB BOLA THA.us din se wo blind bhi raha , aur dumb bhi , phir doosre din goonga bhi ho gaya .ye post us ki aaj pehli post hai.thanks
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 18, 2014, 08:14:04 PM
salammembers  sahib ,mubarak ho aap is forum pe chha gaye hen,shayad is liye stock and fun group pasand nahi aaraha.koi 4 saal pehle ek fakir ne ik k bare yehi kuchh kaha tha .lekin aap bhi to us waqat bare favoror the uske , including asif shafi sahib .aur ghuse me aakar aap ne us fakeer ko BLIND AND DUMB BOLA THA.us din se wo blind bhi raha , aur dumb bhi , phir doosre din goonga bhi ho gaya .ye post us ki aaj pehli post hai.thanks
brother,
Really sorry if i hurt u by my words, 3 baar sorry karta hoo.
Millions have been fooled by ik tu hum kaha saay baachtaay.
as u got better vision and judgement, i will really appreciate if u can
give your views on current political situation and kse short term future and continue to guide
Me and others on this forum regularly :thanks:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on September 18, 2014, 08:46:04 PM
salammembers  sahib ,mubarak ho aap is forum pe chha gaye hen,shayad is liye stock and fun group pasand nahi aaraha.koi 4 saal pehle ek fakir ne ik k bare yehi kuchh kaha tha .lekin aap bhi to us waqat bare favoror the uske , including asif shafi sahib .aur ghuse me aakar aap ne us fakeer ko BLIND AND DUMB BOLA THA.us din se wo blind bhi raha , aur dumb bhi , phir doosre din goonga bhi ho gaya .ye post us ki aaj pehli post hai.thanks

pandora box? :skeptic:

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 18, 2014, 10:34:31 PM
Lion biggest test todate coming soon,
Lets hope Govt and E will work togather in country best interest and
no friction will b seen /displayed in coming days. NS can only benefit from lowered tempreture

http://m.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2014/09/140917_isi_new_chief_appointment_zz
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 19, 2014, 01:55:27 AM
Group management requested to delete Dehan bro most recent post containing link to facebook due to its highly
offensive nature.I agree, its not fit to be seen/heard by any muslim
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 19, 2014, 02:14:06 AM
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102430751&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20140918
yehi chiraag jalaay gaay tu Roshni hoo Gee  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 19, 2014, 02:34:25 AM
Group management requested to delete Dehan bro most recent post containing link to facebook due to its highly
offensive nature.I agree, its not fit to be seen/heard by any muslim

I agree, not only it is extremely offensive and blasphemous but also it has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with PTI, its one guy claiming to be Imam Mehdi, and using mother/sister galian, what kind of "imam" would he be ? THE VIDEO is edited by a PMLN lover, it shows the man sitting in his house giving a very poorly worded speech and every few moments the video cuts to PTI images and PTI songs, that I expect a PMLN paid activist to do this kind of propaganda, but what I did not expect is for our very respected Dehan bhai to promote it under the guise of something to do with "PTI"

I mean I can go online right now and find pro-talibaan anti-Pakistan supporters of PMLn and edit the video to make it look like the above and say, CHECK THIS OUT LOOK WHAT A PMLn SUPPORTER IS SAYING, but I won't, cos it makes 0 sense, and it will make me look like a PTI TOOL just like  this one makes @DEHAN with all due respect, look like a PMLn tool.

I will not remove the post or the link. IT IS HIGHLY OFFENSIVE and is blasphemous + heretic in nature BUT its not a personal attack on any forum member and is not pornographic as such I think I cannot remove it.

@salammembers you can try PMing M&M or Farzooq bhai, they can decide on what to do with it.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 19, 2014, 03:27:30 AM
In my view dehan bhai naay Gunah ka kaam kia haay and mangt is also commiting big mistake by not deleting it.
i understand maay maulvi nahi but i dont think any qualification other than belief in Islam and Respect for its pillars r needed to decide what action needs 2 b taken in this matter.
I have done my duty, baqi kaam mngt ka haay
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on September 19, 2014, 04:35:35 AM
Bro we humans make mistakes and i am sure dehan bhai didn't do it on purpose.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: ValueInvestor on September 19, 2014, 05:32:04 AM
Group management requested to delete Dehan bro most recent post containing link to facebook due to its highly
offensive nature.I agree, its not fit to be seen/heard by any muslim

I agree, not only it is extremely offensive and blasphemous but also it has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with PTI, its one guy claiming to be Imam Mehdi, and using mother/sister galian, what kind of "imam" would he be ? THE VIDEO is edited by a PMLN lover, it shows the man sitting in his house giving a very poorly worded speech and every few moments the video cuts to PTI images and PTI songs, that I expect a PMLN paid activist to do this kind of propaganda, but what I did not expect is for our very respected Dehan bhai to promote it under the guise of something to do with "PTI"

I mean I can go online right now and find pro-talibaan anti-Pakistan supporters of PMLn and edit the video to make it look like the above and say, CHECK THIS OUT LOOK WHAT A PMLn SUPPORTER IS SAYING, but I won't, cos it makes 0 sense, and it will make me look like a PTI TOOL just like  this one makes @DEHAN with all due respect, look like a PMLn tool.

I will not remove the post or the link. IT IS HIGHLY OFFENSIVE and is blasphemous + heretic in nature BUT its not a personal attack on any forum member and is not pornographic as such I think I cannot remove it.

@salammembers you can try PMing M&M or Farzooq bhai, they can decide on what to do with it.

Gentlemen,

This forum is about making money and helping others to make money.

It will be great help, If we keep our religious views (whatever views we may have) to ourselves.
Religion is a matter between the Creator and his Creation (Man/Woman and his or her God). 

May we all be granted from the blessings of Allah. Ameen . 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: sanwar on September 19, 2014, 10:07:15 AM

Sanwar bro,
Kabhi kabhi raise these kind of questions on forum as well because possibilities r
openly discussed in any court of law, space bhai ghadari certificate itna easily distribute na
karaay warna pakland maay koi PATRIOT nahi bachaay ga :skeptic:
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/18-09-2014/col2.htm

@Salammember bro, sorry for not looking at this post earlier...
If I can not get response to a simple question then what is the use of raising more questions... I can not wait for few decades wishing that I will get my answer when the system will heal itself... believe me, closing our eyes will only hide the problem temporarily... but it will not go away... when we see a problem, we need to do something about it...
all the parties are saying that there was massive rigging; whatever the "dharna" people are asking is correct but the method is incorrect... what method?? one can not get a FIR registered for people killed in broad daylight and recorded by dozen of TV channels... there are clear evidences of rigging but a political party that got millions of votes is running from pillar to post to get justice without any success for over a year... what else do we expect from them if they don't go out on street... luckily, they have not shut their eyes like many of us for "system to heal"... they are making noise and waking people around... I will re-iterate that it is not bad to like one party or the other or have difference of opinion... but at the same time we need to develop a sense of responsibility and tolerance to not only see reality and but acknowledge mistakes of our "leaders"... because deep down inside our hearts we know what is correct...

Unfortunately, I have never been fan of HM or Geo group... The nation has shown its distrust on these traitors and understand that these people are working on someone else's agenda, which is definitely not for our welfare...
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 19, 2014, 12:26:27 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11108046/The-English-question-answered-Scottish-MPs-to-be-barred-from-voting-on-English-laws.html

parliment maay anger/resentment usually do no harm to country ,
IK and his team need to attend parliment regularly and try 2 give tough
time to both Govt and PPP on policy matters
junta may still vote for him if his constructive politics
appear persuasive
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 19, 2014, 12:28:29 PM
Bro we humans make mistakes and i am sure dehan bhai didn't do it on purpose.
true,
all of us r Vulnerable
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 19, 2014, 12:48:39 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11108046/The-English-question-answered-Scottish-MPs-to-be-barred-from-voting-on-English-laws.html

parliment maay anger/resentment usually do no harm to country ,
IK and his team need to attend parliment regularly and try 2 give tough
time to both Govt and PPP on policy matters
junta may still vote for him if his constructive politics
appear persuasive

THE same PARLIAMENT where your dishonorable PM never used to go before the dharna ? AS far as I can remember, in the last 15 months of govt PMLn has not yet passed any new legislation via parliament, am I correct ?
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 19, 2014, 02:05:49 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11108046/The-English-question-answered-Scottish-MPs-to-be-barred-from-voting-on-English-laws.html

parliment maay anger/resentment usually do no harm to country ,
IK and his team need to attend parliment regularly and try 2 give tough
time to both Govt and PPP on policy matters
junta may still vote for him if his constructive politics
appear persuasive
[/quote


....
THE same PARLIAMENT where your dishonorable PM never used to go before the dharna ? AS far as I can remember, in the last 15 months of govt PMLn has not yet passed any new legislation via parliament, am I correct ?



if govt is baysharam tu this also reflect opposition is ineffective and incompetent, pti need to show its readiness to govern pakistan in parliment through impressive policy statements and constructive criticism that mean REAL HARDWORK not just slogans
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: sanwar on September 19, 2014, 06:40:18 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11108046/The-English-question-answered-Scottish-MPs-to-be-barred-from-voting-on-English-laws.html

parliment maay anger/resentment usually do no harm to country ,
IK and his team need to attend parliment regularly and try 2 give tough
time to both Govt and PPP on policy matters
junta may still vote for him if his constructive politics
appear persuasive
[/quote


....
THE same PARLIAMENT where your dishonorable PM never used to go before the dharna ? AS far as I can remember, in the last 15 months of govt PMLn has not yet passed any new legislation via parliament, am I correct ?



if govt is baysharam tu this also reflect opposition is ineffective and incompetent, pti need to show its readiness to govern pakistan in parliment through impressive policy statements and constructive criticism that mean REAL HARDWORK not just slogans
@Space bahi, the "actual" problem is that govt. can never do anything wrong... if you dare to find any mistake, it will actually be someone else mistake...
i fail to understand, if mandate was questionable since the very beginning, why did govt not bother to get this clarified at the earliest to kill any doubts on mandate and the systems in place...
People forgot that after joining assembly IK said that he will seek justice and upon failure will go to streets (this was 14-months ago)... at that time he believed that he can get justice through current systems...
After a year long struggle and the attitude of govt. (with repeated stay orders against re-counting and rigging cases) people realized that it is a govt. with fake mandate...

We should absolutely agree that everybody should WORK HARD and no empty slogans please...
but wait... can anybody recall the slogans we heard at the time of last elections... breaking the begging bowl, bringing back stolen wealth of nation, finishing load-shedding in 6-months, dragging AZ on street, changing the fate of the nation, making life of common man easy... probably, it is okay for govt. to raise false slogans any time, but others should respect democracy (even if they know that the mandate if questionable)...

May Allah give us courage and wisdom to see and say what is wrong and what is right...!
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 19, 2014, 07:51:01 PM
Sanwar bro,
Aap konsaay mulk ki baat kaar rahaay haay?
If it was eu or usa ns wouldnt dare 2 ignore parliment because opposition and system keeps u on your toes. Faujis first disrupt system and then jaab system chalna shroo hota haay tu demand 'best of best' ki batain kaar k junta koo misguide kartaay haay. Let the child crawl before it can walk and that applies to both govt and opposition . Inshallah sabar ka fruit meetha hoo ga but D takes time 2 deliver and criticism is healthy and must for strong D, so pl keep it up
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Small Investor on September 20, 2014, 06:50:45 AM
Sanwar bro,
Aap konsaay mulk ki baat kaar rahaay haay?
If it was eu or usa ns wouldnt dare 2 ignore parliment because opposition and system keeps u on your toes. Faujis first disrupt system and then jaab system chalna shroo hota haay tu demand 'best of best' ki batain kaar k junta koo misguide kartaay haay. Let the child crawl before it can walk and that applies to both govt and opposition . Inshallah sabar ka fruit meetha hoo ga but D takes time 2 deliver and criticism is healthy and must for strong D, so pl keep it up

Dear Salammembers,

Politicians themselves are responsible to disrupt system and giving chance to others.
Also if we talk about D then can these so called D champions in parlimant tell why they have failed so far to conduct LB elections. Was Musharaf Nazim system not good. Police and DMG were accountable to people. Now you can see yourself what's happening.
Another question from these so called D champions and parlimintarians. Can they tell me why the hell they want to spent their millions of rupees to get in parlimant, to serve people or democracy. I don't think so. If yes they should have changed system long time ago.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 20, 2014, 11:10:43 AM
Dharna Gains :good


http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2014-daily/20-09-2014/col1.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 20, 2014, 11:13:16 AM
Kahee paay nigah -kahee paay nishana :tongue:
united Britian good but main opposition party (labour) k leader koo Down karooo :skeptic:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11109707/Beautiful-bouncing-Britain-reborn-Boris-Johnsons-verdict-on-the-Scottish-referendum.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 20, 2014, 11:28:55 AM
http://www.dawn.com/news/1133158/new-isi-chief-time-for-the-pm-to-pick-and-choose
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 20, 2014, 11:30:37 AM
For IK attention


http://m.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2014/09/140919_balochistan_assembly_seat_disqualified_magsi_rh
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: sanwar on September 20, 2014, 12:44:58 PM
If there were no stay orders against re-counting/rigging we would have seen many similar news...

 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 20, 2014, 02:56:16 PM
If there were no stay orders against re-counting/rigging we would have seen many similar news...
 
true and yeh kaam haay opposition ka , govt maay koi torture aur humiliate hoonaay k liay nahi aata, issi liay once in power , u want to remain in power FOREVER :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on September 20, 2014, 09:26:34 PM
If there were no stay orders against re-counting/rigging we would have seen many similar news...
 
true and yeh kaam haay opposition ka , govt maay koi torture aur humiliate hoonaay k liay nahi aata, issi liay once in power , u want to remain in power FOREVER :dance :dance :dance

No bro this has to change, leaders have to realize that and us pakistani have to change this thought as well. Govt is in power to help people, not to stay in power forever like for the last 60 years, one party plays death politics of bhutto while other party wants to expand their business. Inshallah we have to be hopeful that the change will come.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: space on September 21, 2014, 11:03:59 PM
Love live democrazy and salammembers beloved leader  http://www.dawn.com/news/584700/why-rs300-million-for-raiwind-estate
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on September 30, 2014, 09:02:02 PM
Go Nawaz Go  :D
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Dehan on September 30, 2014, 11:01:55 PM
Go Nawaz Go  :D
:clap1: :dance :shoaby: As per IK 1.1M attended the Lahore Jalsa :D :laugh: :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on September 30, 2014, 11:44:03 PM
Go Nawaz Go  :D
:clap1: :dance :shoaby: As per IK 1.1M attended the Lahore Jalsa :D :laugh: :biggthumpup:

Kitney Aadmi Thay ??  :D

http://www.livectv.com/kitney-aadmi-thay-many-people-lahore-jalsa/   :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on September 30, 2014, 11:55:07 PM
LAHORIS CHANTS “GO NAWAZ GO” DURING PERVAIZ RASHEED MEDIA TALK  :clap1:

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/09/28/lahoris-chants-go-nawaz-go-during-pervaiz-rasheed-media-talk-exclusive-video/

Go Ganjay Go  :thumbsup_anim: :dance :D
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jamalakhter on October 01, 2014, 11:00:44 PM
Go Nawaz Go  :D
                     
               it means go democracy go by blocking investment of china ,stopping 2 participate in reconstruction of SIRI LUNKA and now cancilling QATAR Shakh visit ,why they r increasing miseries of poor PAKISTANEES .
From 2 months they r trying 2 paralyze economy of PAKLAND . 2 GUNDA ,BUDMASH  of E and agencies ie  TUQ, I K  applying the agenda  of ISRAEL and INDIA 2 destroy the only ISLAMIC ATOMIC POWER.
 I K is in a big hurry 2 become PM chaha pak aor awam bhar meen jaa
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on October 03, 2014, 12:06:42 AM
Go Nawaz Go  :D
                     
               it means go democracy go by blocking investment of china ,stopping 2 participate in reconstruction of SIRI LUNKA and now cancilling QATAR Shakh visit ,why they r increasing miseries of poor PAKISTANEES .
From 2 months they r trying 2 paralyze economy of PAKLAND . 2 GUNDA ,BUDMASH  of E and agencies ie  TUQ, I K  applying the agenda  of ISRAEL and INDIA 2 destroy the only ISLAMIC ATOMIC POWER.
 I K is in a big hurry 2 become PM chaha pak aor awam bhar meen jaa

You meant to say that Shaykh ul islam tahir ul qadri is a gunda and badmash applying agenda of israel and india. you need to read the biography of the guy cuz you are are just been ignorant now.

http://www.minhaj.org/english/tid/8718/A-Profile-of-Shaykh-ul-Islam-Dr-Muhammad-Tahir-ul-Qadri.html

And do need to see his work on the following topics too.

Works on Qur’anic Tafsir
Works on Hadith compilation and the science of Hadith
Works on Islamic ‘Aqida
Works on the Biography (Sira) of the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) and his virtuous characteristics
Works on Islamic Law and Jurisprudence (Fiqh and Usul al-Fiqh)
Works on Islamic Political and Economic Systems
Works on Tasawwuf and Spirituality
Works on Human Rights and Modern Sciences

And Please do give a thought to the following quote on Democracy as well

Let us never forget that government is ourselves and not an alien power over us. The ultimate rulers of our democracy are not a President and senators and congressmen and government officials, but the voters of this country.
Franklin D. Roosevelt

If this 'Islamic Atomic Power' was left in the hands of politicians, they would have sold this whole country in an auction. Trust your army, they are here for good. 
   
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: 007 on October 08, 2014, 02:20:20 PM
criticizing is the most easiest thing to do

IK wont last 6 months in power and Pakistan will be f**ked

he wont win any elections either

laoo Na PAK Army aik bar phir apna mulk fatah karnay ga rahhee hai

indias ramming their ass in Sialkot is not even an issue sad
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Knife on October 09, 2014, 12:23:35 PM
These colprits are the enemy of country foreign agents for pti dharna Pakistan economy face more then 70 billion rupees loss
           
                                   TUQ and IK r damaging 2 PAKISTAN and PKISTANIES  not 2 NS


So anyone who is in opposition to the Govt. policies is damaging Pakistan? ?
REALLY!!
  By blocking investment in PAKISTAN and creating hurdles in completion of power projects delaying
2 create job oppertunities  is it politics r agenda of ISREEAL and INDIA 2 destroy this ATOMIC POWER---?


These colprits are the enemy of country foreign agents for pti dharna Pakistan economy face more then 70 billion rupees loss
           
                                   TUQ and IK r damaging 2 PAKISTAN and PKISTANIES  not 2 NS


So anyone who is in opposition to the Govt. policies is damaging Pakistan? ?
REALLY!!
  By blocking investment in PAKISTAN and creating hurdles in completion of power projects delaying
2 create job oppertunities  is it politics r agenda of ISREEAL and INDIA 2 destroy this ATOMIC POWER---?
What investments are you talking about. Investments like nandipur. The same thing was done by PML-N when PPP was bringing in IPPs and RPPs. PPP was selling the interest of Pakistan by bringing these costly power projects. Now Pakistan is facing the brunt of those decision. PML-N is moving on the same path. The problem with our power projects is the cost at which they are going to provide electricity. Right now Pakistan has around 20000 MW capacity but the transmission and distribution system cannot sustain more than 15,000 MW and also the cost is too high. Nandipur is a big example. It was a dead investment. Now the people of Pakistan are paying the price of it through high electricity bills. (Cost escalation of nandipur Rs. 70 Billion = Over billing of rs. 70 Billion in electricity bills).
Also if you are correct and this is the agenda of India and Israel then Allah help us because our army is also supporting them against Zardari and Nawaz Sharif because of their support to GEO (which according to your theory are doing Jihad) to destroy the ISI and pakistan Army's image and that is why it is supporting the Aman ki Asha. And that is why our government is silent over the killing of Pakistanis by Indian army as it will go against the army. Quite a bullshit theory by you all.
If this is the kind of intellect you people have Pakistan is a doomed cause no matter what. 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Knife on October 09, 2014, 01:35:22 PM
criticizing is the most easiest thing to do

IK wont last 6 months in power and Pakistan will be f**ked

he wont win any elections either

laoo Na PAK Army aik bar phir apna mulk fatah karnay ga rahhee hai

indias ramming their ass in Sialkot is not even an issue sad
Yes no issue for sugar selling Baron who is the PM of Pakistan. It is his government not of IK's who should take a tough stance against India.
The destruction of the country started when we allowed traders to become our leaders. We will see the consequences of this decision. We have learned nothing neither from our history nor from the rest of the World.
You have given your country to a trader and know this if a trader does not have morals (like our PM) then he is no better then  a DALAL (A trader of women flesh). Keep this in mind and you will see the future of your country.   
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Alpha on October 09, 2014, 07:07:30 PM
criticizing is the most easiest thing to do

IK wont last 6 months in power and Pakistan will be f**ked

he wont win any elections either

laoo Na PAK Army aik bar phir apna mulk fatah karnay ga rahhee hai

indias ramming their ass in Sialkot is not even an issue sad
Yes no issue for sugar selling Baron who is the PM of Pakistan. It is his government not of IK's who should take a tough stance against India.
The destruction of the country started when we allowed traders to become our leaders. We will see the consequences of this decision. We have learned nothing neither from our history nor from the rest of the World.
You have given your country to a trader and know this if a trader does not have morals (like our PM) then he is no better then  a DALAL (A trader of women flesh). Keep this in mind and you will see the future of your country.   

He is a manufacturere not trader

What about the destruction of the country started when watchmen took charge of the country

What about giving the reins of the country to a sportsman who only believes in win or loss n nothing in between so u can imagine

What about giving the country to mr percentage

To me every segment of the society has equal right to govern as long as they come from people's will

Dont stamp anyone every trade has its own merits n demerits
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jamalakhter on October 09, 2014, 11:21:56 PM
These colprits are the enemy of country foreign agents for pti dharna Pakistan economy face more then 70 billion rupees loss
           
                                   TUQ and IK r damaging 2 PAKISTAN and PKISTANIES  not 2 NS


So anyone who is in opposition to the Govt. policies is damaging Pakistan? ?
REALLY!!
  By blocking investment in PAKISTAN and creating hurdles in completion of power projects delaying
2 create job oppertunities  is it politics r agenda of ISREEAL and INDIA 2 destroy this ATOMIC POWER---?


These colprits are the enemy of country foreign agents for pti dharna Pakistan economy face more then 70 billion rupees loss
           
                                   TUQ and IK r damaging 2 PAKISTAN and PKISTANIES  not 2 NS


So anyone who is in opposition to the Govt. policies is damaging Pakistan? ?
REALLY!!
  By blocking investment in PAKISTAN and creating hurdles in completion of power projects delaying
2 create job oppertunities  is it politics r agenda of ISREEAL and INDIA 2 destroy this ATOMIC POWER---?
What investments are you talking about. Investments like nandipur. The same thing was done by PML-N when PPP was bringing in IPPs and RPPs. PPP was selling the interest of Pakistan by bringing these costly power projects. Now Pakistan is facing the brunt of those decision. PML-N is moving on the same path. The problem with our power projects is the cost at which they are going to provide electricity. Right now Pakistan has around 20000 MW capacity but the transmission and distribution system cannot sustain more than 15,000 MW and also the cost is too high. Nandipur is a big example. It was a dead investment. Now the people of Pakistan are paying the price of it through high electricity bills. (Cost escalation of nandipur Rs. 70 Billion = Over billing of rs. 70 Billion in electricity bills).
Also if you are correct and this is the agenda of India and Israel then Allah help us because our army is also supporting them against Zardari and Nawaz Sharif because of their support to GEO (which according to your theory are doing Jihad) to destroy the ISI and pakistan Army's image and that is why it is supporting the Aman ki Asha. And that is why our government is silent over the killing of Pakistanis by Indian army as it will go against the army. Quite a bullshit theory by you all.
If this is the kind of intellect you people have Pakistan is a doomed cause no matter what.

    Army  is just 2 defend ,ISI job is 2 bring information from across the border ,2 devide and rule was the policy of BRITISHERS ,they have not conquered this land ,it was made by politicians let the democratic
nroms 2 establish ,this poor country cant afford the adventure of Gargil,insurgency in baluchistan .please
for GOD sake dont involve army in such pity matters if there will b lust of power,  debacle of 71 will b
repeated , in map 2015 of state dept PAKLANND is devided  into 4 states  Who is becoming part of that
Agenda
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jamalakhter on October 09, 2014, 11:34:20 PM
criticizing is the most easiest thing to do

IK wont last 6 months in power and Pakistan will be f**ked

he wont win any elections either

laoo Na PAK Army aik bar phir apna mulk fatah karnay ga rahhee hai

indias ramming their ass in Sialkot is not even an issue sad
Yes no issue for sugar selling Baron who is the PM of Pakistan. It is his government not of IK's who should take a tough stance against India.
The destruction of the country started when we allowed traders to become our leaders. We will see the consequences of this decision. We have learned nothing neither from our history nor from the rest of the World.
You have given your country to a trader and know this if a trader does not have morals (like our PM) then he is no better then  a DALAL (A trader of women flesh). Keep this in mind and you will see the future of your country.   

He is a manufacturere not trader

What about the destruction of the country started when watchmen took charge of the country

What about giving the reins of the country to a sportsman who only believes in win or loss n nothing in between so u can imagine

What about giving the country to mr percentage

To me every segment of the society has equal right to govern as long as they come from people's will

Dont stamp anyone every trade has its own merits n demerits
 
     sitting in D Chowk us embassy is very close I K say some thing against drone attacks ;
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Knife on October 10, 2014, 10:01:25 AM
criticizing is the most easiest thing to do

IK wont last 6 months in power and Pakistan will be f**ked

he wont win any elections either

laoo Na PAK Army aik bar phir apna mulk fatah karnay ga rahhee hai

indias ramming their ass in Sialkot is not even an issue sad
Yes no issue for sugar selling Baron who is the PM of Pakistan. It is his government not of IK's who should take a tough stance against India.
The destruction of the country started when we allowed traders to become our leaders. We will see the consequences of this decision. We have learned nothing neither from our history nor from the rest of the World.
You have given your country to a trader and know this if a trader does not have morals (like our PM) then he is no better then  a DALAL (A trader of women flesh). Keep this in mind and you will see the future of your country.   

He is a manufacturere not trader

What about the destruction of the country started when watchmen took charge of the country

What about giving the reins of the country to a sportsman who only believes in win or loss n nothing in between so u can imagine

What about giving the country to mr percentage

To me every segment of the society has equal right to govern as long as they come from people's will

Dont stamp anyone every trade has its own merits n demerits
 
     sitting in D Chowk us embassy is very close I K say some thing against drone attacks ;
I cannot do anything about people who have their minds and well as their hearts sealed. I do not think you read news otherwise you would not have said this.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Knife on October 10, 2014, 10:17:40 AM
criticizing is the most easiest thing to do

IK wont last 6 months in power and Pakistan will be f**ked

he wont win any elections either

laoo Na PAK Army aik bar phir apna mulk fatah karnay ga rahhee hai

indias ramming their ass in Sialkot is not even an issue sad
Yes no issue for sugar selling Baron who is the PM of Pakistan. It is his government not of IK's who should take a tough stance against India.
The destruction of the country started when we allowed traders to become our leaders. We will see the consequences of this decision. We have learned nothing neither from our history nor from the rest of the World.
You have given your country to a trader and know this if a trader does not have morals (like our PM) then he is no better then  a DALAL (A trader of women flesh). Keep this in mind and you will see the future of your country.   

He is a manufacturere not trader

What about the destruction of the country started when watchmen took charge of the country

What about giving the reins of the country to a sportsman who only believes in win or loss n nothing in between so u can imagine

What about giving the country to mr percentage

To me every segment of the society has equal right to govern as long as they come from people's will

Dont stamp anyone every trade has its own merits n demerits
Who is supporting whom right now can be seen from the news. Nawaz Zardari bhai bhai is the theme of our democracy now a days. the person from whom they were going to bring out the ill gotten money is now helping and advising them.
You talk about democracy. What has the democracy achieved in India. They have democrazy since independence and look where they are now. Democracy comes with some pre-conditions. We are trying to implement a system for which we do not have any base and neither we are trying to build that base because that will be detrimental for the existing power hungry families whose business is only to make money through un fair means.
Every segment has an equal right but here this right is only for the rich and powerful. The middle class has been shown the door.
I am not in favour of the army but compare the 8 years of Musharaf and around 7 years of these democratically elected leaders. they should have performed better if democracy is so good but where do we stand right now. Only by saying Democracy is good and dictatorship is bad will not fill the bellys of the poor people which are increasing with every passing day. Middle class is feeling the heat and the rebillion will only grow from here. this is what a democratically elected government would have understood but when you come through rigging these notions becomes alien.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: 007 on October 10, 2014, 10:22:55 AM
stop posting political propaganda in ogdc
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jamalakhter on October 10, 2014, 12:33:12 PM
criticizing is the most easiest thing to do

IK wont last 6 months in power and Pakistan will be f**ked

he wont win any elections either

laoo Na PAK Army aik bar phir apna mulk fatah karnay ga rahhee hai

indias ramming their ass in Sialkot is not even an issue sad
Yes no issue for sugar selling Baron who is the PM of Pakistan. It is his government not of IK's who should take a tough stance against India.
The destruction of the country started when we allowed traders to become our leaders. We will see the consequences of this decision. We have learned nothing neither from our history nor from the rest of the World.
You have given your country to a trader and know this if a trader does not have morals (like our PM) then he is no better then  a DALAL (A trader of women flesh). Keep this in mind and you will see the future of your country.   

He is a manufacturere not trader

What about the destruction of the country started when watchmen took charge of the country

What about giving the reins of the country to a sportsman who only believes in win or loss n nothing in between so u can imagine

What about giving the country to mr percentage

To me every segment of the society has equal right to govern as long as they come from people's will

Dont stamp anyone every trade has its own merits n demerits
 
     sitting in D Chowk us embassy is very close I K say some thing against drone attacks ;
I cannot do anything about people who have their minds and well as their hearts sealed. I do not think you read news otherwise you would not have said this.
I K also told nothing 2 reconstruct Wazistan ,he is trying 2 demolish Atomic Pawer 2 make NIA PAKISTAN a
dream of JEWS and HUNOOD
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 10, 2014, 03:08:10 PM
accurately reflect current state of play-
http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/18423/Syed-Talat-Hussain/Nawaz-Sharif-Ki-Chok-Chok-Gari.aspx
matbal pakland can only improve NOW and extensive Gora interest in kse can only increase further,
all quality maal remain strong HOLD, in my view v will c new highs in next 12 months
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: newsrecorder on October 10, 2014, 05:31:49 PM
http://www.newsrecorder.net/2014/10/federal-board-of-revenue-accused-of.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 11, 2014, 09:49:34 AM

D khappay, khappay and more D khappay,
Rasta yehi haay , D ultimately  leads to better Governance

http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2014-daily/11-10-2014/col1.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 11, 2014, 05:57:41 PM
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-33397-Ex-PM-Gilanis-son-booked-for-murder-guard-arrested
now punjab  focused on `Rule of law and Justice for all`
,lets hope virus will spread to smaller provinces in the coming months.
probably less difficult to filter and discipline police but more difficult
to achieve same in judiciary at lower level .
only problem-no credible force with ability to bring such change visible
at present :confused1:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 12, 2014, 12:41:04 PM
yasir pirzada appear demoralised pml N supporter in his latest column,
unless babu start delivering at faster pace he will continue 2 struggle,
its no longer possible 2 survive merely on attractive slogans/promises in pak politics 

http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2014-daily/12-10-2014/col5.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 12, 2014, 07:02:51 PM
smaller provinces still fighting D case more effectively then Pml N otherwise
aab taak NS ja chuka hoota :skeptic:


http://www.zemtv.com/2014/10/01/capital-talk-pervez-musharraf-ko-tabdeeli-ka-yakeen-hai-akhir-kyun-1st-october-2014/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 13, 2014, 09:33:44 PM
khouda mountain-nikla mouse :rtfm:

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/10/13/gen-r-hamid-gul-blasts-geo-geos-love-affair-with-india-while-sitting-on-geo/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 14, 2014, 12:10:01 AM
heading towards slow and painful death? :skeptic:

http://www.dawn.com/news/1137573/need-for-new-survival-kit
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 14, 2014, 11:15:19 AM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2014-daily/14-10-2014/col3.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: MZ on October 15, 2014, 07:18:03 PM
http://www.brecorder.com/articles-a-letters/187:articles/1232736:partly-facetious:-go-nawaz-go-has-become-youths-mantra/?date=2014-10-15
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 15, 2014, 09:34:39 PM
worth watching for kse lovers

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/10/14/kal-tak-exclusive-interview-with-governer-punjab-chaudhary-muhammad-sarwar-14th-october-2014/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 16, 2014, 01:36:15 AM
http://tribune.com.pk/story/776017/remittances-grow-19-5-hit-4-69b/
worth watching for kse lovers

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/10/14/kal-tak-exclusive-interview-with-governer-punjab-chaudhary-muhammad-sarwar-14th-october-2014/










Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 17, 2014, 09:44:19 PM
Good and sustained pressure,
both babu and AZ struggling to counter these attacks
http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2014-daily/17-10-2014/u31040.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 18, 2014, 01:32:24 PM
Worth watching
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/10/17/naeem-bokhari-ke-saath-qamar-zaman-kaira-say-gupshup-17th-october-2014/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 18, 2014, 01:45:07 PM
Such or jhoot?u decide :rtfm:


http://www.zemtv.com/2014/10/17/nawaz-sharif-was-full-confident-when-we-formed-iji-gen-hamid-gul/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 18, 2014, 08:02:43 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2014/10/141017_pti_hrcp_foreign_agents_rk
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: sanwar on October 19, 2014, 12:37:20 PM
Worth watching
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/10/17/naeem-bokhari-ke-saath-qamar-zaman-kaira-say-gupshup-17th-october-2014/

Nice share Salammembers sb...
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 20, 2014, 12:24:31 AM
thanks Sanwar bro,
i recently had chance to meet many people from punjab and was
surprised to see very little support for Sharif brothers. infact majority was
pro-E and angry with smaller provinces for opposing army rule, one wanted punjab to divorce
sindh and baluchistan and even kp for slowing punjab progress and claimed all 3 will
struggle to survive without punjab and will beg to re-join punjab within 1-2 yrs.
so i reminded him about same claims being made about bengalis and asked him to reconsider Allama iqbal status in history because there was heavy bloodshed in both east and west punjab in 1947 , he appeared bit puzzled but didnt open his mouth :skeptic:
todays aapis ki baat  probably must watch for zab/ppp haters :rtfm:

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/10/19/aapas-ki-baat-tahir-ul-qadri-ka-inqalabi-show-lahore-mein-nayi-bat-kia-hogi-19th-october-2014/


Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: 007 on October 20, 2014, 12:59:47 AM
Salman take you venomous propaganda and shove it up u r ass

Have a goud f**king day  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 20, 2014, 01:21:37 AM
if abusive language and physical aggression can solve even day 2 day problems
tu aaj human race jungle maay rehna prefer kartee, 007 this tendency appear habitual in your case and habits r usually formed in childhood or teenage years.
may ALLAH give u the vision to reflect on your habitual behaviour
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 20, 2014, 11:20:24 AM
published in todays jang :confused1:
laoo maal khakis

http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2014-daily/20-10-2014/col6.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 20, 2014, 04:15:32 PM
published in todays jang :confused1:
laoo maal khakis

http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2014-daily/20-10-2014/col6.htm

this is exactly what i shared last night about Sharifs unpopularity in punjab and some (how many -dont know but credible survey will help) in punjab missing martial law
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 23, 2014, 08:41:45 AM
http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-163322-Formation-of-3-provinces-inevitable:-Babar-Ghauri
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 23, 2014, 11:04:40 PM
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/10/23/arshad-sharif-bashed-tahir-ul-qadri-for-fake-promises/

ik will b in same situation when his dharna comes 2 end
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 24, 2014, 10:40:42 PM
http://www.dawn.com/news/1140094/imran-announces-decisive-war-on-november-30

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 24, 2014, 11:02:50 PM
Geo back on front foot :rtfm:
not Good news for D

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/10/24/aapas-ki-baat-imran-khan-dharna-jaari-rakhne-per-baa-zid-24th-october-2014/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 25, 2014, 05:20:55 PM
obama/kerry revenge :tongue:
U.S. publicly humiliates Israeli defense minister as visit ends
Ya'alon declares crisis between him and Obama administration over, only to find out that it revealed he was denied audience with top officials.
-israel newspaper frontpage
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 25, 2014, 07:02:27 PM
Lagta haay someone decided ' geo nahi tu koi aur b nahi' :tongue:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 25, 2014, 07:03:54 PM
http://www.dawn.com/news/1140313/cable-tv-subscribers-unable-to-view-news-channels-in-karachi
Lagta haay someone decided ' geo nahi tu koi aur b nahi' :tongue:

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 26, 2014, 12:27:23 PM
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/sport/26-Oct-2014/najam-sethi-is-best-choice-for-icc-presidency-2015
real agenda shayid yehi tha?


Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 27, 2014, 01:20:01 AM
relatively better programme on karachi/sindh (ppp/mqm) problem
while najam sethi todays aapis ki baat was totally one sided discussion
on same issue
 

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/10/26/siasat-aur-saazish-mqm-ki-khursheed-shah-se-narazgi-barqarar-26th-october-2014/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 29, 2014, 01:02:57 AM
kaira playing like Gavaskar for PPP against MQM,
punjab and media so far relatively neutral in current debate.
lagta haay MQM will b forced to dilute its demand
to LB polls which will get more sympathetic hearing all over Pakistan
and can force KAIRA/PPP on backfoot
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 29, 2014, 01:34:02 AM
khoon dikhta haay,
ALLAH reham karaay
http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2014-daily/28-10-2014/u32010.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 29, 2014, 03:26:06 AM
http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/18917/Rauf-Klasra/Pashtun-Bachon-Ko-Hi-Barbaad-Karo.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 29, 2014, 04:22:53 PM
Amir liaqat hussain rejoining geo,
Lagta haay issue with invisible hand settled
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 30, 2014, 09:21:20 PM
kaira playing like Gavaskar for PPP against MQM,
punjab and media so far relatively neutral in current debate.
lagta haay MQM will b forced to dilute its demand
to LB polls which will get more sympathetic hearing all over Pakistan
and can force KAIRA/PPP on backfoot


MQM forced on backfoot,
Good for country


http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2014-daily/30-10-2014/u32125.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 31, 2014, 01:01:42 PM
karwa such huhu huhu huhu
neither NS itna strong nor he is considered visionary

http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2014/10/141030_pm_order_syllabus_amend_hec
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 01, 2014, 08:46:19 AM
http://tribune.com.pk/story/784418/independent-group-wins-scba-election/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 01, 2014, 11:34:44 PM
laoo maal usa/Reema ka America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOOzpoTiVLw
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 02, 2014, 03:00:48 PM


http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/18956/Rauf-Klasra/Chand-Khoufnak-Inkeshafaat--1.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 02, 2014, 03:14:00 PM
jia bhai,
under these circumtances
index ka 50,000 hona mushkil lagta haay :confused1:

http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/18996/Rauf-Klasra/Udal-E-Jahangeri-Ka-Dour-Lout-Aaya-Hai.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SBM on November 04, 2014, 08:37:48 PM
lols looks like this has become salammembers own personal thread  :laugh:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 04, 2014, 10:00:05 PM
he is becoming Major & Main threat to Sharif`s dynasty

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/11/04/newsroom-on-geo-news-governor-mohammad-sarwar-exclusive-4th-november-2014/ :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 04, 2014, 11:19:59 PM
Ghaddar Geo now Sharifs biggest critic,
paichaay kaun?
kia aab s---- ,b---b---- and j-- will take a sudden U-turn and start praising Geo
or will they turn against string pullers :skeptic:

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/11/04/capital-talk-senator-zulfiqar-khosa-exclusive-4th-november-2014/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 06, 2014, 11:41:46 PM

http://www.dawn.com/news/1142710/shahbaz-announces-rs5m-for-family-of-lynched-christian-couple
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 07, 2014, 12:32:35 PM
Modi Govt will b forced 2 dilute its hawkish stance on pakistan

http://www.hindustantimes.com/comment/analysis/forbearance-is-not-cowardice/article1-1283270.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 08, 2014, 03:08:50 PM
indeed very depressing,
lagta haay `No hope` situation haay
[today at 01:35:19 pm] abc: there is no new deal (china visit)
[today at 01:35:45 pm] abc: mou signed previously regarding all subjects
[today at 01:36:20 pm] abc: media has reported these china deals many times before
[today at 01:37:01 pm] abc: our govt focus more on propoganda & less on practical
[today at 01:39:00 pm] abc: ghanja is taking big kickbacks in all deals
[today at 01:40:39 pm]abc: i was present in one of meeting finalizing 660 mw coal project in punjab
[today at 01:42:01 pm] abc: i know how this nawaz haramein is taking kickbacks
[today at 01:42:29 pm] abc: in coal projects
[today at 01:45:07 pm] abc: pakistanis are a deaf, dumb, follish, stupid  & above all liar & worst corrupt nation
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 08, 2014, 09:22:23 PM
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/11/08/kyun-unwavering-commitment-my-life-is-dedicated-to-pakistan-8th-november-2014/

imran nahi sarwar-siraj  partnership khappay :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SBM on November 10, 2014, 02:45:24 AM
indeed very depressing,
lagta haay `No hope` situation haay
[today at 01:35:19 pm] abc: there is no new deal (china visit)
[today at 01:35:45 pm] abc: mou signed previously regarding all subjects
[today at 01:36:20 pm] abc: media has reported these china deals many times before
[today at 01:37:01 pm] abc: our govt focus more on propoganda & less on practical
[today at 01:39:00 pm] abc: ghanja is taking big kickbacks in all deals
[today at 01:40:39 pm]abc: i was present in one of meeting finalizing 660 mw coal project in punjab
[today at 01:42:01 pm] abc: i know how this nawaz haramein is taking kickbacks
[today at 01:42:29 pm] abc: in coal projects
[today at 01:45:07 pm] abc: pakistanis are a deaf, dumb, follish, stupid  & above all liar & worst corrupt nation

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: 007 on November 10, 2014, 03:55:07 AM
salma ki soliloquy

 :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 10, 2014, 12:35:37 PM
salma ki soliloquy

 :biggthumpup:

vocabulary is exceptional :biggthumpup:
though i always percieved bond as action hero :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 10, 2014, 12:40:44 PM
young and ignorant-fatal crash Gauranteed :(
post coviction waging a war against `E`
naivety peak :console:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/nov2014-daily/10-11-2014/u33055.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 11, 2014, 02:58:53 AM
competent `spoiler` but at what cost to country :skeptic:
probably most self centered politician in pak history     

http://jang.com.pk/jang/nov2014-daily/10-11-2014/u33113.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on November 13, 2014, 12:04:48 PM
competent `spoiler` but at what cost to country :skeptic:
probably most self centered politician in pak history     

http://jang.com.pk/jang/nov2014-daily/10-11-2014/u33113.htm

must be second cuz no1 can take the spot from zulfiqar ali bhutto  :D

Whats your take on mid term elections?
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 13, 2014, 12:33:49 PM
competent `spoiler` but at what cost to country :skeptic:
probably most self centered politician in pak history     

http://jang.com.pk/jang/nov2014-daily/10-11-2014/u33113.htm

must be second cuz no1 can take the spot from zulfiqar ali bhutto  :D

Whats your take on mid term elections?

bhai ZAB lovers and haters can never agree so baat no 1 finish :tongue:
fauj is happy with pml N now as they r in total and complete control
of foriegn policy, hence no need for midterm polls
fauj will always prefer NS over IK  and need good economy to ensure
defence budget nos atleast retained in coming years.
fauj has no need to fear NS anymore as he has lost ability to challenge E
and appear more interested in retaining PM office for another 5 years.
barring pti, all other political parties support him and clearly prefer babu
over E puppet
kse needs correction so rumors have re-surfaced helping khakis to continue
their operation in waziristan `unhindered`
buy on weakness and hold on to your quality maal,
yesterdays fipi figures support same
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on November 13, 2014, 11:37:42 PM
competent `spoiler` but at what cost to country :skeptic:
probably most self centered politician in pak history     

http://jang.com.pk/jang/nov2014-daily/10-11-2014/u33113.htm

must be second cuz no1 can take the spot from zulfiqar ali bhutto  :D

Whats your take on mid term elections?

bhai ZAB lovers and haters can never agree so baat no 1 finish :tongue:
fauj is happy with pml N now as they r in total and complete control
of foriegn policy, hence no need for midterm polls
fauj will always prefer NS over IK  and need good economy to ensure
defence budget nos atleast retained in coming years.
fauj has no need to fear NS anymore as he has lost ability to challenge E
and appear more interested in retaining PM office for another 5 years.
barring pti, all other political parties support him and clearly prefer babu
over E puppet
kse needs correction so rumors have re-surfaced helping khakis to continue
their operation in waziristan `unhindered`
buy on weakness and hold on to your quality maal,
yesterdays fipi figures support same


I hope things would be that easy but hope for the best in the interest of Pakistan  :fingerscrossed1:
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 14, 2014, 12:10:58 AM
Arsalan bro,
18th amendment has become NS insurance policy,
waisaay iss forum paar majority convinced `kuch nahi hota`
warna 80-90 or even 100% invested na hootaay uuu
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 14, 2014, 11:43:08 PM
worth a glance
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/regional/2014/11/141114_nehru_personality_rh
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 15, 2014, 11:16:57 AM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/nov2014-daily/15-11-2014/col1.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 15, 2014, 02:46:39 PM

Born politician/right move


http://jang.com.pk/jang/nov2014-daily/15-11-2014/u33523.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: dojikhan on November 15, 2014, 07:23:50 PM
JI also starting their own revolution on 21, 22, 23 with stage to be set at minar e pakistan.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 17, 2014, 12:30:06 AM
another geo show against pml N
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/11/16/aapas-ki-baat-khawaten-ko-harsha-karne-ke-hawale-se-bil-mein-tarmeem-16th-november-2014/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 18, 2014, 12:19:38 AM
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/11/17/why-kpk-health-minister-was-fired-waseem-badami-exposed-imran-khan/
Pti will not get free ride on 30 nov,
without E backing imran has started to find life much more difficult in pak politics and it will get worse in coming days.
Qadri and sh.rashid r E friends not ik supporter so thora boohat strong action possible which is creating
Uncertainity and worry because every  respectable figure in pak politics destroyed by ik inqilabi politics . Hopeing pml N will make major policy announcement in next 2 weeks as an antidote to dharna threat which means kse needs 2 remain in green .lets c what happens but substantial announcements khappay if NS wants 2 margnalise pti in punjab
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 18, 2014, 02:33:30 AM
work k elawa saab kuch karna haay :mad:


http://jang.com.pk/jang/nov2014-daily/17-11-2014/u33735.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 18, 2014, 12:00:42 PM
for ik fans

http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102531030&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20141118
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 19, 2014, 08:45:31 PM
True
http://jang.com.pk/jang/nov2014-daily/19-11-2014/col1.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 20, 2014, 10:43:30 PM
AZ trying to sell old wine in new bottle,
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/11/20/newseye-zulfiqar-mirza-phir-say-jaag-uthay-20th-november-2014/
Klasra has written several times about Mrs Mirza corruption as
NA speaker including 87 crore loan write off.
He himself has admitted becoming sugar mill owner due to his friendship with AZ.
2 days before this year meethi eid, pia flight from london was delayed for over an hour due to couple
delayed arrival (may b due to traffic congestion)
agar waqai poor ka khiyaal haay tu 25% wealth hee donate kaar daay,
donate paltuuu crocodiles (Re-klasra columns)to karachi zoo 
and openly fight against ppp corrupt elements in sindh -under or outside ppp banner.
rightly or wrongly,words corruption and zardari r inseperable at present and situation
unlikely 2 change for few decades tu another bilawal  Re-launch will  fail even with Mirza
induction in bilawal team.
PPP got just too many Questions to answer with regard to AZ 5 years presidency.
baqi,
sindh ka issue koi honest and trustworthy personality solve karaay Gee and at present
no such personality exist in sindh or pak politics, Pray boohat ziada blood na behaay but for next few or several years situation likely 2 remain unchanged.
Urdu speaking bolta haay merit laoooo,
sindhi bolta haay v r deprived so cant compete/ u had more than bigger share
post partition (even if it was on merit)aab quota system rahaay Ga and less competent
sindhi koo prefer kia jaayaee Ga whatever the cost is :skeptic:
both now well armed and convinced hum saachaay haay :( 
 
 

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 22, 2014, 01:39:39 PM
baat tu 100% true haay uuu

http://jang.com.pk/jang/nov2014-daily/22-11-2014/col5.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 22, 2014, 04:13:45 PM
naeem bukhari at his best

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/11/21/naeem-bokhari-ke-saath-21st-november-2014/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 23, 2014, 01:12:59 AM
laooo maal E and us $ :good


http://www.zemtv.com/2014/11/22/aapas-ki-baat-kya-pak-bharat-taluqaat-90s-ki-duhai-main-wapis-ja-rahe-hain-22nd-november-2014/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 23, 2014, 04:50:20 PM
http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/19379/Rauf-Klasra/Zindgi-Kay-Chand-Lumhay.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 24, 2014, 12:11:58 AM
now absar alam distressed but who cares  huhu huhu huhu


http://www.zemtv.com/2014/11/23/absar-alam-putting-allegations-of-corruption-on-imran-khans-late-father-in-live-show/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 24, 2014, 11:13:51 PM
bay-chara bilawal kia karaay :down:
future Dark saay Darker hota dikhta haay :skeptic:

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/11/24/mujeeb-ur-rehman-shami-telling-inside-story-behind-benazir-bhuttos-diamond-necklace/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 27, 2014, 12:18:59 AM
laoo maal pakland
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-opinions/.premium-1.627473
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 28, 2014, 10:13:17 PM
for maay na manoooooooooo Group of this forum :s1:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2014/11/141128_sairbeen_disco_fz
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 28, 2014, 10:49:09 PM
nehlaay paay dehlaaaaa :laugh:

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.628924
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 29, 2014, 01:37:19 PM

Aik Harami qaum :tongue:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/nov2014-daily/29-11-2014/u34737.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 29, 2014, 04:14:26 PM
Ruknaay na payaee silsala joo chala haay :biggthumpup:


http://www.zemtv.com/2014/11/29/naeem-bokhari-ke-saath-28th-november-2014/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 29, 2014, 04:16:23 PM
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/11/28/aaj-with-saadia-afzaal-exclusive-interview-with-choudhry-muhammad-sarwar-28th-november-2014/
lagta haay maay na manoooo group/e fans hamaisha k liay farig huwaay :good



Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 30, 2014, 03:22:22 AM
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/11/30/newseye-kal-kya-hoga-11pm-to-12am-29th-november-2014/

ik isolated as all established E agents staying away from islamabad on Boss instructions :tongue:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on December 03, 2014, 08:38:59 PM
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/11/30/newseye-kal-kya-hoga-11pm-to-12am-29th-november-2014/

ik isolated as all established E agents staying away from islamabad on Boss instructions :tongue:

falling oil also softening pti stance :tongue:
backfoot hee behtar haay at this moment  :rtfm:,
ik should know shahid afridi was jhatka test player because
he insisted on playing every ball on frontfoot :(
http://tribune.com.pk/story/801060/cec-post-govt-opposition-leaders-agree-on-names-of-3-ex-judges/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Dehan on December 03, 2014, 09:32:44 PM
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/11/30/newseye-kal-kya-hoga-11pm-to-12am-29th-november-2014/

ik isolated as all established E agents staying away from islamabad on Boss instructions :tongue:

falling oil also softening pti stance :tongue:
backfoot hee behtar haay at this moment  :rtfm:,
ik should know shahid afridi was jhatka test player because
he insisted on playing every ball on frontfoot :(
http://tribune.com.pk/story/801060/cec-post-govt-opposition-leaders-agree-on-names-of-3-ex-judges/

Asal baat ye ha k ab Sheeda Tully ki asliat thoori jaan gia hay IK. Aur os ki sargoshion pa kaan kum dharta hay. Aur b to banday hain dain bain on k sun loo yaar. Bhala ho ga ap ka b aur pooray mulk ka b.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: zohaibfiaz1 on December 04, 2014, 02:16:17 PM
hmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on December 07, 2014, 06:15:43 PM
Army khus
http://tribune.com.pk/story/803123/gen-raheel-meets-chinese-minister-for-public-security/
Amrika khus
http://tribune.com.pk/story/803105/drone-strike-kills-4-in-north-waziristan-6/
ALLAH?
ksa ki visit book karoo-PM :skeptic:
thats reflects todays pakland :(




Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on December 09, 2014, 05:48:14 PM
Plan D kya hoga?

raiwand ki taraf march?  :confused1:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on December 13, 2014, 06:28:17 PM
ZAB broke Pakistan-CONFIRMED
esp for arsalan, bullbears, space and their fans
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on December 13, 2014, 06:32:36 PM

ZAB broke Pakistan-CONFIRMED
esp for arsalan, bullbears, space and their fans

http://www.dawn.com/news/770315/the-crow-is-white-bengal-is-pakistan
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on December 14, 2014, 05:06:26 AM
lagta haay current pak hockey team trained by pti :skeptic:
view some classic photos

http://www.hindustantimes.com/sports-news/othersports/hockey-pak-players-hurl-obscene-gestures-towards-crowd-media-after-win/article1-1296307.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on December 14, 2014, 02:12:36 PM
Haroon Rashid k `about-turn` k baad baqi Fani b touba kaar laay
though
bari dair ki meharbaan naay aataay aataay :skeptic:
50% pakistan lost , humiliating defeat tasted in 71, KK and Drug culture engulfing
whole of pakistan since afghan jihad---------------list too long.
level of Generousity -no apologies for actively defending and supporting people in charge
while all the above disasters were happening, just realisation  :mad:


http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/19785/Haroon-ur-Rasheed/Bharti-Shararat-Ka-Andesha.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on December 14, 2014, 02:16:38 PM
Haroon Rashid k `about-turn` k baad baqi E Fans b touba kaar laay
though
bari dair ki meharbaan naay aataay aataay :skeptic:
50% pakistan lost , humiliating defeat tasted in 71, KK and Drug culture engulfing
whole of pakistan since afghan jihad---------------list too long.
level of Generousity -no apologies for actively defending and supporting people in charge
while all the above disasters were happening, just realisation  :mad:


http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/19785/Haroon-ur-Rasheed/Bharti-Shararat-Ka-Andesha.aspx
[/quote]
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on December 14, 2014, 06:43:56 PM
human :skeptic:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/interactivity/2014/12/141214_baat_say_baat_zz
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on December 20, 2014, 04:02:21 PM
for EU insani huqooq k ilambardar attention,
v and they know living conditions in pak prisons
,hanging probably easier option

http://jang.com.pk/jang/dec2014-daily/20-12-2014/u36536.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on December 21, 2014, 04:48:09 PM
esp for bullsbears and his fans


http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/19926/Rauf-Klasra/General-Zia-Ke-Khawab-Ki-Tabeer.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on December 21, 2014, 04:56:19 PM

ZAB broke Pakistan-CONFIRMED
esp for arsalan, bullbears, space and their fans

http://www.dawn.com/news/770315/the-crow-is-white-bengal-is-pakistan

http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/19885/Rauf-Klasra/Mashraqi-Pakistan-Sanha-Karwa-Amrici-Sach.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on December 22, 2014, 01:54:08 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/interactivity/2014/12/141221_baat_say_baat_zz
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on December 22, 2014, 09:33:54 PM

ZAB broke Pakistan-CONFIRMED
esp for arsalan, bullbears, space and their fans

http://www.dawn.com/news/770315/the-crow-is-white-bengal-is-pakistan

http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/19885/Rauf-Klasra/Mashraqi-Pakistan-Sanha-Karwa-Amrici-Sach.aspx


Salaam bro do watch today's Hamid Mir capital thing on Geo.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on December 24, 2014, 12:52:37 AM
on arsalan bro wish for blind eyes and deaf ears :down:

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/12/22/capital-talk-incident-of-dacca-22nd-december-2014/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on December 26, 2014, 01:10:48 AM
on arsalan bro wish for blind eyes and deaf ears :down:

http://www.zemtv.com/2014/12/22/capital-talk-incident-of-dacca-22nd-december-2014/

http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102593613&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20141225
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on December 27, 2014, 06:28:45 PM
Head of `may na manoo Group`under pressure
boohaat kuch (BB k khilaaf E k jhoot) expose kaar Gia


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x199qey_who-killed-zia-ul-haq-gen-hameed-gul_news
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on December 28, 2014, 10:01:18 PM
http://www.zemtv.com/2014/12/28/reality-of-pakistan-in-4-minutes-pakistan-as-baksho/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on December 31, 2014, 01:26:13 AM
Good discussion,
ruknaay na paayaee yeh silsala joo chala haay


http://www.zemtv.com/2014/12/30/capital-talkfauji-adaltoon-ka-qayam-supreme-court-ki-khilaf-warzi-hai-30th-december-2014/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on January 03, 2015, 02:45:36 AM
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/national/02-Jan-2015/ayaz-fortifies-his-lead-against-imran-in-recounting-in-na-122-constituency
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on January 03, 2015, 11:13:18 AM
http://tribune.com.pk/story/816238/stabilising-economy-broken-promises-and-unachieved-goals/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on January 03, 2015, 11:35:46 AM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/jan2015-daily/03-01-2015/col2.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on January 03, 2015, 02:04:04 PM
very interesting and well researched

http://www.dawn.com/news/1154419/abul-ala-maududi-an-existentialist-history
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on January 03, 2015, 05:27:09 PM
yehi chiraag jalaay gaay tu roshni hoo gee :rtfm:


http://tribune.com.pk/story/810996/ties-triumph-pakistan-russia-ink-1-7b-energy-deal/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on January 16, 2015, 12:14:02 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/regional/2015/01/150115_murugan_quit_writing_as
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on January 16, 2015, 01:34:19 PM
iss zulm saay Daar lagta haay


http://jang.com.pk/jang/jan2015-daily/16-01-2015/u38950.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on January 18, 2015, 03:09:47 PM
http://www.hindustantimes.com/brunch-stories/when-imran-wed-reham/article1-1307767.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on January 20, 2015, 02:08:15 AM
http://tribune.com.pk/story/824253/in-memory-celebrating-the-life-of-bacha-khan-on-his-27th-death-anniversary/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on January 22, 2015, 05:50:26 PM
Nawaz popularity is rapidly dwindling (aik statement from senior member). I wonder popularity survey was independent or E sponsored   :crying_anim02:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on January 24, 2015, 02:22:11 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2015/01/150123_zia_legacy_fz
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on January 24, 2015, 11:24:34 PM
post shadi, he will b more conforntational :rtfm:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/01/24/aapas-ki-baat-kya-na-122-main-dhandhli-hui-24th-january-2015/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on January 26, 2015, 12:36:48 AM
sethi is best :biggthumpup:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/01/25/aapas-ki-baat-obama-gets-warm-welcome-from-narendra-modi-in-india-25th-january-2015/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on January 29, 2015, 12:15:56 AM
for JAG, Bullbears and space :skeptic:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/01/28/look-what-talat-hussain-said-about-geo-and-now-he-is-joining-geo-shame/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on January 29, 2015, 01:30:55 AM
lagta haay solution ki taraf jaa rahaay haay but lets hope final showdown ki zaroorat
hee nahi paraay Gee :fingerscrossed1:
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/01/28/aaj-shahzaib-khanzada-ke-saathmqm-ka-kal-youm-e-soug-manane-ka-elaan-28th-january-2014/
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Post by: Salammembers on January 30, 2015, 12:59:31 AM
http://tribune.com.pk/story/829577/pti-ppp-attempting-to-lure-former-punjab-governor-sarwar-sources/

PPP is closed chapter in punjab for the moment,
PTI maay IK saay personality clash hoo Ga plus his base
will b punjab while IK is surrounded by kP politicians,
he cannot challenge Sharif brothers within PML N
because age factor is against him.
best bet-aik aur PML-Real muslim league with E support
lets c kia hota haay but he has got ability -kash thora young hota
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on February 01, 2015, 11:22:03 PM
saying all the Right things with conviction :rtfm:
Babu pareshan hoo Ga :crying_anim02: :crying_anim02: :crying_anim02:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/02/01/chaudhary-muhammad-sarwar-media-talk-1st-february-2015/
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Post by: Salammembers on February 02, 2015, 03:25:36 AM
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/02/02/naeem-bokhari-ke-saath-2nd-january-2015/
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Post by: Salammembers on February 05, 2015, 01:09:08 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-31057350
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Post by: Salammembers on February 05, 2015, 10:08:43 PM
Death certified but Funeral date still undecided :(

http://www.sunuptimes.com/babar-awan-zamurd-khan-may-join-pti-tonight/

http://www.geo.tv/article-174131-Imran-welcomes-Barrister-Sultan-Mehmood-to-PTI
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Post by: Salammembers on February 12, 2015, 03:10:33 AM
khanzada at his best

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/02/11/aaj-shahzaib-khanzada-ke-saathzulfiqar-mirza-phir-samne-agaye-11th-february-2015/
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Post by: Salammembers on February 13, 2015, 03:05:08 AM
invisible hand New play :skeptic:

http://nation.com.pk/national/13-Apr-2013/dr-mubashir-apologises-to-anwar-majid
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Post by: Salammembers on February 14, 2015, 04:58:18 PM
esp for mush fans :skeptic:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/02/13/naeem-bokhari-ke-saath-genr-pervez-musharraf-exclusive-interview-13th-february-2015/
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Post by: Salammembers on February 14, 2015, 05:46:30 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/feb2015-daily/14-02-2015/col1.html
both politicians and puppeteer getting weak :fingerscrossed1:
A puppeteer is a person who manipulates an inanimate object—a puppet—in real time to create the illusion of life. The puppeteer may be visible to or hidden from the audience. A puppeteer can operate a puppet indirectly by the use of strings, rods, wires, electronics or directly by his or her own hands placed inside the puppet or holding it externally.(wiki)
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Post by: Salammembers on February 21, 2015, 05:27:12 PM
Humans r same
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-20/why-israel-wants-europe-s-jews-hint-not-just-to-shield-them-from-terrorists-
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Post by: Salammembers on February 22, 2015, 06:52:54 PM
D in USA

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/politics/a-bush-outsider-backing-jeb-but-wary-of-family-business.html?emc=edit_th_20150222&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=63742525&_r=1&referrer=
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Post by: Salammembers on February 22, 2015, 06:59:45 PM
D in USA

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/politics/a-bush-outsider-backing-jeb-but-wary-of-family-business.html?emc=edit_th_20150222&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=63742525&_r=1&referrer=

interesting but not a surprise :tongue:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/nyregion/mariam-ghani-a-brooklyn-artist-whose-father-leads-afghanistan.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on February 27, 2015, 11:24:34 PM
operation clean up

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/27/us/california-convicts-are-out-of-prison-after-third-strike-and-staying-out.html?emc=edit_th_20150227&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=63742525
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on February 28, 2015, 01:46:38 PM
got deep understanding of islam

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/02/27/mahesh-bhatt-speech-about-islam-must/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on February 28, 2015, 02:09:36 PM
iqbal k khawab ka kia hoo Ga :skeptic:
qasmi says-
tu punjabi haay tu punjabi baan :confused1:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/feb2015-daily/28-02-2015/col4.htm
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Post by: Salammembers on February 28, 2015, 04:03:33 PM
Hard talk :o
IK given Rough ride by moeed pirzada
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/02/27/sayasat-hai-ya-saazish-pakistan-are-morally-destroyed-imran-khan-27th-february/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 03, 2015, 02:52:18 AM
ooyee nawaz shaif :rtfm:

http://www.express.pk/story/332733/

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on March 04, 2015, 12:58:06 AM
Very interesting read!

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31700894?ocid=socialflow_facebook


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Post by: Salammembers on March 04, 2015, 01:58:22 AM
Very interesting read!

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31700894?ocid=socialflow_facebook
very interesting but also predictable answers :tongue:
role and answers can easily b reversed by any uk trained journalist
of average intelligence :thanks:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on March 04, 2015, 03:05:54 PM
Very interesting read!

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31700894?ocid=socialflow_facebook
very interesting but also predictable answers :tongue:
role and answers can easily b reversed by any uk trained journalist
of average intelligence :thanks:


Yes i used to thought bbc was independent but during scottish referendum they showed how biased they were. Anyway the interesting thing is that a lot of teenagers are going to syria and iraq from uk and the govt does not seem to have a clue how to stop them so they bring this guy again to help them. seems hes still available for good money.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 07, 2015, 03:02:32 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/31744694
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Post by: Salammembers on March 07, 2015, 04:06:25 PM
Right move :skeptic:


http://www.geo.tv/article-177461-PML-N-recommends-Hasil-Bizenjo-for-Senate-Chairman-
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Post by: Salammembers on March 07, 2015, 04:31:50 PM
for helpless kP senators :o

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/07/us/menendez-expected-to-face-federal-corruption-charges.html?emc=edit_th_20150307&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=63742525
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Post by: sheikhnazir11 on March 07, 2015, 10:54:48 PM
salammembers sahib,
kuch log kehte hen k aap doctor hen, kuchh kehte hen k aap bare politician hen. kuchh kehte hen k aap economist and stock analyst hen .aakhir aap kiya hen?introduction karwaen. ya aap 3 in one hen
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 07, 2015, 11:27:02 PM
salammembers sahib,
kuch log kehte hen k aap doctor hen, kuchh kehte hen k aap bare politician hen. kuchh kehte hen k aap economist and stock analyst hen .aakhir aap kiya hen?introduction karwaen. ya aap 3 in one hen


Average soul with lots of interest in following events in different parts of world.
Slowly one realise human behaviour is Similar everywhere and shaitan judgment  about
Humans potential to cause harm and destroy was brilliant :skeptic: tu jaha b drama shroo hota haay, i try to judge outcome and learn something positive and understand insan bit more.
It's hard work but not difficult if one is interested. Baqi, I get many things wrong daily and believe learning is life long
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 08, 2015, 12:42:48 AM
now modi-mufti Nora :laugh:
modi koo noble price for peace khappay :skeptic:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/mufti-govt-orders-release-of-top-j-k-separatist-bjp-protests-move-cong-asks-pm-to-clarify/article1-1323928.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 08, 2015, 01:42:58 AM
Goodbye bibi? :skeptic:
from haretz.com
-Tens of thousands expected to attend anti-Netanyahu rally on Saturday
Former Mossad chiefs Meir Dagan and Amiram Levin among the speakers, along with war widow whose husband died in last summer’s Gaza conflict.
-Report: Netanyahu offered Palestinians major concessions in secret peace talks
Concessions included evacuation of large number of settlements, limited right of return for refugees; PM's office says document was U.S. proposal rejected by Israel.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 08, 2015, 12:28:26 PM
yes,
v believe u :laugh:

Senator Bizenjo said he was not aware that his name was being considered for the slot. However, he added that if asked, he would be ready to serve as Senate chairman.
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Post by: Salammembers on March 08, 2015, 12:35:11 PM
lagaay rahoo munna bhai , koi nahi
sunn raha:laugh:

http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102724213&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20150308
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Post by: Salammembers on March 08, 2015, 12:40:30 PM
time to get JI back into Parliament,
if he continues at this pace, ji may clinch 4-8 seats in next election


http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102724200&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20150308
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Post by: Salammembers on March 08, 2015, 03:07:54 PM
finally after 37 years first unemotional and objective analysis
of ZAB and his Governance

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/03/06/naeem-bokhari-ke-saath-bhutto-ki-shaksiat-k-mukhtalif-pehlu-6th-march-2015/
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Post by: Salammembers on March 11, 2015, 12:16:41 AM
http://tribune.com.pk/story/850850/nawaz-approves-of-raza-rabbani-as-senate-chairman/

easiest nora played by zardari to date,
PM happy Raza Rabbani presence makes khakis take over almost impossible
, his main rival IK completely isolated and made to look novice once again.
plus mush paar aab courts ka pressure barhaay Ga :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:
KSA maay sharif brothers ka boohat time waste kia ,now its payback time :@
AZ feeling less insecure about incompetent sindh Govt and kali kamai :tongue:
bhai also  feeling more relaxed in uk.
aab zulfiqar mirza kia karaay Ga :skeptic: shayid for next 3 yrs bhai ka Guest
hoo Ga :console:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 11, 2015, 02:21:04 AM
now modi-mufti Nora :laugh:
modi koo noble price for peace khappay :skeptic:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/mufti-govt-orders-release-of-top-j-k-separatist-bjp-protests-move-cong-asks-pm-to-clarify/article1-1323928.aspx
modi-mufti Nora-2nd episode  :laugh:
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102728084&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20150310
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 12, 2015, 11:24:09 AM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/mar2015-daily/12-03-2015/col4.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 13, 2015, 01:12:15 PM
http://www.dawn.com/news/1169319/90-raid-aftermath-mqm-at-crossroads
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 14, 2015, 04:25:11 PM
hardtalk :skeptic:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/mar2015-daily/14-03-2015/col2.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 17, 2015, 01:17:34 AM
for maay na manoo Group :laugh:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/03/16/pti-aur-geo-ke-darmiyan-mamlaat-tai-paa-gaye-hain-talat-hussain-invites-imran-khan-on-geo/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 17, 2015, 01:10:58 PM
D ka chaskaaaaaaa
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/entertainment/2015/03/150317_nandita_das_censorship_india_zs
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 17, 2015, 01:14:21 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/mar2015-daily/17-03-2015/col3.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 17, 2015, 11:48:25 PM
pandora box ,
abhi tu sirf lid has opened :skeptic:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/03/17/see-how-analyist-iftikhar-ahmed-defending-atlaf-hussain-statement-against-rangers/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 19, 2015, 03:20:32 AM
Saulat mirza video interview-script writer same lagta haay :skeptic:


when Bhutto was deposed. Iftikhar Tari, who had the reputation of a goon, appeared broken after release. He narrated his ordeal on TV and could not stop crying in a program called, Zulm ki dastanay.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 19, 2015, 12:52:21 PM
todays joke or in persistent Denial huhu huhu huhu

v r Responsible Islamic state-Ch.Nisar :good
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 20, 2015, 09:35:55 PM
Gene Aik haay  ::)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/regional/2015/03/150320_india_doctors_suhail_zs
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Post by: Salammembers on March 21, 2015, 04:54:56 AM
http://www.dawn.com/news/1170846/why-the-caged-bird-sings
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Post by: Salammembers on March 21, 2015, 07:48:02 PM
esp for bro sheikh nazir 11  :skeptic:
what i wrote yesterday on board,  today its a published
warning from respectable journalist  :rtfm:

  http://jang.com.pk/jang/mar2015-daily/21-03-2015/col3.htm
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Post by: Salammembers on March 21, 2015, 11:15:07 PM
aaj ki taza khabar :dunno:
pakland maay angels born-Sethi  :good

watch Charismatic but controversial Najam sethi
in todays (21/3/15) aapis ki baat,
sethi can suddenly develop amnesia regarding invisible hand behaviour during IK-TUQ dharna but
many keen observers of  Pakland political landscape are neither  opportunistic souls
nor follow these events just for fun
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 22, 2015, 04:09:27 PM
wonderful :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2015/03/150322_baat_say_baat_hk
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Post by: Salammembers on March 23, 2015, 01:56:47 PM
zakhmi lion or sincere effort-u decide :skeptic:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/mar2015-daily/23-03-2015/col2.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 24, 2015, 12:59:47 AM
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/03/23/kharra-sach-mqm-ka-bhanda-phut-gaya-23rd-march-2015/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 24, 2015, 05:05:39 PM
AZ another master stroke :skeptic:
aik arrow saay several Shikar :laugh:

http://www.dawn.com/news/1171436/quaids-aug-11-speech-to-be-included-in-school-curriculum
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on March 28, 2015, 03:18:07 PM
last para for IK :tongue:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/mar2015-daily/28-03-2015/col1.html
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Post by: Salammembers on March 28, 2015, 09:58:43 PM
ALLAH ka shukar yeh 1979 nahi and v got loli langri D :biggthumpup:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/03/28/mere-mutabiq-with-sohail-waraich-28th-march-2015/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on April 03, 2015, 12:50:38 AM
karachi/ttp issue looks like a mole to NS and E at the moment :crying_anim02: :crying_anim02: :crying_anim02:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/yemen-crisis-what-will-saudi-arabia-do-when--not-if--things-go-wrong-in-their-war-with-the-shia-houthi-rebels-10153113.html
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Post by: Salammembers on April 09, 2015, 08:20:17 AM
Baat To Sach Hai MaGar Baat Hai Ruswai Ki :o

http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102782031&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20150409
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Post by: Salammembers on April 09, 2015, 06:37:26 PM

"Jis ka kaam usi ko saaje- aur kare to Tthun Tthun Baje" :tongue:

 http://jang.com.pk/jang/apr2015-daily/09-04-2015/col2.htm
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Post by: SBM on April 14, 2015, 02:27:01 PM

"Jis ka kaam usi ko saaje- aur kare to Tthun Tthun Baje" :tongue:

 http://jang.com.pk/jang/apr2015-daily/09-04-2015/col2.htm

Sir kidher hain ap ? not contributing on forum any more ?
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Post by: Salammembers on April 21, 2015, 10:08:28 PM
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102804683&Issue=NP_KHI&Date=20150421 :(
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on April 23, 2015, 11:07:35 PM
MQM won due to invisible hand negative media campaign  :skeptic:
now all Zardari sins will b forgiven soon and he will become most
popular Politician in interior sindh :rtfm:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/04/23/asif-zardari-kept-three-american-call-girls-in-president-house-for-three-years-zulfiqar-mirza/
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Post by: Salammembers on April 24, 2015, 05:46:18 AM
after MQM win, spotlight back on IK negative politics and Judgement  :[
 

http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102782031&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20150409
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on April 24, 2015, 10:55:41 PM
another humiliating defeat in BD,
team still struggling to find Right combination :confused1:,
Waqar keep forcing young captain to do post-match media confrence,
disappointing to c waqar insistance on sarfraz exclusion from openening slot,
talent nahi haay but jitna b haay its not being utilised fairly and honestly,
if every province is divided tu why moan about groups within the team :skeptic:
but dil tu dil haay, hence Dukhta b haay :(
i think Rashid latif is least controversial and most credible figure in pakland at present
 
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on April 24, 2015, 11:00:25 PM
http://www.dawn.com/news/1177956/director-t2f-sabeen-mahmud-shot-dead-in-karachi
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 02, 2015, 06:56:19 PM
baas martial law nahi lagnaay dayna  :rtfm:
baqi saab khair haay :fingerscrossed1:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2015-daily/02-05-2015/index.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 02, 2015, 07:27:13 PM
after tribunal Gate, now IK latest Gift to nation
is Tabdeeli Gate :laugh:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2015-daily/02-05-2015/col2.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Dehan on May 02, 2015, 09:16:23 PM
after tribunal Gate, now IK latest Gift to nation
is Tabdeeli Gate :laugh:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2015-daily/02-05-2015/col2.htm
Insaaf ki baat karnein walon sa
Ye  kholli bay-insaafi ha.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 03, 2015, 12:23:24 PM
http://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan/2015/05/150503_baat_se_baat_hk
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 03, 2015, 01:44:37 PM
http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/22769/Haroon-ur-Rasheed/Subhan-Allah.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 04, 2015, 06:18:15 PM
Good decision,
sindh will suffer without gaining anything
 

http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2015-daily/04-05-2015/u49052.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 04, 2015, 06:21:09 PM
4 halkaaay NS k Galaaay maay :laugh:
politicians koo haar waqt attention rakhooooo :good
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 04, 2015, 08:00:07 PM
4 halkaaay NS k Galaaay maay :laugh:
politicians koo haar waqt attention rakhooooo :good
saad Rafique koo filhaal kahee aur `busy` kaar diya :tongue:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 07, 2015, 03:32:26 AM
4 halkaaay NS k Galaaay maay :laugh:
politicians koo haar waqt attention rakhooooo :good
saad Rafique koo filhaal kahee aur `busy` kaar diya :tongue:
abhi tu party shru hoi haay :skeptic:
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102834958&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20150507
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 10, 2015, 07:49:14 PM
1971 can b repeated in no time as whole country  is well armed and used to seeing dead bodies daily,
18th amendment is shield against further division of Pakistan but one unit creators k fans agar aaab b
Danda rule chataay haay tu laaaay aaooooo huhu huhu huhu history has already highlighted real reasons behind BD independence , after few years dobaraa kuch name history books maay likhaay gaay



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/politics-blog/11594721/For-the-good-of-the-Union-its-time-for-England-to-stand-up-to-the-Scots.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 16, 2015, 09:31:34 PM
cruel and immoral qaum or v can blame idaraaaay only?
if Ch.Nisar was God fearing person, sirf iss aik baat paar
resign kaar dayta :skeptic:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/05/16/federal-govt-used-saulat-mirza-for-their-politics-saulat-mirzas-wife/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 16, 2015, 09:39:46 PM
Probably More LETHAL than Zulfiqar Mirza :skeptic:

http://www.dawn.com/news/1182197/a-house-for-zardari
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 16, 2015, 10:42:45 PM
yesterdays shahid masood comments and todays aapis ki baat comments saay tu
lagta haay Governor Rule on the way in Sindh though as a compromise v may c
very powerful new Governor with minimal interfrence from CM/cabinet :skeptic:
matbal all karachi Gangs need to know its time to leave karachi/ idhar kissi aur ka
Raj aa giya haay :tongue: but many will say  its tried and tested failed formula which
will ultimately fail due to very COMPLEX situation and Multiple issues which needs focused
and commited long term plan :confused1:
chalooo aik aur experiment kaar laay but iss baar reserve maay koi uniting force nahi
 :thumbsup_anim: 

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/05/15/live-with-dr-shahid-masood-sindh-ka-siasi-mustaqbil-15th-may/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 17, 2015, 12:37:33 AM
before Governor rule, iss ka kuch karna hoo Ga :skeptic:


http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2015-daily/16-05-2015/u50216.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 18, 2015, 12:28:05 PM
corruption hoo rahee haay or punjab once again putting punjabis first  :confused1:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2015-daily/18-05-2015/u50345.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 18, 2015, 02:23:32 PM
kamran khan biggest loser-Geo biggest winner?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/18/world/asia/fake-diplomas-real-cash-pakistani-company-axact-reaps-millions-columbiana-barkley.html?emc=edit_th_20150518&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=63742525&_r=0
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 19, 2015, 12:27:26 AM
space, jag and bull bears bhai,
time to remove mulk dushman label and award jang Group
`Loyalty to country ALWAYs` certificate :tongue:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2015-daily/18-05-2015/col6.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 19, 2015, 01:14:50 AM
corruption hoo rahee haay or punjab once again putting punjabis first  :confused1:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2015-daily/18-05-2015/u50345.htm

Alixdxb views khappay :thanks:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 19, 2015, 12:13:45 PM

http://www.bbc.com/urdu/world/2015/05/150519_egypt_sexual_assault_increase_report_mb

Egypt koo Arab Faiz khappay :skeptic:
Nisaar main  teri galiyon peh ai watan,
keh jahan
Chali hai rasm keh koi na sar utha keh chale
Jo koi chahane wala tawaaf ko nikale
Nazar chura keh chale, Jismo-jan bacha keh chale
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 21, 2015, 04:52:01 AM
corruption hoo rahee haay or punjab once again putting punjabis first  :confused1:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2015-daily/18-05-2015/u50345.htm


now Ji Siraj ul haq raising same question :skeptic:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2015-daily/20-05-2015/u50616.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: mehreenzafar on May 21, 2015, 05:53:01 PM
Today first time i have seem IK doing some work in KPK hAZARA. When i was searching <a href="http://www.pakpaper.net/">Newspaper Jobs in Pakistan</a>] i went out of my zcn's home AS new roads construction plans is just started. best of luck IK
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 21, 2015, 09:02:14 PM
Today first time i have seem IK doing some work in KPK hAZARA. When i was searching <a href="http://www.pakpaper.net/">Newspaper Jobs in Pakistan</a>] i went out of my zcn's home AS new roads construction plans is just started. best of luck IK

thanks for sharing :thanks:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Dehan on May 21, 2015, 10:28:35 PM
Today first time i have seem IK doing some work in KPK hAZARA. When i was searching <a href="http://www.pakpaper.net/">Newspaper Jobs in Pakistan</a>] i went out of my zcn's home AS new roads construction plans is just started. best of luck IK

thanks for sharing :thanks:
You mentioned First time u have seen some work in KPK. Its highly objectionable and discriminatory as IK is performing for the day it took  power in KPK. Not only in KPK he is performing all over the country specially against Dhandli.
Dont worry Year 2015 will b election year.
Soonaami will devastate and PTI will get 2.85/3 majority.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 21, 2015, 11:24:08 PM
bola na,
aab D koo knock out karna itna EASY nahi :rtfm:

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-185528-Favourable-political-atmosphere-building-after-Zarb-e-Azb:-COAS
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 22, 2015, 12:54:46 PM
Harttalk :skeptic:
kia karaay unlike humans,
history bhool-tee nahi :crying_anim02:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2015-daily/22-05-2015/col6.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 23, 2015, 01:45:12 AM
bola na,
aab D koo knock out karna itna EASY nahi :rtfm:

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-185528-Favourable-political-atmosphere-building-after-Zarb-e-Azb:-COAS

2015 maay umpire saab k samnaay haay :[
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/05/22/aapas-ki-baat-asif-ali-zardari-ke-kuch-ahem-bayanaat-22nd-may-2015/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 23, 2015, 04:15:47 PM
pakistan ka masala-adha such adhaa jhoot :rtfm:


http://www.zemtv.com/2015/05/23/im-absolutely-speechless-after-watching-this-video-had-tears-in-my-eyes-because-this-is-what-we-are-doing-now-a-days-with-other-muslims/



Golden speech but its not going 2 solve deep divisions within pakistan  :skeptic:,
unless Bara bhai accepts Bara hoonaay ka Boohat Faida utha-yaa  haay directly and indirectly, E admits its role in 1971 break up to escape accountability, Sindhis admit v r acting like big brother in sindh, mohajir accept their unjustified support to 2
Dictators and condemn mqm criminals, Balochis wholeheartedly condemn  innocent poor punjabis killing by freedom fighters, pathans acknowledge harm done by illegal Bara`s, Guns and drugs smuggling to rest of the population etc etc only then v can discuss Progress but Qaum filhaal iss mood maay nahi , hum apnaay favourites or view point koo defend kartaay waqt openly dandi martaay haay, May Allah have mercy on us because filhaal tu mazeed MAAR dikhti haay :(
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 23, 2015, 05:17:41 PM
http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-30227-How-did-Musharraf-become-a-billionaire

maay karoo tu sala charater dheela haay-AZ/NS :@
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 28, 2015, 01:19:34 AM
ML at his best after a very long time :biggthumpup:


http://www.zemtv.com/2015/05/27/situation-room-mubashir-luqman-se-karwi-suchi-aur-khari-baten-27th-may-2015-930-pm-to-1030-pm/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 28, 2015, 11:37:04 AM
history maaf nahi karti nor it forgets :o

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/blundering-tony-blair-quits-as-middle-east-peace-envoy--only-israel-will-miss-him-10279906.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on May 30, 2015, 01:30:13 PM
corruption hoo rahee haay or punjab once again putting punjabis first  :confused1:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2015-daily/18-05-2015/u50345.htm

http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2015-daily/30-05-2015/col2.htm
still D is winner :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on June 16, 2015, 11:57:29 AM
Red Alert for COAS :rtfm:
history has repeatedly proved such voices r uttered by shah saay ziada shah k wafadar either due to ignorance/oversimplifiction or due 2 vested interest :skeptic:


[today at 11:47:19 am] xyz: today the inititave to fix pak is none other than army chief,, these politicians are the biggest hindrance in the progress of this country coz their greed doesnt let them think about the country
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on June 16, 2015, 09:29:59 PM
Red Alert for COAS :rtfm:
history has repeatedly proved such voices r uttered by shah saay ziada shah k wafadar either due to ignorance/oversimplifiction or due 2 vested interest :skeptic:


[today at 11:47:19 am] xyz: today the inititave to fix pak is none other than army chief,, these politicians are the biggest hindrance in the progress of this country coz their greed doesnt let them think about the country
politicians ka Nora :tongue:
PM appears 2 b part of Gameplan :rtfm:
bola na NO politician willing to let third party rule in order to settle
score with rival politiian :down: 
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/06/16/angry-zardari-blasts-away-at-the-military-asif-ali-zardari-speech-16th-june-2015/

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/06/16/mqm-walo-sharam-karo-haya-karo-jab-khawaja-asif-pti-ko-galian-deta-hai-desk-bajatey-ho-aur-jab/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on June 17, 2015, 10:55:36 AM
Red Alert for COAS :rtfm:
history has repeatedly proved such voices r uttered by shah saay ziada shah k wafadar either due to ignorance/oversimplifiction or due 2 vested interest :skeptic:


[today at 11:47:19 am] xyz: today the inititave to fix pak is none other than army chief,, these politicians are the biggest hindrance in the progress of this country coz their greed doesnt let them think about the country
politicians ka Nora :tongue:
PM appears 2 b part of Gameplan :rtfm:
bola na NO politician willing to let third party rule in order to settle
score with rival politiian :down: 
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/06/16/angry-zardari-blasts-away-at-the-military-asif-ali-zardari-speech-16th-june-2015/

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/06/16/mqm-walo-sharam-karo-haya-karo-jab-khawaja-asif-pti-ko-galian-deta-hai-desk-bajatey-ho-aur-jab/
Zardari outburst :mad:
its fairly simple equation but pple like hameed gul refuse to accept it :o
deliberately or unintentionally ALLAH janaay :skeptic:
when army takes over majority of punjab junta benefits in some way as 60% workforce belongs to punjab and probably every  third family got some connection with army people but same does not apply to smaller provinces
if punjab population wants army rule in punjab thats fine but smaller provinces no longer willing to accept danda in name of national interest :[
if E can expose, arrest and punish culprits through civil courts corrupt politicians will b marginalised over a period of time but these things do take decades , agar phir jaldi ki
tu bigger crisis likely
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on June 17, 2015, 08:33:37 PM
Red Alert for COAS :rtfm:
history has repeatedly proved such voices r uttered by shah saay ziada shah k wafadar either due to ignorance/oversimplifiction or due 2 vested interest :skeptic:


[today at 11:47:19 am] xyz: today the inititave to fix pak is none other than army chief,, these politicians are the biggest hindrance in the progress of this country coz their greed doesnt let them think about the country
politicians ka Nora :tongue:
PM appears 2 b part of Gameplan :rtfm:
bola na NO politician willing to let third party rule in order to settle
score with rival politiian :down: 
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/06/16/angry-zardari-blasts-away-at-the-military-asif-ali-zardari-speech-16th-june-2015/

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/06/16/mqm-walo-sharam-karo-haya-karo-jab-khawaja-asif-pti-ko-galian-deta-hai-desk-bajatey-ho-aur-jab/
Zardari outburst :mad:
its fairly simple equation but pple like hameed gul refuse to accept it :o
deliberately or unintentionally ALLAH janaay :skeptic:
when army takes over majority of punjab junta benefits in some way as 60% workforce belongs to punjab and probably every  third family got some connection with army people but same does not apply to smaller provinces
if punjab population wants army rule in punjab thats fine but smaller provinces no longer willing to accept danda in name of national interest :[
if E can expose, arrest and punish culprits through civil courts corrupt politicians will b marginalised over a period of time but these things do take decades , agar phir jaldi ki
tu bigger crisis likely
only punjab has criticized outburst so far,
next 48 hrs critical for kse though todays Gora buying
is encouraging :skeptic:.

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Dehan on June 17, 2015, 10:22:29 PM
Red Alert for COAS :rtfm:
history has repeatedly proved such voices r uttered by shah saay ziada shah k wafadar either due to ignorance/oversimplifiction or due 2 vested interest :skeptic:


[today at 11:47:19 am] xyz: today the inititave to fix pak is none other than army chief,, these politicians are the biggest hindrance in the progress of this country coz their greed doesnt let them think about the country
politicians ka Nora :tongue:
PM appears 2 b part of Gameplan :rtfm:
bola na NO politician willing to let third party rule in order to settle
score with rival politiian :down: 
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/06/16/angry-zardari-blasts-away-at-the-military-asif-ali-zardari-speech-16th-june-2015/

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/06/16/mqm-walo-sharam-karo-haya-karo-jab-khawaja-asif-pti-ko-galian-deta-hai-desk-bajatey-ho-aur-jab/
Zardari outburst :mad:
its fairly simple equation but pple like hameed gul refuse to accept it :o
deliberately or unintentionally ALLAH janaay :skeptic:
when army takes over majority of punjab junta benefits in some way as 60% workforce belongs to punjab and probably every  third family got some connection with army people but same does not apply to smaller provinces
if punjab population wants army rule in punjab thats fine but smaller provinces no longer willing to accept danda in name of national interest :[
if E can expose, arrest and punish culprits through civil courts corrupt politicians will b marginalised over a period of time but these things do take decades , agar phir jaldi ki
tu bigger crisis likely
only punjab has criticized outburst so far,
next 48 hrs critical for kse though todays Gora buying
is encouraging :skeptic:.
PPP aik bar phir saisi yateem banein k chakar mein.
PPP ki siasat dufun ho chooki ha
Aur dobara weight gain kanein ki lia nia khail
Aik tair say 3 shikar kanein ki koshish
Laikin shikari is baar khood hi shikar ho jia ga.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on June 18, 2015, 12:46:57 AM
[june 17, 2015, 10:25:36 pm] dehan: os nein aik gernail ko lulkara ha
[june 17, 2015, 10:25:49 pm] dehan: jo k real general ha
[june 17, 2015, 10:26:09 pm] dehan: jis ki koi siasi ya moaashi mofadat nahi
[june 17, 2015, 10:26:14 pm] dehan: like
[june 17, 2015, 10:26:21 pm] dehan: kiani and mushi

sir,
na hee aap ki memory bad haay nor u r bola :tongue:
dharnaay k waqt who encouraged our policemen and defenders
to act as bystanders and shelter mush in Govt owned hospital for weeks:skeptic:
woo b mufadaat ka Game tha :crying_anim02:
Zardari lost his cool and senses yesterday but his question regarding who Rules pakistan unlikely to go away even if he or whole ppp disappears :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on June 18, 2015, 12:54:11 AM
finally JI on Right path :tongue:


http://jang.com.pk/jang/jun2015-daily/17-06-2015/u53145.htm
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Dehan on June 18, 2015, 09:29:58 AM
[june 17, 2015, 10:25:36 pm] dehan: os nein aik gernail ko lulkara ha
[june 17, 2015, 10:25:49 pm] dehan: jo k real general ha
[june 17, 2015, 10:26:09 pm] dehan: jis ki koi siasi ya moaashi mofadat nahi
[june 17, 2015, 10:26:14 pm] dehan: like
[june 17, 2015, 10:26:21 pm] dehan: kiani and mushi

sir,
na hee aap ki memory bad haay nor u r bola :tongue:
dharnaay k waqt who encouraged our policemen and defenders
to act as bystanders and shelter mush in Govt owned hospital for weeks:skeptic:
woo b mufadaat ka Game tha :crying_anim02:
Zardari lost his cool and senses yesterday but his question regarding who Rules pakistan unlikely to go away even if he or whole ppp disappears :rtfm:
Dharna kis nein karvaia wo kirdar sab k samein aa chokay.
On corecommanders/ ISI chief ki retirement k baad dharnein ka kia hova?
All the stage was set to topple the Govt. But it was the General Raheel Sharif who had not joint that party and focused on hi professional commitments.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on June 19, 2015, 04:52:53 AM
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102911806&Issue=NP_KHI&Date=20150619

lagta haay `tinka`is lodged somewhere  :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on June 19, 2015, 04:55:06 AM
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102911808&Issue=NP_KHI&Date=20150619

maay kahoo tu sala character dheela haay-mqm  :( :bigeyed: :@
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on June 20, 2015, 04:32:16 AM
for bay-sharam and bay-hiya kh.asif :laugh:

http://www.express.pk/story/368184/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on June 20, 2015, 03:58:07 PM
for pak Judges :rtfm:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/jodhpur-court-rejects-asaram-s-bail-plea-again/article1-1360872.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SAM71 on June 20, 2015, 10:53:54 PM
[june 17, 2015, 10:25:36 pm] dehan: os nein aik gernail ko lulkara ha
[june 17, 2015, 10:25:49 pm] dehan: jo k real general ha
[june 17, 2015, 10:26:09 pm] dehan: jis ki koi siasi ya moaashi mofadat nahi
[june 17, 2015, 10:26:14 pm] dehan: like
[june 17, 2015, 10:26:21 pm] dehan: kiani and mushi

sir,
na hee aap ki memory bad haay nor u r bola :tongue:
dharnaay k waqt who encouraged our policemen and defenders
to act as bystanders and shelter mush in Govt owned hospital for weeks:skeptic:
woo b mufadaat ka Game tha :crying_anim02:
Zardari lost his cool and senses yesterday but his question regarding who Rules pakistan unlikely to go away even if he or whole ppp disappears :rtfm:
Dharna kis nein karvaia wo kirdar sab k samein aa chokay.
On corecommanders/ ISI chief ki retirement k baad dharnein ka kia hova?
All the stage was set to topple the Govt. But it was the General Raheel Sharif who had not joint that party and focused on hi professional commitments.
No professional commitments. They have gained the space they wanted. They are now almost in control of everything except may be metro and energy sector. Sharifs appear to be contended and happy with whatever is left with them. In fact they are too scared. 

Unfortunately, the pakistani masses (being too naive) and media (being too smart) also declare/consider every sitting DANDA as peer o morshed.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on June 21, 2015, 05:18:34 AM
more hameed Gul Bull shit huhu huhu huhu


http://www.zemtv.com/2015/06/20/92-at-8-muslim-league-n-ka-dur-e-hukumat-gen-hameed-gul-kya-kehtay-hain-20th-june-2015/

bolta haay  73 constitution against Quaid vision hence Burn it :mad:
saath maay praising chinese and want more pak-china cooperation conveniently
IGNORING chinese extremely rough treatment of chinese muslims :skeptic:
Baas Allah ka qanoon laay aaoooo something similar to chinese-1 party rule, crush any opposition like chinese, his words not mine :laugh:
bhai,
aik paper hee publish kaar doo explaining how and why New system will DELIVER in pakland  :s1:
khud b deluded and junta koo b deluded karooooo
may ALLAH protect us from such patriots :(
   
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on June 21, 2015, 06:18:54 AM
worth watching zafar ali shah discomfort :tongue:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/06/21/clean-chit-syed-zafar-ali-shah-exclusive-20th-june-2015/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on June 23, 2015, 06:37:45 AM
saleem safi bola `dont want to say much about Zardari outburst because of risks to my life, faith and patriotism :skeptic: 3 popular cards played against so called anti-state elements since early 50`s :ohmy:
ansar abbasi iss saay ZIADA bool nahi sakta, media feeling insecure after hamid mir/Geo gate  :( waisaay iss forum paar anti Mir/Geo lobby b kaafi period saay silent
haay probably celebrating Geo conversion  :thumbsup_anim: or may b too embarrassed to accept they have been getting it wrong for decades :crying_anim02: 

http://jang.com.pk/jang/jun2015-daily/22-06-2015/col2.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on June 24, 2015, 05:05:09 AM
Qudrat ka insaf or mush mania Action replay  :skeptic:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/06/23/zaid-hamid-ki-jail-main-pitaee/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on June 27, 2015, 06:53:21 PM
once again match is between
Now or never  :tongue:
http://jang.com.pk/jang/jun2015-daily/27-06-2015/col1.html

against
another Bhutto :skeptic:
http://jang.com.pk/jang/jun2015-daily/27-06-2015/index.html

iss baar Bhutto boohat WEAK haay but history maay hamaisha zinda rehnaay k liay bit of Madness b khappay
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on June 27, 2015, 07:12:06 PM
born politician :rtfm:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/jun2015-daily/27-06-2015/u54030.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on June 29, 2015, 09:46:41 PM
No comments  :[
probably best thing to say because poora pakland iss koo Jantaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
haay  :laugh:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/911734/wikileaks-fact-checks-mubasher-lucman-on-twitter/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on June 30, 2015, 12:23:50 AM
in lion`s den :tongue:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/06/30/jirga-on-geo-news-genralrhameed-gul-exclusive-22nd-june-2015/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 01, 2015, 02:52:29 AM
once again match is between
Now or never  :tongue:
http://jang.com.pk/jang/jun2015-daily/27-06-2015/col1.html

against
another Bhutto :skeptic:
http://jang.com.pk/jang/jun2015-daily/27-06-2015/index.html

iss baar Bhutto boohat WEAK haay but history maay hamaisha zinda rehnaay k liay bit of Madness b khappay

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/06/30/10-pm-with-nadia-mirza-dr-tanveer-zamani-exclusive-interview-30th-june-2015/
Not a Good sign :(
is she going to represent zardari in his absence :skeptic:
came across as lightweight in her first interview but focused on lyari,
lagta haay aab ppp koo poor ka blood khappay,
stakes high for AZ, Bilawal , mqm and E  in sindh,
after a very long time, karachi has again become crucial in pak politics ,
unfortunately not a single Credible, untainted heavyweight political figure  visible
in sindh at present hence agar ghareeb ka lahooo bahaaa tu phir waste hoo Ga
may ALLAH protect all helpless souls in pakland

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SBM on July 01, 2015, 03:38:20 AM
once again match is between
Now or never  :tongue:
http://jang.com.pk/jang/jun2015-daily/27-06-2015/col1.html

against
another Bhutto :skeptic:
http://jang.com.pk/jang/jun2015-daily/27-06-2015/index.html

iss baar Bhutto boohat WEAK haay but history maay hamaisha zinda rehnaay k liay bit of Madness b khappay

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/06/30/10-pm-with-nadia-mirza-dr-tanveer-zamani-exclusive-interview-30th-june-2015/
Not a Good sign :(
is she going to represent zardari in his absence :skeptic:
came across as lightweight in her first interview but focused on lyari,
lagta haay aab ppp koo poor ka blood khappay,
stakes high for AZ, Bilawal , mqm and E  in sindh,
after a very long time, karachi has again become crucial in pak politics ,
unfortunately not a single Credible, untainted heavyweight political figure  visible
in sindh at present hence agar ghareeb ka lahooo bahaaa tu phir waste hoo Ga
may ALLAH protect all helpless souls in pakland
http://tribune.com.pk/story/912471/london-police-says-purported-documents-of-mqm-leader-tariq-mirs-confession-are-fake/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Loto or Photo on July 02, 2015, 03:23:49 PM
Thanks for the person who posted this. Listen what they were saying few months back and now what they are saying now regarding 35 puncture

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/02/dr-shahid-masood-dr-arif-alvi-admit-in-live-show-that-they-have-heard-35-punctures-audio-tape/

Fitnoan ka dor hay..........Akhiri zamany main jhot/dhoka bohat ho jaye ga..............shaid dajal kay anay ki teyarian bcz he will also produce deception.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: arifjamal on July 02, 2015, 04:28:41 PM
cement  uuu

http://tribune.com.pk/story/913272/hydroelectric-power-plant-financiers-stop-433m-loan-for-neelum-jhelum-project/
Ganja's focus is on roads only; hell with others sectors; he is least concerned with vital sector like power, gas & water. :thumbsdown_anim:
his begining of speech starts with METRO and also ends with METRO, PM hay ya roadmaster
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Dehan on July 02, 2015, 05:35:59 PM
Thanks for the person who posted this. Listen what they were saying few months back and now what they are saying now regarding 35 puncture

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/02/dr-shahid-masood-dr-arif-alvi-admit-in-live-show-that-they-have-heard-35-punctures-audio-tape/

Fitnoan ka dor hay..........Akhiri zamany main jhot/dhoka bohat ho jaye ga..............shaid dajal kay anay ki teyarian bcz he will also produce deception.
Dr. Shahid Masood baichary say aksar aisa hi hota hay
Shaid hi kabi os ka bian kia gia kissa such nikla ho
Laikin wo baray hi sakoon say nia kissa ghart liata ha.
Bulkul aisay hi jaisay Dharnein k dooran har rooz
Mubashar Lukman aik nai khani gharta tha k aj raat ye hoga
Laikin jab waisa koch nahi hota tha to wo baray aram say
aik aur nai kahani agli raat ki bian karta bina sharmandgi k
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 03, 2015, 04:36:30 AM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/02-07-2015/u54504.htm
Arrest and hang policemen killers (linked to previous Karachi operation)
Parade these callous souls on media
But
Also tell junta about circumstances of kashif death in custody warna Rule of Law truck ki back light hee  rahaay ga. media too scared at present to raise /ask this question
 acknowledge West human rights record within their borders
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on July 03, 2015, 08:16:54 AM
cement  uuu

http://tribune.com.pk/story/913272/hydroelectric-power-plant-financiers-stop-433m-loan-for-neelum-jhelum-project/
Ganja's focus is on roads only; hell with others sectors; he is least concerned with vital sector like power, gas & water. :thumbsdown_anim:
his begining of speech starts with METRO and also ends with METRO, PM hay ya roadmaster

NS is doing good work. We have seen tenure of Army and PPP. What did they do?
Priorities can be different for different people. Vision apna apna. Pak needs infrastructure (Roads, Power generation, power distribution and transmission). Work is being done in every field including health and education but main focus on infrastructure. But you wont see it as you don't want to see it. If I was him, I would do the same.

At least he is far far better than AZ and u-turn Khan who can only talk and abuse but cannot deliver. Kam karte mout parti he.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Capricon83 on July 03, 2015, 08:27:20 AM
cement  uuu

http://tribune.com.pk/story/913272/hydroelectric-power-plant-financiers-stop-433m-loan-for-neelum-jhelum-project/
Ganja's focus is on roads only; hell with others sectors; he is least concerned with vital sector like power, gas & water. :thumbsdown_anim:
his begining of speech starts with METRO and also ends with METRO, PM hay ya roadmaster

NS is doing good work. We have seen tenure of Army and PPP. What did they do?
Priorities can be different for different people. Vision apna apna. Pak needs infrastructure (Roads, Power generation, power distribution and transmission). Work is being done in every field including health and education but main focus on infrastructure. But you wont see it as you don't want to see it. If I was him, I would do the same.

At least he is far far better than AZ and u-turn Khan who can only talk and abuse but cannot deliver. Kam karte mout parti he.

Aik mut-ma-in Patwari wali logic di hai bhai aap ne  :tongue:

"Pak needs infrastructure (Roads, Power generation, power distribution and transmission)"
From your own priorities how much extra Power Generated or Distribution and Transmission system upgraded in last 2 years???

Yehi to sab keh rahay hain k why sirf Roads and wo bhi elevated roads especially?? Kuch to personal interest hay bhai  :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Abrar_company on July 03, 2015, 08:52:02 AM
cement  uuu

http://tribune.com.pk/story/913272/hydroelectric-power-plant-financiers-stop-433m-loan-for-neelum-jhelum-project/
Ganja's focus is on roads only; hell with others sectors; he is least concerned with vital sector like power, gas & water. :thumbsdown_anim:
his begining of speech starts with METRO and also ends with METRO, PM hay ya roadmaster

NS is doing good work. We have seen tenure of Army and PPP. What did they do?
Priorities can be different for different people. Vision apna apna. Pak needs infrastructure (Roads, Power generation, power distribution and transmission). Work is being done in every field including health and education but main focus on infrastructure. But you wont see it as you don't want to see it. If I was him, I would do the same.

At least he is far far better than AZ and u-turn Khan who can only talk and abuse but cannot deliver. Kam karte mout parti he.

Aik mut-ma-in Patwari wali logic di hai bhai aap ne  :tongue:

"Pak needs infrastructure (Roads, Power generation, power distribution and transmission)"
From your own priorities how much extra Power Generated or Distribution and Transmission system upgraded in last 2 years???

Yehi to sab keh rahay hain k why sirf Roads and wo bhi elevated roads especially?? Kuch to personal interest hay bhai  :skeptic:

Yes I agree with the comments. Give NS another 10 years to complete power projects motorways and infrastructure. You will see the boom in economy.
It is not simple that we can do it in few months time. It takes years and decades to complete such mega achievement.

So it is my humble request to give NS another 10 years and you will see future will be bright for Pakistan. We are as a nation one Pakistani instead of Sunni, Shia, Muhajir, Sindi, Punjabi, Hindu or else. Please forget NS where he belongs to, just think that what he is trying to do. Please support him, he is truly Pakistani.

If you build a simple home of 250 yards which takes almost an year and why don't you understand its a 20 million country.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: aftab ahmed on July 03, 2015, 09:55:40 AM
also free hand wlth pece
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 03, 2015, 12:16:40 PM
For progress & prosperity; we need PEACE, POWER (ENERGY);JUSTICE;WATER, EDUCATION,HEALTH;
Ghanja is giving you ROADS only. Where are other sectors?
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: ali62 on July 03, 2015, 12:44:07 PM
B4 ganjas previous govts were not even giving us roads also, all was going in some people pockets. Now atleast we wud have roads. Like after mustafa kamal all is going in some peoples pocket in karachi.

And i hope that  this will be our  start of journey on roads of success  towards progress & prosperity; PEACE, POWER (ENERGY);JUSTICE;WATER, EDUCATION,HEALTH;  IA.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: invictus on July 03, 2015, 12:52:29 PM
ali62 bhai i agree
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: arifjamal on July 03, 2015, 02:02:01 PM
For progress & prosperity; we need PEACE, POWER (ENERGY);JUSTICE;WATER, EDUCATION,HEALTH;
Ghanja is giving you ROADS only. Where are other sectors?
agreed bro with you
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 03, 2015, 02:08:20 PM
B4 ganjas previous govts were not even giving us roads also, all was going in some people pockets. Now atleast we wud have roads. Like after mustafa kamal all is going in some peoples pocket in karachi.

And i hope that  this will be our  start of journey on roads of success  towards progress & prosperity; PEACE, POWER (ENERGY);JUSTICE;WATER, EDUCATION,HEALTH;  IA.
Say you as an individual have Rs. 3.00M cash generated from all sources including loans;your revenue cash generation is in deficit.
You invest all resources in buying a car; where do you stand? This is what our rulers do.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 03, 2015, 02:26:23 PM
B4 ganjas previous govts were not even giving us roads also, all was going in some people pockets. Now atleast we wud have roads. Like after mustafa kamal all is going in some peoples pocket in karachi.

And i hope that  this will be our  start of journey on roads of success  towards progress & prosperity; PEACE, POWER (ENERGY);JUSTICE;WATER, EDUCATION,HEALTH;  IA.
Say you as an individual have Rs. 3.00M cash generated from all sources including loans;your revenue cash generation is in deficit.
You invest all resources in buying a car; where do you stand? This is what our rulers do.

u know babu is no OWL :tongue:
tax revenue has gone into third Gear this year, 5th will b unrealistic,
agar 3 b maintain kaar lia tu second term pakki haay though
3.5 ka bright chance haay agar invisible hand Dar koo smoothly kaam
karnaay daay :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: invictus on July 03, 2015, 02:28:05 PM
roads are priority because huge money in rulers pocket.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: sameel on July 03, 2015, 02:51:30 PM
bhai the money alone on metro project could have completed 10 other useful projects.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: ali62 on July 03, 2015, 03:27:50 PM
Sameel bhai

Agreed with you but  my point is, in sindh, baluchistan and kpk no metro,  but also no 10 other useful projects. So if position is like this, why to stop/criticise somebody to atleast doing something. Even they r doing it for their comms, in other provinces/prev govts they were eating all 100% including comms. 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 03, 2015, 07:28:58 PM
Quote from: invictus link=topic=65.msg21 5038#msg215038 date=1435915685
roads are priority because huge money in rulers pocket.
Comm. & kickback rate in NHA which is under NS is around 30~35%. Corruption in provincial projects is astronomical. The main point is that making justice available will root out most evils & nation would rise up & it needs administrative actions only. Think about it why our rulers don't provide justice which can give them eternal fame & popularity.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on July 03, 2015, 11:51:30 PM
This is not a political forum so I will not continue this discussion. But what I know, work in progress in all Power sector, Generation, transmission and distribution. These projects take time to complete. We have already witnessed reduction in Load Shedding and it will end by 2018. Power theft is a major problem and with installation of GSM meters it will be brought down to acceptable limits. Hydel power is not an urgent priority as it takes at least 10 years to complete but work initiated there too. Industry is booming due to friendly policies.

Infrastructure is required to grow business which generates income. Without income you cannot spend on health and education. Reforms are also required and slowly being implemented. In Punjab most of land record is computerised which has reduced corruption. Police reforms also being introduced and recently I had very pleasant experience when I needed Police Report for a Visa which was granted in one day without any bribe and also I got very respectable treatment at DPO office and Police station. New hospitals, medical colleges, universities are being setup (atleast in Punjab by Provincial Government).

I am confident that if boot wala don't interfere, next election will be won by PMLN by a wide margin on the basis of performance. They have the capacity to deliver and they are doing it with what resources are available. With limited resources available, you have to manage and prioritize development work. And these priorities may not necessarily match with your priorities.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jaz on July 04, 2015, 02:43:52 AM
This is not a political forum so I will not continue this discussion. But what I know, work in progress in all Power sector, Generation, transmission and distribution. These projects take time to complete. We have already witnessed reduction in Load Shedding and it will end by 2018. Power theft is a major problem and with installation of GSM meters it will be brought down to acceptable limits. Hydel power is not an urgent priority as it takes at least 10 years to complete but work initiated there too. Industry is booming due to friendly policies.

Infrastructure is required to grow business which generates income. Without income you cannot spend on health and education. Reforms are also required and slowly being implemented. In Punjab most of land record is computerised which has reduced corruption. Police reforms also being introduced and recently I had very pleasant experience when I needed Police Report for a Visa which was granted in one day without any bribe and also I got very respectable treatment at DPO office and Police station. New hospitals, medical colleges, universities are being setup (atleast in Punjab by Provincial Government).

I am confident that if boot wala don't interfere, next election will be won by PMLN by a wide margin on the basis of performance. They have the capacity to deliver and they are doing it with what resources are available. With limited resources available, you have to manage and prioritize development work. And these priorities may not necessarily match with your priorities.
How confident. Please tell us also, how much loan we have already taken from international lenders and where has that money gone. We may land ourselves in greek boots if we don't stop this madness (Mr Ishaq Dar aka munshi) who previously confessed that he was involved in money laundering. Zardari Nawaz nexus has already brought us on the verge of destruction. Colleges and universities in punjab you say, go and see the condition of primary schools and that may open up your eyes. Poor is getting poorer, people are finding it increasingly difficult to make the ends meet. Where is progress and growth if people are dying due to hunger. Go and visit slums and places where poor live and that may change your perception. In air-conditioned drawing rooms and the world of internet, everything seems rosy of course. And those boot walas are the only people, nation is willing to trust right now.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 04, 2015, 03:04:33 AM
This is not a political forum so I will not continue this discussion. But what I know, work in progress in all Power sector, Generation, transmission and distribution. These projects take time to complete. We have already witnessed reduction in Load Shedding and it will end by 2018. Power theft is a major problem and with installation of GSM meters it will be brought down to acceptable limits. Hydel power is not an urgent priority as it takes at least 10 years to complete but work initiated there too. Industry is booming due to friendly policies.

Infrastructure is required to grow business which generates income. Without income you cannot spend on health and education. Reforms are also required and slowly being implemented. In Punjab most of land record is computerised which has reduced corruption. Police reforms also being introduced and recently I had very pleasant experience when I needed Police Report for a Visa which was granted in one day without any bribe and also I got very respectable treatment at DPO office and Police station. New hospitals, medical colleges, universities are being setup (atleast in Punjab by Provincial Government).

I am confident that if boot wala don't interfere, next election will be won by PMLN by a wide margin on the basis of performance. They have the capacity to deliver and they are doing it with what resources are available. With limited resources available, you have to manage and prioritize development work. And these priorities may not necessarily match with your priorities.
How confident. Please tell us also, how much loan we have already taken from international lenders and where has that money gone. We may land ourselves in greek boots if we don't stop this madness (Mr Ishaq Dar aka munshi) who previously confessed that he was involved in money laundering. Zardari Nawaz nexus has already brought us on the verge of destruction. Colleges and universities in punjab you say, go and see the condition of primary schools and that may open up your eyes. Poor is getting poorer, people are finding it increasingly difficult to make the ends meet. Where is progress and growth if people are dying due to hunger. Go and visit slums and places where poor live and that may change your perception. In air-conditioned drawing rooms and the world of internet, everything seems rosy of course. And those boot walas are the only people, nation is willing to trust right now.
Zaid hamid yaad aa giya :(
those boot walas are the only people, nation is willing to trust right now.
Evidence pl with figures  :thanks:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jaz on July 04, 2015, 03:24:40 AM
This is not a political forum so I will not continue this discussion. But what I know, work in progress in all Power sector, Generation, transmission and distribution. These projects take time to complete. We have already witnessed reduction in Load Shedding and it will end by 2018. Power theft is a major problem and with installation of GSM meters it will be brought down to acceptable limits. Hydel power is not an urgent priority as it takes at least 10 years to complete but work initiated there too. Industry is booming due to friendly policies.

Infrastructure is required to grow business which generates income. Without income you cannot spend on health and education. Reforms are also required and slowly being implemented. In Punjab most of land record is computerised which has reduced corruption. Police reforms also being introduced and recently I had very pleasant experience when I needed Police Report for a Visa which was granted in one day without any bribe and also I got very respectable treatment at DPO office and Police station. New hospitals, medical colleges, universities are being setup (atleast in Punjab by Provincial Government).

I am confident that if boot wala don't interfere, next election will be won by PMLN by a wide margin on the basis of performance. They have the capacity to deliver and they are doing it with what resources are available. With limited resources available, you have to manage and prioritize development work. And these priorities may not necessarily match with your priorities.
How confident. Please tell us also, how much loan we have already taken from international lenders and where has that money gone. We may land ourselves in greek boots if we don't stop this madness (Mr Ishaq Dar aka munshi) who previously confessed that he was involved in money laundering. Zardari Nawaz nexus has already brought us on the verge of destruction. Colleges and universities in punjab you say, go and see the condition of primary schools and that may open up your eyes. Poor is getting poorer, people are finding it increasingly difficult to make the ends meet. Where is progress and growth if people are dying due to hunger. Go and visit slums and places where poor live and that may change your perception. In air-conditioned drawing rooms and the world of internet, everything seems rosy of course. And those boot walas are the only people, nation is willing to trust right now.
Zaid hamid yaad aa giya :(
those boot walas are the only people, nation is willing to trust right now.
Evidence pl with figures  :thanks:
You cannot grasp it while sitting in London  :D. As i said, in air-conditioned drawing rooms things look pretty rosy
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SAM71 on July 04, 2015, 05:23:53 AM
Sorry jaz. Boot walas have brought us to a stage that we are deemed a failed state. So no more danda peer, please.....
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Loto or Photo on July 04, 2015, 06:00:23 AM
ye hay neya Pakistan for those who are in support of Imran khan.............main to waisay hi sari siasi jamaton say bezar hn...........

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/04/pehle-kisi-ki-maa-behn-kar-do-phir-kaho-ke-hum-bhi-siasatdan-hain-najam-sethi-lashes-out-imran-khan/

actually pora program hi diakhnay wala hay.....EXCELLENT PROGRAM worth to watch........... PLEASE MUST WATCH........... for those who blindly supporting Imran khan.

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/03/aapas-ki-baat-35-puncture-ke-jhoot-ka-bhanda-khood-imran-khan-ne-hi-phor-dia-3rd-july-2015/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on July 04, 2015, 08:28:01 AM
This is not a Political forum as I already said. Somebody start a new thread where we can discuss Politics openly.

Patience is the key to success in Stocks. Same is true for Politics. Those calling boots are actually those who have lost patience. I have firm believe in democracy even before I had a vote.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 04, 2015, 08:48:46 AM
Zamani zardari has failed to impress Pakistan because she is  living in late 70's and 80's :thumbsdown_anim:
Pakistanis r now in tune with 2015 -IT era, they like to hear arguments and analyze issues before agreeing to anything, junta no longer interested in street agitation but jaha vote power dikhana hota haay dikha-tee haay , their silence / disengagement can no longer b used as Razamandi of silent majority classic eg mush disastrous return to pakistan /no street /media protest from Zahid hamid fans/recent karachi election / Punjab by-elections  supporting NS victory  in last general election as genuine etc etc bring khakis if u got genuine majority support ,aab zia/mush wala Refrendum total waste of time and money


http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/04-07-2015/col4.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Loto or Photo on July 04, 2015, 09:49:55 AM
No one can stop tear/crying after reading this article..............bhio hum kia ker rehay hain........ jis tree ki chaon talay a kr bethay thay...... osi ko kat rehay hain. how we will face on the day of judgment to those young girls/wifes mentioned in this article.

http://e.dunya.com.pk/colum.php?date=2015-07-04&edition=LHR&id=53840_37970303
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jaz on July 04, 2015, 02:57:28 PM
Unfortunately  people can't eat democracy. They need real food to satisfy tummies. What happened in thar where scores died due to hunger. Who is responsible for that. Over 200 people burnt alive in Kci.  But democracy khappay. Wah re blind followers
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: BullsBears on July 04, 2015, 03:10:36 PM
This nation has become fearless. I saw people eating more openly in ramazan this year then ever before. My mind and heart shakes in fear when i think about the night in grave. I will be forced towards my grave leaving behind all that i jave accumulated in this  fake dunya. Our greed for the world and lack of fear of accountability in the hereafter is taking us towards the destruction in all fronts. Just look around yourself in the society and you will be disgusted to be born a Pakistani.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SAM71 on July 04, 2015, 03:28:22 PM
Unfortunately  people can't eat democracy. They need real food to satisfy tummies. What happened in thar where scores died due to hunger. Who is responsible for that. Over 200 people burnt alive in Kci.  But democracy khappay. Wah re blind followers

But jaz bro, "DANDA PEER" only suits donkeys.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: HAMDANI_Punjtani on July 04, 2015, 03:33:39 PM
Unfortunately  people can't eat democracy. They need real food to satisfy tummies. What happened in thar where scores died due to hunger. Who is responsible for that. Over 200 people burnt alive in Kci.  But democracy khappay. Wah re blind followers

But jaz bro, "DANDA PEER" only suits donkeys.

 :good
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jaz on July 04, 2015, 04:13:30 PM
Unfortunately  people can't eat democracy. They need real food to satisfy tummies. What happened in thar where scores died due to hunger. Who is responsible for that. Over 200 people burnt alive in Kci.  But democracy khappay. Wah re blind followers

But jaz bro, "DANDA PEER" only suits donkeys.
exactly bro. Humans went to extinction long ago in Pakistan.  Danda peer badly required  :laugh:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 04, 2015, 04:18:26 PM
This nation has become fearless. I saw people eating more openly in ramazan this year then ever before. My mind and heart shakes in fear when i think about the night in grave. I will be forced towards my grave leaving behind all that i jave accumulated in this  fake dunya. Our greed for the world and lack of fear of accountability in the hereafter is taking us towards the destruction in all fronts. Just look around yourself in the society and you will be disgusted to be born a Pakistani.

Bro,
religion, faith and its impact on nation destiny is very complex and comprehensive
subject worth atleast a PHD :skeptic:,
we all love simple solutions but pakistain history is far far more complex
even before it was born, baas iss saay agaay not qualified to comment on this topic :(
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: invictus on July 04, 2015, 05:14:09 PM
@bullsbears you are right also democracy never existed in pakistan and will never exist until we as a nation change .
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Alpha on July 04, 2015, 05:23:28 PM
Unfortunately  people can't eat democracy. They need real food to satisfy tummies. What happened in thar where scores died due to hunger. Who is responsible for that. Over 200 people burnt alive in Kci.  But democracy khappay. Wah re blind followers

But jaz bro, "DANDA PEER" only suits donkeys.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: ali62 on July 04, 2015, 05:33:59 PM
Unfortunately  people can't eat democracy. They need real food to satisfy tummies. What happened in thar where scores died due to hunger. Who is responsible for that. Over 200 people burnt alive in Kci.  But democracy khappay. Wah re blind followers

But jaz bro, "DANDA PEER" only suits donkeys.
exactly bro. Humans went to extinction long ago in Pakistan.  Danda peer badly required  :laugh:

But half of time of our history there were danda peers ruling country, why they didnt change the situation, why they even ruined the it. Its not a problem of danda peer/democracy but kharabi  is in our  minds, corruption is now our culture. Everyone who has a chance is looting others, no matter he is from which part of life.
In my flat the lights  of zeena in which our union incharge lives works till midnight and others zeenas lights are shut at 9 pm. So whoever and where ever have  a chance, doing corruption as per his  capacity. From peon to president including all khakis or white.
Nobody can change us, except we change ourselves.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: invictus on July 04, 2015, 05:45:11 PM
ali62 you are right nation has to change! true democracy will take long long time to come to pakistan!
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: HAMDANI_Punjtani on July 04, 2015, 05:47:56 PM
We are a great nation.......no need to be apologetic or cynical.....Pakistan Zindabad....Pakistani log zindabad
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: invictus on July 04, 2015, 05:55:17 PM
hamdani bhai no doubt we are great nation but we lack great leaders.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SAM71 on July 04, 2015, 07:02:38 PM
Unfortunately  people can't eat democracy. They need real food to satisfy tummies. What happened in thar where scores died due to hunger. Who is responsible for that. Over 200 people burnt alive in Kci.  But democracy khappay. Wah re blind followers

But jaz bro, "DANDA PEER" only suits donkeys.
exactly bro. Humans went to extinction long ago in Pakistan.  Danda peer badly required  :laugh:

I still consider myself human. Can't say about u.  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SAM71 on July 04, 2015, 07:05:43 PM
Unfortunately  people can't eat democracy. They need real food to satisfy tummies. What happened in thar where scores died due to hunger. Who is responsible for that. Over 200 people burnt alive in Kci.  But democracy khappay. Wah re blind followers

But jaz bro, "DANDA PEER" only suits donkeys.
exactly bro. Humans went to extinction long ago in Pakistan.  Danda peer badly required  :laugh:

But half of time of our history there were danda peers ruling country, why they didnt change the situation, why they even ruined the it. Its not a problem of danda peer/democracy but kharabi  is in our  minds, corruption is now our culture. Everyone who has a chance is looting others, no matter he is from which part of life.
In my flat the lights  of zeena in which our union incharge lives works till midnight and others zeenas lights are shut at 9 pm. So whoever and where ever have  a chance, doing corruption as per his  capacity. From peon to president including all khakis or white.
Nobody can change us, except we change ourselves.


Fully agree with text in bold.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jaz on July 04, 2015, 07:12:23 PM
Unfortunately  people can't eat democracy. They need real food to satisfy tummies. What happened in thar where scores died due to hunger. Who is responsible for that. Over 200 people burnt alive in Kci.  But democracy khappay. Wah re blind followers

But jaz bro, "DANDA PEER" only suits donkeys.
exactly bro. Humans went to extinction long ago in Pakistan.  Danda peer badly required  :laugh:

I still consider myself human. Can't say about u.  :laugh: :laugh:
Unfortunately, this is not the way humans communicate with each other
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SAM71 on July 04, 2015, 07:26:24 PM
Unfortunately  people can't eat democracy. They need real food to satisfy tummies. What happened in thar where scores died due to hunger. Who is responsible for that. Over 200 people burnt alive in Kci.  But democracy khappay. Wah re blind followers

But jaz bro, "DANDA PEER" only suits donkeys.
exactly bro. Humans went to extinction long ago in Pakistan.  Danda peer badly required  :laugh:

I still consider myself human. Can't say about u.  :laugh: :laugh:
Unfortunately, this is not the way humans communicate with each other
Sorry that u didn't appreciate my sense of humor. Anyway, I fully respect ur choice to be ruled and guided by danda. But based on Pakistan's 68 years history I  think that I, my children and the people of Pakistan deserve a better dispensation. Remember, majority of the ills that we currently face today are the legacy of "danda peer".
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: invictus on July 04, 2015, 07:27:38 PM
@jaz good lol.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: sameel on July 04, 2015, 08:20:34 PM
whats wrong with danda pir ? they are perfect...
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 05, 2015, 03:17:14 AM
History Records everything :laugh:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/05/clean-chit-syed-abida-hussain-exclusive-4th-july-2015/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: zakhan76 on July 05, 2015, 04:46:14 AM
http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/international/middle_east/2015/07/draft_accords_of_sanctions_relief_at_iran_nuke_talks

If this deal is sealed peacefully then oil will be down again...and several sectors like cement, glass, chemicals will benefit...
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on July 05, 2015, 06:36:59 AM
whats wrong with danda pir ? they are perfect...


They might be slightly better than other institutions as they as an institution have a history far beyond creation of Pakistan. However they are from the same corrupt society and equally corrupt. Only no one dare to publish stories of their corruption. If someone does, he may also be a "Missing Person" soon. I have heard stories of corruption first hand i.e. from those who paid commission. NDMA is an example where after earthquake people were dying of cold and someone was busy collecting commission on purchase of tents and other utilities. very heartless.

In UK it took 500 years after Magna Carta to reach to this level of democracy. US had to fight 100 years of civil war before reaching complete democracy. Here our friends get impatient after 5 years and start calling boots for rescue and nation again back to square one. Meanwhile the corrupt politician become mazloom. People forget their sins and after end of military rule again select those people. That is why Bhutto abhi tak zinda hey. Election is a strainer (Filter) and if process continues we will Insha Allah get much better lawmakers after few elections.

The corruption is also linked with poverty. Poor can be easily tempted to corruption because of pressing genuine needs. Once country gets better economically, corruption at all levels will reduce. It cannot be eliminated with danda alone. My opinion.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on July 05, 2015, 06:55:11 AM
Those comparing Pakistan with Greece must check Debt to GDP ratio of two countries. Alhamdulillah we are far far better than Greece. China, Malaysia, South Korea are examples of countries who prospered by getting loans. They used loaned money to develop their infrastructure and industry and now they have not only paid their debt but are also very rich. If the loans are used properly in projects which generate income, loans are good and there is no harm in borrowing.
CPEC is a lifetime opportunity for Pakistan. I am sure it will bring prosperity. But some people are opposing it due to regional politics. We must rise above these differences and support this.

We do not need enemies. We are our own enemy. We jeopardized Kalabagh Dam, and now some among us want to do same to CPEC. If they succeed it will be equivalent to suicide for this nation. All dreams of prosperity will die.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SBM on July 05, 2015, 08:15:59 AM
whats wrong with danda pir ? they are perfect...


They might be slightly better than other institutions as they as an institution have a history far beyond creation of Pakistan. However they are from the same corrupt society and equally corrupt. Only no one dare to publish stories of their corruption. If someone does, he may also be a "Missing Person" soon. I have heard stories of corruption first hand i.e. from those who paid commission. NDMA is an example where after earthquake people were dying of cold and someone was busy collecting commission on purchase of tents and other utilities. very heartless.

In UK it took 500 years after Magna Carta to reach to this level of democracy. US had to fight 100 years of civil war before reaching complete democracy. Here our friends get impatient after 5 years and start calling boots for rescue and nation again back to square one. Meanwhile the corrupt politician become mazloom. People forget their sins and after end of military rule again select those people. That is why Bhutto abhi tak zinda hey. Election is a strainer (Filter) and if process continues we will Insha Allah get much better lawmakers after few elections.

The corruption is also linked with poverty. Poor can be easily tempted to corruption because of pressing genuine needs. Once country gets better economically, corruption at all levels will reduce. It cannot be eliminated with danda alone. My opinion.

that is a very questionable statement you make, poor people are more corrupt
Just because someone doesnt have the means doesnt mean they make unethical decisions
And decisions made to fill ones tummy arent exactly corruption ..

The real corruption is in this country is done by the rich not by the poor
It happens because of lack of accountability, because institutions have not been allowed to survive much less prosper
As it is, ours & our neighbours culture has a thing for personalities over institutions, and countless military coups and foreign interference ( in form of supporting certain politicians/regimes) plus explosive increase in population has made them totally useless.

Yes we are a poor country. And maybe our law enforcement agencies & courts dont hve the resources to investigate crime etc.
But its the rich, land owning   (http://www.dawn.com/news/1191761/sindh-govt-allotted-44000-acres-of-land-to-bahria-town-rangers) class,
people that have monopolies over resources  (http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2015/05/18/national/anwar-majeed-granted-lions-share-in-sindh-development-funds/) that f**k the rest of the nation

And yeah there is plenty of corruption in defense deals, in operation of AWT (http://www.dawn.com/news/858004/sc-orders-makro-to-vacate-playground)  & FF (where else in the world do you get tax holidays announced in budget targeted to help just one company), in MEOs (try transferring lease in a hurry, dekho kiya "commission" mangtay hain agents(more often then not ex-military)  to get your file ahead of others)

If we get some stability in our systems, governance should improve. Civil society & middle class have to play their roles in policing the elected officials.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: value786 on July 05, 2015, 10:25:55 AM
Judicial Commission Report  :tongue:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: invictus on July 05, 2015, 01:53:55 PM
sbm: agreed and atleast 70-80 percent people must be middle income for better .
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 05, 2015, 04:27:09 PM
good
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jaz on July 05, 2015, 04:48:20 PM
For revolutionaries sitting outside pakistan. Indeed history records everything  :tongue: A balanced analysis
http://tribune.com.pk/story/914908/eyes-wide-shut/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on July 05, 2015, 11:48:51 PM
whats wrong with danda pir ? they are perfect...


They might be slightly better than other institutions as they as an institution have a history far beyond creation of Pakistan. However they are from the same corrupt society and equally corrupt. Only no one dare to publish stories of their corruption. If someone does, he may also be a "Missing Person" soon. I have heard stories of corruption first hand i.e. from those who paid commission. NDMA is an example where after earthquake people were dying of cold and someone was busy collecting commission on purchase of tents and other utilities. very heartless.

In UK it took 500 years after Magna Carta to reach to this level of democracy. US had to fight 100 years of civil war before reaching complete democracy. Here our friends get impatient after 5 years and start calling boots for rescue and nation again back to square one. Meanwhile the corrupt politician become mazloom. People forget their sins and after end of military rule again select those people. That is why Bhutto abhi tak zinda hey. Election is a strainer (Filter) and if process continues we will Insha Allah get much better lawmakers after few elections.

The corruption is also linked with poverty. Poor can be easily tempted to corruption because of pressing genuine needs. Once country gets better economically, corruption at all levels will reduce. It cannot be eliminated with danda alone. My opinion.

that is a very questionable statement you make, poor people are more corrupt
Just because someone doesnt have the means doesnt mean they make unethical decisions
And decisions made to fill ones tummy arent exactly corruption ..

The real corruption is in this country is done by the rich not by the poor
It happens because of lack of accountability, because institutions have not been allowed to survive much less prosper
As it is, ours & our neighbours culture has a thing for personalities over institutions, and countless military coups and foreign interference ( in form of supporting certain politicians/regimes) plus explosive increase in population has made them totally useless.

Yes we are a poor country. And maybe our law enforcement agencies & courts dont hve the resources to investigate crime etc.
But its the rich, land owning   (http://www.dawn.com/news/1191761/sindh-govt-allotted-44000-acres-of-land-to-bahria-town-rangers) class,
people that have monopolies over resources  (http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2015/05/18/national/anwar-majeed-granted-lions-share-in-sindh-development-funds/) that f**k the rest of the nation

And yeah there is plenty of corruption in defense deals, in operation of AWT (http://www.dawn.com/news/858004/sc-orders-makro-to-vacate-playground)  & FF (where else in the world do you get tax holidays announced in budget targeted to help just one company), in MEOs (try transferring lease in a hurry, dekho kiya "commission" mangtay hain agents(more often then not ex-military)  to get your file ahead of others)

If we get some stability in our systems, governance should improve. Civil society & middle class have to play their roles in policing the elected officials.

I did not mean all poor are corrupt. absolutely not. Just pointing out temptation. Many civil servants are honest in the beginning, but start corruption later in life.

Agree to your analysis about accountability. Corruption is every where even in western countries which we take as ideal. It is accountability that prevents corruption.

In Pakistan we have corruption at all levels. From a fruit merchant rehri wala to PM, majority are corrupt as per their capacity. I have seen very honest people (Other than one or two occasions) resort to corruption for the education or career of their children. In fact our society has become rotten. The social values have changed. The rich gets more respect without question from where did they get it. Bribe is demanded openly in front of public without any fear of accountability.

I was recently part of a deal of my company with MEPCO where we paid bribe in the name of exgracia to an SE who said this can be done in 3 hours or 3 years. Choice is yours. And we did not have an option.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: invictus on July 06, 2015, 01:01:10 AM
one big problem in pakistan is rich are mostly jahil, educated are mostly middle class. opposite of u.s.a and europe.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SBM on July 06, 2015, 02:16:49 AM
yeah @IQ  ... ppl dont even consider it bribe .. its considered commission or just of doing business.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 07, 2015, 06:00:38 PM
Worth a glance, got a different feel
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9-327657-Documents-and-priorities
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 08, 2015, 03:42:46 AM
Gene aik haay or system same haay :skeptic:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/dozens-of-politicians-bureaucrats-and-businessmen-linked-to-indian-bribery-scandal-die-mysteriously-10373435.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 08, 2015, 05:43:11 AM
Ghanja's priority is Metro & Motorways; let the public die confronting weather :
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102948180&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20150708 :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 08, 2015, 05:56:01 AM
Ghanja's priority is Metro & Motorways; let the public die confronting weather :
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102948180&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20150708 :skeptic:

Bilawal tu bola `Democracy is the best revenge` uuu

Electricity bill will go up by 60%  when new residential electricity tariff rates are applied :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 08, 2015, 10:00:24 AM
Ghanja's priority is Metro & Motorways; let the public die confronting weather :
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102948180&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20150708 :skeptic:

Bilawal tu bola `Democracy is the best revenge` uuu

Electricity bill will go up by 60%  when new residential electricity tariff rates are applied :rtfm:
Pak can rise only if all living politicians are boarded a ship to Pacific & then nuke/torpedo it; this should be the softest revenge of public.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on July 09, 2015, 01:28:32 AM
Weather and natural calamities are beyond human control. Even in USA people die due to extreme weather.

If the system continues, we will get better politicians. They are needed to run the system. If it were not so why Zia and Musharraf turned to politicians to run the government? Also half the time military was ruling. And in remaining time also they were actually pulling the strings. Think again who is more responsible for current disorder. Additionally there is no proper audit of accounts for services. Our tax money is used to destabilize democracy. Saadi jutti te sada hi sir.

Still people blame politicians and democracy. Let it grow and mature. After a few elections things will be better. Much better.

But we are using special glasses (PTI Glasses) which only shows bad things. They find error in all good efforts. Example is Metro. Motorways.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on July 09, 2015, 01:38:47 AM
In Denmark sitting in local train I thought will we ever have something like this in Pakistan? I believed we never will at least for 50 years. But we now have metro. For me it is a symbol. I don't use it. I have cars. But I remember the pain and insult of riding in Lahore van, bending like a Murgha. Have you ever felt that pain? That insult? At least some people (Not all) get a respectable mode of daily commutation.

My company driver told me, he used to come to office on motorbike. More than 1 litre petrol every day. Face and clothes get dirty on the way to office. Now he uses metro and literally prayed for success, long life and health of Shahbaz Sharif. This is gold for some people wo use it for daily commutation.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 09, 2015, 03:06:33 PM
In Denmark sitting in local train I thought will we ever have something like this in Pakistan? I believed we never will at least for 50 years. But we now have metro. For me it is a symbol. I don't use it. I have cars. But I remember the pain and insult of riding in Lahore van, bending like a Murgha. Have you ever felt that pain? That insult? At least some people (Not all) get a respectable mode of daily commutation.

My company driver told me, he used to come to office on motorbike. More than 1 litre petrol every day. Face and clothes get dirty on the way to office. Now he uses metro and literally prayed for success, long life and health of Shahbaz Sharif. This is gold for some people wo use it for daily commutation.
Facility for a little segment of huge mass of suffering humans is meaningless. Just think productivity of the funds if it were  invested in Kalabag Dam or Railways. :dunno:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 09, 2015, 07:31:52 PM
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/09/a-real-leader-imran-khan-praising-nab-on-arresting-pti-minister-zia-ullah/

Right move for both PTI and Pakistan :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 10, 2015, 11:36:45 AM
Justice is delivered if it could be visible. Real justice would prevail when powerful culprits of our country will be punished. Tiny drop of crime has grown into a mighty flash flood which has engulfed every aspect of our lives. Pakistan has now a huge crowd of terrorists in economic, religious & social sectors. We wish full scale war is launched against whole set of terrorists & Pakistan is cleansed of serious ailments which have crippled the nation.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 11, 2015, 12:36:08 AM
Justice is delivered if it could be visible. Real justice would prevail when powerful culprits of our country will be punished. Tiny drop of crime has grown into a mighty flash flood which has engulfed every aspect of our lives. Pakistan has now a huge crowd of terrorists in economic, religious & social sectors. We wish full scale war is launched against whole set of terrorists & Pakistan is cleansed of serious ailments which have crippled the nation.
America got powerful Gun lobby, boohat innocents dead but abhi taak kuch nahi huwa,
similarly developed countries with credible judiciary waha b justice is sometime delayed or
controversial decisions come in view of national interest,
black and white solutions r always popular because they r simple to follow but  both life and world just too complex hence Grey remains unavoidable reality  :skeptic:
Pak E is realising same ONCE again in Sindh :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 11, 2015, 04:17:39 AM
the art of manipulating facts :skeptic:
saab kuch jaanta haay, agree karta haay but
conclusion as always SAME i.e blame PPP for every single
disaster this country has faced since its birth :tongue:
z.A.Suleri deceased,
Abdul qadir hasan remains E fan though no longer taken seriously ,
mujeed ur Shami now Semi-Reformed
while Altaf hussain Qureshi  still selling same over simplistic solutions
but with bit of Turka :laugh:
just like Sh.Rashid ahmed of Rawalpindi
may ALLAH protect pakland from such PATRIOTS :rtfm:
samhajdar dushman less harmful than  nadan doost? agree 110%


http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/10-07-2015/col1.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 11, 2015, 12:58:42 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/11-07-2015/col2.htm
Pragmatic and neutral   ;)



Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SAM71 on July 11, 2015, 02:02:49 PM
the art of manipulating facts :skeptic:
saab kuch jaanta haay, agree karta haay but
conclusion as always SAME i.e blame PPP for every single
disaster this country has faced since its birth :tongue:
z.A.Suleri deceased,
Abdul qadir hasan remains E fan though no longer taken seriously ,
mujeed ur Shami now Semi-Reformed
while Altaf hussain Qureshi  still selling same over simplistic solutions
but with bit of Turka :laugh:
just like Sh.Rashid ahmed of Rawalpindi
may ALLAH protect pakland from such PATRIOTS :rtfm:
samhajdar dushman less harmful than  nadan doost? agree 110%

http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/10-07-2015/col1.html

I fully agree with above observations
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on July 13, 2015, 01:24:33 AM
Atta Ul Haq Qasmi column about Hasan Nisar without naming him. Akheer Be-Izzati.

http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/11-07-2015/col4.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 13, 2015, 02:56:20 AM
Making a lesson :crying_anim02:
Another reminder for zaid hamid like characters and their fans  :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:




http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-12/eu-demands-tsipras-s-capitulation-as-greek-bailout-costs-spiral
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: tariqkse2015 on July 13, 2015, 03:16:02 AM
When it was said that

Democracy is the best revenge

It was planned that

"More and more corruption"is the best revenge.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 13, 2015, 10:48:28 AM
Atta Ul Haq Qasmi column about Hasan Nisar without naming him. Akheer Be-Izzati.

http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/11-07-2015/col4.htm
Atta is on Ghanja's payroll since long; this character is like MERASI were in Mughal Emperor's courts.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 13, 2015, 05:10:33 PM
choudary saay bluff ka anjaam :o

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-13/tsipras-moves-from-predator-to-prey-at-euro-torture-summit
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on July 14, 2015, 11:19:48 PM
Atta Ul Haq Qasmi column about Hasan Nisar without naming him. Akheer Be-Izzati.

http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/11-07-2015/col4.htm
Atta is on Ghanja's payroll since long; this character is like MERASI were in Mughal Emperor's courts.


Atta Ul Haq Qasmi column about Hasan Nisar without naming him. Akheer Be-Izzati.

http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/11-07-2015/col4.htm
Atta is on Ghanja's payroll since long; this character is like MERASI were in Mughal Emperor's courts.


Hahahahaha. Atta is a much respected journalist while Hassan Nisar is on payroll of Abpara. In military rule never uttered a word against his mentors. Started firing cannons on politicians as soon as democracy returned. He is a pessimistic and a known drinker and corrupt.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: ValueInvestor on July 15, 2015, 07:11:39 AM
Atta Ul Haq Qasmi column about Hasan Nisar without naming him. Akheer Be-Izzati.

http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/11-07-2015/col4.htm
Atta is on Ghanja's payroll since long; this character is like MERASI were in Mughal Emperor's courts.


Atta Ul Haq Qasmi column about Hasan Nisar without naming him. Akheer Be-Izzati.

http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/11-07-2015/col4.htm
Atta is on Ghanja's payroll since long; this character is like MERASI were in Mughal Emperor's courts.


Hahahahaha. Atta is a much respected journalist while Hassan Nisar is on payroll of Abpara. In military rule never uttered a word against his mentors. Started firing cannons on politicians as soon as democracy returned. He is a pessimistic and a known drinker and corrupt.

Atta Ul Haq Qasmi is a Chobedar at Takhat-E-Lahore. Period.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 15, 2015, 07:45:18 PM
Only NS & Ghardari have the history of using media persons to effect the public opinion in their favor.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 15, 2015, 08:59:25 PM
Only NS & Ghardari have the history of using media persons to effect the public opinion in their favor.
Really :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on July 16, 2015, 01:47:44 AM
Only NS & Ghardari have the history of using media persons to effect the public opinion in their favor.
Really :skeptic:

Haha. Good Joke.

And from August 2014 onward, all Hawaldar TV anchors /channels and columnists were doing their national duty.  :shoaby:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 16, 2015, 02:23:28 AM
lagta haay modi govt U-turn will b maintained :rtfm:
this newspaper generally follow E policy :tongue:
good news for media people

http://www.hindustantimes.com/analysis/ufa-statement-has-put-nawaz-sharif-on-the-mat-in-pakistan/article1-1369651.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 17, 2015, 03:55:40 AM
Only NS & Ghardari have the history of using media persons to effect the public opinion in their favor.
Really :skeptic:

Haha. Good Joke.

And from August 2014 onward, all Hawaldar TV anchors /channels and columnists were doing their national duty.  :shoaby:


http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/16-07-2015/col4.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 17, 2015, 11:20:12 AM
Only NS & Ghardari have the history of using media persons to effect the public opinion in their favor.
Really :skeptic:

Haha. Good Joke.

And from August 2014 onward, all Hawaldar TV anchors /channels and columnists were doing their national duty.  :shoaby:


http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/16-07-2015/col4.htm
Hamid Mir is anti state; traitor S/O of a known Traitor.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 17, 2015, 11:20:54 AM
Eid Mubarak to all readers. :thanks:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 17, 2015, 11:51:17 AM
Only NS & Ghardari have the history of using media persons to effect the public opinion in their favor.
Really :skeptic:

Haha. Good Joke.

And from August 2014 onward, all Hawaldar TV anchors /channels and columnists were doing their national duty.  :shoaby:


http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/16-07-2015/col4.htm
Hamid Mir is anti state; traitor S/O of a known Traitor.

Pl don't act like a blind follower , he has only given facts , if u disagree with his conclusions that's fine but dont  label him and his deceased father ghaddar , I doubt u got any qualification in law
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 18, 2015, 07:28:51 PM
Ghaddar :crying_anim02:



http://jang.com.pk/jang/may2015-daily/22-05-2015/col6.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 18, 2015, 11:51:59 PM
Only NS & Ghardari have the history of using media persons to effect the public opinion in their favor.
Really :skeptic:

Haha. Good Joke.

And from August 2014 onward, all Hawaldar TV anchors /channels and columnists were doing their national duty.  :shoaby:
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/18/ahmed-qureshi-exposed-how-indian-lobby-working-in-pakistan/

http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/16-07-2015/col4.htm



Hamid Mir proved 100 percent correct  :[



Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 19, 2015, 12:48:22 AM
Only NS & Ghardari have the history of using media persons to effect the public opinion in their favor.
Really :skeptic:

Haha. Good Joke.

And from August 2014 onward, all Hawaldar TV anchors /channels and columnists were doing their national duty.  :shoaby:
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/18/ahmed-qureshi-exposed-how-indian-lobby-working-in-pakistan/

http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/16-07-2015/col4.htm



Hamid Mir proved 100 percent correct  :[
Choor ki darri mein tinka. Can you explain why this puppet has prejudice against Pak Army?
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 19, 2015, 01:05:42 AM
Only NS & Ghardari have the history of using media persons to effect the public opinion in their favor.
Really :skeptic:

Haha. Good Joke.

And from August 2014 onward, all Hawaldar TV anchors /channels and columnists were doing their national duty.  :shoaby:
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/18/ahmed-qureshi-exposed-how-indian-lobby-working-in-pakistan/

http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/16-07-2015/col4.htm



Hamid Mir proved 100 percent correct  :[
Choor ki darri mein tinka. Can you explain why this puppet has prejudice against Pak Army?
. Forget about Hamid Mir, tell me is he mentioning facts or spreading lies?
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 19, 2015, 11:31:48 AM
We cannot forget Mir Jaffar & same is with Hamid Mir. His profession  gives him an opportunity to act as an opinion maker & this position is being manipulated by him to serve the interests of our enemy. People like him in Pak take benefit of lawlessness & corruption. They can do anything & get scot free. I am not supporter of a martial law but love Pak & its institutions. I would have loved martial law if it would have been a pure one; a pure MT that would have hanged at least 500,000 Pakis involved in all type of social, religious, political & economical terrorism. This is the dead weight; must have to get rid of it. People like Hamid are one small part of this load. :s1:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 19, 2015, 11:40:33 AM
Power of Rod :dance
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102966829&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20150718
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 19, 2015, 11:50:44 AM
What portion of these loans is being used for productive projects?
http://www.express.pk/story/376538/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 19, 2015, 11:57:00 AM
http://www.brecorder.com/editorials/0:/1208575:raws-bribing-claims/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 19, 2015, 01:46:55 PM
We cannot forget Mir Jaffar & same is with Hamid Mir. His profession  gives him an opportunity to act as an opinion maker & this position is being manipulated by him to serve the interests of our enemy. People like him in Pak take benefit of lawlessness & corruption. They can do anything & get scot free. I am not supporter of a martial law but love Pak & its institutions. I would have loved martial law if it would have been a pure one; a pure MT that would have hanged at least 500,000 Pakis involved in all type of social, religious, political & economical terrorism. This is the dead weight; must have to get rid of it. People like Hamid are one small part of this load. :s1:
.  Just like modi banning zakir naik peace TV in India , Lagta haay modi is india Gorbachev
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 19, 2015, 02:08:55 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/us-prisons-president-obamas-lasting-legacy-will-be-penal-reform-10399050.html

Weldone
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jamalakhter on July 19, 2015, 02:30:44 PM
Only NS & Ghardari have the history of using media persons to effect the public opinion in their favor.
Really :skeptic:

Haha. Good Joke.

And from August 2014 onward, all Hawaldar TV anchors /channels and columnists were doing their national duty.  :shoaby:
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/18/ahmed-qureshi-exposed-how-indian-lobby-working-in-pakistan/

http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/16-07-2015/col4.htm



Hamid Mir proved 100 percent correct  :[
Choor ki darri mein tinka. Can you explain why this puppet has prejudice against Pak Army?
         musharaf  is not pak  army
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 19, 2015, 04:01:19 PM
http://m.hindustantimes.com/india-news/iits-being-used-for-anti-india-anti-hindu-activities-alleges-rss/article1-1370901.aspx
Now India under Taliban?  Aab junta koo CORRUPT Congress YAAD aayaee gee :o
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 19, 2015, 04:58:42 PM
Challoo  Iss koo b axact Wala Ghaddari Ja Certificate dooooooo :bangin: :bangin: :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/us/politics/trump-belittles-mccains-war-record.html?referrer=
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 19, 2015, 05:13:28 PM
Baysharmooo ka Sardar :rtfm:


http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/19-07-2015/index.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 20, 2015, 04:07:13 PM
Baysharmooo ka Sardar :rtfm:


http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/19-07-2015/index.html
JI & Jamiat Tulba is a breeding ground for terrorism.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 20, 2015, 05:15:37 PM
Baysharmooo ka Sardar :rtfm:


http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/19-07-2015/index.html
JI & Jamiat Tulba is a breeding ground for terrorism.

Bhai,
Kuch tu Allah ka Khouf karoo ,
Yeh 1 plus 1  equals 11 propaganda tu Hoo Sakta haay but usually such statements r oversimplification of very complex issues though choice is indeed yours
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 20, 2015, 09:08:47 PM
Pehlaay hee kiya less gunah thay joo yeh harkat b kaar daali  :$:
History biggest lesson-history saay koi learn nahi karta  :(



http://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/pakistan/the-royal-wedding-that-cost-pia-passengers-heavily-845/

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/20/10-new-vehicles-added-in-pm-nawaz-sharif-squad-worth-rs-30-billion/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: jamalakhter on July 21, 2015, 03:38:36 PM
Baysharmooo ka Sardar :rtfm:


http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/19-07-2015/index.html
JI & Jamiat Tulba is a breeding ground for terrorism.

Bhai,
Kuch tu Allah ka Khouf karoo ,
Yeh 1 plus 1  equals 11 propaganda tu Hoo Sakta haay but usually such statements r oversimplification of very complex issues though choice is indeed yours
     in recent by election at karachi  there was a cadidate of paspan against J I, such extremist live no longer in j i  .
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 21, 2015, 04:09:12 PM
Baysharmooo ka Sardar :rtfm:


http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/19-07-2015/index.html
JI & Jamiat Tulba is a breeding ground for terrorism.

Bhai,
Kuch tu Allah ka Khouf karoo ,
Yeh 1 plus 1  equals 11 propaganda tu Hoo Sakta haay but usually such statements r oversimplification of very complex issues though choice is indeed yours
     in recent by election at karachi  there was a cadidate of paspan against J I, such extremist live no longer in j i  .


Pasbaan prez is doc, he was my senior classmate and very Sharif in every aspect. He was also Ijt  student union president. Why v want to make affiliation with any religious party a stigma?
And worst of all by people who made them extremely powerful during and after afghan jihad to counter PPP country wide popularity in name of national interest   :[
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 21, 2015, 08:04:11 PM
Baysharmooo ka Sardar :rtfm:


http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/19-07-2015/index.html
JI & Jamiat Tulba is a breeding ground for terrorism.

Bhai,
Kuch tu Allah ka Khouf karoo ,
Yeh 1 plus 1  equals 11 propaganda tu Hoo Sakta haay but usually such statements r oversimplification of very complex issues though choice is indeed yours
     in recent by election at karachi  there was a cadidate of paspan against J I, such extremist live no longer in j i  .


Pasbaan prez is doc, he was my senior classmate and very Sharif in every aspect. He was also Ijt  student union president. Why v want to make affiliation with any religious party a stigma?
And worst of all by people who made them extremely powerful during and after afghan jihad to counter PPP country wide popularity in name of national interest   :[
. Yeh altaf shakoor tu engineer nikla :o
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on July 22, 2015, 01:36:36 AM
Pehlaay hee kiya less gunah thay joo yeh harkat b kaar daali  :$:
History biggest lesson-history saay koi learn nahi karta  :(



http://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/pakistan/the-royal-wedding-that-cost-pia-passengers-heavily-845/

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/20/10-new-vehicles-added-in-pm-nawaz-sharif-squad-worth-rs-30-billion/


ZEM TV is pehaps PTI Media channel as it shares same level of bongian that is normally done by PTI leadership. 30 billion for 10 vehicles means 3 billion each. Are these James Bond Cars or Missile armoured Tanks?
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 22, 2015, 11:33:48 AM
Baysharmooo ka Sardar :rtfm:


http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/19-07-2015/index.html
JI & Jamiat Tulba is a breeding ground for terrorism.

Bhai,
Kuch tu Allah ka Khouf karoo ,
Yeh 1 plus 1  equals 11 propaganda tu Hoo Sakta haay but usually such statements r oversimplification of very complex issues though choice is indeed yours
     in recent by election at karachi  there was a cadidate of paspan against J I, such extremist live no longer in j i  .


Pasbaan prez is doc, he was my senior classmate and very Sharif in every aspect. He was also Ijt  student union president. Why v want to make affiliation with any religious party a stigma?
And worst of all by people who made them extremely powerful during and after afghan jihad to counter PPP country wide popularity in name of national interest   :[
. Yeh altaf shakoor tu engineer nikla :o
Cry foul; now get ready to have the justice; cruel justice.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 23, 2015, 11:53:46 PM
Ganjoooo koo tu ALLAH naay more izzat daay dee :good

http://www.dawn.com/news/1195875/jc-finds-2013-elections-fair-and-in-accordance-with-law
aab tayra kia hoo Ga kalia :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 24, 2015, 11:24:43 AM
Ganjoooo koo tu ALLAH naay more izzat daay dee :good

http://www.dawn.com/news/1195875/jc-finds-2013-elections-fair-and-in-accordance-with-law
aab tayra kia hoo Ga kalia :skeptic:
Chain is still around the neck like ....; let's hope good for motherland. :s1:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 24, 2015, 01:53:47 PM
Ganjoooo koo tu ALLAH naay more izzat daay dee :good

http://www.dawn.com/news/1195875/jc-finds-2013-elections-fair-and-in-accordance-with-law
aab tayra kia hoo Ga kalia :skeptic:
Chain is still around the neck like ....; let's hope good for motherland. :s1:
Heera mandee saay escape near to  impossible  :rtfm: because -------------- :down:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 24, 2015, 05:06:59 PM
Ganjoooo koo tu ALLAH naay more izzat daay dee :good

http://www.dawn.com/news/1195875/jc-finds-2013-elections-fair-and-in-accordance-with-law
aab tayra kia hoo Ga kalia :skeptic:
Chain is still around the neck like ....; let's hope good for motherland. :s1:
Heera mandee saay escape near to  impossible  :rtfm: because -------------- :down:
Yes NS gets good support from this ghandee mandee as this place has been his long time ally.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Dehan on July 24, 2015, 05:51:42 PM
Ganjoooo koo tu ALLAH naay more izzat daay dee :good

http://www.dawn.com/news/1195875/jc-finds-2013-elections-fair-and-in-accordance-with-law
aab tayra kia hoo Ga kalia :skeptic:
Chain is still around the neck like ....; let's hope good for motherland. :s1:
Heera mandee saay escape near to  impossible  :rtfm: because -------------- :down:
Yes NS gets good support from this ghandee mandee as this place has been his long time ally.
Ye alag baat ha k Dharnein mujra rooz saray aam hota tha.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 25, 2015, 01:46:27 AM
Ganjoooo koo tu ALLAH naay more izzat daay dee :good

http://www.dawn.com/news/1195875/jc-finds-2013-elections-fair-and-in-accordance-with-law
aab tayra kia hoo Ga kalia :skeptic:
Chain is still around the neck like ....; let's hope good for motherland. :s1:
Heera mandee saay escape near to  impossible  :rtfm: because -------------- :down:
Yes NS gets good support from this ghandee mandee as this place has been his long time ally.
Ye alag baat ha k Dharnein mujra rooz saray aam hota tha.
Yes it depends on the glass you are looking through. Waisay bee ghand to dakhnay waali aank may hoota hay. Ghanday insaan to achi cheez be ulti hee nazar aye gee. :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 25, 2015, 02:49:02 AM
Success has many fathers ,failure is an orphan  :skeptic:



http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/24/live-with-dr-shahid-masood-tabdeeli-agai-24th-july-2015/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 25, 2015, 02:53:01 AM
Ganjoooo koo tu ALLAH naay more izzat daay dee :good
 :bangin:
http://www.dawn.com/news/1195875/jc-finds-2013-elections-fair-and-in-accordance-with-law
aab tayra kia hoo Ga kalia :skeptic:
Chain is still around the neck like ....; let's hope good for motherland. :s1:
Heera mandee saay escape near to  impossible  :rtfm: because -------------- :down:

Hope,
Point will not b missed again:bang in  :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:



http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/25/javed-hashmi-reveals-the-personal-talk-between-him-and-gen-pasha/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 25, 2015, 01:43:45 PM
Pakistan is progressing; A big question mark. Definitely it is going down:
Making roads & Metros only by heavily borrowing from banks; prime object: Kickbacks & Commission; Beurocracy be khish & politician be; Hell with country.
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102977022&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20150725
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 25, 2015, 03:10:13 PM
Heera mandee  :skeptic:



http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/25/why-imran-khan-impose-dharna-in-red-zone-javed-hashmi-exposed-ik/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 25, 2015, 03:18:00 PM
Kia bola?
Islamic Republic of Pakistan  :[
Aaoo aaj saay Jhoot bolna stop karaay ya mulk ka naam CHANGE karaay under Tabdeeli Leadership  :skeptic:


http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/25/pakistani-civil-judge-caught-dancing-in-a-party/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 25, 2015, 05:19:39 PM
for Babu fans :$:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/jul2015-daily/25-07-2015/col1.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 26, 2015, 03:49:25 PM
Heera mandee  :skeptic:



http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/25/why-imran-khan-impose-dharna-in-red-zone-javed-hashmi-exposed-ik/
ignore first 15 minutes/information minister pervez Rashid
but those interested in pak politics may find Tariq mehmood (from 19th minute) and esp last 20-22
minutes interesting

http://www.awaztoday.tv/News-Talk-Shows/91715/Nasim-Zehra-930-24th-July-2015.aspx
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 26, 2015, 04:05:58 PM
This is called Accountability :rtfm:
Unfortunately Junta want these kind of headlines for fun only because everyone believes pakland maay
Saab chalta/bikta haay and criminals no longer fear such stories warna aab taak AZ and NS sharam saay died :skeptic:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11763660/Lord-Sewel-resigns-after-snorting-cocaine-with-two-prostitutes.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on July 31, 2015, 02:03:19 AM
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1102984969&Issue=NP_KHI&Date=20150730
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on July 31, 2015, 12:49:23 PM
Kia bola?
Islamic Republic of Pakistan  :[
Aaoo aaj saay Jhoot bolna stop karaay ya mulk ka naam CHANGE karaay under Tabdeeli Leadership  :skeptic:


http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/25/pakistani-civil-judge-caught-dancing-in-a-party/
Be very clear that all judges are not worth the respectable seat & all don't come through proper channel. Vested interest has got law under which a certain %age of HC judges are appointed direct. Mostly these judges are from political parties & everyone knows what type of these people are; worst people in our society. So what do you expect from these?
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 01, 2015, 01:18:24 PM
poori dunya iss hamaam maay NAKED haay :(

http://jang.com.pk/jang/aug2015-daily/01-08-2015/col4.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 01, 2015, 03:09:25 PM
kuch na keh kaar saab keh Giya :skeptic:
power comes with responsibility but most of us
fail Responsibility test when it matters :down:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/930430/rashid-latif-silence-is-a-good-strategy-for-sarfraz/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 01, 2015, 04:48:11 PM
Real Progress :good
http://jang.com.pk/jang/aug2015-daily/01-08-2015/u57135.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 01, 2015, 09:26:18 PM
Kia bola?
Islamic Republic of Pakistan  :[
Aaoo aaj saay Jhoot bolna stop karaay ya mulk ka naam CHANGE karaay under Tabdeeli Leadership  :skeptic:


http://www.zemtv.com/2015/07/25/pakistani-civil-judge-caught-dancing-in-a-party/
Be very clear that all judges are not worth the respectable seat & all don't come through proper channel. Vested interest has got law under which a certain %age of HC judges are appointed direct. Mostly these judges are from political parties & everyone knows what type of these people are; worst people in our society. So what do you expect from these?
Good explanation, I agree :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 01, 2015, 11:02:11 PM
Evergreen and universal Race card on display in USA once more :rtfm:
Hum chootaay and illiterate loog fazool maay Punjabi-Sindhi-Baluch aur pathan ki larai saay Ghabra jataay haay :[


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/01/us/politics/hillary-clinton-hits-jeb-bush-first-and-hard-in-speech-on-race.html?referrer=
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 01, 2015, 11:42:33 PM

Aur London Wala Bhai still sleeping,
Jidhar politics hoo saktee haay udhar karta nahi  :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:


http://www.dawn.com/news/1197619/silence-best-for-sarfraz-advises-rashid
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 02, 2015, 12:49:12 PM


http://www.awaztoday.tv/singlecolumn/24752/Hamid-Mir/Imran-Khan-Aur-General-Keyani.aspx

yeh journalist /contractor kaun haay, koi confirm karaay Ga?
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 02, 2015, 02:06:14 PM
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/08/02/kya-dharne-ke-peeche-genrals-ke-khilaf-koi-inquiry-hogi-najam-sethi-reveals/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 04, 2015, 12:19:24 AM
Progress


http://www.zemtv.com/2015/08/03/chote-saeen-bare-saeen-javed-chaudhary-chitrol-of-zardari-qaim-ali-shah/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on August 04, 2015, 10:44:56 AM
At least we would not see change in Pakistan becoz change need hang all corrupt politicians.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on August 05, 2015, 10:57:27 AM
AT last we get the much desired hope; Ab chak do phatty. Down with MQM & all other terrorism:
Military Courts are Constitutional now:
http://www.dawn.com/news/1198533/sc-upholds-establishment-of-military-courts.
Mubarak hoo. :good :good :dance
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 05, 2015, 10:32:45 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/03/us/probation-sounding-light-can-land-hard.html?emc=edit_th_20150803&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=63742525&_r=0

power comes with Responsibility,
itnay Robust  :rtfm:checks k bawajood Ziadtiiiiiii hoo jatee haay :(
pakland among most corrupt nations list tu kia ghar bhar nahi
hoo saktee :skeptic:
person   earns Dil wali respects through his deeds not because of his power warna
na shah exiled hota,
mubarak caged
aur Sisi chupta phirta.
banaoo courts lagaoo phansiii but process has to transparent, fair and neutral.
kia altaf k khilaf 100`s of FIR`s inspire confidence uuu
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on August 07, 2015, 10:53:14 AM
There has never been justice in Pak which is the only requirement to set the course in right direction. As both civil & military rules could not provide it; what nation should do about it? This is the reason we pin hope on any window that may deliver some thing of it. Punishing the corrupt bureaucracy & politicians is more important than killing the criminals. First portion is the real culprit who have destroyed Pak. So nab the real bastards, rest will set right in the process.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 08, 2015, 11:33:08 AM

Qabza group still too powerful in Pakland?
http://jang.com.pk/jang/aug2015-daily/08-08-2015/col3.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 08, 2015, 01:59:46 PM
Benjamin Netanyahu-
well known hawk has probably harmed his country long term interests in US more than any other israeli leader , what has historically been strictly behind the closed doors discussion is now being debated openly in public -internet naay pooray world koo informed aur boohat choota kaar dia haay :skeptic:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/08/world/middleeast/fears-of-lasting-rift-as-obama-battles-pro-israel-group-on-iran.html?emc=edit_th_20150808&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=63742525&_r=0
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 12, 2015, 02:04:00 AM
khamosh rahoooo :skeptic:


http://www.express.pk/story/382723/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 12, 2015, 02:23:40 PM
Mqm resignations, karnaay doo-ball tempering definitely hoo gee under umpire supervision and media too will b required to turn a blind eye, resignations will accelerate emergence of new patriotic leadership  :[ atleast alidxb tu keys hoo ga :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Let's c U-turn hota haay k nahi :tongue:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 12, 2015, 09:43:36 PM
Mqm resignations, karnaay doo-ball tempering definitely hoo gee under umpire supervision and media too will b required to turn a blind eye, resignations will accelerate emergence of new patriotic leadership  :[ atleast alidxb tu khus hoo ga :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Let's c U-turn hota haay k nahi :tongue:
http://jang.com.pk/jang/aug2015-daily/12-08-2015/u58091.htm(from lion Roar
to cat mew in no time :tongue:, once in power, insan wants power forever :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 12, 2015, 09:47:40 PM
cant beat him, tu phir party torna  manzoor haay :thumbsdown_anim: :thumbsdown_anim: :thumbsdown_anim:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11797857/Jeremy-Corbyn-will-be-ousted-on-day-one-as-leader-Labour-MP-Simon-Danczuk-warns.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 13, 2015, 12:06:53 AM
interesting :confused1:
http://tribune.com.pk/story/936673/ppps-alizeh-iqbal-haider-resigns-from-national-assembly/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on August 14, 2015, 02:18:54 PM
May God forgive us & help us to get rid of dacoits, selfish & corrupt rulers. Thanks all workers & Leaders of Independence Movement. Long Live Pakistan & down with traitors, Zardaris, Sharifs, & hate spreading Mullahs.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 14, 2015, 03:03:37 PM
May God forgive us & help us to get rid of dacoits, selfish & corrupt rulers. Thanks all workers & Leaders of Independence Movement. Long Live Pakistan & down with traitors, Zardaris, Sharifs, & hate spreading Mullahs.

Surf Slogans nahi real solutions b khappayyyyyyyy
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 15, 2015, 12:52:43 PM
 :[
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103014391&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20150815
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 15, 2015, 10:18:29 PM
aaj taak qaum koo kaun baywaqoof banataa raha haay?
sawal tu waqai yehi haay :skeptic:

http://www.bbc.com/urdu/regional/2015/08/150814_1965_war_victory_bad_taste_zz
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 15, 2015, 10:48:03 PM
May God forgive us & help us to get rid of dacoits, selfish & corrupt rulers. Thanks all workers & Leaders of Independence Movement. Long Live Pakistan & down with traitors, Zardaris, Sharifs, & hate spreading Mullahs.

Surf Slogans nahi real solutions b khappayyyyyyyy
http://tribune.com.pk/story/938618/zain-murder-case-key-witness-denies-recognising-mustafa-kanju/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 16, 2015, 02:48:15 PM
very balanced  :skeptic:

http://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan/2015/08/150816_hamid_gul_profile_rh
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 19, 2015, 02:11:44 AM
all of us r born with few blind spots,
very few manage to overcome all of these  :(

http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103019099&Issue=NP_KHI&Date=20150818

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Arsalan on August 19, 2015, 10:44:51 AM
Final word on Pakistan by Humans of New York.

https://www.facebook.com/humansofnewyork/photos/a.102107073196735.4429.102099916530784/1057794727627960/?type=1&theater




Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on August 19, 2015, 06:41:57 PM
Final word on Pakistan by Humans of New York.

https://www.facebook.com/humansofnewyork/photos/a.102107073196735.4429.102099916530784/1057794727627960/?type=1&theater
Thanks  for sharing it. :thanks:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 20, 2015, 12:00:40 AM
Good move :good

http://jang.com.pk/jang/aug2015-daily/19-08-2015/u58666.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 21, 2015, 01:28:20 PM
For next CJ
Though gene aik haay
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/20/world/asia/teesta-setalvad-modi-india.html?referrer=
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 22, 2015, 12:41:11 AM
Axact aftermath :crying_anim02:
iftikhar ahmed cried Left all his life before joining Bol
and Wajahat used 2 occupy high moral ground when giving his comments
both couldnt Resist Axact fantasy packages and jumped bol ship as soon as
Axact scandal news became public :skeptic:
born oppurtunist or too clever  :confused1: u decide but these days
both trying to gain E attention :tongue:
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/08/22/now-india-has-to-understant-that-pakistan-cant-talk-without-the-issue-of-kashmir-iftikhar-ahmed/

 http://www.zemtv.com/2015/08/22/wajhat-challenges-to-indian-panel/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 22, 2015, 12:58:43 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/aug2015-daily/22-08-2015/col5.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 22, 2015, 01:30:34 PM
money ki bhook sirf barhti haay
sunna haay health sector maay b similar type ka boohat corruption
huwa haay :skeptic:



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-judge-receives-28year-jail-term-for-his-role-in--kidsforcash-kickbacks-8598147.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 22, 2015, 07:33:37 PM

http://herald.dawn.com/news/1153224/tilting-at-windmills
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on August 22, 2015, 11:26:33 PM
NA 122 result is an other slap on the face of corrupt mafia who have held hostage this nation since long. Thanks Justice Kazim. :good :good
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Dehan on August 22, 2015, 11:37:39 PM
NA 122 result is an other slap on the face of corrupt mafia who have held hostage this nation since long. Thanks Justice Kazim. :good :good
The decision is of Re-polling not re-election.
So all the old candidates will only participate.

Interestingly if govt do not get stay and go for repolling.
Ik will have to resign from Pindi Seat to contest in repolling.
Abi sab khoshain mana rehay hain is baat ki samaj kisi ko nahi ai.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 22, 2015, 11:43:27 PM
NA 122 result is an other slap on the face of corrupt mafia who have held hostage this nation since long. Thanks Justice Kazim. :good :good

Also a more zoordaar slap on Refree who selectively turn a blind eye whenever it suits them :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on August 22, 2015, 11:43:40 PM
NA 122 result is an other slap on the face of corrupt mafia who have held hostage this nation since long. Thanks Justice Kazim. :good :good
The decision is of Re-polling not re-election.
So all the old candidates will only participate.

Interestingly if govt do not get stay and go for repolling.
Ik will have to resign from Pindi Seat to contest in repolling.
Abi sab khoshain mana rehay hain is baat ki samaj kisi ko nahi ai.
Ik wins or looses in repolling is of no significance; proving the real facts behind 2013 fake elections is very important. Take note 2016 is the year for General Elections Insha Allah. Associates & frontmen of Ghardari will be behind the bars very soon & next turn of NL. :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: deemah on August 23, 2015, 02:47:11 AM
It speaks volumes about our justice system. Election tribunal took 2 years to decide and SC will take another 2 years to give a judgement and we will be ready for the next election!
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on August 23, 2015, 02:18:55 PM
Bro there is no justice at all in Pakistan. Only poor criminal who could not approach up, are sure to get the justice. If you have money; then there is no problem. Upsurge of terrorism in Pakistan & flourishing terrorism economy was made possible due to rampant corruption in our society. You remember one very objectionable comment given by a renowned American about us; I am not able to reproduce; just hint; " Give money; Pakis will be ready to sell their ......". Hue & cry was raised against it; but it was a true & correct utterance. :[
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 25, 2015, 12:25:27 PM
unconscious reaction to Mughals Rule or
Modi /india`s Gorbachev ka bhala hoo uuu


http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/mangalore-muslim-man-stripped-in-busy-market-for-speaking-to-a-hindu-woman/article1-1383894.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on August 25, 2015, 12:40:03 PM
This is good development to further disintegerate India.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on August 25, 2015, 11:49:26 PM
Armies of both countries were eye to eye for months; just waiting for first fire to shot. Musharaf's statement came, our boundary is red line for you Indians; cross it & then see the game. SENSEX was fused next day & there were no seat in  any flight going out of India. Foreignors were crazy to leave India on next flight. Modi is IG of stupids; he could not understand boss Raheel & under-estimating will of our nation. Modi will create war hysteria like it has been done many times in past to keep Pakistan under pressure. September to Mar next are crucial.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on August 26, 2015, 04:43:14 PM
Sorry for NS supporters. Election 2013 were fake; it is proved. Other thing proved that justice is very very expensive; if available: :@
http://www.express.pk/story/386464/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 27, 2015, 02:24:21 AM
Sorry for NS supporters. Election 2013 were fake; it is proved. Other thing proved that justice is very very expensive; if available: :@
http://www.express.pk/story/386464/

Let's c re-election maay Kia hota haay :rtfm:
Junta koo boohat tension maay rakhtaay haay , thora politicians koo b tension doo :tongue:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on August 27, 2015, 06:50:02 PM
May God forgive us & help us to get rid of dacoits, selfish & corrupt rulers. Thanks all workers & Leaders of Independence Movement. Long Live Pakistan & down with traitors, Zardaris, Sharifs, & hate spreading Mullahs.

Surf Slogans nahi real solutions b khappayyyyyyyy
Solutions have started pouring now; enemies of this nation among politicians are being caught now. But there is no solution for those who have prejudice against Pakistan & its institutions. Obviously there could no bar on one's inside feeling. Keep burning.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on August 27, 2015, 06:58:43 PM
Pls start head counting of terrorist being sent to hell by actions in much awaited areas in Punjab. Long live Pak Army; Lon Live Pak. :good
http://www.express.pk/story/386809/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on August 27, 2015, 07:06:37 PM
This action was long overdue. PPP is the real enemy within. They had damaged Pakistan not less than Takfiree terrorists & MQM had given. NS was supposed to keep follow up cases against Gardari PPP but he had cut a deal with these economic terrorists under which they got scot free.
Thanks to SC & pressures from Army that these type of terrorists will meet their destiny.
http://www.express.pk/story/386778/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on August 30, 2015, 04:37:28 AM
This action was long overdue. PPP is the real enemy within. They had damaged Pakistan not less than Takfiree terrorists & MQM had given. NS was supposed to keep follow up cases against Gardari PPP but he had cut a deal with these economic terrorists under which they got scot free.
Thanks to SC & pressures from Army that these type of terrorists will meet their destiny.
http://www.express.pk/story/386778/
kabhi hum aur tum maay b piyaar tha,
tumhaay yaad hoo k na yaad hoo :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:
boss naay jis taraf ka signal diya hum chaal paraay :biggthumpup:
but many saay Mirza was AZ front man for several years :skeptic:
hamain kiya, baas kse maay permanent laoooooo maal khappaay :good

http://jang.com.pk/jang/aug2015-daily/29-08-2015/u59607.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on September 04, 2015, 12:22:57 PM
I used to say long ago that MQM is a terrorist outfit & not a political party. Now it is proved that MQM was an Indian Proxy who have been fighting war with us for last 35 years. India was successful in damaging Pakistan with a huge blow without invading us. This is also proved that Pak is a banana state whereby Govt was just watching the whole game. Let's see how Govt punishes these MQM traitors & collaborators like Zardari etc.
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103051057&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20150904
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on September 04, 2015, 06:02:04 PM
I used to say long ago that MQM is a terrorist outfit & not a political party. Now it is proved that MQM was an Indian Proxy who have been fighting war with us for last 35 years. India was successful in damaging Pakistan with a huge blow without invading us. This is also proved that Pak is a banana state whereby Govt was just watching the whole game. Let's see how Govt punishes these MQM traitors & collaborators like Zardari etc.
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103051057&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20150904

Problem is complex. No question MQM is a terror group. But other parties PPP, ANP, Sunni Tehreek, JI all have militant wings and involved in terror activities. With MQM being the largest group. If operation is held against MQM only, they will again get the sympathy of Urdu Speaking community. Justice must be done for all.

MQM is a political party as well and it is popular too in certain areas. If not handled correctly, the situation can backfire. I again say, it is not that simple to be left alone to army. Political solution must also be sought and grievances of Urdu speaking have to be addressed which are the basic reason of MQM popularity.

NO. I am neither mohajir nor live in Karachi. I am Punjabi speaking and live in southern Punjab.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 04, 2015, 06:11:39 PM
I used to say long ago that MQM is a terrorist outfit & not a political party. Now it is proved that MQM was an Indian Proxy who have been fighting war with us for last 35 years. India was successful in damaging Pakistan with a huge blow without invading us. This is also proved that Pak is a banana state whereby Govt was just watching the whole game. Let's see how Govt punishes these MQM traitors & collaborators like Zardari etc.
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103051057&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20150904

Sir,
Mohsin k saath another soul arrested, media too scared to ask about second suspect , keep saying in 1 small sentence woo shayid Zinda nahi? Uss khoon Ka aap kabhi zikar nahi kartaay!
Shayid uss k parents stone k haay and they don't know anyone in the power Mafia :crying_anim02:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 05, 2015, 01:51:04 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2015-daily/05-09-2015/col1.html
Why Invisible hand and their fans  always want invisible hand to sort out Every issue😏
Kia yeh kaam system koo Strong kaar k nahi hoo sakta  :rtfm:
Ans-billi lion ki khala haay , fully understand system strong huwa tu billi ka number b number b dial hoo ga and publicly Dial hoo Ga😎


Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 05, 2015, 09:39:23 PM
Karachi could not become a separate province-Imran khan
IK and alidxb saay sirf 2 sawaal :skeptic:
-IK always talks about Merit , so why he always avoid discussion on Quota system :confused1:
-Why Double domicile Rule only applies to karachi :o, saraay mulk ki population can
come to karachi and get a second domicile within 2 years and for rest of his/her working
life can use both place of birth Domicile and karachi domicile for job application but
karachi domiciled person not entitled to get second domicile legally from Rural sindh or any part of punjab, baluchistan or KP matbal karachi is Ganga  :tongue:
if this is factually incorrect,pl clarify in BOLD because MQM popularity graph will not come down
until and unless these issues get resolved :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 05, 2015, 10:58:18 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2015-daily/05-09-2015/u60233.htm
inn jaisoo k khilaaf JIT kaab and kaun Order karaay GA :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 06, 2015, 12:49:51 PM
for E fans

http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2015-daily/06-09-2015/col2.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 06, 2015, 09:34:54 PM
Gene AIK haay :rtfm:
http://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan/2015/09/150906_baat_say_baat_defence_day_sr
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 06, 2015, 09:39:21 PM
Punjab nahi Pakistan XI khappay-Zafrullah Jamali :$:
http://www.bbc.com/urdu/sport/2015/09/150906_phf_crisis_hockey_as
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 07, 2015, 12:27:36 AM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2015-daily/05-09-2015/u60233.htm
inn jaisoo k khilaaf JIT kaab and kaun Order karaay GA :rtfm:
Gene AIK haay  :(
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/2007-samjhauta-express-blasts-case-four-more-samjhauta-witnesses-turn-hostile/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 07, 2015, 01:40:35 AM
worth watching-second half

http://www.awaztoday.tv/News-Talk-Shows/95618/Naya-Pakistan-Talat-Hussain-Kay-Sath-Naya-Pakistan-Kay-Liye-Apnay-Shuhada-Ko-Yad-Rakhna-6th-September-2015.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 07, 2015, 02:29:29 AM
lagta haay pehlaay Shahbaz ki qurbani hoo Gee  :rtfm:

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-196534-Ex-MPA-Humaira-Shahid-attends-reception-at-Pak-American-Association-of-Texas-
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on September 07, 2015, 12:10:16 PM
worth watching-second half

http://www.awaztoday.tv/News-Talk-Shows/95618/Naya-Pakistan-Talat-Hussain-Kay-Sath-Naya-Pakistan-Kay-Liye-Apnay-Shuhada-Ko-Yad-Rakhna-6th-September-2015.aspx
Why are you always promoting anti Pak perspective? There are angry men on both sides Indo-Pak. GEO is anti Pak & Indian sponsored channel. Why are you not showing Indian perspective who says India lost?  Why are you not promoting our perspective even if you love our enemy's perspective? Very clear prejudice in your actions. :@
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 07, 2015, 12:59:15 PM
worth watching-second half

http://www.awaztoday.tv/News-Talk-Shows/95618/Naya-Pakistan-Talat-Hussain-Kay-Sath-Naya-Pakistan-Kay-Liye-Apnay-Shuhada-Ko-Yad-Rakhna-6th-September-2015.aspx
Why are you always promoting anti Pak perspective? There are angry men on both sides Indo-Pak. GEO is anti Pak & Indian sponsored channel. Why are you not showing Indian perspective who says India lost?  Why are you not promoting our perspective even if you love our enemy's perspective? Very clear prejudice in your actions. :@
only yesterday,
someone commented `sending notices to 40 big shots owning expensive Dubai properties to explain source of their funding`
is FINE  but yeh saab kuch kaisaay huwa and whoever deliberately turned a`blind eye `
too needs to b questioned :skeptic:
many will call this a Proper Post-mortem/proper reflection while easier or our preferred option generally has been `Bhool jaoo/blame Ghaddar /enemy and no proper accountability `
V lost east pakistan, still close to losing balchistan, karachi already too volatile due to engineered population mix, Rural Sindh appear Leaderless at present.
kia hum sirf mistakes karnaay k liay paida huwaay haay :(
R v incapable of hearing the truth and learning from our past mistakes :confused1:
patriotic slogans, songs ,plays etc got limited shelf life, uss k baad junta takes them seriously only if there is some Reward for them as well , mulk khappay 100% khappay
but saath maay peace, law and order and equal oppurtunities b khappay warna pakland
maay qiamat taak Ghaddar ka label sell hota rahaay Ga, yeh may nahi history bolti haay
chootay bhai :tongue:       
 
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on September 07, 2015, 05:23:55 PM
Dear Salam bhai: History gives us very clear msg. India+ Afghanistan can never be our friend. Elements in Pakistan taking their side can never be patriots.
This is for you:
Dear Pseudo Liberals, what is the point of belittling the sacrifices of our soldiers in ’65 war?
http://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/opinion/blog/dear-pseudo-liberals-what-is-the-point-of-denying-the-sacrifices-of-our-soldiers-in-65-war/

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 07, 2015, 06:03:24 PM
Dear Salam bhai: History gives us very clear msg. India+ Afghanistan can never be our friend. Elements in Pakistan taking their side can never be patriots.
This is for you:
Dear Pseudo Liberals, what is the point of belittling the sacrifices of our soldiers in ’65 war?
http://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/opinion/blog/dear-pseudo-liberals-what-is-the-point-of-denying-the-sacrifices-of-our-soldiers-in-65-war/
Sir,
I respect your opinion, but in life never say never, faida hee hoo Ga :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 07, 2015, 06:23:35 PM
Dear Salam bhai: History gives us very clear msg. India+ Afghanistan can never be our friend. Elements in Pakistan taking their side can never be patriots.
This is for you:
Dear Pseudo Liberals, what is the point of belittling the sacrifices of our soldiers in ’65 war?
http://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/opinion/blog/dear-pseudo-liberals-what-is-the-point-of-denying-the-sacrifices-of-our-soldiers-in-65-war/

I c it progress, for decades nobody could question any khaki on media, now e-era has forced E to admit they too got black sheeps and prone to make mistakes. Next logical step would b accountability with a view to avoiding past grevious errors. Hameed Gul no longer with us but never charged for forming IJI while mush too still under Special protection  :laugh: dodgy NGO's koo form and run karma without rishwat impossible, aisee NGO's forun ban karaay and middle men koo severe punishment, no one will disagree
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 07, 2015, 08:54:16 PM
such bolna seekh rahaay haay :skeptic:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/09/07/saeed-azhar-analysis-on-mqm-situation/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on September 08, 2015, 12:14:02 AM
such bolna seekh rahaay haay :skeptic:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/09/07/saeed-azhar-analysis-on-mqm-situation/
Bhai Jan, This was the system's malfunctioning that kameenay had become respectables in Pakistan. Criminals were never punished which made them so powerful that they were killing even LEA on the roads, in their offices & where ever they wished they killed. Govt didn't move when ordinary peoples were being killed daily. Bastard mullahs, JI, LEJ, SSP, Mulla Diesel & other related mullahs; GEO TV & many more were the biggest supporters of terrorists. After APS, every thing changed. Now time has changed when Army took over the control. Obviously criminals & their masters will feel the pain which they are feeling. Feel the difference that both parties in Sind are running about to save themselves. Action against the cannibles have been startedin Punjab & Baluchistan too. Wish that article 245 is imposed in all Pak & summary trials starts which will bring the real change.   
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on September 08, 2015, 12:38:10 AM
See how PPP dacoits & NS move hand in hand in plundering the nation. Rs. Billion 21 project is completed in Rs. 81 Billion but still in problems. Govt still telling lies. They have forget their day of reckoning. Govt is sinking the nation to the worst depth due to his wrongdoings. Pls see the clip from Minute 23.33 & onwards: http://www.zemtv.com/2015/09/07/dunya-kamran-khan-kay-sath-pakistan-army-chief-says-ready-to-respond-to-enemys-misadventure-7th-september-2015/


Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 08, 2015, 02:16:27 AM
such bolna seekh rahaay haay :skeptic:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/09/07/saeed-azhar-analysis-on-mqm-situation/
Bhai Jan, This was the system's malfunctioning that kameenay had become respectables in Pakistan. Criminals were never punished which made them so powerful that they were killing even LEA on the roads, in their offices & where ever they wished they killed. Govt didn't move when ordinary peoples were being killed daily. Bastard mullahs, JI, LEJ, SSP, Mulla Diesel & other related mullahs; GEO TV & many more were the biggest supporters of terrorists. After APS, every thing changed. Now time has changed when Army took over the control. Obviously criminals & their masters will feel the pain which they are feeling. Feel the difference that both parties in Sind are running about to save themselves. Action against the cannibles have been startedin Punjab & Baluchistan too. Wish that article 245 is imposed in all Pak & summary trials starts which will bring the real change.   

Bro, I think u r either too young to understand what I am saying or u don't want to study other side of the coin kind Regards Salam p.s:read about separatist movements around the world esp in third world countries to have better understanding of 1971 separation, Baluchistan unrest and Karachi valcano, causes and current complexities, just remember winning any election is very challenging task and public agar 30-40 yrs saay PPP/mqm koo  inspite of all negative campaign by E daay rahee haay tu koi reason hoo gee
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 08, 2015, 02:20:52 AM
See how PPP dacoits & NS move hand in hand in plundering the nation. Rs. Billion 21 project is completed in Rs. 81 Billion but still in problems. Govt still telling lies. They have forget their day of reckoning. Govt is sinking the nation to the worst depth due to his wrongdoings. Pls see the clip from Minute 23.33 & onwards: http://www.zemtv.com/2015/09/07/dunya-kamran-khan-kay-sath-pakistan-army-chief-says-ready-to-respond-to-enemys-misadventure-7th-september-2015/
Joo b criminal haay uss koo punish Karoo, complete agreement on that
But don't indulge in selective accountability otherwise pakland hell saay super hell may transform hoo  ga    :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on September 08, 2015, 11:33:22 AM
such bolna seekh rahaay haay :skeptic:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/09/07/saeed-azhar-analysis-on-mqm-situation/
Bhai Jan, This was the system's malfunctioning that kameenay had become respectables in Pakistan. Criminals were never punished which made them so powerful that they were killing even LEA on the roads, in their offices & where ever they wished they killed. Govt didn't move when ordinary peoples were being killed daily. Bastard mullahs, JI, LEJ, SSP, Mulla Diesel & other related mullahs; GEO TV & many more were the biggest supporters of terrorists. After APS, every thing changed. Now time has changed when Army took over the control. Obviously criminals & their masters will feel the pain which they are feeling. Feel the difference that both parties in Sind are running about to save themselves. Action against the cannibles have been startedin Punjab & Baluchistan too. Wish that article 245 is imposed in all Pak & summary trials starts which will bring the real change.   

Bro, I think u r either too young to understand what I am saying or u don't want to study other side of the coin kind Regards Salam p.s:read about separatist movements around the world esp in third world countries to have better understanding of 1971 separation, Baluchistan unrest and Karachi valcano, causes and current complexities, just remember winning any election is very challenging task and public agar 30-40 yrs saay PPP/mqm koo  inspite of all negative campaign by E daay rahee haay tu koi reason hoo gee
Bhai Jan; the Kameenays are respectable in Pak; just see the reason. Lack of justice & malfunction of institutions. When system don't punish, the masses;  60% of whom illiterate who are blind & deaf consider the kameenays as nice & good. Further because kameenay are criminals too; they suppress to get desired results in E & other fields. It is unfortunate that you quote Bangladesh but don't give weight to India, Russia & US role & how enemy was within too in every sector also. Nation should learn lessons & demand easy & quick justice. This is not a quick fix but the only solution. We could not expect radical & ideal changes overnight but long journey to justice should start. In other case; kameenay would continue to suck the nation as they have done in 69 years.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 08, 2015, 11:54:09 AM
such bolna seekh rahaay haay :skeptic:

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/09/07/saeed-azhar-analysis-on-mqm-situation/
Bhai Jan, This was the system's malfunctioning that kameenay had become respectables in Pakistan. Criminals were never punished which made them so powerful that they were killing even LEA on the roads, in their offices & where ever they wished they killed. Govt didn't move when ordinary peoples were being killed daily. Bastard mullahs, JI, LEJ, SSP, Mulla Diesel & other related mullahs; GEO TV & many more were the biggest supporters of terrorists. After APS, every thing changed. Now time has changed when Army took over the control. Obviously criminals & their masters will feel the pain which they are feeling. Feel the difference that both parties in Sind are running about to save themselves. Action against the cannibles have been startedin Punjab & Baluchistan too. Wish that article 245 is imposed in all Pak & summary trials starts which will bring the real change.   

Bro, I think u r either too young to understand what I am saying or u don't want to study other side of the coin kind Regards Salam p.s:read about separatist movements around the world esp in third world countries to have better understanding of 1971 separation, Baluchistan unrest and Karachi valcano, causes and current complexities, just remember winning any election is very challenging task and public agar 30-40 yrs saay PPP/mqm koo  inspite of all negative campaign by E daay rahee haay tu koi reason hoo gee
Bhai Jan; the Kameenays are respectable in Pak; just see the reason. Lack of justice & malfunction of institutions. When system don't punish, the masses;  60% of whom illiterate who are blind & deaf consider the kameenays as nice & good. Further because kameenay are criminals too; they suppress to get desired results in E & other fields. It is unfortunate that you quote Bangladesh but don't give weight to India, Russia & US role & how enemy was within too in every sector also. Nation should learn lessons & demand easy & quick justice. This is not a quick fix but the only solution. We could not expect radical & ideal changes overnight but long journey to justice should start. In other case; kameenay would continue to suck the nation as they have done in 69 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_or_the_egg
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Anam on September 09, 2015, 02:43:32 PM
(http://www.onlineindus.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Mumtaz.jpg)

LARKANA: Sindh National Front, chairman Mumtaz Bhutto on Wednesday has decided to quit the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N).
According to the sources, he would announce to join the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) next week.
Mumtaz Bhutto has restored his party Sindh National Front and summoned a meeting of its executive committee.

For further details just visit link blow
http://www.onlineindus.com/mumtaz-bhutto-decides-to-quit-pml-n-join-pti/ (http://www.onlineindus.com/mumtaz-bhutto-decides-to-quit-pml-n-join-pti/)
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: mehreenzafar on September 10, 2015, 01:18:43 PM
GOvernment ka kam hi logo ko pagal bnana he bas.








http://jobsworld.pk/ (http://jobsworld.pk/)
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on September 10, 2015, 06:14:49 PM
In 29 Mega cases in NAB with corruption of 500+ billion, only 1.8% are related to politicians, rest are by bureaucrats, businessmen and army
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on September 10, 2015, 06:38:23 PM
Unfortunately our young generation knows history as they are taught in textbooks and media which is controlled and manipulated. Results we never learn the lessons of history. Our history is full of lies and badly manipulated to present a certain view point and bury other facts under the carpet. If someone talks facts, he is easily declared traitor, anti Pakistan, Indian agent etc. Speaking truth in Pakistan amounts to willingness to vanish from the scene.

Those crying about corruption of Politician, I don't say they are angels, but it is a small fraction of total corruption. The more corrupt have immunity and no one can challenge their integrity. They are not audited.

Pakistan was made by politicians as a result of a political movement. Pakistan will prosper only under political regime. Those looking towards army must think twice. Army has remained in power for most of the time and yet the condition of Pakistan you all can see.

Ruling and managing country is not army's domain. They are not trained for it. Also they have a different mindset due to their training and social set up. The result is separatist movements always flourish in military rule.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on September 10, 2015, 06:43:18 PM
Sorry friends but honestly I don't like the language used by Alidxb. We must refrain from using bad and abusive language against any one even our enemies.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on September 10, 2015, 07:16:32 PM
Hate against politicians is due to their character. They are made guardian of the nation by the nation but how they acted? They became mother of all evils in Pakistan. When a Guard becomes a thief, what happens? The result is before us in shape of classic example of Pakistan's history of last 30 years. Even Justice is hostage to the powerful.
Can NS, Zardari, ANP  & MQM guys become billionare if justice prevailed?
Calling names of the bad is weaker form of Jihad; the weakest is that you consider bad as bad in your heart.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 10, 2015, 07:47:38 PM
In 29 Mega cases in NAB with corruption of 500+ billion, only 1.8% are related to politicians, rest are by bureaucrats, businessmen and army

This was for Deaf and Blind  :rtfm:but sootaay koo Jaga saktaay hoo but awaken koo koi nahi jaag sakta  :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 10, 2015, 10:14:31 PM
http://m.hindustantimes.com/comment/india-s-meat-bans-are-political-attempts-to-appease-the-hindu-majority-despite-the-secular-nature-of-our-constitution/article1-1389237.aspx
Now Indians enjoying their Zia UL haq  rule  :dunno:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on September 11, 2015, 12:04:37 PM
In 29 Mega cases in NAB with corruption of 500+ billion, only 1.8% are related to politicians, rest are by bureaucrats, businessmen and army
Who had the responsibility to save the nation from corruption & what hell they had done in last 8 years?
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 11, 2015, 02:53:44 PM
In 29 Mega cases in NAB with corruption of 500+ billion, only 1.8% are related to politicians, rest are by bureaucrats, businessmen and army
Who had the responsibility to save the nation from corruption & what hell they had done in last 8 years?

Sirf corruption do not lead to country breakup,
Pakistan has always appeared less divided under politicians :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 12, 2015, 01:02:29 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2015-daily/12-09-2015/u60790.htm

case of lacking vision (those who toppled him)
or mujhaay pak history saay mitana b chahoo tu mitaaaaaaaa
na sakooooo Gaay :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: SAM71 on September 12, 2015, 01:31:05 PM
I tend to agree with Salam bhai. Unfortunately for several hundred years wee have been ruled by might/danda- whether it was british raj or the khaki dispensation after independence. As a nation we love power/force and easily get impressed by those wielding the barrel of gun. We defy civilian authority but are always submissive before the khaki power.

 We need to learn from India which despite having similar history, legacy and baggage opted for civilian rule and is making progress under a civilian democratic dispensation. We need to change our sick mindset of loving wielders of physical power-- the sooner the better.

What is disappointing is the fact that even some of us (the priviliged ones) who had the opportunity to live in US want to be ruled by khakis in the name of corruption ignoring the fact that all institutions are equally sunk in corruption and corrupt practices with the difference that some are holy cows whom you (or the public or any one else) cannot question. Even in Pakistan the citizens have at least the privilige to criticize, humiliate, imprison, arrest and hold the civilian set up accountable. Thats the beauty of democracy/civilian rule. 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on September 12, 2015, 07:11:23 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2015-daily/12-09-2015/u60790.htm

case of lacking vision (those who toppled him)
or mujhaay pak history saay mitana b chahoo tu mitaaaaaaaa
na sakooooo Gaay :skeptic:
These are better than Indian Kanjar Khana being watched in every third household.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 12, 2015, 07:24:48 PM
http://tribune.com.pk/story/955329/imran-farooq-murder-case-killer-may-be-hiding-in-afghanistan-says-jit-member/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: ValueInvestor on September 12, 2015, 07:40:57 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2015-daily/12-09-2015/u60790.htm

case of lacking vision (those who toppled him)
or mujhaay pak history saay mitana b chahoo tu mitaaaaaaaa
na sakooooo Gaay :skeptic:
These are better than Indian Kanjar Khana being watched in every third household.

You are being generous. It is more like every household and some.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on September 12, 2015, 07:49:50 PM
They are much better; people go there at their own will & responsible for that. They don't make new generation orphan like so called contractor of Islam & democracy has made ( MQM & Mullah terrorists). They don't  ditch & sell the nation like our rulers did. Personal character as long as it don't harm others should not be the domain of state.  Dubai is 100 times place  better place than yours. Live & let live others; don't impose on others.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on September 12, 2015, 07:52:28 PM
Congrats to all of us:
Dacoits will reach their destination soon; this is good that it is not being done by Army, otherwise prejudiced people will find faults in it also.
http://www.express.pk/story/391136/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 13, 2015, 11:23:01 AM
http://m.hindustantimes.com/karanthapar/snatching-a-draw-from-the-jaws-of-victory-in-1965/article1-1389868.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on September 14, 2015, 10:52:09 AM
Pakistanis are so much used to impure food that will fall sick if they are given pure one now. They cannot digest pure diet. :$:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 15, 2015, 09:26:37 PM
[today at 04:10:26 pm] dehan: is khandan nein iktadar k lia kia kia kia
Dehan bhai,
pl enlighten me on this as well :thanks:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Dehan on September 15, 2015, 09:46:21 PM
[today at 04:10:26 pm] dehan: is khandan nein iktadar k lia kia kia kia
Dehan bhai,
pl enlighten me on this as well :thanks:
It means Bhutto family did every thing (hook or by crock) to get into power.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 15, 2015, 11:46:57 PM
[today at 04:10:26 pm] dehan: is khandan nein iktadar k lia kia kia kia
Dehan bhai,
pl enlighten me on this as well :thanks:
It means Bhutto family did every thing (hook or by crock) to get into power.
Sir,'
Khul kaar baat karaay like shahid masood but with Sama tv Nadeem Malik integrity and conviction pl warna fazool maay left shoulder walaay koo takleef na daay  :rtfm:







http://www.zemtv.com/2015/09/15/live-with-dr-shahid-masood-15th-september-2015/





http://www.zemtv.com/2015/09/15/live-with-dr-shahid-masood-15th-september-2015/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on September 16, 2015, 10:36:42 AM
[today at 04:10:26 pm] dehan: is khandan nein iktadar k lia kia kia kia
Dehan bhai,
pl enlighten me on this as well :thanks:
It means Bhutto family did every thing (hook or by crock) to get into power.
Power/Politics mean a source of illegal money in Pak. Every ruler party did that. Look MQM, PPP, NS, ML-Q; Mullah Diesel etc. Nobody was honest; they were criminals & public wants to their dead bodies on the roads like terrorists killed innocent civilians on the roads.
They have raised Special Police Elite forces just to protect themselves. PPP & MQM  nexus in last 8 years was the worst crime in our history. Justice has not just started. Just look what other nations did in such circumstances & we need to do that; e.g China, Iran, Singapore, Saudia did that etc.  Death for all major crimes through summary trials.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 16, 2015, 05:10:01 PM
SHAHBAZ  saay bana BAZ and than SHAH and now on his way back to shahbaz  :bangin:




http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2015-daily/16-09-2015/col6.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 17, 2015, 01:56:51 AM
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/09/16/on-the-front-16th-september-2015/
Second half more interesting
God bless mush for  :tongue:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 17, 2015, 10:32:53 AM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2015-daily/17-09-2015/col1.htm :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 17, 2015, 10:42:13 AM
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-2-340794-Musharraf-govt-awarded-Nandipur-but-not-being-probed
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on September 17, 2015, 11:20:40 AM
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-2-340794-Musharraf-govt-awarded-Nandipur-but-not-being-probed
All of the three Governments are responsible. Punish all of the responsible criminals & make an example.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 17, 2015, 11:45:17 AM
Risk takers sirf INDIA-PAKISTAN maay nahi bastaay :rtfm:
inn loogoo k qurb ki garmi and bay-panah energy German winter koo
b mild kaar daay Gee :skeptic:
another story of human determination and courage
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-17/syrian-lawyer-becomes-janitor-as-germany-puts-refugees-to-work
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 17, 2015, 12:19:14 PM
media ka kaam  :crying_anim02:
turn mole into an eye catching mountain :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/fox-news-tells-emily-blunt-to-leave-hollywood-for-joking-about-her-new-us-citizenship-10503491.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 20, 2015, 09:40:52 PM
laay maal or laoo maal alidxb :confused1:
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2015-daily/20-09-2015/col4.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 21, 2015, 12:46:05 PM
laay maal or laoo maal alidxb :confused1:
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2015-daily/20-09-2015/col4.htm

http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2015-daily/21-09-2015/col1.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 21, 2015, 11:29:30 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2015-daily/21-09-2015/u61643.htm
he saw javed miandad in action in 1996 world cup but still name missing
from his selected 11  :laugh:
warne b tu insan ka bachaa haay :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 26, 2015, 03:59:04 PM
Abb D koo dismantle karna not so easy,
junta less fearful and tasted free media


http://www.zemtv.com/2015/09/25/jugnu-25th-september-2015/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 28, 2015, 01:25:10 AM
When u read both reviews, it's fairly obvious junta koo Saab mil last daily and in every area ullo bana-yaaaa
Jata haay probably for centuries  ::)


http://tribune.com.pk/story/962192/will-jawani-phir-nahi-ani-hit-the-300m-mark/


http://www.bbc.com/urdu/entertainment/2015/09/150921_jawani_phir_nahi_aani_review_rh
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 28, 2015, 02:01:07 AM
few very powerful observations :skeptic:
likely to b completely ignored by both parties :(


http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the-evil-empire-of-saudi-arabia-is-the-west-s-real-enemy-a6669531.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 28, 2015, 11:21:42 AM
laooooo maal k :skeptic:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2015-daily/28-09-2015/col3.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on September 28, 2015, 12:33:40 PM
few very powerful observations :skeptic:
likely to b completely ignored by both parties :(


http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the-evil-empire-of-saudi-arabia-is-the-west-s-real-enemy-a6669531.html
Fully agree with the contents.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 28, 2015, 11:35:09 PM
laooooo maal k :skeptic:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2015-daily/28-09-2015/col3.htm
lagta haay new look mqm will b first one to welcome khakis agar unfortunately
aisaa huwa :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 29, 2015, 02:05:56 AM
For space/ other members views :skeptic:

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Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 29, 2015, 12:39:04 PM
Pakland maay abhi D boohat Weak and Young haay :rtfm:
tinka tinka gather kaar k D aati haay but taiz wind ka aik hee jhonka
usually dismantle it  :crying_anim02:,
Dharna failure was 1 exception in pak history :skeptic:

The Labour leader will also hint at the possibility of using the activists who support him to outflank his members of parliament.
“The huge mandate I have been given by the 59 percent of our electorate who supported me is a mandate for change,” he’ll say. “It was a vote for change in the way we do politics, in the Labour Party and the country. Bottom up, not top down.”
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 30, 2015, 12:48:11 PM
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/09/29/live-with-dr-shahid-masood-29th-september/


90% of time spent on discrediting Nawaz Sharif for second consecutive day :skeptic:
lagta haay secret polls indicated Shahbaz remains popular in punjab :tongue:


Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 30, 2015, 01:22:38 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2015-daily/30-09-2015/col7.htm :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on September 30, 2015, 08:06:57 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2015-daily/30-09-2015/u62350.htm
Good move, pml N will now b relieved their candidate couldn't muster enough support in senate chairman election
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: siama naaz on October 03, 2015, 04:51:56 PM
Onlineindusnews.net online urdu news pakistan (http://www.onlineindusnews.net) provides in pakistan, including online urdu breaking news, online urdu current news, online urdu top headlines in Pakistan

LAHORE: Administrator judge of the Lahore High Court’s (LHC) anti-terrorism special court on Saturday has directed to arrest all the proclaimed offenders across Punjab.

According to details, a meeting of Punjab’s 14 ATCs presided over by Justice Mahmood Maqbool Bajwa was held in LHC and was attended by judges, regional police officers (RPOs) of all districts, prosecutor general Punjab and investigation officers.

Progress report regarding the criminals involved in heinous crimes was presented in the meeting.

On this occasion, Justice Mahmood Maqbool Bajwa ordered the police to arrest all the proclaimed offenders and issued directions to implement strict ban on mobile use in jails. The judge also summoned report on the next hearing.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 03, 2015, 07:32:29 PM
Total Failure:
http://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan/2015/10/151001_nawaz_un_wusat_ra.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 04, 2015, 05:20:19 PM
what a fall :o

http://tribune.com.pk/story/966946/startling-disclosures-pti-received-funds-from-jewish-indian-lobbies/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 04, 2015, 05:27:29 PM
life is indeed a journey full of twists and turns but only for minority :rtfm:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/966751/who-is-afraid-of-husain-haqqani/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 04, 2015, 08:33:41 PM
Total Failure:
http://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan/2015/10/151001_nawaz_un_wusat_ra.

http://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan/2015/10/151004_baat_se_baat_as
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Dehan on October 04, 2015, 08:53:35 PM
Total Failure:
http://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan/2015/10/151001_nawaz_un_wusat_ra.

http://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan/2015/10/151004_baat_se_baat_as
Pehli baar aik achay andaz mein Pakistan ka case paish kia gia. India isolation ka shakar nazar aa reha ha international level pa. Aur dunia ko ahsas dilia gia ka dehshatgarti India kar reha ha Pkistan to khood dehshat ghardi ka shikar ha. Jaty jaty Raheel sharif b UK ko sona aia k ap b dehshat ghardoon ki support band karain.

BBC k reporter ko ye baat hazam nahi ho pa rehi bas apna khusa nikal rehay hain bichay.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 04, 2015, 10:08:42 PM
Total Failure:
http://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan/2015/10/151001_nawaz_un_wusat_ra.

http://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan/2015/10/151004_baat_se_baat_as
Pehli baar aik achay andaz mein Pakistan ka case paish kia gia. India isolation ka shakar nazar aa reha ha international level pa. Aur dunia ko ahsas dilia gia ka dehshatgarti India kar reha ha Pkistan to khood dehshat ghardi ka shikar ha. Jaty jaty Raheel sharif b UK ko sona aia k ap b dehshat ghardoon ki support band karain.

BBC k reporter ko ye baat hazam nahi ho pa rehi bas apna khusa nikal rehay hain bichay.
Sir jee,
i think u missed his message  :skeptic:
like pak courts, at UN case/arguments strong hona not sufficient , case jeetnaay k liay judge aur jury members koo khush b karna parta haay joo iss baar b pakistan nahi kaar saka :(
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 04, 2015, 10:22:55 PM
lagta haay india ki self destruction ka tiem qareeb haay :rtfm:
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/muzaffarnagar-riots-accused-sangeet-som-visits-dadri/article7722943.ece?w=alauto
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 05, 2015, 01:26:51 AM
lagta haay india ki self destruction ka tiem qareeb haay :rtfm:
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/muzaffarnagar-riots-accused-sangeet-som-visits-dadri/article7722943.ece?w=alauto
Right move :fingerscrossed1:
http://m.hindustantimes.com/noida/in-peace-move-bisada-villagers-assure-safety-to-ikhlaq-s-family/story-snrZnxaxDO4SEEHljFMauL.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 05, 2015, 01:28:57 AM
This is called "down play in National interest " :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:


http://mobile..com/2015/10/04/world/asia/afghanistan-bombing-hospital-doctors-without-borders-kunduz.html?emc=edit_th_20151004&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=63742525&referer=
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 05, 2015, 01:30:58 AM
This is called "down play in National interest " :bangin: :bangin: :bangin:


http://mobile..com/2015/10/04/world/asia/afghanistan-bombing-hospital-doctors-without-borders-kunduz.html?emc=edit_th_20151004&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=63742525&referer=


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/10/04/world/asia/afghanistan-bombing-hospital-doctors-without-borders-kunduz.html?emc=edit_th_20151004&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=63742525&referer=
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 05, 2015, 10:34:14 AM
How PM of a  beggar nation is spending hard earned tax money:
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103101529&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151005 huhu
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 05, 2015, 10:41:42 AM
Benazir was the first politician who laid grounds for corruption in Pak politics after Zia era & nation could not get rid of it despite many successive governments were sacked on corruption allegations. Slogan of "Accountability" is still selling fast.
Look how misguided is Malala for whom a corrupt ex Pm is her ideal. Shame!!!
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103101524&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151005
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 05, 2015, 10:49:00 AM
If casting of fake votes & security of genuine votes is ensured; NS will loose badly in NA 122.
http://dailypakistan.com.pk/lahore/04-Oct-2015/274414
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 05, 2015, 10:59:21 AM
Look at the poor mentality of NS.  He could not visualize the importance of merit in PSO, PIAA, SNGP, SSGC, PS etc but spending millions on cheap propaganda compaign to tout the merit in immaterial appointments of clerks etc.
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103101519&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151005
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 05, 2015, 11:56:16 PM
How PM of a  beggar nation is spending hard earned tax money:
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103101529&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151005 huhu
Bhai,
V not living under Khulfa-e-Rashdeen :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 06, 2015, 12:01:33 AM
Look at the poor mentality of NS.  He could not visualize the importance of merit in PSO, PIAA, SNGP, SSGC, PS etc but spending millions on cheap propaganda compaign to tout the merit in immaterial appointments of clerks etc.
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103101519&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151005

Sir ji,
On merit current COAS koo appoint nahi hona chahaiayee tha :bangin:
Gora na banaay pl,
Apna favourite hoo tu pragmatism is justified but opponent hoo tu pragmatism becomes opportunism  :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 06, 2015, 12:05:06 AM
Benazir was the first politician who laid grounds for corruption in Pak politics after Zia era & nation could not get rid of it despite many successive governments were sacked on corruption allegations. Slogan of "Accountability" is still selling fast.
Look how misguided is Malala for whom a corrupt ex Pm is her ideal. Shame!!!
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103101524&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151005
Respectable and credible sources  agree v saw worst cases of corruption under zia and mush
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 06, 2015, 07:27:12 PM
Ghardari hijacked PPP & indulged in  corruption valuing to Trillions of Rupees which wrer siphoned to UAE. NS promised to punish but later under pressure from US, UK & UAE; who were the mentors & masters of that worst corrupt political Govt; backed off & now busy himself in destroying the economy. People like me hate NS only for his broken promises on Accountability & Merit. The only plus point of NS is that he allowed army kill terrorists in Karachi & rest of Pakistan.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 08, 2015, 02:47:36 AM
90% of time imran talking Rubbish, no solid baat on policies or reasons for failure to
deliver in kp :laugh:
But History may still b kind to him because common man is now better informed  about
his Rights, Good Governance through better selection in elections and bringing politicians
corruption and incompetence in the limelight :thanks:
pml N is visibly shaken and has to change before the next General election otherwise
election haar b sakti haay  :good
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/10/06/on-the-front-6th-october/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 08, 2015, 10:59:24 AM
West strength :rtfm:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world/harvard-s-famed-debate-team-loses-to-new-york-prison-inmates/story-MoG9lwjNkICBAGOnHuyynK.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 08, 2015, 07:42:23 PM
Justice is never fully delivered. Mullah who instigated him to murder would never be caught; This is lovely Pak.
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103106991&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151008
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 08, 2015, 07:49:26 PM
NS Govt is loyal to our enemy but not Pak Industry. Recently, among many other items which are excluded from negative lists & surcharge also waived off, include Textiles & Readymade Garments too.
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103106099&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151008
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 08, 2015, 08:08:00 PM
NS Govt is loyal to our enemy but not Pak Industry. Recently, among many other items which are excluded from negative lists & surcharge also waived off, include Textiles & Readymade Garments too.
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103106099&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151008
Shahbaz got cancer, nawaz came close to dyeing during angioplasty-Both brother now doing politics for power not for money Baqi dil ka Haal surf Allah janta haay  :rtfm:
Can't say same about Hamza or maryum  :tongue:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Dehan on October 08, 2015, 08:14:37 PM
NS Govt is loyal to our enemy but not Pak Industry. Recently, among many other items which are excluded from negative lists & surcharge also waived off, include Textiles & Readymade Garments too.
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103106099&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151008
Cpec is a game changer for Pakistan.
Cpec ki rah mein roray atkanein walay mulk dushmanon ka sathi hain.
Agar NS aisa kar reha ha to phir to certificate Pakka ho gia.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: ValueInvestor on October 08, 2015, 08:48:10 PM
NS Govt is loyal to our enemy but not Pak Industry. Recently, among many other items which are excluded from negative lists & surcharge also waived off, include Textiles & Readymade Garments too.
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103106099&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151008
Shahbaz got cancer, nawaz came close to dyeing during angioplasty-Both brother now doing politics for power not for money Baqi dil ka Haal surf Allah janta haay  :rtfm:
Can't say same about Hamza or maryum  :tongue:

@Salammembers - "-Both brother now doing politics for power not for money...."
As they would say at the Ranch; "Let me put my boots on before I will believe that".

 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: ValueInvestor on October 09, 2015, 12:16:02 AM
Justice is never fully delivered. Mullah who instigated him to murder would never be caught; This is lovely Pak.
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103106991&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151008


I would just like to full fill his desire to be Martyr. So he can meet the "Hoors"; who are waiting for him. Please don't delay his meeting with them anymore.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 09, 2015, 09:57:43 AM
NS Govt is loyal to our enemy but not Pak Industry. Recently, among many other items which are excluded from negative lists & surcharge also waived off, include Textiles & Readymade Garments too.
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103106099&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151008
Shahbaz got cancer, nawaz came close to dyeing during angioplasty-Both brother now doing politics for power not for money Baqi dil ka Haal surf Allah janta haay  :rtfm:
Can't say same about Hamza or maryum  :tongue:
Bhai Jan Hamza is as big lanaty as was Ghardari. He is skimming billions from Land grabbings which are sold to Govt projects later at market rates. :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 09, 2015, 10:03:08 AM
Justice is never fully delivered. Mullah who instigated him to murder would never be caught; This is lovely Pak.
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103106991&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151008


I would just like to full fill his desire to be Martyr. So he can meet the "Hoors"; who are waiting for him. Please don't delay his meeting with them anymore.
Bhai Jan this terrorism will not end until master minds are killed. Just look how many 100s of minority people have been killed in Punjab on instigation by Masjid Mullahs openly using loudspeaker in last 10 years. This happened repeatedly but mullahs who drove the mob are never caught.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 09, 2015, 12:08:30 PM
NS Govt is loyal to our enemy but not Pak Industry. Recently, among many other items which are excluded from negative lists & surcharge also waived off, include Textiles & Readymade Garments too.
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103106099&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151008
Shahbaz got cancer, nawaz came close to dyeing during angioplasty-Both brother now doing politics for power not for money Baqi dil ka Haal surf Allah janta haay  :rtfm:
Can't say same about Hamza or maryum  :tongue:
Bhai Jan Hamza is as big lanaty as was Ghardari. He is skimming billions from Land grabbings which are sold to Govt projects later at market rates. :skeptic:
Hamza shakal saay hee baadmash lagta haay baqi like his father he cannot b content with 1 wife :tongue:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 10, 2015, 06:58:49 PM
NS Govt is loyal to our enemy but not Pak Industry. Recently, among many other items which are excluded from negative lists & surcharge also waived off, include Textiles & Readymade Garments too.
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103106099&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151008
Shahbaz got cancer, nawaz came close to dyeing during angioplasty-Both brother now doing politics for power not for money Baqi dil ka Haal surf Allah janta haay  :rtfm:
Can't say same about Hamza or maryum  :tongue:

@Salammembers - "-Both brother now doing politics for power not for money...."
As they would say at the Ranch; "Let me put my boots on before I will believe that".
Majority of humans fail to recognise their limitations while alive, post death ka no idea👀
Those interested can view programme from minute 20 onwards for 8 minutes though whole programme is enjoyable

http://www.zemtv.com/2015/10/10/khabardar-with-aftab-iqbal-on-express-news-9th-october-2015/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 10, 2015, 07:30:41 PM
Importer Mafia is very strong & powerful in Pakistan. They get fiscal & trade policies according to their wishes by greasing palms of politicians & bureaucrates which have made Pak a consumption economy. Traders have literally killed the local industry before its birth.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 10, 2015, 10:40:17 PM
Punjab power :rtfm:


http://www.bbc.com/urdu/sport/2015/10/151010_salman_asif_wapda_team_zh
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 11, 2015, 12:12:21 PM
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/national/11-Oct-2015/lion-faces-bat-in-by-polls-today :tongue:

Chaudary Sarwar has managed to make his mark :rtfm:
Good addition to pak politics  :biggthumpup:
such fierce and closely monitored election good for pak D :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 11, 2015, 06:19:50 PM
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/opportunist-or-rockstar-owaisi-recasting-muslim-politics-in-india/story-b01NPeoH46yXRfUq5UOUSO.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 11, 2015, 06:27:27 PM
abhi tu party shroo hoi haay bhai :skeptic:

http://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan/2015/10/151011_baat_se_baat_zh
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 12, 2015, 01:04:47 AM
vote power or power addiction :skeptic:

http://www.bbc.com/urdu/regional/2015/10/151010_bjp_change_tone_in_bihar_mb
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Dehan on October 12, 2015, 10:40:10 AM
Jhoot, Bohatan, Gheebat, Thumka, Dhaandli ka raag aur Dharna ki siasat k taboot mein akri keel 122 baar thook dia gia ha:  huhu  huhu  huhu

Lets come and joint hands for development of Pakistan.  :console:  :console:  :console:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on October 12, 2015, 05:08:23 PM
For IK the road to premiership passes through KPK and not through bad mouthing and allegations. The sooner he realises the better for him. Voter is not that stupid as these politicians assume. Performance matters and voters are judge.

In this election again we could see whole media in PTI favour but could not fool the voters. Media managers also failed.

Now both PTI and PMLN should focus on deliverance. The party who performs better will have my vote and millions like me.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 13, 2015, 01:47:56 AM
Reminds me about ahmed raza kasuri kala paint on face :rtfm:
but if that  was qudrat ka insaf tu iss case maay blackened face
wala can be justifiably called extremely brave and a real life hero :skeptic:


http://www.hindustantimes.com/columns/modi-s-global-image-under-threat-by-the-rise-of-an-intolerant-india/story-7q4pftmOzmp0qADirU5aXI.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 14, 2015, 02:16:18 AM
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103114746&Issue=NP_KHI&Date=20151013

 :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 14, 2015, 06:27:27 AM
COAS biggest achievement  todate :skeptic:
Lal topi wala deafening silence  since his return from KSA ;)

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-38365-Saudi-court-sentences-Lal-Topi-Wala-for-eight-year-jail-1000-lashes
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 14, 2015, 11:30:36 PM
Pak politics shlowly evolving to less Bol Bachan and more delivery focused but abhi atleast 2 more elections khappay for more obvious results


http://www.zemtv.com/2015/10/14/see-what-hamza-shahbaz-did-with-his-own-worker/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 16, 2015, 10:16:42 PM
A classic example of real face of our prosecution & judiciary.
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103121602&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151016
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 16, 2015, 10:23:21 PM
Thanks; cat is out the bag: This is the real face of so called leaders:
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103121617&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151016
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 16, 2015, 10:39:24 PM
For Pak Fake Democracy lovers:
Do you ever see personality promotion compaign of this magnitude in any civilized country??
Yes it happens daily in our country. See front & main page advertisements with public money just to promote the damn personalities.
For these stupid fake leaders  "wheel will be re-invented by them as they believe, "Words speak louder than deeds".  :bangin: :bangin:
1.http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103121596&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151016
2. http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103121741&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151016
3. http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103121740&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151016.

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 17, 2015, 02:49:14 AM
conviction politics :rtfm:


http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103121839&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151016
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 17, 2015, 12:30:32 PM
Pak is a longitudinal country. Freight & human traffic moves between both South & North ends. This natural alignment is best suited for railways.
Do you know when downfall of railways started & when it reached the peak of destruction?
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 17, 2015, 12:40:05 PM
Cursing the devil rulers is good:
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103123878&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151017
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 17, 2015, 02:52:56 PM
http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2015-daily/17-10-2015/col5.htm :fingerscrossed1:
last para for NS fans :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 17, 2015, 02:59:17 PM
for Danda Pir FANS :rtfm:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2015-daily/17-10-2015/col3.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 17, 2015, 07:36:28 PM
last 2 lines for IK :rtfm:


http://www.bbc.com/urdu/regional/2015/10/151017_doosra_pehlu_cow_intolerance_sz
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 17, 2015, 07:48:11 PM
for Danda Pir FANS :rtfm:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2015-daily/17-10-2015/col3.htm
Real classic , exceptional column :biggthumpup:
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 17, 2015, 08:26:48 PM
for Danda Pir FANS :rtfm:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2015-daily/17-10-2015/col3.htm
Real classic , exceptional column :biggthumpup:
Your confusion would vanish in next elections. The writer is biased against PTI only like Arshad Sharif; vested interests speaks of itself.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 18, 2015, 12:22:52 PM
How Nawaz Butt is spending our tax money on cheap & mean personal promotion:
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103125729&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151018
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 18, 2015, 01:44:48 PM
for Danda Pir FANS :rtfm:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2015-daily/17-10-2015/col3.htm
Real classic , exceptional column :biggthumpup:
Your confusion would vanish in next elections. The writer is biased against PTI only like Arshad Sharif; vested interests speaks of itself.
bro,
u r either not well informed or too young,
comparing him with arshad sharif is like a Gali :rtfm:
pl do some background research before responding to these kind of messages :thanks:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 18, 2015, 01:46:08 PM
published in newyork times :skeptic:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/18/world/middleeast/in-east-jerusalem-palestinians-are-seething-after-years-of-neglect.html?emc=edit_th_20151018&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=63742525&_r=0
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 18, 2015, 05:08:45 PM
esp for my dearest  friend alidxb  :rtfm:

http://www.newslinemagazine.com/2014/11/a-lovers-quarrel/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 18, 2015, 05:30:42 PM
for Danda Pir FANS :rtfm:

http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2015-daily/17-10-2015/col3.htm
Real classic , exceptional column :biggthumpup:
Your confusion would vanish in next elections. The writer is biased against PTI only like Arshad Sharif; vested interests speaks of itself.
bro,
u r either not well informed or too young,
comparing him with arshad sharif is like a Gali :rtfm:
pl do some background research before responding to these kind of messages :thanks:
Sir,
Everyone is free to have its likes & dislikes. Regarding this column writer; which may be an authority for one but may be a yellow journalist for the other.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 18, 2015, 05:41:09 PM
esp for my dearest  friend alidxb  :rtfm:

http://www.newslinemagazine.com/2014/11/a-lovers-quarrel/
No body can become like ZAB; party was hijacked after his death & was finally crushed by Zardari (Curse be upon him). Zardari cannot be forgiven for the sins he committed against the nation & people had given verdict against him already. Now the law of land would take its due course & send him to his righteous place.
Bilawal/Aisfa has the one way only to revive the party which they would not take; i.e; denounce Zardari & return all plundered wealth to this nation. It is very difficult to do but it may set a very good precedence & moral pressure on other likes Nawaz Butt; Altaf Bhatta Wala & others to return the public money. Pak Zindabad.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 18, 2015, 06:47:32 PM
esp for my dearest  friend alidxb  :rtfm:

http://www.newslinemagazine.com/2014/11/a-lovers-quarrel/
No body can become like ZAB; party was hijacked after his death & was finally crushed by Zardari (Curse be upon him). Zardari cannot be forgiven for the sins he committed against the nation & people had given verdict against him already. Now the law of land would take its due course & send him to his righteous place.
Bilawal/Aisfa has the one way only to revive the party which they would not take; i.e; denounce Zardari & return all plundered wealth to this nation. It is very difficult to do but it may set a very good precedence & moral pressure on other likes Nawaz Butt; Altaf Bhatta Wala & others to return the public money. Pak Zindabad.
altaf bhatta wala :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 20, 2015, 11:22:03 AM
Khadam-e Aala:
http://herald.dawn.com/news/1153275/satire-diary-of-shahbaz-sharif
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 20, 2015, 12:08:36 PM
Pak is a longitudinal country. Freight & human traffic moves between both South & North ends. This natural alignment is best suited for railways.
Do you know when downfall of railways started & when it reached the peak of destruction?
Zia Ul Haq laid foundations to dig the very roots of Railways by appointing people based on caste or other vested interests. Transporters gathered around him who destroyed railways for their personal gains. This compaign reached its climax when Zardari came to power who put the last nail in the coffin.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on October 20, 2015, 04:03:17 PM
Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif remains the most trusted leader with an Approval Rating of 75%

http://www.pildat.org/eventsdel.asp?detid=800

History of PTI. Survey supports PMLN. Surveys are false and paid. Election. PMLN wins. Survey proved correct. Allegation of dhandli. Again survey support PMLN. Election proves survey. Survey are paid and false. and so on.

My observation is that mostly PMLN vote is intact but Jiala disappointed with PPP has joined PTI. That is why the party exhibits same jiala culture. At least in my circle of family and friends, all PTI supporters are ex-PPP supporters. Hating NS is in their blood. They will find fault with every good deed of PMLN. As IK has also disappointed them up to some extent, their new hero is Raheel Shareef.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 20, 2015, 05:36:09 PM
66% of total voters are still floating. NS could take that majority vote if he revamps Police; Judiciary, other bueaurocracy  & conducts merciless/harsh accountability.
Expectation on this count are very low as his past is also not blotted & he has to obey his masters who keep him away from taking action against the worst corrupt Zardari & Co.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on October 21, 2015, 11:09:14 AM
You see the beauty of democracy. PPP completed its 5 years without performance (and with corruption) but what voter did to it. What is its standing now. Voter took its revenge in general elections. Had their tenure been toppled, they would again be mazloom and reclaim their vote on sympathy basis as PPP has done in past. Same applies to PMLN and PTI in their respective areas of Government.

People of Pakistan are not dumb. Change cannot come overnight. It is a gradual and slow process. Important is that travel is in right direction. The time however can be shortened by good leadership. But every one cannot be Jinnah or Gandhi. People like them are born in centuries and greatness is often thrust upon them due to circumstances.

The path to power of PTI passes through KPK and not through dhandli allegations or dharna. The sooner IK realises it, the better it is for PTI and IK. Otherwise this party will be reduced to a pressure group from a political alternative. Already many see IK as another Asghar Khan and PTI as Tehrik-e-Istaqlal.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 21, 2015, 07:49:10 PM
Yeh asal taay Khalis E ka Banda lagta hAay :tongue:


http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2015-daily/21-10-2015/col2.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 21, 2015, 09:41:22 PM
You see the beauty of democracy. PPP completed its 5 years without performance (and with corruption) but what voter did to it. What is its standing now. Voter took its revenge in general elections. Had their tenure been toppled, they would again be mazloom and reclaim their vote on sympathy basis as PPP has done in past. Same applies to PMLN and PTI in their respective areas of Government.

People of Pakistan are not dumb. Change cannot come overnight. It is a gradual and slow process. Important is that travel is in right direction. The time however can be shortened by good leadership. But every one cannot be Jinnah or Gandhi. People like them are born in centuries and greatness is often thrust upon them due to circumstances.

The path to power of PTI passes through KPK and not through dhandli allegations or dharna. The sooner IK realises it, the better it is for PTI and IK. Otherwise this party will be reduced to a pressure group from a political alternative. Already many see IK as another Asghar Khan and PTI as Tehrik-e-Istaqlal.
The perception of accountability through voting is very funny. PPP has ruined the nation every time they came to power; what voters did? Pakistanis are dumb & deaf; they voted the worst/corrupt man to power & what hell he did to Pak. World powers had unleashed proxy war on us; civilians  were being killed on the roads from Karachi to Khyber, Quetta & Lahore and he was busy in minting trillions through corruption via his front men. So punishment through judiciary/military courts is the solution but not through the vote.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on October 22, 2015, 05:37:44 PM
You see the beauty of democracy. PPP completed its 5 years without performance (and with corruption) but what voter did to it. What is its standing now. Voter took its revenge in general elections. Had their tenure been toppled, they would again be mazloom and reclaim their vote on sympathy basis as PPP has done in past. Same applies to PMLN and PTI in their respective areas of Government.

People of Pakistan are not dumb. Change cannot come overnight. It is a gradual and slow process. Important is that travel is in right direction. The time however can be shortened by good leadership. But every one cannot be Jinnah or Gandhi. People like them are born in centuries and greatness is often thrust upon them due to circumstances.

The path to power of PTI passes through KPK and not through dhandli allegations or dharna. The sooner IK realises it, the better it is for PTI and IK. Otherwise this party will be reduced to a pressure group from a political alternative. Already many see IK as another Asghar Khan and PTI as Tehrik-e-Istaqlal.
The perception of accountability through voting is very funny. PPP has ruined the nation every time they came to power; what voters did? Pakistanis are dumb & deaf; they voted the worst/corrupt man to power & what hell he did to Pak. World powers had unleashed proxy war on us; civilians  were being killed on the roads from Karachi to Khyber, Quetta & Lahore and he was busy in minting trillions through corruption via his front men. So punishment through judiciary/military courts is the solution but not through the vote.

What voter did to PPP. Cant you see? It was establishment that provided the opportunity to PPP to come to power again and again. Every time PPP making its voters believe that they are being victimised. They completed just one tenure and are out of game. Next elections may see PPP reduced to Larkana only on the basis of their performance in Sindh.
Only mature democracy can deliver the fruits associated with it. A crippled democracy cannot. If the democratic system continues, we will see revival of Pakistan as a prosperous, peaceful and respectable state.
All my bets are on democracy. It is almost my religion.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: IQ on October 22, 2015, 05:54:06 PM
You see the beauty of democracy......

The perception of accountability through voting is very funny. PPP has ruined the nation every time they came to power; what voters did? Pakistanis are dumb & deaf; they voted the worst/corrupt man to power .....

Please don't generalise. This is an insult to whole nation. Pakistan is a beautiful country of wonderful people. They can be simple but not dumb. Further Pakistan came in to existence as a result of political struggle. These people voted for Jinnah and for Pakistan in 1946. They have been tricked by lies of Politicians, Army and bureaucracy. As individual Pakistani are performing in every field in different parts of world. It is the system that makes them handicapped. Once the system becomes better, Pakistan will flourish and Pakistani have capacity to outperform most nations in world. Just continuation of democracy and a little patience. I believe my children will live in a better Pakistan.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 22, 2015, 09:00:35 PM
You see the beauty of democracy. PPP completed its 5 years without performance (and with corruption) but what voter did to it. What is its standing now. Voter took its revenge in general elections. Had their tenure been toppled, they would again be mazloom and reclaim their vote on sympathy basis as PPP has done in past. Same applies to PMLN and PTI in their respective areas of Government.

People of Pakistan are not dumb. Change cannot come overnight. It is a gradual and slow process. Important is that travel is in right direction. The time however can be shortened by good leadership. But every one cannot be Jinnah or Gandhi. People like them are born in centuries and greatness is often thrust upon them due to circumstances.

The path to power of PTI passes through KPK and not through dhandli allegations or dharna. The sooner IK realises it, the better it is for PTI and IK. Otherwise this party will be reduced to a pressure group from a political alternative. Already many see IK as another Asghar Khan and PTI as Tehrik-e-Istaqlal.
The perception of accountability through voting is very funny. PPP has ruined the nation every time they came to power; what voters did? Pakistanis are dumb & deaf; they voted the worst/corrupt man to power & what hell he did to Pak. World powers had unleashed proxy war on us; civilians  were being killed on the roads from Karachi to Khyber, Quetta & Lahore and he was busy in minting trillions through corruption via his front men. So punishment through judiciary/military courts is the solution but not through the vote.

What voter did to PPP. Cant you see? It was establishment that provided the opportunity to PPP to come to power again and again. Every time PPP making its voters believe that they are being victimised. They completed just one tenure and are out of game. Next elections may see PPP reduced to Larkana only on the basis of their performance in Sindh.
Only mature democracy can deliver the fruits associated with it. A crippled democracy cannot. If the democratic system continues, we will see revival of Pakistan as a prosperous, peaceful and respectable state.
All my bets are on democracy. It is almost my religion.
Bro I am not against democracy which is the best system. I dislike the current lot of fake democrats because they don't believe in Justice. Mother of all evils for us is the lack of cruel justice. They cannot dispense justice as they are themselves involved in all types of heinous crime. This is a vicious circle which nation cannot break. So some sort of adhoc arrangement is needed whereby big criminals could be eliminated. These tugs have deprived the nation progress of the last 6 decades  & trillions of Rupees siphoned out of Pakistan.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 24, 2015, 03:44:56 PM
You see the beauty of democracy. PPP completed its 5 years without performance (and with corruption) but what voter did to it. What is its standing now. Voter took its revenge in general elections. Had their tenure been toppled, they would again be mazloom and reclaim their vote on sympathy basis as PPP has done in past. Same applies to PMLN and PTI in their respective areas of Government.

People of Pakistan are not dumb. Change cannot come overnight. It is a gradual and slow process. Important is that travel is in right direction. The time however can be shortened by good leadership. But every one cannot be Jinnah or Gandhi. People like them are born in centuries and greatness is often thrust upon them due to circumstances.

The path to power of PTI passes through KPK and not through dhandli allegations or dharna. The sooner IK realises it, the better it is for PTI and IK. Otherwise this party will be reduced to a pressure group from a political alternative. Already many see IK as another Asghar Khan and PTI as Tehrik-e-Istaqlal.
The perception of accountability through voting is very funny. PPP has ruined the nation every time they came to power; what voters did? Pakistanis are dumb & deaf; they voted the worst/corrupt man to power & what hell he did to Pak. World powers had unleashed proxy war on us; civilians  were being killed on the roads from Karachi to Khyber, Quetta & Lahore and he was busy in minting trillions through corruption via his front men. So punishment through judiciary/military courts is the solution but not through the vote.

What voter did to PPP. Cant you see? It was establishment that provided the opportunity to PPP to come to power again and again. Every time PPP making its voters believe that they are being victimised. They completed just one tenure and are out of game. Next elections may see PPP reduced to Larkana only on the basis of their performance in Sindh.
Only mature democracy can deliver the fruits associated with it. A crippled democracy cannot. If the democratic system continues, we will see revival of Pakistan as a prosperous, peaceful and respectable state.
All my bets are on democracy. It is almost my religion.
Bro I am not against democracy which is the best system. I dislike the current lot of fake democrats because they don't believe in Justice. Mother of all evils for us is the lack of cruel justice. They cannot dispense justice as they are themselves involved in all types of heinous crime. This is a vicious circle which nation cannot break. So some sort of adhoc arrangement is needed whereby big criminals could be eliminated. These tugs have deprived the nation progress of the last 6 decades  & trillions of Rupees siphoned out of Pakistan.
Zalimo jawab doo,
history ka hisaab doooo :mad:
koi Bhutoo milaay tu foriegn agent :rtfm:
koi chootaay province wala millay tu Ghaddar :rtfm:
koi punjab ka millay tu politics :(
koi khaki millay tu historical ties :tongue:
alidxb and his fans to decide on Saza though no FAIR judgement expected :(

But there is also speculation that Sharif himself also wants an informal line of communication with the US – something that Maryam could open and use successfully. This is something that the Bhutto family had always enjoyed and continues to enjoy – the recent meeting of Aseefa Bhutto with Hilary Clinton is a case in point.

After all, the relationship with the US is not limited to foreign policy and security. Historically, Washington has played a role in domestic power struggles, as revealed by the Wikileaks.

Published in Dawn, October 24th, 2015




Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 24, 2015, 05:18:24 PM
Pakistan best batsman todate?
Boycott verdict :rtfm:

Javed miandad and before him possibly Hanif Mohammed
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 24, 2015, 05:35:02 PM
with apologies to Anti=Nawaz Group :rtfm:


http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2015-daily/24-10-2015/col4.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 24, 2015, 07:35:53 PM
 modi Another gift to india   :dance :dance :dance


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/england/11952799/ICC-faces-open-rebellion.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 25, 2015, 03:11:00 PM
now Modi wants to turn millions of innocents lives upside down :(
brilliant movie probably financed through NGO type funding
,my friend xb talks about politicians corruption and accountabilty but
has he ever thought about millions of people pain and distressed caused
by mard-e-momin policies and any accountability in this respect  :skeptic:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ghffk
movie name-silent water
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 25, 2015, 04:25:04 PM
Real world :bigeyed:
http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2015-daily/24-10-2015/col2.htm
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 25, 2015, 04:48:40 PM
now Modi wants to turn millions of innocents lives upside down :(
brilliant movie probably financed through NGO type funding
,my friend xb talks about politicians corruption and accountabilty but
has he ever thought about millions of people pain and distressed caused
by mard-e-momin policies and any accountability in this respect  :skeptic:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ghffk
movie name-silent water
Moodi is God's gift to India like we had Nawaz Butt & Zardari Chore in Pak.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 25, 2015, 06:03:33 PM
now Modi wants to turn millions of innocents lives upside down :(
brilliant movie probably financed through NGO type funding
,my friend xb talks about politicians corruption and accountabilty but
has he ever thought about millions of people pain and distressed caused
by mard-e-momin policies and any accountability in this respect  :skeptic:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ghffk
movie name-silent water
Moodi is God's gift to India like we had Nawaz Butt & Zardari Chore in Pak.
I indicated in above and other messages xd koo wardi k paichaay sirf ANGEL dikhta haay :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 25, 2015, 06:46:19 PM
now Modi wants to turn millions of innocents lives upside down :(
brilliant movie probably financed through NGO type funding
,my friend xb talks about politicians corruption and accountabilty but
has he ever thought about millions of people pain and distressed caused
by mard-e-momin policies and any accountability in this respect  :skeptic:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ghffk
movie name-silent water
Moodi is God's gift to India like we had Nawaz Butt & Zardari Chore in Pak.
I indicated in above and other messages xd koo wardi k paichaay sirf ANGEL dikhta haay :skeptic:
Bhai Jan, I hate Zia, Musharaf more than hate for Tugs like Zardari & Nawaz. Wish a real danda prevail which we had never seen yet.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 25, 2015, 07:08:42 PM
now Modi wants to turn millions of innocents lives upside down :(
brilliant movie probably financed through NGO type funding
,my friend xb talks about politicians corruption and accountabilty but
has he ever thought about millions of people pain and distressed caused
by mard-e-momin policies and any accountability in this respect  :skeptic:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ghffk
movie name-silent water
Moodi is God's gift to India like we had Nawaz Butt & Zardari Chore in Pak.
I indicated in above and other messages xd koo wardi k paichaay sirf ANGEL dikhta haay :skeptic:
Bhai Jan, I hate Zia, Musharaf more than hate for Tugs like Zardari & Nawaz. Wish a real danda prevail which we had never seen yet.

Bro,
Viable solution khappay,
This danda initially works but in the end u r left with bigger problems,
Gali do, convict corrupt but don't disturb democratic set up otherwise aagaay sirf more darkness and suffering haay :crying_anim02:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 26, 2015, 10:09:33 AM
Where will be  "Saaza & Jaaza" if the tugs continue? Do we wait till "Day of Judgement"?
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 27, 2015, 03:58:06 PM
Where will be  "Saaza & Jaaza" if the tugs continue? Do we wait till "Day of Judgement"?
D ki accountibility PPP koo kha Gaayaee :rtfm:
next election maay deliver karnaay waloo koo JUNTA Reward karaay Gee :fingerscrossed1:,
while invisible hand dealing with saza aspect  :good
aur kia chahaiyaee :confused1:
kia saraay politicians koo Gas chamber maay daal kaar hee sakoon millay Ga :skeptic:
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 27, 2015, 06:37:57 PM
Where will be  "Saaza & Jaaza" if the tugs continue? Do we wait till "Day of Judgement"?
D ki accountibility PPP koo kha Gaayaee :rtfm:
next election maay deliver karnaay waloo koo JUNTA Reward karaay Gee :fingerscrossed1:,
while invisible hand dealing with saza aspect  :good
aur kia chahaiyaee :confused1:
kia saraay politicians koo Gas chamber maay daal kaar hee sakoon millay Ga :skeptic:
Should air drop at K-2.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 27, 2015, 06:44:19 PM
Where will be  "Saaza & Jaaza" if the tugs continue? Do we wait till "Day of Judgement"?
D ki accountibility PPP koo kha Gaayaee :rtfm:
next election maay deliver karnaay waloo koo JUNTA Reward karaay Gee :fingerscrossed1:,
while invisible hand dealing with saza aspect  :good
aur kia chahaiyaee :confused1:
kia saraay politicians koo Gas chamber maay daal kaar hee sakoon millay Ga :skeptic:
Should air drop at K-2.
OPEN ALL kind of history books and u will find since 1947 SIRF yeh bloody civilians hee
charoooooo sooboo ki zanjeer rahaay haay and AAJ b haay :rtfm:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 27, 2015, 07:39:06 PM
Coooooooool about Pakistan :good:
https://vimeo.com/143578521
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 27, 2015, 07:45:36 PM
The women which made us proud:
https://vimeo.com/141508512
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 27, 2015, 07:49:03 PM
Pakistani living abroad miss what?
https://vimeo.com/141327953
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 29, 2015, 01:21:12 AM
yehi chirag jalay gaay tu roshni hoo gee :rtfm:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/980423/balochistan-cm-to-stay-on-for-remaining-term/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 29, 2015, 07:26:00 PM
D khappay, khappay, khappaaaaaaaaaaaaaay :rtfm:


http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/over-50-historians-speak-out-against-highly-vitiated-atmosphere/story-V5hp4JU90a1SABANtvSU6N.html

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/never-favoured-beef-ban-bjp-s-balancing-act-in-kerala-bengal/story-n9ciJpArbkGGySH7486KPJ.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 29, 2015, 10:07:27 PM
Balanced outcome :biggthumpup:

http://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/headline/supreme-court-bar-association-elections-2015-16-on-thursday/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 30, 2015, 12:06:42 PM
Where will be  "Saaza & Jaaza" if the tugs continue? Do we wait till "Day of Judgement"?
D ki accountibility PPP koo kha Gaayaee :rtfm:
next election maay deliver karnaay waloo koo JUNTA Reward karaay Gee :fingerscrossed1:,
while invisible hand dealing with saza aspect  :good
aur kia chahaiyaee :confused1:
kia saraay politicians koo Gas chamber maay daal kaar hee sakoon millay Ga :skeptic:
Should air drop at K-2.
OPEN ALL kind of history books and u will find since 1947 SIRF yeh bloody civilians hee
charoooooo sooboo ki zanjeer rahaay haay and AAJ b haay :rtfm:
Not all civilians come under this definition. We had many ugly faces like Mujeeb Ur Rehman, Abdul Ghaffar Khan, Khan of Qalat, Many among Marris, Bugties, Giyaa Sind, MQM, SSP, LEJ etc. List is very long. Alas poor judicial system never punished anyone.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 30, 2015, 05:10:11 PM
Hukumat sun lay,@
meray Nikkah me dhandhli hoi thi is lea tallak ho gai.
nikkah Foj ki nigrani me karaya jaye..
From.@ Imran khan.PTI
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Shadow on October 30, 2015, 06:02:50 PM
Meera nay phir sai khatoon e awal  kai khwab daikhna shru kardiya  :tongue: ....
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Dehan on October 30, 2015, 08:39:17 PM
Hukumat sun lay,@
meray Nikkah me dhandhli hoi thi is lea tallak ho gai.
nikkah Foj ki nigrani me karaya jaye..
From.@ Imran khan.PTI
Koi Talak Shalak nahi hoi.
Kion k Kaptan na choot bolta ha aur na kabi har manta ha.
Ye sab shrarat Punjab k Patwarion
aur Punjab Police ki ha.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 30, 2015, 09:22:25 PM
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/10/30/exclusive-arif-nizami-inside-stories-on-imran-reham/

after watching this programme, i am 99.9% CERTAIN arif nizami source koi aur nahi
khud IK haay :[
whole programme is focused on making IK hero out of this unfortunate tragedy and
blackening Reham khan Face and Character :skeptic:

Hain kawakib kuch nazar aate hain kuch
dhoka dete hain ye bazigar khula
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 31, 2015, 12:28:30 AM
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/10/30/exclusive-arif-nizami-inside-stories-on-imran-reham/

after watching this programme, i am 99.9% CERTAIN arif nizami source koi aur nahi
khud IK haay :[
whole programme is focused on making IK hero out of this unfortunate tragedy and
blackening Reham khan Face and Character :skeptic:

Hain kawakib kuch nazar aate hain kuch
dhoka dete hain ye bazigar khula
Bai Jan: Apni marzee ka nateeja mut nikalain. Jab Arif Nizamee IK par tanqeed karta tha tou tab he was a big journalist??
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on October 31, 2015, 12:46:54 AM
A glimpse of your judicial system. Lanat hay assay nizam aour hakoomat pay who support criminals:
http://www.express.pk/slideshows/351847/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 31, 2015, 03:42:55 PM
A glimpse of your judicial system. Lanat hay assay nizam aour hakoomat pay who support criminals:
http://www.express.pk/slideshows/351847/
:biggthumpup:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on October 31, 2015, 03:44:26 PM
D only way to loosen Qabza Group hold :rtfm:

http://www.bbc.com/urdu/regional/2015/10/151031_doosra_pahlu_bihar_elections_mb
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 02, 2015, 02:29:16 AM
http://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan/2015/11/151101_baat_se_baat_zh
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 02, 2015, 02:34:01 AM
case of Right choice-wrong judgement :skeptic:
too hot to handle :console: :console:

http://www.awaztoday.tv/News-Talk-Shows/92840/Jirga-5th-August-2015.aspx
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 02, 2015, 07:50:02 PM
embaras :crying_anim02:sed
who cares :dunno:


http://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan/2015/11/151102_rsf_pak_embassy_streets_rwa
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on November 02, 2015, 08:01:14 PM
This hypocracy is condemnable. The vested interest groups raise hue & cry where their interests are hit. They don't care where millions of innocent human being have been killed. What happened starting from Iran Iraq war till now Syria. History of these decades is witness to murder of million of innocent human beings. Down with Hypocrates who are hostage to Jewish media.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 03, 2015, 12:02:07 AM
This hypocracy is condemnable. The vested interest groups raise hue & cry where their interests are hit. They don't care where millions of innocent human being have been killed. What happened starting from Iran Iraq war till now Syria. History of these decades is witness to murder of million of innocent human beings. Down with Hypocrates who are hostage to Jewish media.
that view is shared by many people across the Globe,
however fair minded people exist in all cultures and v can
c that in india at this moment and who can forget 2 million
anti-iraq war march in london :rtfm:
 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 03, 2015, 12:03:29 AM
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/10/30/exclusive-arif-nizami-inside-stories-on-imran-reham/

after watching this programme, i am 99.9% CERTAIN arif nizami source koi aur nahi
khud IK haay :[
whole programme is focused on making IK hero out of this unfortunate tragedy and
blackening Reham khan Face and Character :skeptic:

Hain kawakib kuch nazar aate hain kuch


http://www.zemtv.com/2015/11/02/dna-2nd-november/
dhoka dete hain ye bazigar khula
Bai Jan: Apni marzee ka nateeja mut nikalain. Jab Arif Nizamee IK par tanqeed karta tha tou tab he was a big journalist??
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 03, 2015, 02:30:31 AM
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/11/02/live-with-dr-shahid-masood-2nd-november-2015/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on November 03, 2015, 07:31:07 PM
The Govt is making all out efforts to kill every local industry. They appease traders/importers only because it is the biggest vote bank  of Butt Sahib; Industrialists should go to hell as they are in hundreds of people only; hell with national interest too; Import Khappay as it brings commission in big import deals:
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103153107&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151103 
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on November 04, 2015, 01:08:38 AM
The real ugly faces:
https://code2u.wordpress.com/tag/pakistani-rulers-corruption/ :thumbsdown_anim:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on November 04, 2015, 01:19:37 AM
Full of lies; from head to toe; this guy could not answer questions about purchase price of LNG. It is funny they formed a committee to monitor only. This is all dung tapao & metti pao:
http://www.brecorder.com/top-news/108-pakistan-top-news/259151-import-of-lng-to-help-generate-cheaper-power-abbasi-tells-senate.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on November 04, 2015, 01:22:15 AM
Another drama going on to give clean chit to the worst public figure of Pak:
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?newsID=1103153805&Issue=NP_LHE&Date=20151103
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 04, 2015, 10:58:52 PM
http://www.zemtv.com/2015/10/30/exclusive-arif-nizami-inside-stories-on-imran-reham/

after watching this programme, i am 99.9% CERTAIN arif nizami source koi aur nahi
khud IK haay :[
whole programme is focused on making IK hero out of this unfortunate tragedy and
blackening Reham khan Face and Character :skeptic:

Hain kawakib kuch nazar aate hain kuch


http://www.zemtv.com/2015/11/02/dna-2nd-november/
dhoka dete hain ye bazigar khula



http://www.zemtv.com/2015/11/04/dna-4th-november-2015/ :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on November 06, 2015, 11:56:24 AM
IK action & media reaction :
http://www.express.pk/story/404606/
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 06, 2015, 08:22:12 PM
http://tribune.com.pk/story/986441/re-admission-agreements-suspended-with-western-countries-nisar/

Probably Rahman Malik most Ruthless act as home minister  :rtfm:

Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on November 07, 2015, 11:50:20 AM
Bhai Jan that was why I wrrote Ghardari as worst creature among us. Yet no accountability by current Govt for their heinous crimes against the nation.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 07, 2015, 05:40:21 PM
Bhai Jan that was why I wrrote Ghardari as worst creature among us. Yet no accountability by current Govt for their heinous crimes against the nation.
Qudrat ki punishment more harsh than man made laws,
wealth accumulation boohat mushkil but easier than quality spending apnaay aap paar,
after death, hard earned money is generally treated as unexpected lottery win by most
families and money becomes major source of friction and heartache among family members :rtfm:
Bill Gates and Buffett pagal nahi :skeptic:
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on November 07, 2015, 05:51:08 PM
Pakistan PM `made millions in UK'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pakistan-pm-made-millions-in-uk-1179392.html
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: Salammembers on November 07, 2015, 08:14:53 PM
Gene aik haay ;)

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/no-passport-for-narendra-modis-wife-as-she-has-no-marriage-certificate/article7855384.ece?w=alauto
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on November 07, 2015, 08:17:50 PM
Dharna season 2 should start by Dec 15.
Title: Re: Politics (Pakistan General Elections -2018)
Post by: alidxb on November 08, 2015, 11:53:05 AM
Nawaz was not expected to perform however ill-informed pinned hope on him  who fails by default:
http://www.brecorder.com/top-stories/0:/1244268:circular-debt-soars-to-rs-661-billion-imf-didnt-suggest-pkr-devaluation-says-finger/?date=201