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Title: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
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Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Admin on August 19, 2009, 03:05:19 PM
19-AUG-09 PRL Pak Refinery Limited FINANCIAL RESULT FOR THE YEAR ENDED 30/06/2OO9
19-AUG-09 PRL Pak Refinery Limited PROFIT/LOSS BEFORE TAXATION RS. IN MILLION (5,501.398)
19-AUG-09 PRL Pak Refinery Limited PROFIT/LOSS AFTER TAXATION RS. IN MILLION (4,571.655)
19-AUG-09 PRL Pak Refinery Limited EPS = (130.62) PREVIOUS WAS 60.31
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Honda 125 on August 19, 2009, 03:43:36 PM
19-AUG-09 PRL Pak Refinery Limited FINANCIAL RESULT FOR THE YEAR ENDED 30/06/2OO9
19-AUG-09 PRL Pak Refinery Limited PROFIT/LOSS BEFORE TAXATION RS. IN MILLION (5,501.398)
19-AUG-09 PRL Pak Refinery Limited PROFIT/LOSS AFTER TAXATION RS. IN MILLION (4,571.655)
19-AUG-09 PRL Pak Refinery Limited EPS = (130.62) PREVIOUS WAS 60.31

Kya loss mara ha  ;D Mazaaa aa giya...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Toshi on November 04, 2009, 12:33:12 PM
PAKISTAN REFINERY LIMITED - Analysis of Financial Statements June 2008 - June 2009 OVERVIEW (November 03 2009): Pakistan Refinery Limited (PRL) was incorporated in 1960. It is situated in Karachi and engaged in the production and sales of petroleum energy products as well as MTT, its only non-energy product. Its operations encompass extensive installations in refinery premises at Korangi, Karachi terminal, storage facilities at Keamari, Karachi and pipeline network from Korangi to Keamari.

Pakistan Refinery Limited engages in the production and sale of petroleum products in Pakistan. Its products include liquefied petroleum gas, motor gasoline, kerosene, jet fuels, high-speed diesel, and furnace oil. The company supplies its products to the domestic markets, Pakistan Defence Forces, and railways. PRL is listed on Karachi and Lahore stock exchanges.

There are 5 refineries currently existing in Pakistan which are:

1. PARCO; production 100,000 barrels per day equivalent to 4.5 million tons

2. NRL; production 65,000 barrels per day equivalent to 2.8 million tons

3. PRL; production 50,000 barrels per day equivalent to 2.2 million tons

4. ARL; production 40,000 barrels per day equivalent to 1.8 million tons

5. BOSICOR; production barrels per day equivalent to 1.5 million tons

COMPANY SNAPSHOT
Nature of Business Oil Refinery & Distributors
Share price (avg.) Rs 90
Market Capitalization Rs 3,765,650,000



Current crude production of Pakistan is 65,000 to 67,000 barrels per day and total capacity of the refineries is 285,000 barrels per day or 12 million tons hence 220,000 barrels per day are imported. Share of the petroleum products is about 40 percent of the current energy consumption in Pakistan. This consumption has grown sharply during the 1980s at the rate of almost 7 percent per annum, but it has shown a decreasing trend during 1990s and later it gained the pace during 2004-05 at about 10 percent per annum.

Oil consumption of different energy products is dominated by gasoline and fuel oil. Gasoline in Pakistan consists of high-speed diesel (HSD) and light speed diesel oil (LSDO), while fuel oil is normally used in terms of furnace oil, is being used for thermal power generation projects.

FINANCIAL OVERVIEW

FY09 has been a very challenging year for the entire oil sector and especially for refineries. The refineries were badly affected due to highly depressed refining margins, reduction in deemed duty on certain refined products and inventory losses. Additional burden was placed on PRL due to liquidity issues resulting from high receivables and depletion in the value of Pak rupee. Consequently, PRL incurred a post tax loss of Rs 4,572 million during the year ended June 30, 2009 compared with a profit of Rs 2.111 million last year.

The year 2008-09 saw historical fluctuations in international petroleum prices with prices of Arab Light crude reaching all time high of USD 143.09/bbl and slumping to a low US $35.35/bbl respectively. This year witnessed an international financial meltdown and its impact trickled down on our national economy. The country recorded a decline in foreign exchange reserves and a steep raise in the interest rate. Petroleum products off-take in the country during the year almost remained at last year's level of approximately 187.7 million MT, including furnace oil and diesel at 8.1 million MT and 7.6 million MT respectively.

COMPANY'S ANNUAL OPERATIONAL PERFORMANCE 2008-09 VS. 2007-08 REMAINED AS FOLLOWS:

* 5.316 MT of crude oil were processed per day as compared with 5.955 MT/day last year.

* Sales volume of products decreased by 17% over last year.

* Local crude was processed at 945 MT/day as compared with 885 MT/ day last year.

During the year, PRL entered into a USD 50 million short-term loan agreement with ECO Trade and Development Bank (ETDB) of Turkey at a very economical cost for the purpose of financing company's crude oil imports from Iran. This facility helped minimize the liquidity problems faced by the company faced by the company due to inter corporate circular debt issue of the energy sector. The circular debt problem resulted in additional financial charge of Rs 566 million to the company.

During 2008-09, the company recorded huge losses mainly due to unsustainable refinery product pricing mechanism, a steep fall in international crude oil prices, and adverse global refining margins. Rupee depreciation and the issue of circular debt all contributed to the huge loss. During the year, the plant throughput was 1.89 million MT which tantamounts to 5,316 M. Ton per day. Considering the difficult economic scenarios in which the refinery operated during the year 2008-09, PRL made concerted efforts towards controlling operating costs and PRL hence managed to operate with the lowest operating cost as compared to other refineries of the country.

PROFITABILITY

The financial year 2008 witnessed a phenomenal growth in the profitability of the company. The company earned a profit after tax of Rs 2,111 million during the year ended June 30, 2008 as against a profit of Rs 250.81 million in the last year. However, the bottom line saw a drastic decline, recorded at a loss of Rs 4,572 during the year ended June 2009. Cost of the sales incurred in this year exceeded the revenue generated by PRL. Other expenses registered a decline over the year; however, the finance cost for the company increased by 304%, and furthered aggravated the loss for the company. Important constituents of the finance cost were the exchange loss and the mark-up on running finance.

The loss incurred in FY09 worsened associated profitability indicators, the return on common equity being the worst affected. From historically high margins from FY08, the company's margins hit all time record low in FY09. Even though the trend of declining refiners' margins is in line with the other industry players, PRL stood the worst affected by the crisis that plagued the refining sector.

LIQUIDITY

Liquidity deteriorated slightly during the FY08, as compared with FY07 because there was a tremendous increase in accrued interest/markup. The amount for accrued interest rose by a staggering 3799.3%. In 2007 accrued interest were just fewer than 2 million rupees though at the end of the FY08 the amount increased to 77.5 million rupees. This deteriorating trend persisted in FY09, with both the current and acid test ratios registered a fall.

This is especially worrisome for the company since this year the current liabilities exceed the current assets of the company by Rs 1,230 million. This is mainly at the back of the new short term borrowing of Rs 4,105 million acquired by the company. Also there has been an increase in the trade debts by 52%. This represents money tied up with debtors, and being of most illiquid nature, it can potentially hurt the cash flow of the company.

ASSET MANAGEMENT

The operating cycle increased during FY08 because of the increases in inventory turnover and day sales outstanding. DSO has increased because of the rise in trade debt from Rs 4.78 billion to 10.43 billion in FY08 on a YoY basis. Secondly Inventory turnover also rose from 16.74 days in 2007 to 17.58 days in 2008 because stock in trade increased from Rs 5.1 billion to Rs 9.1 billion in 2008 on a YoY basis. All in all, the company's overall ability to manage its assets, deteriorated as the company found it difficult to get cash out of debtors and reduce stock-in-trade. Both sales/equity and total asset turnover improved during the FY08 because of higher sales and subsequent higher profits.

FY08 FY09 % change

Invent turnover 17.58 20.16 + 14.68%
Day sales o/stand 19.64 33.80 + 72.10%
Operate Cycle 37.23 53.95 + 44.91%

The operating cycle further went up in FY09, corresponding to increases in DSO and inventory turnover. Decline in sales revenue and rise in trade debts contributed to this deteriorating trend. Sales/equity ratio shows a drastic increase from 14.04 times in FY08 to 35.27 times in FY09. This is mainly at the back of 68% decline in equity, which decreased due to the diminution of the special reserve. Total Assets turnover reduced in FY09, indicating a fall in income generating ability of the assets utilized, despite an increase in total assets by 37%.

DEBT MANAGEMENT

Debt/equity ratio has increased from 2.06 in 2006-07 to 2.49 in 2007-08 because total liabilities increased by some 71.52% in FY08 on a YoY basis. Long-term debt to equity increased to 0.7% in FY08. Such a low long-term to equity figure represents a fact that most of the financing of assets in done through short-term debt. The debt/asset ratio rose from 67.28% in FY07 to 71.37% in FY08. The major increase is in the short-term debt of the company. This is also a reason for the increase in finance costs by 209.66%. Even though financial costs rose but TIE (times interest earned) increased from 7.09 to 13.76 in FY08 on a YoY basis.

In FY09, debt/equity ratio climbed up to 13.94 (FY08: 2.49) due to a fall in equity as well as the increase in short-term borrowing, particularly the short-term loan acquired from the ECO Trade & Development Bank (ETDB) of Turkey. Long-term debt to equity decline to 0.20 (FY08: 0.69) as the company did away with its balance of deferred tax. Debt to assets took a leap and stood at 93% at year-end (FY08: 71%). This means that the company is increasingly relying on short-term borrowing to fund its working capital and its non-current assets. Due to negative earnings recorded in this year, times earned ratio couldn't be calculated. This ratio is significant to the creditors of the company.

MARKET VALUE

The market outlook of PRL took a drastic turnaround since the company registered a massive blow to its profitability on the back on fluctuating international oil prices, reduction of deemed duty, and depletion of Pak rupee against USD. Security and political concerns reduced the investment numbers causing a sharp decline in the stock market during many periods of the year. The average price of the share was recorded Rs 90 in FY09 as against Rs 151 in FY08. At the back of the loss incurred in FY09, the earnings per share declined to negative Rs 130.6 from Rs 60.3 in FY08. Owing to the losses in the FY09, no dividends were announced for the shareholders.

FUTURE OUTLOOK

The future energy consumption poses a challenge for the country, mainly because of the projected increase reliance on foreign sources of supplies for crude. Such dependence means that the profitability of the refinery is closely inter-linked with the international petroleum products and crude oil prices, which is subject to much fluctuation.

The revision of the pricing formula by the government is not in the interest of the refinery. The reduction in the deemed duty has been a blow to the profitability. The situation being further augmented due to depreciation in Pak rupee against the US dollar.

Issuance of Rs 85bn TFCs for the clearance of circular debt has failed to bore desire result in the elimination of the liquidity crunch for the sector. Of the total disbursed amount, the refinery sector received only Rs 21bn of which Rs 19bn was allocated to PARCO (which was adjusted against payable to the GoP) while the residual was disbursed to PRL and BOSI. Whereas the other two listed refineries, NRL and ATRL reaped little fruits of the disbursement.

DECLINING CAPACITY UTILIZATION IS EXPECTED ON THE BACK OF THE FOLLOWING REASONS:

i) subdued POL product spreads;

ii) reduction of deemed duty by 250bps to 7.5% on HSD; and

iii) inflated working capital financing on account of circular debt.

The refinery has undertaken an upgrade project, primarily to meet the government's regulations for introducing Euro II fuel specifications for the year 2012. The effort will specifically address reducing sulfur content in High Speed Diesel (HSD) from 10,000 ppm to 500 ppm. Subsequently, project objective is to improve refinery profitability by partially converting High Sulfur Fuel Oil (HSFO) into HSD and therefore shifting slate to a more profitable product mix, ensuring sustainable profits for the company.

Several options for the future funding of the project, are being explored by the company to execute the project. However, depleting reserves may hamper the pace of work in progress on the upgradation project and Government support is imperative for timely completion of the project.

COURTESY: Economics and Finance Department, Institute of Business Administration
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: kse_karachi on November 04, 2009, 07:02:09 PM
Farzooq bhai what do u say about PRL.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: kamn1245 on November 06, 2009, 03:36:40 PM
Is PRL a good buy at 101?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Learner7 on November 06, 2009, 03:41:13 PM
Is PRL a good buy at 101?

Due to circular debt issue, PRL is near to shutdown its business.

If the issue is resolved, it will go to north.
Hopefully the issue sooner or later will be resolved, but when that is vital.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: kamn1245 on November 06, 2009, 03:52:40 PM
Is PRL a good buy at 101?

Due to circular debt issue, PRL is near to shutdown its business.

If the issue is resolved, it will go to north.
Hopefully the issue sooner or later will be resolved, but when that is vital.

Thanks!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Admin on November 07, 2009, 01:36:11 PM
Pakistan Refinery Limited (PRL)
PRL depicted loss of PKR672mn (LPS: PKR19.20) during 1QFY10. Apart from little/negative gross
refining margins, soaring financial charges of PKR586mn took the tool on company’s
profitability.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Farzooq on November 14, 2009, 09:54:30 AM
Refinery Co: PAKISTAN REFINERY LIMITED - Analysis of Financial Statements June 2008-September 2009
OVERVIEW (November 14 2009): Pakistan Refinery Limited (PRL), was incorporated in 1960. It is situated in Karachi and engaged in the production and sales of petroleum energy products as well as MTT, its only non-energy product. Its operations encompass extensive installations in the refinery premises at Korangi, Karachi terminal, storage facilities at Keamari, Karachi and pipeline network: Korangi to Keamari. Pakistan Refinery Limited engages in the production and sale of petroleum products in Pakistan.

Its products include liquefied petroleum gas, motor gasoline, kerosene, jet fuels, high-speed diesel, and furnace oil. The company supplies its products to the domestic markets, Pakistan Defense Force, and railways. It is listed on Karachi and Lahore stock exchanges.

There are 5 refineries currently existing in Pakistan which are

1. PARCO; production 100,000 barrels per day equivalent to 4.5 million tons

2. NRL; production 65,000 barrels per day equivalent to 2.8 million tons

3. PRL; production 50,000 barrels per day equivalent to 2.2 million tons

4. ARL; production 40,000 barrels per day equivalent to 1.8 million tons

5. BOSICOR; production barrels per day equivalent to 1.5 million tons

Current crude production of Pakistan is 65,000 to 67,000 barrels per day and total capacity of the refineries is 285,000 barrels per day or 12 million tons hence 22,0000 barrels per day are imported.

RECENT RESULTS 1Q09

The country witnessed a growth of approximately 19 percent in POL sales during the first quarter as compared to the corresponding period last year. The refinery operated at a capacity of 5,509 MT/day as against 5,262 MT/day from the corresponding quarter last year. Iran light crude and Arab light crude prices remained at average prices of USD 69.3/bbl and USD 68.9/bbl respectively. During the first quarter ended September 30, 2009 the overall sales volume increased by 8 percent from the same period last year.

However due to fall in prices, the sales revenue declined by 22%. Subsequent to a very challenging year, the first quarter for the year 2009-10 posted after tax loss of Rs 672 million as compared to loss of Rs 1,390 million for the same period last year. This figure includes an exchange loss of Rs 453 million due to depletion in value of Pak Rupee of approximately 2.6 percent during the quarter under review. Going forward, the refining margins are expected to remain fickle, though showing slight improvement from the last year's figures.

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COMPANY SNAPSHOT
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Name of company            Pakistan Refinery Limited
Nature of Business       Oil Refinery & Distributors
Ticker                   PRL
Share price (avg.)       Rs 90
Market Capitalization    Rs 3,765,650,000
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CONSUMPTION AND PRODUCTION OF POL PRODUCTS IN PAKISTAN

Share of the petroleum products is about 40 percent of the current energy consumption in Pakistan. This consumption has grown sharply during 1980s at rate of almost 7 percent per annum but it has shown a decreasing trend during 1990s and later it gained the pace during 2004-2005 at about 10 percent per annum. Oil consumption of different energy products, is dominated by gasoline and fuel oil. Gasoline in Pakistan consists of high-speed diesel (HSD) and light speed diesel oil (LSDO), while fuel oil is normally used in terms of furnace oil, which uses in thermal power generation projects.

Transport and agricultural sectors are the two major users of gasoline. Transport sector, include both private and commercial types. In the recent past, a very big amount of subsidy was provided by the government of Pakistan over gasoline, which has increased its consumption. But in 2007, unprecedented increase in the oil prices in the international market affected Pakistan's economy, due to which government is not in a position to provide relaxation on gasoline as some years back.

The government is gradually reducing the subsidy levels; as a result, gasoline prices are increasing locally and affecting the consumption. Secondly, the government is promoting the compressed natural gas (CNG) sector in Pakistan and both encouraging and forcing the transport sector to convert on CNG. This indicates that in the coming years Pakistan will see reduced consumption of Gasoline products. But there is no alternative of gasoline in the agriculture sector thus it is facing extreme difficulties due to rise of gasoline prices.

Furnace oil or fuel oil is normally used for production of electricity via thermal power plants. At the moment country is facing extreme energy crisis and government is planning for short term power generation plants that are oil based and also encouraging independent power producers to invest in the country. As all the new thermal power plants are oil based and also country has now very limited natural gas resources the consumption of furnace oil will also increase in the coming years.

FINANCIAL OVERVIEW

FY09 has been a very challenging year for the entire oil sector and especially for refineries. The refineries were badly affected due to highly depressed refining margins, reduction in deemed duty on certain refined products and inventory losses. Additional burden was placed on PRL due to liquidity issues resulting from high receivables and depreciation in the value of Pak rupee. Consequently, PRL incurred a post-tax loss of Rs 4,572 million during the year ended June 30, 2009 compared with a profit of Rs 2.111 million last year.

The year 2008-09 saw historical fluctuations in international petroleum prices with prices of Arab Light crude reaching all time high of USD 143.09/bbl and slumping to a low US $35.35/bbl respectively. This year witnessed an international financial meltdown and its impact trickled down on our national economy. The country recorded a decline in foreign exchange reserves and a steep raise in the interest rate. Petroleum products off-take in the country during the year almost remained at last year's level of approximately 187.7 million MT, including Furnace Oil and Diesel at 8.1 million MT and 7.6 million MT respectively.

Company's annual operational performance 2008-09 vs. 2007-08 remained as follows:

* 5.316 MT of crude oil were processed per day as compared with 5.955 MT/day last year.

* Sales volume of products decreased by 17% over last year.

* Local crude was processed at 945 MT/day as compared with 885 MT/ day last year.

The company desires to comply with Government directives of production of environmental friendly products by 2012. However, depleting financial reserves have seriously impaired the company's ability to achieve scheduled completion of Upgrade Project and Government support is imperative for timely completion of the project. The company management individually and collectively with other refineries has approached the government for support in installation of Hydroesulphurising Facility to meet EURO II applications for diesel production.

During the year, PRL entered into a USD 50 million short-term loan agreement with ECO Trade and Development Bank (ETDB) of Turkey at a very economical cost for the purpose of financing company's crude oil imports from Iran. This facility helped minimize the liquidity problems faced by the company faced by the company due to inter corporate circular debt issue of the energy sector. The circular debt problem resulted in additional financial charge of Rs 566 million to the company.

During 2008-09 the company recorded huge losses mainly due to unsustainable refinery product pricing mechanism, a steep fall in international crude oil prices, and adverse global refining margins. Rupee depreciation and the issue of circular debt all contributed to the huge loss. The company had smooth operations during the year and key performance indicators were maintained within the targets. There was no unplanned shutdown during the year. In November 2008, planned shutdown of ten days was carried out in order to improve plant's operational efficiency which was timely completed as per the budgetary limits and without any Lost Time Inquiry. During the year, plant throughput was 1.89 million MT which tantamounts to 5,316 M. Ton per day.

All efforts were made, including introduction of Distributed Control System (DCS) for Platformer unit, to maintain highest standards of safety, quality, engineering and environment while minimizing operating cost. The company has maintained improvement in reliability of plant to achieve the targeted four-year turnaround cycle length. Considering the difficult economic scenarios in which the refinery operated during the year 2008-09, the management made concerted efforts towards controlling operating costs and a number of initiatives were taken in this regard. PRL hence managed to operate with the lowest operating cost as compared to other refineries of the country. Control systems were strengthened and improved to contain possible losses and promote good governance.

PROFITABILITY

The financial year 2008 witnessed a phenomenal growth in the profitability of the company. The company earned a profit after tax of Rs 2,111 million during the year ended June 30, 2008 as against a profit of Rs 250.81 million in the last year. However, the bottom line saw a drastic decline, recorded at a loss Rs 4,572 during the year ended June 2009. Cost of the sales incurred in this year exceeded the revenue generated by PRL. Other expenses registered a decline over the year; however, the finance cost for the company increased by 304%, and furthered aggravated the loss for the company.

Important constituents of the finance cost were the exchange loss and the mark-up on running finance. The loss incurred in FY09 worsened associated profitability indicators, the return on common equity being the worst affected. From historically high margins from FY08, the company's margins hit all time record low in FY09. Even though the trend of declining refiners' margins is in line with the other industry players, PRL stood the worst affected by the crisis that plagued the refining sector.

LIQUIDITY

Liquidity deteriorated slightly during FY08 as compared to FY07 because there was a tremendous increase in accrued interest/mark-up. The amount for accrued interest rose by a staggering 3799.3%. In 2007 accrued interest were just fewer than 2 million rupees though at the end of the FY08 the amount increased to 77.5 million rupees. This deteriorating trend persisted in FY09, with both the current and acid test ratios registered a fall. This is especially worrisome for the company since this year the current liabilities exceed the current assets of the company by Rs 1,230 million. This is mainly at the back of the new short term borrowing of Rs 4,105 million acquired by the company.

Even though this should have improved the profitability of the company, the effect has offset by the significant 82.5% decline in the trade deposits and prepayment component of current assets, hence causing the decline in liquidity. Also there has been an increase in the trade debts by 52%. This represents money tied up with debtors, and being of most illiquid nature, it can potentially hurt the cash flow of the company.

ASSET MANAGEMENT

The operating cycle increased during FY08 because of the increases in inventory turnover and day sales outstanding. DSO has increased because of the rise in trade debt from Rs 4.78 billion to 10.43 billion in FY08 on a YoY basis. Secondly Inventory turnover also rose from 16.74 days in 2007 to 17.58 days in 2008 because stock in trade increased from Rs 5.1 billion to Rs 9.1 billion in 2008 on a YoY basis. All in all the company's overall ability to manage its assets deteriorated as the found it difficult to get cash out of debtors and reduce stock in trade. Both sales/equity and total asset turnover improved during the FY08 because of higher sales and subsequent higher profits.

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                              FY08          FY09     % change
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Inventory turnover           17.58         20.16       14.68%
Day sales outstanding        19.64         33.80       72.10%
Operating Cycle              37.23         53.95       44.91%
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The operating cycle further went up in FY09, corresponding to increases in DSO and inventory turnover. Decline in sales revenue and rise in trade debts contributed to this deteriorating trend. Sales/equity ratio shows a drastic increase from 14.04 times in FY08 to 35.27 times in FY09. This is mainly at the back of 68% decline in equity, which decreased due to the diminution of the special reserve.

Total Assets turnover reduced in FY09, indicating a fall in income generating ability of the assets utilized, despite an increase in total assets by 37%. There has been an increase of 140% in the value of property, plant and equipment. The company has initiated projects to produce more profit generating products and it is expected that such an investment will turn around the poor profitability of the company and generate positive returns in the future.

DEBT MANAGEMENT

Debt/equity ratio has increased from 2.06 in 2006-07 to 2.49 in 2007-08 because total liabilities increased by some 71.52% in FY08 on a YoY basis. Long-term debt to equity increased to 0.7% in FY08. Such a low long-term to equity figure represents a fact that most of the financing of assets in done through short-term debt. The debt/asset ratio rose from 67.28% in FY07 to 71.37% in FY08. The major increase is in the short-term debt of the company. This is also a reason for the increase in finance costs by 209.66%. Even though financial costs rose but TIE (times interest earned) increased from 7.09 to 13.76 in FY08 on a YoY basis.

In FY09, debt/equity ratio climbed up to 13.94 (FY08: 2.49) due to the fall in equity as well as the increase in short term borrowing, particularly the short term loan acquired from the ECO Trade & Development Bank (ETDB) of Turkey. Long term debt to equity decline to 0.20 (FY08: 0.69) as the company did away with its balance of deferred tax. Debt to assets tool took a leap and stood at 93% at the year-end (FY08: 71%). This means that the company is increasingly relying on short-term borrowing to funds its working capital and its non-current assets. Due to negative earnings recorded in this year, times earned ratio couldn't be calculated. This ratio is significant to the creditors of the company.

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CRUDE Million Tons per Annum   2007       2010       2015
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Processing Capacity           12.61      22.45*    33.63*
Indigenous Supply of crude     3.86        4.8        4.8
Import Requirement             8.75      17.65      28.83
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MARKET VALUE

The market outlook of PRL took a drastic turnaround since the company registered a massive blow to its profitability on the back on fluctuating international oil prices, reduction of deemed duty, and depletion of Pak Rupee against USD. Security and political concerns reduced the investment numbers causing a sharp decline in the stock market during many periods of the year. The average price of the share was recorded Rs 90 in FY09 as against Rs 151 in FY08. At the back of the loss incurred in FY09, the earnings per share declined to negative Rs 130.6 from Rs 60.3 in FY08. Owing to the losses in the FY09, no dividends were announced for the shareholders.

FUTURE OUTLOOK

*Assumes planned refineries (Indus & Bosicor) are operational

**Assumes planned Coastal Refinery is operational.

The future energy consumption poses a challenge for the country, mainly because of the projected increase reliance on foreign sources of supplies for crude. Such dependence means that the profitability of the refinery is closely inter-linked with the international petroleum products and crude oil prices, which is subject to many fluctuations.

The revision of the Pricing Formula by the Government is not in the interest of the refinery. The reduction in the deemed duty has been a blow to the profitability, the situation being further augmented due to the depreciation of Pak rupee against the US dollar. Issuance of Rs85bn TFC for the clearance of circular debt has failed to bore desire result in the elimination of the liquidity crunch for the sector. Of the total disbursed amount, the refinery sector received only Rs 21bn of which Rs 19bn was allocated to PARCO (which was adjusted against payable to the GoP) while the residual was disbursed to PRL and BOSI. Whereas the other two listed refineries, NRL and ATRL reaped little fruits of the disbursement.

DECLINING CAPACITY UTILIZATION IS EXPECTED ON THE BACK OF THE FOLLOWING REASONS:

i) subdued POL product spreads

ii) reduction of deemed duty by 250bps to 7.5% on HSD and

iii) inflated working capital financing on account of circular debt

The refinery has undertaken an upgrade project, primarily to meet the Government's regulations for introducing Euro II fuel specifications for the year 2012. The effort will specifically address reducing sulfur content in High Speed Diesel (HSD) from 10,000 ppm to 500 ppm. Subsequently, project objective is to improve refinery profitability by partially converting High Sulfur Fuel Oil (HSFO) into HSD and therefore shifting slate to a more profitable product mix, ensuring sustainable profits for the company.

Several options, for future funding of the project, are being explored by the company to execute the project. However, depleting reserves may hamper the pace of work in progress on the upgradation project and Government support is imperative for timely completion of the project.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Toshi on November 22, 2009, 11:40:03 PM
R3 = 108.523
midr3 = 107.955
R2 = 107.387
midr2 = 106.58
R1 = 105.773
midr1 = 105.205
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p = 104.637
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mids1 = 103.83
S1 = 103.023
mids2 = 102.455
S2 = 101.887
mids3 = 101.08
S3 = 100.273
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Learner7 on November 23, 2009, 10:07:40 AM
Is PRL a good buy at 101?

Due to circular debt issue, PRL is near to shutdown its business.

If the issue is resolved, it will go to north.
Hopefully the issue sooner or later will be resolved, but when that is vital.

Refineries on the verge of financial collapse  

IQBAL MIRZA
KARACHI (November 23 2009): The existing five refineries in the country are on the verge of a financial collapse and with no cash resources in hand, even securing supplies of crude oil for processing is becoming difficult. Indeed the issue of circular debt is seriously impeding the smooth operations of refineries as they have fully exhausted their cash reserves and borrowing limits at a substantial cost.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Admin on November 26, 2009, 03:20:29 PM
prl demands 10 billion from pso urgently
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: abcd on November 26, 2009, 09:33:41 PM
prl demands 10 billion from pso urgently
issue persist n seems getting no results
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Toshi on December 20, 2009, 08:00:23 PM
Buy PRL withstop loss 118 strong bullish trend.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Toshi on December 21, 2009, 11:03:03 AM
Buy PRL withstop loss 118 strong bullish trend.

Laoo maal PRL.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Toshi on December 21, 2009, 10:43:45 PM
Buy PRL with stop loss 118 strong bullish trend
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Farzooq on February 15, 2010, 01:42:10 PM
lps 48.57
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Farzooq on February 15, 2010, 03:11:45 PM
lps 48.57

PRL: 1HFY10 loss of PKR48/share; recovery of PKR1.8bn in doubt   
   
  Pakistan Refinery Limited (PRL) just announced its 1HFY10 financial results. The company posted a loss of PKR1.7bn (LPS: PKR48.57) compared to a loss of PKR4.0bn (LPS: PKR113.63) for 1HFY09. 
 For 2QFY10, PRL posted a loss of PKR1.0bn (LPS: PKR29.36) compared to a loss of PKR2.6bn (LPS: PKR73.91) for 2QFY09. 
 The company continued to bleed due to negative gross refining margins, high financial charges and exorbitant exchange losses. After accumulating the losses posted since the beginning of FY09 (PKR6.3bn), the company’s capital base stands to be eroded from PKR6.8bn in Jun08 to around PKR480mn by Dec09. 
 More alarmingly, while the auditors have not qualified the report, they have stated that “..the recoverability of the carrying value of capital work in progress of PKR1.37bn relating to refinery up-gradation project and deferred tax asset of PKR457.9mn in respect of carry forward tax losses is dependent on the timely commissioning of the up-gradation project.” 
 We believe provisioning/losses on aforementioned charges may become a reality, given weak global refinery margins, lack of clarity on resolution of regulatory framework for domestic refineries and delays in commissioning of up-gradation project. We maintain an Underweight stance on the sector and continue to advise caution on the stocks. 
 
 
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Farzooq on February 16, 2010, 09:25:13 AM
After tax loss of PRL declined to Rs 1.699 billion
RECORDER REPORT
KARACHI (February 16 2010): The after tax loss of Pakistan Refinery Limited (PRL) has declined to Rs 1.699 billion in the half year period ended December 31, 2009 as compared to Rs 3.977 billion recorded in the corresponding period in 2008. The board of directors of the company in its meeting held on Monday declared that the company's per share loss stood at Rs 48.57 in the period under review against Rs 113.63 in the same period a year back.

According to the financial results, the company's sales declined to Rs 48.317 billion in this period against Rs 56.712 billion in the same period in 2008. The company paid Rs 9.372 billion as sales tax, excise duty and development levy in against Rs 9.044 billion paid in the same account previously. The company's before tax loss was recorded at Rs 1.055 billion in the half-year period in 2009 against Rs 5.819 billion witnessed in the same period in 2008.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Toshi on March 11, 2010, 11:16:28 PM
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab251/Toshiali/prl.png)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Mr.TOOL on April 04, 2010, 09:35:31 PM
Buy PRL.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Farzooq on May 04, 2010, 12:50:21 PM
(http://www.kse.com.pk/newsimage/016585-1.gif)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Poker Face on September 03, 2010, 10:41:09 PM
Agar Short Selling ka option hota to mein 100 pe PRL ki heavy buying karta aur us waqt ka wait karta jab yeh Rs. 2 ka hoga bohat jald. Mujhe to lagta hai yeh refinery band ho jaye gi very soon aur shayad ATRL aur BYCO bhi. Shayd PSO, OGDC, KAPCO, HUBCO sab band ho jayen kyunki Govt ke log free electricity le rahe hain, 50-60% population kunda lagati hai, aur bechare imandaar double, tripple bill pay kar rahe hain.  :mad: :mad: :mad:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Dhillon on October 20, 2010, 02:47:03 PM
PRL loss for the 1st Q JULY to SEP is now only EPS (0.69)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SK on December 02, 2010, 10:32:52 AM
It is time of PRL  :biggrin:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: GTrader on December 03, 2010, 10:29:07 AM
(http://www.express.com.pk/images/NP_LHE/20101203/Sub_Images/1101112107-1.jpg)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SK on December 03, 2010, 08:36:20 PM
already initiated a buy position.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SK on December 06, 2010, 11:28:49 AM
upper locked

 :shoaby:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: invincible on December 06, 2010, 11:59:23 AM
Gud Call miss kiyani
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SK on December 07, 2010, 08:20:47 PM
good show PRL
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: invincible on December 07, 2010, 08:37:13 PM
good show PRL


Mem had u any inside news about Prl n Mcb. Both scripts appreciated alot as u took position.. :skeptic:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SK on December 07, 2010, 08:51:48 PM
good show PRL


Mem had u any inside news about Prl n Mcb. Both scripts appreciated alot as u took position.. :skeptic:

no no absolutly not.
But in expert's view it was just a tukka.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Farzooq on February 21, 2011, 03:37:03 PM
Inventory gains + tax reversals; 2QFY11 EPS rises to PKR26: PRL posted profit after tax of
PKR905mn (EPS: PKR25.86) during 2QFY11, against a loss after tax of PKR1.03bn (LPS:
PKR29.36) during the same period last year. 1HFY11 now shows PKR881mn in earnings (EPS:
PKR25.18) against losses of PKR1.7bn (LPS: 48.57) during 1HFY10. Return to profitability during
2Q is a temporary phenomenon for PRL, driven by inventory gains and tax reversals.
2QFY11 core EPS was a mere PKR2.0/share: 2QFY11 EPS included PKR19/share in inventory
gains, and PKR4.5/share of tax reversals as per our estimates. Excluding these one offs, core
earnings would likely have been a mere PKR2.0/share.

GRMs continue to weaken; though inventory gains shall persist in 3Q: GRMs for PRL
averaged a mere USD0.32/bbl during 3QFY11 (to?date), USD1.24/bbl lower than last quarter.
In addition, full period impact of removal of incidentals would lead to a combined reduction of
USD1.9/bbl in primary margins for PRL in 3QFY11 on QoQ basis. However, inventory gains may
continue during 3QFY11, with an even higher quantum, as oil prices continued their uptrend.
Our initial estimates suggest 3QFY11 EPS at PKR18.0.
We refrain from assigning a Price Target; advise sell: Without inventory gains and post
removal of incidentals, PRL would be a loss making entity. Removal of 7.5% deemed duty on
HSD would trim earnings of the already loss making entity by another PKR48/share.
Upgradation project’s viability and magnitude of incremental cash flows are uncertain,
whereas inventory gains remain difficult to forecast. While PKR83/share in net unrealized
interest income is a comforting factor, it is more than offset by weak quality assets worth
PKR130/share.

eixir
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: junaidph on March 24, 2011, 09:03:55 AM
what could be the traget price if i hold it for 6 to 12 months time...seniors pl guide me
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Farzooq on April 20, 2011, 03:37:02 PM
9m eps 1.34  :ohmy:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ayub on April 20, 2011, 04:07:42 PM
A totally unexpected result as compared to the half year? Even less than Rs. 2.

Pakistan Refinery Limited 14 February 2011
01:43 PM
(PKT +5:00GMT) PROFIT/LOSS AFTER TAXATION RS. IN MILLION 881.121
EPS = 25.17
FINANCIAL RESULT FOR THE HALF YEAR ENDED 31/12/2010
PROFIT/LOSS BEFORE TAXATION RS. IN MILLION 1,049.996
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Poker Face on April 22, 2011, 11:05:04 AM
Refinery Margins for 3rd quarter
Sales Rs. 25.44 billion
Cost of sales Rs. 25.10 billion
Gross Profit Rs. 340 million
Other operating expenses Rs. 1.02 billion (Rs. 79 mil for 1st 6 months)

Loss per share Rs. (23.83)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Dr. Economist on September 08, 2011, 11:48:48 AM
PRL consecutive upper caps..any news poker or what?  :dunno:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Poker Face on September 08, 2011, 11:58:08 AM
good for satta
but very weak fundamentally
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Dr. Economist on September 08, 2011, 12:16:10 PM
good for satta
but very weak fundamentally

ahan  :skeptic:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Poker Face on September 16, 2011, 04:38:02 PM
PRL CY 11 eps 6.40 {previous loss per share 85.01}
Dividend Rs. 1.50/- per share i.e 15%  :shock:  :clap1:  :shoaby:

PRL aur dividend!!!!!!!!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Dr. Economist on September 20, 2011, 11:35:06 PM
PRL CY 11 eps 6.40 {previous loss per share 85.01}
Dividend Rs. 1.50/- per share i.e 15%  :shock:  :clap1:  :shoaby:

PRL aur dividend!!!!!!!!!  :laugh:

haha mjy b bohot heerani hui t  :biggrin:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Poker Face on September 23, 2011, 06:23:36 PM
PRL: One offs offset strong inventory gains in FY11

FY11 EPS clocked in at PKR6.40: PRL posted PAT of PKR223mn (EPS: PKR6.4) in FY11 against a loss after tax of PKR2.9bn (LPS: PKR85.01) in the last year. In contrast to LPS of PKR33.5 recorded in 4QFY10, 4QFY11 EPS stood at PKR5.06. Cash dividend of PKR1.5/share by the company remained a surprise for us. 
  
Inventory gains drove FY11 earnings: 133% YoY jump in FY11 GRMs would likely have increased PRL’s core gross profit to PKR306mn in FY11 (core gross loss of PKR495mn in FY10). However, gross profits reached a hefty PKR2.4bn, due to inventory gains of PKR2.1bn (EPS impact of PKR39.2/share). Inventory gains were offset by a fixed asset write?off amounting to PKR25.8/share and tax asset write off of PKR7.2/share. Barring inventory gains and one offs, PRL would likely have posted a core recurring EPS of a mere PKR0.24/share.  

Profitability likely to persist in 1QFY12; inventory gains/losses a key determinant: PRL’s 1QFY12 GRM clocked in at USD3.4/bbl (?  48% QoQ), which would likely yield an EPS of PKR7.48 for 1QFY12, as per our initial estimates. However, POL prices shall remain the key determinant of inventory loss/gains and hence 1QFY12 profitability.  

Cleaner balance sheet; though still remain weak: As at Jun 30, 2011 the company has accumulated losses of PKR917mn, and hence negative equity of PKR16/share. However, PKR90/share of revaluation surplus takes FY11E BVPS to PKR74. PRL has completely written off “capital work in progress” relating to feasibility studies on refinery up?gradation during FY11. Unrealized net interest income of PKR88/share shall remain a comforting factor for the company. Owing to unpredictable earnings stream we refrain from assigning PT to PRL.    

Ali Ahmed Tiwana
Elixir Research
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Poker Face on October 26, 2011, 06:04:53 PM
PRL Q1 eps 0.70 previous lps 0.69
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: AGz on February 15, 2012, 02:12:30 PM
Annual Result
LPS Rs. 9.72
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: kse_karachi on March 21, 2012, 08:22:21 PM
PRL ka kia diyhan hai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on September 10, 2012, 05:49:07 PM
Strong Buy call for PRL around 62-63...
TARGET : 75 Insha ALLAH.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: stalker on September 10, 2012, 06:00:49 PM
Strong Buy call for PRL around 62-63...
TARGET : 75 Insha ALLAH.


any news?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: KSE Investor on September 10, 2012, 06:05:11 PM
Strong Buy call for PRL around 62-63...
TARGET : 75 Insha ALLAH.

Do u have any idea about its earnings and payout  this year?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: KSE Investor on September 10, 2012, 06:22:38 PM
Strong Buy call for PRL around 62-63...
TARGET : 75 Insha ALLAH.

Do u have any idea about its earnings and payout  this year?

EPS (LPS)
2010 ------- --------------(85.10)
2011-----------------------6.40
up to 3Q2012-----------(2.56)

Earnings are very much fluctuating. Also no cash dividend during the above period except bonus issue of 15% in 2011
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on September 10, 2012, 07:19:33 PM
I am expecting a bull run in refinery sector. :D
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: th3.inv3stor on September 10, 2012, 07:47:19 PM
Strong Buy call for PRL around 62-63...
TARGET : 75 Insha ALLAH.

Do u have any idea about its earnings and payout  this year?

EPS (LPS)
2010 ------- --------------(85.10)
2011-----------------------6.40
up to 3Q2012-----------(2.56)

Earnings are very much fluctuating. Also no cash dividend during the above period except bonus issue of 15% in 2011

if someone is not feeling comfortable with PRL can consider ATRL :dunno:. overall refineries are told to be bullish in weeks ahead. :good
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on September 17, 2012, 11:53:07 PM
2-3rs positive EPS in the quarter will be good enough to trigger the ride toawrds 75-78.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: saifullahkhan7 on September 18, 2012, 12:03:12 AM
2-3rs positive EPS in the quarter will be good enough to trigger the ride toawrds 75-78.
Qadir Bhai chance hai 2-3 Rs EPS ka???
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Farzooq on September 18, 2012, 01:45:49 PM
prl lps 46.16
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Saiti on September 18, 2012, 01:48:03 PM
prl lps 46.16

mein aaj laine laga thaa but result walay din khamoshi ki wajah se nahi lia.... Thank God :)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on September 18, 2012, 02:03:16 PM
Horrible results
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: saifullahkhan7 on September 18, 2012, 03:51:33 PM
prl lps 46.16

Bhaio ek simple sa question hai, samaj mein nahi aa raha, bus itna bata dain K ek company, ek he waqt mein itne bi-gairat kaisi ho saktee hai??? huhu

(in k Board of Director Ke Meeting, AGM etc kab hai??? Mein zara apni jazbat ka khol kar izhar karna chahta hoon)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Poker Face on September 18, 2012, 04:25:40 PM
very tough fuel segment
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Saiti on September 18, 2012, 04:32:35 PM
loser of the day when almost every main script performed so well!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: DEVDAS on September 18, 2012, 04:56:34 PM
such result is normal for PRL. Its LPS was (85.01) for FY. 2010.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on September 18, 2012, 06:16:06 PM
BOUGHT 20K ON LOWER CAP.... ;)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: DEVDAS on September 18, 2012, 06:40:10 PM
BOUGHT 20K ON LOWER CAP.... ;)

@Qadir wish u best of luck. The higher the risk the higher the reward.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on September 18, 2012, 10:54:17 PM
Todays lower lock was just drama... :D
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: DEVDAS on September 18, 2012, 11:09:11 PM
no worries,i also hv 5000 at lower lock.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: saifullahkhan7 on September 19, 2012, 12:51:40 AM
Todays lower lock was just drama... :D

Kia Qadir Bhai, is mein LPS 46 ki baad rally tu lagnay si rahee
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on September 19, 2012, 01:04:13 AM
Todays lower lock was just drama... :D

Kia Qadir Bhai, is mein LPS 46 ki baad rally tu lagnay si rahee


Lps tu shell ka bhi aya tha but it rallied from 120 to 140 in just two to three days...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Rizwan Bhatti on September 19, 2012, 01:15:48 PM
what u said qadir bahi.
agar ab entry laa kar half month ka lya hold kya jay too kahan tak jaa sakta ha?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on September 19, 2012, 05:47:39 PM
what u said qadir bahi.
agar ab entry laa kar half month ka lya hold kya jay too kahan tak jaa sakta ha?

Above 70 Insha ALLAH.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: malikk on September 19, 2012, 09:04:01 PM
Todays lower lock was just drama... :D

Kia Qadir Bhai, is mein LPS 46 ki baad rally tu lagnay si rahee

Lps tu shell ka bhi aya tha but it rallied from 120 to 140 in just two to three days...

i agree to qadir bhai on ths , shell ko 117 pe miss kia tha ... and pRL ko i was eyeing at 50  :tongue: ...jitna discount milay , nikaalo iss Kse se  :tongue:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: DEVDAS on September 19, 2012, 09:25:51 PM
On 30th August, 2010 PRL announced a Loss of (85.01). its share went little down from Rs.54 to Rs.48. But after 4 days started north movment & in five months till mid January went upto Rs. 122.

So all s fair with PRL as its Profit can be 25 in 1st QTR.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: saifullahkhan7 on September 19, 2012, 10:13:33 PM
I agree to all comments, but can there be any justification of a 60.0 Rs share having an LPS of 46.0 Rs. (i.e. 76% of it's value). Upper lock, lower lock, stock oper, stock neechay, sab game ka hissa hai. But how is this company being managed???  :dunno:
The way it is managed and they way the results come makes it an expensive Kachra item, doesn't it?
Agree with Space bhai that it's a tough oil sector but in E&P (and in refineries) others are doing wonders!
                                               Exploration-------------->Refineries------------->OMCs
                                               PPL :shoaby:                 ATRL :shoaby:           PSO :shoaby:
                                               OGDC :shoaby:              NRL  :shoaby:           APL :shoaby:
                                               POL :shoaby:                 PRL  :o                      SHELL :crying_anim02:
                                                                                     BYCO  :skeptic:
In the whole vale chain only three companies are not performing well. In these three BYCO is doing something about it, the other two are plagued with Mismanagement.           
                                                                                       
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: stalker on September 19, 2012, 10:49:53 PM
what u said qadir bahi.
agar ab entry laa kar half month ka lya hold kya jay too kahan tak jaa sakta ha?

Above 70 Insha ALLAH.

just because of qadir bahi i'll be buying 2000 tommorow :)..
his calls are awesome :)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Rizwan Bhatti on September 20, 2012, 10:33:51 AM
qadir bahi now it is discounting.
 as it reach good resistence point i will take entry in it.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on September 21, 2012, 03:04:45 PM
Selling is absorbed and now its time to move Insha ALLAH.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: kamal on September 21, 2012, 03:12:32 PM
Selling is absorbed and now its time to move Insha ALLAH.

bottom 50 kai chances hain qadir ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on September 24, 2012, 02:19:53 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: mra901 on September 24, 2012, 02:26:59 PM
greattttttttttttttttttoooooooooooooo         :laugh:      :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on September 24, 2012, 03:37:32 PM
hold target above 70 Insha ALLAH.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on September 25, 2012, 09:57:01 AM
One more..... ;)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: masamad on September 25, 2012, 10:07:42 AM
Qadir sb chaa gay o janab.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on October 07, 2012, 06:49:03 PM
Extract from Auditors Opinion

we draw attention to note 2.1 to the financial statements. As stated in the note, as at June 30, 2012 the company has accumulated loss of Rs 2.59 billion resulting in net negative equity of Rs 2.23 billion. Further, current liabilities of the company exceed its current assets by Rs 3.61 billion. These conditions indicate the existence of a material uncertainty which may cast significant doubt about the company's ability to continue as a going concern.

It has negative equity of 2.6billion, however the most amzing thing in note 30 exchange gain loss of 1..36 Billion on payments to creditors for purchase of crude oil.  :skeptic:

Its going concern assumption is questioned by auditors that is a cause for concern

Source : http://www.prl.com.pk/downloads/annualreport2012.pdf
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on October 07, 2012, 07:11:01 PM
contrary to that ATRL has 1.2Bn interest on delayed payments from govt

it also has exchnage loss of 989M
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on October 07, 2012, 09:16:27 PM
The more it consolidates around 60 the stronger will be the rally Insha ALLAH
just wait n watch
And dun take tension of EOM by auditors.
U should also read the directors comment which will clarifiies the picture.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on October 07, 2012, 09:17:56 PM
Good chunk has been bought around 60 -61 and its free float is also very less so series of caps are easy.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: pax on October 09, 2012, 02:44:51 PM
Is it still a good buy? When is it expected to rally? Is there a BM around the corner soon :) ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on October 09, 2012, 02:58:09 PM
it has no fundamentals only sattamentals kuch nahin kaha js sakta
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on October 19, 2012, 12:32:20 AM
Flight is ready to take off.. Insha ALLAH.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Samar Sardar Bajwa on October 19, 2012, 12:44:49 AM
qadir bhai Ap kay moun maie ghee shakar........ :console:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on October 20, 2012, 01:42:43 AM
Expecting 5-6 rs EPS for first quarter and may hit continous 4-5 upper caps.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: masamad on October 23, 2012, 01:58:48 PM
its locked what is result update if any.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Saiti on October 23, 2012, 02:04:52 PM
1st qtr eps 21.92!!  :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: masamad on October 23, 2012, 02:09:14 PM
ha GREET EARNING. Unexpected and joyful.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: stalker on October 23, 2012, 02:13:08 PM
100+ ki ride hai abh toh!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: masamad on October 23, 2012, 02:18:11 PM
@asamad SUCH KEH RAHAY HAIN AAP KAY MUNH MAY GHEE SHUKKAR.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: DEVDAS on October 23, 2012, 02:55:20 PM
100+ ki ride hai abh toh!

100+......, i think 80 will be reasonable target as PRL results fluctuates alot in every QTR.

Rest its MR. Qadir call so let see what he says
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on October 23, 2012, 04:10:05 PM
 :biggthumpup:

wehsi earnings
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: mra901 on October 23, 2012, 05:00:40 PM
1st qtr eps 21.92!!  :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim:

 :o  :[  mind blowing yaar

Good job Qadir bhai   :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: phdmaker on October 23, 2012, 05:01:02 PM
The more it consolidates around 60 the stronger will be the rally Insha ALLAH
just wait n watch
And dun take tension of EOM by auditors.
U should also read the directors comment which will clarifiies the picture.

Hats off to you sir !

 :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: phdmaker on October 23, 2012, 05:03:27 PM
1st qtr eps 21.92!!  :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim:

Amazing indeed.

Kaha sai laie itni earning per share  :ohmy:

Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: salman679 on October 23, 2012, 05:15:29 PM
Qadir bhai the gr8..I m following you sir!! :shoaby:
Bus ab OGDCL ko b 200 karwa dein.
God bless you1 :good
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: kashif on October 23, 2012, 09:05:12 PM
Qadir bhaiiii .... great job ...  :clap1: ... amazing results  :dancedance... we hope to achieve the target of Rs.70 Inshallah.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: asianstock on October 23, 2012, 11:15:05 PM
Qadir bhai - Please Byco ka bhi kuch bata day..Thanks..... I still not sure hold / sell.. Kindly Advise me. Thanks alot.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: mahmad786 on October 23, 2012, 11:57:32 PM
Qadir bhaiiii .... great job ...  :clap1: ... amazing results  :dancedance... we hope to achieve the target of Rs.70 Inshallah.


I agree, we should be thankful to him but i think its one out of many which worked. OGDC, PSO and many other failed miserably. If you share a list of 10 then most probably one will work.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on October 24, 2012, 12:38:09 AM
Qadir bhaiiii .... great job ...  :clap1: ... amazing results  :dancedance... we hope to achieve the target of Rs.70 Inshallah.


I agree, we should be thankful to him but i think its one out of many which worked. OGDC, PSO and many other failed miserably. If you share a list of 10 then most probably one will work.

Krde na bachoon wali baat , i was just waiting for such comments.
OGDC my target of 200rs for short-medium term is still intact and Insha ALLAH it will perform.
PSO target is above 240 rs for medium term and Insha ALLAH it will perform.
One of the basic thing which i see in most of the investors on this forum is lack of holding power and patience.
Dun try to get short cuts of earning money , investment requires time to provide return.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: DEVDAS on October 24, 2012, 12:45:07 AM
Qadir bhaiiii .... great job ...  :clap1: ... amazing results  :dancedance... we hope to achieve the target of Rs.70 Inshallah.


I agree, we should be thankful to him but i think its one out of many which worked. OGDC, PSO and many other failed miserably. If you share a list of 10 then most probably one will work.

Krde na bachoon wali baat , i was just waiting for such comments.
OGDC my target of 200rs for short-medium term is still intact and Insha ALLAH it will perform.
PSO target is above 240 rs for medium term and Insha ALLAH it will perform.
One of the basic thing which i see in most of the investors on this forum is lack of holding power and patience.
Dun try to get short cuts of earning money , investment requires time to provide return.

agree with u Mr. Qadir. I also kept IGIIL for a month which i bought at 63.00 & sold at 65.00 as it was not moving. later it went above 100 which was ur TP. Also missed FASM like this. Now holding SMTM & PRL. PRL has started moving. Inshallah SMTM will soon move.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: mahmad786 on October 24, 2012, 12:57:25 AM
Qadir i am not underestimating you. I do have holding power and i am into stock for past 6 years.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: DEVDAS on October 24, 2012, 01:17:37 AM
Qadir i am not underestimating you. I do have holding power and i am into stock for past 6 years.


@ 786, i also dont go blindly on @ Qadir calls. I saw trends of shares which he recommend, but find he had some logic in his calls except some. But in stocks even 50% positive calls r considered good.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: AIS on October 24, 2012, 06:53:30 AM
The more it consolidates around 60 the stronger will be the rally Insha ALLAH
just wait n watch
And dun take tension of EOM by auditors.
U should also read the directors comment which will clarifiies the picture.
Qadir, now after the result we know how accurate your stance has been mashallah.It is great to have someone like you among us.  :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: ahmedshahbukhari on October 24, 2012, 11:23:56 AM
 :biggthumpup: :biggthumpup: qadir bhai :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tosto220 on October 24, 2012, 11:25:34 AM
Qadir Bhai Ab PRL tu milna possible nai, but you made a great call plz tell us for some other scrips which will move in next two months in which we can enter at this time.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: asad on October 24, 2012, 11:48:22 AM
thanks Qadir Bhai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: saifullahkhan7 on October 24, 2012, 04:48:19 PM
Qadir bhai honestly great call.......magar abb tu maan jain k yeh management bi-gairat hai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on October 24, 2012, 05:57:20 PM
Target above 75 Insha ALLAH .
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: saifullahkhan7 on October 24, 2012, 08:08:43 PM
InshaAllah :)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: asim.786 on October 25, 2012, 04:32:36 AM
If we see last three years eps we observe eps 20 or more in one quarter and similar loss 20 and above in next quarter so target price would be in between 70-80 Rs.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: AIS on October 25, 2012, 07:48:02 AM
Target above 75 Insha ALLAH .
Qadir, may Allah bless you for the generosity with which you share your knowledge with other people for their benefit. :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Saiti on October 25, 2012, 10:06:29 AM
Target above 75 Insha ALLAH .
Qadir, may Allah bless you for the generosity with which you share your knowledge with other people for their benefit. :thanks:

Loog koi mauqa haath se jane nahi daite AbdulQadir per tanqeed ka... ager koi call itni achi nahi bhi thee tou kia huwa... uss ney call he dii hey, koi divine order tou nahi day dia keh aisa na kia tou you will be beheaded.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: AIS on October 30, 2012, 10:35:41 AM
I have squared my long position today. Qadir bhai, I want to say a big Thank You to you  :thanks: :thanks: :thanks:  ::)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on October 30, 2012, 12:51:38 PM
very strong still

80 hona chaiye  :biggthumpup:

still holding
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: DEVDAS on October 30, 2012, 08:07:10 PM
TOM0RROW I WILL SAY BYE BYE TO PRL. THANKS @QADIR
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Saiti on October 30, 2012, 10:24:04 PM
What is the p/e ratio of refinery sector????
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on October 31, 2012, 12:01:00 AM
Definitely more than one  :D

Dub taak upper lock lag raha hai tab taak hold Karoo  ::)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: kashif on October 31, 2012, 09:18:16 AM
great call qadir bhaiiiii ....  :clap1: target of 75 achieved, mashallah  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: masamad on November 02, 2012, 12:27:40 AM
what abt PRL now.66% sold at 75+ while 33% still with me. seniors pls advise what to do;
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on November 14, 2012, 01:06:52 AM
Can be bought again around 70 rs.
Target above 80 Insha ALLAH.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on December 02, 2012, 11:02:36 PM
I have got a Buy for PRL with target over 100 by end of jan 2013

this is a tip i got from a freind, He was bullish on on the refineries

Please do your due dilligence and buy at your own risk  :good
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on December 02, 2012, 11:31:16 PM
I have got a Buy for PRL with target over 100 by end of jan 2013

this is a tip i got from a freind, He was bullish on on the refineries

Please do your due dilligence and buy at your own risk  :good

How people can do due delligence the Refinery margins were not that good in ongoing quarter and PRL results are also volatile and it financial position does not suit to buy it at current rates so how people can do due deligence.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on December 02, 2012, 11:33:12 PM
peoples problem not mine  :tongue:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: malikk on December 02, 2012, 11:35:36 PM
I have got a Buy for PRL with target over 100 by end of jan 2013
this is a tip i got from a freind, He was bullish on on the refineries
Please do your due dilligence and buy at your own risk  :good

How people can do due delligence the Refinery margins were not that good in ongoing quarter and PRL results are also volatile and it financial position does not suit to buy it at current rates so how people can do due deligence.
but qadir bhai , u gave a buy call around 70 on 14th nov  :dunno:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on December 02, 2012, 11:40:21 PM
I have got a Buy for PRL with target over 100 by end of jan 2013
this is a tip i got from a freind, He was bullish on on the refineries
Please do your due dilligence and buy at your own risk  :good

How people can do due delligence the Refinery margins were not that good in ongoing quarter and PRL results are also volatile and it financial position does not suit to buy it at current rates so how people can do due deligence.
but qadir bhai , u gave a buy call around 70 on 14th nov  :dunno:

My first buy call was at 59-60 and  my target was 75 which have acheived.
I gave the buy call on 14th nov because i know the broker who is going to play satta in PRL and he has brought good chunk b/e 70-75 and i dun write do your deligence before buying because i know its financial does not allow its price increase , it may on some undisclosed news or pure satta.
 
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tosto220 on December 03, 2012, 09:43:03 AM
qadir bhai should we but at today's rate
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: DEVDAS on December 03, 2012, 02:47:29 PM
qadir bhai should we but at today's rate

@Qadir has stopped giving tips
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on December 05, 2012, 06:39:33 PM
Get ready for the flight Insha ALLAH.
Target above 80
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: DEVDAS on December 05, 2012, 07:55:03 PM
Get ready for the flight Insha ALLAH.
Target above 80

@qadir, i think u r only backing ur old tips & not giving any further/new tip
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on December 05, 2012, 08:07:03 PM
Get ready for the flight Insha ALLAH.
Target above 80

@qadir, i think u r only backing ur old tips & not giving any further/new tip

lol qadir bhai kuch kehtay hain tu masla hota hai .. na bolien tab bhi masla :d

say 'thank you' and do your own work...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: DEVDAS on December 05, 2012, 08:13:52 PM
Get ready for the flight Insha ALLAH.
Target above 80

@qadir, i think u r only backing ur old tips & not giving any further/new tip

lol qadir bhai kuch kehtay hain tu masla hota hai .. na bolien tab bhi masla :d

say 'thank you' and do your own work...

I never get annoyed from his calls & appriciate his work.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on December 08, 2012, 11:12:48 PM
I have got a Buy for PRL with target over 100 by end of jan 2013

this is a tip i got from a freind, He was bullish on on the refineries

Please do your due dilligence and buy at your own risk  :good

Bought 2.5K avg 70  :good
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Poker Face on December 09, 2012, 12:54:14 AM
There are 'going concern' apprehensions on PRL by the auditors. It does not fulfil the criteria for value investment on the basis of fundamentals. Future of refineries is also not very bright.
Only satta can play
AVOID for all newbies
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on December 09, 2012, 01:08:42 AM
agreed
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: DEVDAS on December 09, 2012, 01:09:03 AM
last one month volume shows some satta game is on way soon till market is positive. but for investment it is not recommended.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: PK on December 09, 2012, 01:59:47 AM
I have got a Buy for PRL with target over 100 by end of jan 2013

this is a tip i got from a freind, He was bullish on on the refineries

Please do your due dilligence and buy at your own risk  :good

Bought 2.5K avg 70  :good
m having at 71.30 ..  :mad:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: llllll on December 09, 2012, 02:26:21 PM
007 bhai,
i am now totally confused on prl,
hold karoo ya early morning exit tomorrow, pl help
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on December 09, 2012, 05:54:01 PM
What's your average
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: llllll on December 10, 2012, 02:33:55 AM
bond bro,
thanks for coming back,
average is around 70 though i book small loss
after prl annual result
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on December 10, 2012, 03:54:32 AM
Don't worry hold it  :biggthumpup:

Put stop 66 though
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Murtaza8888 on December 10, 2012, 10:18:05 AM
 :dance :dance :dance

Laooooooooooooooooo PRL
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on December 10, 2012, 10:37:59 AM
 :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: PK on December 10, 2012, 10:45:33 AM
:biggthumpup: :thumbsup_anim: 007 .. mazaa agaya na prl mein aaj
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Murtaza8888 on December 10, 2012, 10:46:38 AM
 :thanks: :thanks:

Qadir Bhai................................ and Other Seniors
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on December 10, 2012, 12:49:43 PM
good result for holders  :good
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Count on December 10, 2012, 03:08:08 PM
It wouldnt cap today phir i doubt maal le nahi de gaya  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on December 10, 2012, 03:13:40 PM
with such small cap it is easily manipulated you cannot make a prediction based on technicals
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Count on December 10, 2012, 03:40:42 PM
with such small cap it is easily manipulated you cannot make a prediction based on technicals


That's not based on technicals. Just a board watching. You didnt read my post carefully. I used the word "doubt".
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on December 10, 2012, 03:42:19 PM
 :tongue:

100 hoga yeh share phir baat karain gay
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Count on December 10, 2012, 03:43:59 PM
:tongue:

100 hoga yeh share phir baat karain gay


I want it too.. hahaha  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Count on December 10, 2012, 09:37:34 PM
Get ready for the flight Insha ALLAH.
Target above 80


Have ure say on it again when mkt is getting weak and about to take correction?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: DEVDAS on December 10, 2012, 09:40:43 PM
Get ready for the flight Insha ALLAH.
Target above 80


Have ure say on it again when mkt is getting weak and about to take correction?

Looking at the today's volume , it seems game is over for now
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Koolfire on December 13, 2012, 10:12:06 PM
qadir bahi
is the tp still in place?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Murtaza8888 on December 26, 2012, 07:08:51 PM
Qadir Bhai Pzl. PRL ka ahee bata dee

Plz. Advice HOLD SELL or More buy?? My holding 71.50/= Plz. advice
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Murtaza8888 on December 27, 2012, 01:57:03 PM


Abdul Qadir Bhai Any news redgs. PRL.........??????????????

Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Valueestimator on December 27, 2012, 08:19:43 PM
at 71 buying price, holding is quite risk in anticipation of poor results in dec 12
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on December 27, 2012, 08:21:52 PM
Hold....... :D
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: ksemr on December 31, 2012, 07:35:17 AM
Thanks Qadeer bhai I just read your thread. I bought 5000 @71.10.
in mkt i heard rumours that it will touch 100. Now I will hold it
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: PK on January 03, 2013, 09:16:31 PM
 huhu  :bangin: Did nt sold at 73 and nw it's getting lower n lower ... Senior's aur kitni downside hai ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on January 04, 2013, 10:11:46 AM
satta abhi baki hai meray dost
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on January 24, 2013, 09:51:23 AM
Can be bought again around 70 rs.
Target above 80 Insha ALLAH.

Here we go the show begins... ;)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on January 24, 2013, 09:51:45 AM
Can be bought again around 70 rs.
Target above 80 Insha ALLAH.

Here we go the show begins...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: ksemr on January 24, 2013, 10:08:40 AM
Br Qadeer thanks for your advice...... :dance :dance :shoaby: :thumbsup_anim: :good
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: ksemr on January 24, 2013, 10:10:48 AM
Hold....... :D

Sorry yehan post kerna tha.. :dance :shoaby: :good :thumbsup_anim:
 when you suggest to hold it bought 5000@71.10
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on February 06, 2013, 05:15:58 PM
Laooooooooo 81
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: PK on February 06, 2013, 05:30:20 PM
Laooooooooo 81
another good call although it went down from 70 to 62 .. sincere thanks  :thanks: Qadir sb ..
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tariqaziz on February 06, 2013, 08:44:31 PM
please advice when i sell prl i bought @73 and what expacted eps in half year result
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tariqaziz on February 06, 2013, 08:47:26 PM
any expaction regarding divedend payout in coming half year result
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on February 07, 2013, 12:58:55 AM
Book profits and sell  :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tariqaziz on February 07, 2013, 07:27:15 AM
kia first qtr result k bad ki tarha is dafa bhi prl ki flight ready to fly high 4 or 5 upper cap any idea...........
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tariqaziz on February 07, 2013, 07:32:07 AM
prl ka first qtr result  eps 22 hai kahin is dafa loss tou show nahi kar raha ye prl hai bhai iska track record tou yahi bata ta hia please advice...............
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: PK on February 07, 2013, 04:49:04 PM
Book profits and sell  :thumbsup_anim:
007 sold all today ...out completely ... enjoyed .. it ... profit converted into fccl n jscl  :clap1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tariqaziz on February 09, 2013, 02:07:11 PM
seniors can you confirm these companies are still hold prl                                                                                                                       
shell pak 30%    pso 18%    chevran caltex 12%  nbp8%  nit 6% and advice me hold my quantity till half year b/m or sell imediatly
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: ksemr on February 09, 2013, 10:01:45 PM
hold ............. as Qadir br also advise me, and i am enjoying the ride
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tariqaziz on February 10, 2013, 11:30:29 AM
thanks thanks thanks  ksemr  and now i will hold laoooooo maaaal prl...........................
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tariqaziz on February 11, 2013, 10:30:26 PM
abdul qadir bhai kahan hain forum per apkey prl se realated coments nahi arhey half year result  shandar hai ya taaen taaen fish
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tariqaziz on February 13, 2013, 10:35:29 PM
14 feb 2013 pak refinery ltd ka half year result hai Abdul Qadir please advice result announcment se pehly exit kar len ya wait karen............................
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on February 13, 2013, 10:38:42 PM
hold with stop loss of 78
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tariqaziz on February 14, 2013, 07:33:52 AM
 :thanks: ABDUL QADIR
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abdul Qadir on February 14, 2013, 04:12:13 PM
Congratz to PRL holders now enjoy... :D
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on February 14, 2013, 04:21:35 PM
I have got a Buy for PRL with target over 100

this is a tip i got from a freind, He was bullish on on the refineries

Please do your due dilligence and buy at your own risk  :good

eps 12.30 2nd qtr and 34 re for halfyear
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on February 14, 2013, 04:22:26 PM
i dont hold it coz i sold at 78 anyways a good result no doubt
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: PK on February 14, 2013, 04:57:55 PM
qadir bhai target 80
007 target 100
good call bro's  :dance although me too sold arrnd 78
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on February 14, 2013, 10:16:15 PM
after this result 100 tou gaya cappo capp  :crying_anim02:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: ksemr on February 15, 2013, 07:16:56 AM
hold ............. as Qadir br also advise me, and i am enjoying the ride

Once again thanks Qadeer bhai for advising me to hold.
Really enjoying........tang per tang rekh ker ab betha hoan  :dance :dance :dance :dance :thumbsup_anim: :clap1: :shoaby:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfy on February 15, 2013, 11:39:03 AM
Dear Seniors, I bought PRL,  5,000 shares,  today at upper lock at Rs.90.45, please advice how long to hold? What should be my target price? Although I bought for some longer period of time....
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tariqaziz on February 16, 2013, 02:22:59 PM
 :good :thanks: :clap1:GOOD JOB MR ABDUL QADIR :good :thanks: :thumbsup_anim: :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfy on February 16, 2013, 03:16:22 PM
Dear Abdul Qadir, please advice me because I just made entry on Friday at upper lock.....? Please advice your comments...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: hammad01 on February 17, 2013, 02:50:20 AM
Irfy bhai although your question is to Qadir bhai but i thought i may remind you that hold means "if you already have that share then hold" and buy means "buy that share". Qadir bhai and other seniors have recently given so many hold calls and not buy calls. In the first place you shouldn't have entered into the script at 91 RS. Now I suggest better to book profits and keep checking Qadir bhai and other seniors threads for buy calls.
But still no one knows the market PRL may go beyond 100 or more. Other seniors can also recommend.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfy on February 17, 2013, 08:11:42 PM
Hammad Bhai, thanks for your comments. I would request Mr. Qadir and others also to give their views.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tariqaziz on February 18, 2013, 10:32:03 AM
I sold PRL at 93 bye bye PRL :good :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: ksemr on February 18, 2013, 10:57:26 AM
I am also thinking to sell it  :confused1: :skeptic: :skeptic:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: ksemr on February 18, 2013, 11:43:47 AM
sold @93  :clap1: :clap1: :shoaby:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfy on February 21, 2013, 05:35:16 PM
Dear Abdual Qadir and other respected members, please advice when to get in the PRL shares beacuse very high EPS and very low P/E ratio make me feel to jump into this share.... please advice when to do this?
Also, advice what target price of this share you foresee for June 2013/  end of financial year?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tariqaziz on February 24, 2013, 12:07:10 PM
BUY PRL ON 75 AND HOLD TILL 9-MONTH RESULT KUNKEY THIS IS SATTA ITEM YE RESULT ANNOUNCEMENT SE KUCH DIN PEHLY CHALTA HAI.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfy on March 08, 2013, 07:07:43 PM
Good gain in PRL....anybody has any idea where this share will reach before BM?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Hobbyist on March 27, 2013, 07:55:55 PM
Steady rise since Rs 3.0 billion TFCs announced on Mar 21 with 500m greenshoe option. May help counter the going concern issue.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on March 27, 2013, 09:14:30 PM
Steady rise since Rs 3.0 billion TFCs announced on Mar 21 with 500m greenshoe option. May help counter the going concern issue.

can you please share details of the tfc issue
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Saiti on April 09, 2013, 09:40:16 AM
- APL PA, would participate in bidding for acquisition of 100% stake of Chevron Pakistan & 12% stake in Pakistan Refinery Limited.

-FS
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on April 15, 2013, 11:05:34 PM
Steady rise since Rs 3.0 billion TFCs announced on Mar 21 with 500m greenshoe option. May help counter the going concern issue.

can you please share details of the tfc issue

they have applied for listing now.. there will be two types of tfcs .. i guess for financing isomerization unit etc

''As part of its commitment to the Government of Pakistan to set up Isomerisation Unit, the Refinery has
entered into license and engineering agreements for development of related Basic Engineering Package
(BEP). It is expected that BEP will be completed in the current year following which the EPC phase will
also start before the current year end. This project will convert light Naphtha into Motor Gasoline – a
more profitable product and thereby contribute positively to the profitability of the Company on one
hand and will reduce the burden of imports on the economy on the other. The Company is also actively
pursuing different options to undertake the projects (i) to produce Euro II specs High Speed Diesel; and
(ii) refinery upgradation through efficient and economical means.''
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Hobbyist on April 15, 2013, 11:58:11 PM
Steady rise since Rs 3.0 billion TFCs announced on Mar 21 with 500m greenshoe option. May help counter the going concern issue.

can you please share details of the tfc issue

here's the link of bod approval for tfc issue last month:
http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=042413
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on April 16, 2013, 12:04:09 AM
Steady rise since Rs 3.0 billion TFCs announced on Mar 21 with 500m greenshoe option. May help counter the going concern issue.

can you please share details of the tfc issue

here's the link of bod approval for tfc issue last month:
http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=042413

thanks
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on April 24, 2013, 11:17:38 PM
http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=043518

q3 loss of 7.95
9months eps 26.27
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rashi on July 20, 2013, 04:06:31 PM
Dear seniors, please comment on this share, as only PRL. SHEL and Byco are missing the rally in oil sector, also PRL has the same pattern of movement  as ATRL have for the last one year with good EPS
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Shah on July 20, 2013, 09:28:12 PM
ATRL have very good potential among other refineries, since last quarter NRL cheat with its share holders, so people avoid & angry, Coming news ATRL get huge profit due to buying low rate crude oil.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on July 31, 2013, 01:37:17 PM
Steady rise since Rs 3.0 billion TFCs announced on Mar 21 with 500m greenshoe option. May help counter the going concern issue.

can you please share details of the tfc issue

here's the link of bod approval for tfc issue last month:
http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=042413

ackk.. who priced this ?

http://epaper.dawn.com/Advt.php?StoryImage=31_07_2013_001_007

http://www.prl.com.pk/taraqqi/

http://www.prl.com.pk/downloads/prospectus_prl.pdf

http://www.prl.com.pk/downloads/subscription_form_prl.pdf

http://www.prl.com.pk/downloads/prl_tfc_credit_rating_report.pdf

not worth it
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: MZ on August 17, 2013, 11:12:15 PM
Pakistan Refinery launches bonds, targeting to raise Rs4 billion (http://tribune.com.pk/story/591189/pakistan-refinery-launches-bonds-targeting-to-raise-rs4-billion/)

The country’s third largest oil refinery has issued two separate term finance certificates (TFCs) to raise a total of Rs4 billion. The proceeds of the issue will be utilised to finance working capital requirements as well as capital expenditure needs.
TFC 1 will have a tenor of three years with an issue amount of Rs3 billion, including green shoe option of up to Rs500 million.
The green shoe option means investors can be sold more shares than originally planned by the issuer in case the demand is higher than expected. Following a quarterly payment schedule, it will pay profit at the rate of 10.55% per annum.
With an issue amount of Rs1 billion, TFC 2 will have a tenor of five years with an annual profit rate of 10.75% and a quarterly payment schedule. The minimum investment as well as the denomination of both types of bonds is Rs10,000. The subscription period began on Friday and will last three months.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on September 05, 2013, 10:35:52 AM
(http://www.kse.com.pk/newsimage/046126-1.gif)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on September 05, 2013, 11:10:33 AM
going concern assumption question honay kay bad kaun bharay ga 5 saal kay tfc
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Farzooq on September 07, 2013, 02:04:40 PM
Pak Refinery Limited profitability and cash flow to improve in FY14 – Pearl Research
By: Pearl Securities Limited

Synopsis…

Pak Refinery Limited (PRL) a public limited company listed at KSE has announced financial results for FY13. PRL is a hydro skimming refinery designed to process various imported and local crude oil to meet the domestic requirements of the country. The Company has performed much better in FY13 and posted Profit after Tax of PKR 596mn (EPS: PKR: 14.17/share) against loss of PKR 1,616 (EPS: PKR -46.16 /share) in FY12. Final Cash Dividend of PKR 2.85/share was given out for the year.

Better Functionality

Better performance is attributed by increased Top-Line with substantial assistance from higher operating profit and reduced finance cost. Net Revenue for PRL grew to PKR 132bn, up by 4% against PKR 127bn in FY12. Increased operating profit for the term was the main driving factor to the bottomline, clocking in at PKR 1,588mn in FY13 against PKR 29mn in the previous year, showing a phenomenal increase. Finance costs for the year were also reduced considerably by 61%, costing only PKR 358mn against PKR 921mn in FY12.

Higher distribution, administrative and other operating expenses were the only stresses for the bottom – line during FY13. Distribution cost increased by 14%, administrative expenses by 17% and other operating charges grew to PKR 94mn against just PKR 0.6mn in FY12.

Overview and Outlook…

Performance of the company has suffered over the past several years due to PKR devaluation increasing the cost of already inflated international oil prices, increased finance costs, depressed refining margins and burden of turnover tax. However, the outlook for the company in the future is looking more promising as 1.) better pricing mechanism introduced by the Government in 2011 and 2012, 2.) Setup of Isomerization unit to convert Naptha to Motor gasoline (as Motor Gasoline is a better margin product), 3.) Launch of two term financing certificates; TFC1 and TFC2 of PKR 4bn. These measures are expected to improve profitability and cash flow for the company moving forward into FY14.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on September 16, 2013, 02:19:11 PM
http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=046334&qsid=273

rights issue ?
5.5 billion inko kon deyga without improved equity situation
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: mra901 on September 16, 2013, 07:22:32 PM
http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=046334&qsid=273

rights issue ?
5.5 billion inko kon deyga without improved equity situation

not visible here and not on kse site
kindly add pic.....thanks
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on September 16, 2013, 10:02:03 PM
(http://www.kse.com.pk/newsimage/046334-1.gif)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Farzooq on October 14, 2013, 03:45:37 PM
prl lps 7.85
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on October 14, 2013, 03:46:25 PM
wehsi

sign of things to come for the refineries?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on October 14, 2013, 04:42:57 PM
prl lps 7.85

wehsi

sign of things to come for the refineries?

http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?0.2404314554296434&id=4&nid=047571

three results today all three ghatiya
nestle ksbp prl

thori aur pittai hojae  ;)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on December 29, 2013, 11:29:29 PM
Dark Cloud Cover in the making

negative closing tomorrow will confirm the bearish trend

positions can be reduced
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tahirdxb on February 12, 2014, 02:14:32 PM
PRL   Wed, Feb 19 2014   11:00      Accounts for Oct-Dec 13.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on February 20, 2014, 12:16:47 AM
PRL   Wed, Feb 19 2014   11:00      Accounts for Oct-Dec 13.

crappy result

http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?0.33587239286862314&id=4&nid=050978

lps 27 for q2
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Salammembers on February 20, 2014, 12:38:39 AM
1 more poor announcement, kia  shell( same group)  b disappoint karaay ga?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: MZ on February 20, 2014, 08:19:18 PM
PRL: the agony continues

Things have not been working in Pakistan Refinery Limiteds (PRL) favour. Both the first and second quarters have failed to rescue the downstream player from plunging into losses. That stands in stark contrast to last year.

While the refinery made a profit of Rs496 million in FY13, it seems like FY14 will take toll on the companys profitability, if the first half is any guide for the remainder of the fiscal year.

PRLs revenue grew by six percent year on year in 1H FY14. But, since the cost of sales moved in tandem, there were no gains for the gross profit. Gross margins nosedived from positive three percent in 1H FY13 to negative one percent in 1H FY14.

Though the costs of oil and condensate that the firm purchased have been relatively stable, rupee depreciation didn    let the company benefit from the situation. PRLs cost of sales entail around 95-99 percent of these purchases.

Even the 67 percent growth in other operating income and a 98 percent cut in other operating expenses did not do much good to the firms profitability as operating profits entered the unwanted negative area.

More damage was inflicted by sharply escalating finance cost. The high exchange losses made the refinery bear finance cost which was more than two times in 1H FY14 and more than five times in 2Q FY14 over corresponding periods of last year.

Moreover, the companys financial statement announcement on the Karachi Stock Exchange was accompanied by what could be a major source of concern for the investors: PRLs auditors have pointed out to accumulated losses of Rs4.09 billion as at 31st December 2013 with the firms current liabilities exceeding its current assets. That casts a doubt on the companys ability to continue as a going concern.

However, the company is hopeful that with the commencement of isomerization plant, it would be able to turn around its fortunes.


======================================================================================
PAKISTAN REFINERY LIMITED
======================================================================================
Rs (mn)                         1HFY14     1HFY13    YoY    2QFY14    2QFY13       YoY
======================================================================================
Net sales                       70,250     66,373     6%    35,928    34,716        3%
Gross profit                      (676)     1,962             (634)      758
Other operating exp                  3        116   -98%         3        45      -94%
Other opr income                   139         83    67%        53        46       14%
Operating profit                  (748)     1,744             (700)      664
Finance cost                       425        182   134%       239        44      440%
(Loss) / Profit after tax       (1,251)     1,198             (976)      431
EPS (Rs/Share)                     (36)        34              (28)       12
GP margin                         -1.0%      3.0%             -1.8%      2.2%
OP margin                         -1.1%      2.6%             -1.9%      1.9%
NP margin                         -1.8%      1.8%             -2.7%      1.2%
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Source: KSE Notice
======================================================================================
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: RSI Fan on March 17, 2014, 03:56:21 PM
http://epaper.dawn.com/?page=17_03_2014_603

Changing Oil Marketing Dynamics .......This explains the locks  ::)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sfaisalhassan on April 13, 2014, 11:47:02 PM
PRL UPGRADATION PROJECT
The Project’s primary objective is to ensure compliance with Government of Pakistan’s requirement of Euro-II diesel specification i.e. 500 parts per million (ppm) sulphur. Additionally, the Project will also help to pave the way for sustained profitability by altering the production slate towards increased production of higher margin products and thereby justifying the investment. The entire future product slate would be marketable and mainly for local consumption by adopting the following configuration:

Installation, including all ancillary equipments, of diesel hydro-treating facility to treat the total diesel produced by the refinery for meeting (Euro-II) grade i.e. 500 ppm.
Installation, including all ancillary equipment, of Thermal Gas Oil Unit (TGU) facility to convert an appreciable amount of fuel oil into diesel.
Front end development of the project is currently in progress to be accomplished in three stages (FED - 1, 2&3). Assurance model of project management by Stage Gate Review is being followed for governance.
Other support activities in progress include Soil Investigation, Seismic Hazard Assessment, QRA and Environment Impact Assessment.

http://www.prl.com.pk/project/projectstracture.php

???????????????????????????????????????????
 :skeptic: :skeptic: :skeptic: :skeptic: :skeptic: :skeptic: :skeptic: :skeptic: :skeptic:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on April 14, 2014, 07:34:43 PM
PRL UPGRADATION PROJECT
The Project’s primary objective is to ensure compliance with Government of Pakistan’s requirement of Euro-II diesel specification i.e. 500 parts per million (ppm) sulphur. Additionally, the Project will also help to pave the way for sustained profitability by altering the production slate towards increased production of higher margin products and thereby justifying the investment. The entire future product slate would be marketable and mainly for local consumption by adopting the following configuration:

Installation, including all ancillary equipments, of diesel hydro-treating facility to treat the total diesel produced by the refinery for meeting (Euro-II) grade i.e. 500 ppm.
Installation, including all ancillary equipment, of Thermal Gas Oil Unit (TGU) facility to convert an appreciable amount of fuel oil into diesel.
Front end development of the project is currently in progress to be accomplished in three stages (FED - 1, 2&3). Assurance model of project management by Stage Gate Review is being followed for governance.
Other support activities in progress include Soil Investigation, Seismic Hazard Assessment, QRA and Environment Impact Assessment.

http://www.prl.com.pk/project/projectstracture.php

???????????????????????????????????????????
 :skeptic: :skeptic: :skeptic: :skeptic: :skeptic: :skeptic: :skeptic: :skeptic: :skeptic:

kia pooch rahay ho bhai ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: newface on April 15, 2014, 08:17:18 PM
3rd Quarter Result

Loss Per Share Rs. (25.01)

Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: MZ on April 15, 2014, 09:51:15 PM
3rd Quarter Result

Loss Per Share Rs. (25.01)

http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?0.2589524306822568&id=4&nid=052937

9month eps = (25.01)

3rdQtr eps = 10.74
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: MZ on April 17, 2014, 07:46:01 AM
PRL-paltry 9M FY14

A year of profits, followed by a year into losses; the cyclical trend seen in Pakistan Refinery Limiteds (PRL) profitability since FY10 till 9M FY14 suggests that its profitability might just remain below par in FY14.

The announcement by the refinery on the stock exchange a couple of days ago gives a clear picture of where the firm stands for the ongoing fiscal year. While the third quarter performance on its own requires acknowledgment, overall profitability for 9M FY14 collapsed as compared to 9M FY13.

Growth in top line during 9M FY14 was eaten away by cost of sales, sending gross margins downhill. And while rupee depreciation for the most part of the period under review was the main reason for the escalation in costs of oil and condensate purchases--together, these two make up 95-99 percent of PRLs total cost of sales--the ongoing rupee appreciation was expected to be pacifying for the refinery.

But the effects are not visible, at least on the already low Gross Refining Margins (GRMs). Besides poor GRMs, the rest of the damage to the bottom line was done by 68 percent year-on-year rise in finance cost.

The companys performance in FY14 so far runs contrary to what has been happening to its stock price. PRLs share price escalated in early march 2014 partly due to its plans to acquire new technology from an international company, and partly due to PSOs plan to buy 4.5 percent stake in the refinery from Chevron. (That was earlier pointed out by BR Research in a story titled Whats going on with PRL? published on March 26, 2014.)

However, another twist to PRLs share price comes in with market pundits pointing towards the misinterpretation by the market about the chances of buyback besides PSO buying the stakes from Chevron.

That said; poor GRMs largely sum up the downstream refinery segments dwindling performance. In PRLs case, the commencement of its isomerization

plant can be the profitability trigger.

On the circular debt impact, the refineries have relatively less exposure as most of local consumption is import-driven.
==================================================================================
Pakistan Refinery Limited
==================================================================================
Rs (mn)                     9MFY14    9MFY13    YoY     3QFY14    3QFY13       YoY
==================================================================================
Net sales                  105,746    96,166    10%     35,496    29,792       19%
Gross profit                 (277)     2,024               399        61      559%
Operating profit             (346)     1,759               402        14     2702%
Finance cost                   511       305    68%         86       123      -30%
(Loss)/Profit after tax      (875)       920               376     (278)
EPS (Rs/Share)             (25.01)     26.27             10.74    (7.95)
GP margin                   -0.26%     2.10%             1.13%     0.20%
OP margin                   -0.33%     1.83%             1.13%     0.05%
NP margin                   -0.83%     0.96%             1.06%    -0.93%
==================================================================================
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on April 17, 2014, 10:54:04 AM
PRL-paltry 9M FY14

A year of profits, followed by a year into losses; the cyclical trend seen in Pakistan Refinery Limiteds (PRL) profitability since FY10 till 9M FY14 suggests that its profitability might just remain below par in FY14.

The announcement by the refinery on the stock exchange a couple of days ago gives a clear picture of where the firm stands for the ongoing fiscal year. While the third quarter performance on its own requires acknowledgment, overall profitability for 9M FY14 collapsed as compared to 9M FY13.

Growth in top line during 9M FY14 was eaten away by cost of sales, sending gross margins downhill. And while rupee depreciation for the most part of the period under review was the main reason for the escalation in costs of oil and condensate purchases--together, these two make up 95-99 percent of PRLs total cost of sales--the ongoing rupee appreciation was expected to be pacifying for the refinery.

But the effects are not visible, at least on the already low Gross Refining Margins (GRMs). Besides poor GRMs, the rest of the damage to the bottom line was done by 68 percent year-on-year rise in finance cost.

The companys performance in FY14 so far runs contrary to what has been happening to its stock price. PRLs share price escalated in early march 2014 partly due to its plans to acquire new technology from an international company, and partly due to PSOs plan to buy 4.5 percent stake in the refinery from Chevron. (That was earlier pointed out by BR Research in a story titled Whats going on with PRL? published on March 26, 2014.)

However, another twist to PRLs share price comes in with market pundits pointing towards the misinterpretation by the market about the chances of buyback besides PSO buying the stakes from Chevron.

That said; poor GRMs largely sum up the downstream refinery segments dwindling performance. In PRLs case, the commencement of its isomerization

plant can be the profitability trigger.

On the circular debt impact, the refineries have relatively less exposure as most of local consumption is import-driven.
==================================================================================
Pakistan Refinery Limited
==================================================================================
Rs (mn)                     9MFY14    9MFY13    YoY     3QFY14    3QFY13       YoY
==================================================================================
Net sales                  105,746    96,166    10%     35,496    29,792       19%
Gross profit                 (277)     2,024               399        61      559%
Operating profit             (346)     1,759               402        14     2702%
Finance cost                   511       305    68%         86       123      -30%
(Loss)/Profit after tax      (875)       920               376     (278)
EPS (Rs/Share)             (25.01)     26.27             10.74    (7.95)
GP margin                   -0.26%     2.10%             1.13%     0.20%
OP margin                   -0.33%     1.83%             1.13%     0.05%
NP margin                   -0.83%     0.96%             1.06%    -0.93%
==================================================================================

what absolute trash
business recorder used to be good
what happened to them :(
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: akhterrasool on April 17, 2014, 03:50:04 PM
terrible result..... :o
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on April 18, 2014, 01:44:49 AM
3 upper lock lag Gaye Laooo aisa bad result har share main
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on June 10, 2014, 06:00:11 PM
Installation of ISOM unit will increase gasoline output by 120,000 -140,000 tonnes per annum
Any idea what would per share impact be on PRL ?

Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on July 06, 2014, 12:15:34 AM
 :ohmy:

isko kia hogiya hai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: MZ on July 06, 2014, 12:24:52 AM
:ohmy:

isko kia hogiya hai

a missed opportunity this time going 200 plus.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Afzal on July 06, 2014, 11:31:38 AM
 is ti safe to enter in it now? around 180? Really it was a missed oppurtunity seen in last two days of the week  :down:   what it TP of this current rally
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on July 06, 2014, 03:55:36 PM
is ti safe to enter in it now? around 180? Really it was a missed oppurtunity seen in last two days of the week  :down:   what it TP of this current rally

satta ho raha hai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Kashif.toufiq on July 06, 2014, 04:12:09 PM
HASCOL group Kai orders chl rhay hain from 130,s
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on July 16, 2014, 10:08:46 AM
(http://www.kse.com.pk/newsimage/55869-1.gif)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Kashif.toufiq on July 16, 2014, 10:14:00 AM
(http://www.kse.com.pk/newsimage/55869-1.gif)

HASCOL group Kai orders chl rhay hain from 130,s


 :rtfm:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Afzal on August 18, 2014, 01:37:52 PM
Seniors

ab is ki kia advise hay? meeting and result ki kia hope?

I have it @ 179 for since many weeks

regards
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on October 21, 2014, 02:49:26 PM
:ohmy:

isko kia hogiya hai

a missed opportunity this time going 200 plus.

we missed this ...

 :laugh:

(http://www.kse.com.pk/newsimage/59087-1.gif)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on November 11, 2014, 06:07:00 AM
(http://kse.com.pk/newsimage/60235-1.gif)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: MZ on March 11, 2015, 10:23:03 PM
PRL in difficult times

With 1HFY15 financial performance announced yesterday at KSE, it seems that Pakistan Refinery Limiteds (KSE: PRL) profitability might just remain below par in FY15. A 50 percent year-on-year drop in 2QFY15 revenues and a 28 percent year-on-year drop in 1HFY15 revenues remained the key inhibitor in the refinerys financial performance.

As a result, gross margins slipped further into the negative zone and the operating and net margins followed suit. Even the effects of continued weakness in crude oil prices, and hence improving industry-wide gross refining margins cannot be seen in PRLs financial statements. A larger fall in crude oil prices than the petroleum products was expected to benefit the domestic refineries; According to a research note by Foundation Securities, PRL GRMs witnessed an improvement to $10 per barrel in 2QFY15 against $3 per barrel in 1QFY15.

The Board of Directors so announced along the financial performance a right issue of 280 million ordinary shares of Rs10 per share in proportion of eight right shares for every one ordinary share held. This right issue will generate Rs2.80 billion in equity. The refinery decided for a right issue to raise funds to increase the firms equity and meet working capital requirements; the company had negative equity of Rs6.30 billion due to accumulated losses of Rs7.06 billion, and PRLs current liabilities exceed its current assets, which put a serious question mark on the firms going-concern state.

The right issue will benefit the firms growth projects eventually as it will reduce the companys reliance on bank borrowing, reduce finance cost and hence result in smoother operations, which will lead to quicker completion of its long awaited projects like the Isomerization plant, Hydro De-sulphurization Unit, and Refinery Upgrade Project. The management claims that the Isomerization project will increase petrol production by double along with the conversion of Naptha for export. The Diesel Hydro De-sulphurization unit will produce Euro-II complaint diesel.

==================================================================================
Pakistan Refinery Limited
==================================================================================
Rs (mn)                  1HFY15    1HFY14     YoY     2QFY15     2QFY14        YoY
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Net sales                50,569    70,250    -28%     17,434     35,928       -51%
Gross loss              (3,199)     (676)    373%    (2,110)      (634)       233%
Distribution cost           100       100      0%         44         51       -14%
Administrative exp          122       108     13%         66         64         2%
Operating loss          (3,330)     (748)    345%    (2,198)      (700)       214%
Finance income/(cost)     (247)     (425)    -42%         41      (239)
Loss after taxation     (3,577)   (1,251)    186%    (2,120)      (976)       117%
Loss per share (Rs)    (102.21)   (35.74)    186%    (60.58)    (27.90)       117%
Gross margin             -6.33%    -0.96%            -12.10%     -1.76%
Operating margin         -6.59%    -1.06%            -12.61%     -1.95%
Net margin               -7.07%    -1.78%            -12.16%     -2.72%
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Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on March 12, 2015, 05:12:38 PM
Satta expected in rights share expected at current price xR price is 27 so right share traded in between 20-25 must buy for short term price of 192
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on March 12, 2015, 05:18:22 PM
Laoo prl lock
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on March 12, 2015, 06:15:35 PM
Any one can advice on this script 800% right diey hn at 10 paar value mane aj buy kiey hn at uper cap so m is ko sold krdun ya rakuhn for a mid term till jan and after the right trading iss ko kahan trade hote dakhte hn company in loss Rs.(120)/share Plz reply must.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on March 13, 2015, 12:11:11 AM
Hold xR 27 ho ga right ka bohat bara satta ho ga xR 35 per trade ho ga


Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on March 13, 2015, 12:47:13 AM
Hold xR 27 ho ga right ka bohat bara satta ho ga xR 35 per trade ho ga

kia scene hai yeh ..  jitna bara loss utna bara satta ?  :down:

Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on March 13, 2015, 01:38:51 PM
Laoo prl 190
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on March 13, 2015, 04:08:49 PM
Hold xR 27 ho ga right ka bohat bara satta ho ga xR 35 per trade ho ga

Thanx Nadeem Bhai :good
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on March 14, 2015, 05:48:45 PM
Buy before the book closure announcement after book closure announcement continuous upper lock with thin volume
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Rizwan Bhatti on March 14, 2015, 07:18:22 PM
Buy before the book closure announcement after book closure announcement continuous upper lock with thin volume
when is book closure?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on March 14, 2015, 07:21:43 PM
Not yet announce may be annc next week
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Rizwan Bhatti on March 14, 2015, 07:26:23 PM
Not yet announce may be annc next week

so what u recommend for this buying price etc?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on March 14, 2015, 07:36:15 PM
U can get approx 10-12 Rs profit after xR price of 28 now
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on March 14, 2015, 07:38:22 PM
At current price of 175 XR price 28.33 but I think share price traded above 35 XR price and right share traded above 25
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Rizwan Bhatti on March 14, 2015, 07:41:38 PM
At current price of 175 XR price 28.33 but I think share price traded above 35 XR price and right share traded above 25

when will right trading will be start?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on March 14, 2015, 07:46:56 PM
The rights issue is subject to approval by SECP. Book closure date will be announced only after the approval is received from SECP.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Rizwan Bhatti on March 14, 2015, 07:53:17 PM
The rights issue is subject to approval by SECP. Book closure date will be announced only after the approval is received from SECP.

 :skeptic:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on March 14, 2015, 09:40:40 PM
Simply this is the procedure regulatar approval is required hopefully book closure annc next week
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on March 17, 2015, 07:48:36 PM
At current price of 175 XR price 28.33 but I think share price traded above 35 XR price and right share traded above 25
nadeem Bhai  kya khabar hay prl ki
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on March 17, 2015, 08:06:54 PM
Waiting for book closure market index not support
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on March 29, 2015, 03:27:49 AM
http://www.prl.com.pk/downloads/hyr2015.pdf

directors are living in some fantasy world ... they dont need 2.8 billion they need 28 billion for the refinery to remain operational
It would have been better to write off their investment and close the refinery instead of wasting more money.

(http://puu.sh/gTANX/f8c7c18db0.png)

 (http://puu.sh/gTAUt/942096e170.png)

(http://puu.sh/gTB5T/fc817657da.png)

so they are in negative equity, will raise 2.8 billion rupees, and still be in negative equity, and try to do a 40 billion project how ?

Banks keep increasing their lending cuz thats they only way they get their old money back  :laugh:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on March 29, 2015, 03:30:17 AM
and obviously ...

(http://puu.sh/gTBEB/fd66726746.png)

 uuu
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on March 29, 2015, 02:27:46 PM
and obviously ...

(http://puu.sh/gTBEB/fd66726746.png)

 uuu

That shows how credible our credit agency especially when dealing with govt sector
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on March 29, 2015, 02:41:36 PM
and obviously ...

(http://puu.sh/gTBEB/fd66726746.png)

 uuu

That shows how credible our credit agency especially when dealing with govt sector


PRL is not a govt sector/public sector company.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: atombum on March 29, 2015, 02:57:45 PM
YES, YOU ARE RIGHT SAME
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on March 29, 2015, 05:36:21 PM
and obviously ...

(http://puu.sh/gTBEB/fd66726746.png)

 uuu

That shows how credible our credit agency especially when dealing with govt sector


PRL is not a govt sector/public sector company.

Thankful for the correction
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on March 29, 2015, 05:52:53 PM
SBM bro

I agree with ur analysis but the PRL management seems optimistic that the isomerization and DHDS project (likely to be completed in 1st quarter 2015-16) will turn the tables.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on March 29, 2015, 05:56:26 PM
U can get approx 10-12 Rs profit after xR price of 28 now

Nadeem bro;

PRL was UL/almost UL on friday despite more than 700 points decline.

Can we act on the above advice/info in the current market scenario??? Is it still valid???
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on March 29, 2015, 05:58:31 PM
I m optimistic
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on March 29, 2015, 06:20:28 PM
SBM bro

I agree with ur analysis but the PRL management seems optimistic that the isomerization and DHDS project (likely to be completed in 1st quarter 2015-16) will turn the tables.

Well I did some maths some time ago, impact on prl is quite significant on the additional volumes of petrol sold but refinery margins are pretty volatile and have been in securlar decline for sometime now especially for small n simple refineries like prl.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on March 29, 2015, 06:36:57 PM
SBM bro

I agree with ur analysis but the PRL management seems optimistic that the isomerization and DHDS project (likely to be completed in 1st quarter 2015-16) will turn the tables.

Well I did some maths some time ago, impact on prl is quite significant on the additional volumes of petrol sold but refinery margins are pretty volatile and have been in securlar decline for sometime now especially for small n simple refineries like prl.

After this huge right issue impact would not be that much
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 03, 2015, 10:07:52 PM
Laoo prl 190
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 06, 2015, 11:46:45 AM
At current price of 175 XR price 28.33 but I think share price traded above 35 XR price and right share traded above 25
laoo prl ki double century
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: shahzad915 on April 07, 2015, 03:20:03 PM
Seniors,

Please let us know that at what rate right shares will be traded
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 07, 2015, 04:26:11 PM
Between 25-30 inshaallah
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: syeduzair on April 09, 2015, 12:45:52 PM
At current price of 175 XR price 28.33 but I think share price traded above 35 XR price and right share traded above 25

Nadeem bhai rights price will be 25 or right shares price??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: syeduzair on April 09, 2015, 12:55:34 PM
NadeemKhaliq bhai Rights ki price around 25 hogi sahi??

100 shares @ 180 = 18000. and after XR price will be Rs30. if we sell at this rate, we will get Rs.3000

800 rights @ 25 =20000.. total humko 22k-23k  wapis aenge....  aesa he hai ya kuch ghalat kehrha mai??

seniors pls help in this matter.. still confused  :skeptic:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 09, 2015, 04:10:49 PM
At buying price of 180 XR price will be 28.88
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: syeduzair on April 09, 2015, 05:29:45 PM
didn't take entry in it because of unclear picture of rights trading price... phle pata lag jata k rights kitne pe open honge agar 180 pe close ho to leleta entry.  :crying_anim02:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: JF on April 09, 2015, 07:31:28 PM
PRL will open at Rs.28.93/- and right will trade at Rs.18+

But still they not announced schedule of trading of RIGHT shares
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sheikhumer on April 09, 2015, 10:57:44 PM
my friend price of rights will be determined by regular market price closed on the last day b4 trading of rights will be started.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on April 09, 2015, 11:22:25 PM
Rights will be 10 rs less than the price of share price on last day of trading, if prl on 35 prlr1 will be at 25
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: syeduzair on April 09, 2015, 11:36:48 PM
Online bhai pehle batana tha na ye 1 din  :console:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 11, 2015, 02:52:33 PM
Laoo cap o cap 35 :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: umarm on April 13, 2015, 10:59:17 AM
Can any body guide kay yeh kahan tak gaya ga. Agar 1-2 days men 35 ka milay to entry bantee ha ya nahee ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: JF on April 13, 2015, 04:22:34 PM
long term mindset k saath 35-45 not bad....
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 13, 2015, 04:30:51 PM
Laoo cap o cap 35
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: ajaz115 on April 14, 2015, 10:01:43 AM
i think 50 k baad locktootay ga :skeptic:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 14, 2015, 05:43:14 PM
I m lucky got 100 share today
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: kahaf on April 14, 2015, 05:48:09 PM
wow
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: umarm on April 14, 2015, 05:49:43 PM
No body is seller. Aab aisa lagta ha kay upper cap 35 ki bajai 40 tak chalay ga.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 14, 2015, 05:51:04 PM
No body is seller. Aab aisa lagta ha kay upper cap 35 ki bajai 40 tak chalay ga.
agreed
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: ksenewb on April 14, 2015, 06:04:14 PM
No body is seller. Aab aisa lagta ha kay upper cap 35 ki bajai 40 tak chalay ga.

No matter how strong the cap is, doesnt mean k there will be another one the next day etc..
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: kahaf on April 14, 2015, 06:28:30 PM
ummeed per dunya qaim hai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: baqii on April 14, 2015, 07:13:56 PM
Any when will be right shares trading start?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 15, 2015, 04:48:55 PM
I think lock will be open in between 38-42
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: umarm on April 15, 2015, 07:01:37 PM
Iis nay to kamal ker diya ha.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on April 15, 2015, 07:44:00 PM
I think lock will be open in between 38-42
IN SHA ALLAH nadeem Bhai holding 2k and waiting for 16k rights ,
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 15, 2015, 07:55:40 PM
I think lock will be open in between 38-42
IN SHA ALLAH nadeem Bhai holding 2k and waiting for 16k rights ,
inshaallah right share will trade above 25
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 15, 2015, 09:07:45 PM
I think lock will be open in between 38-42
IN SHA ALLAH nadeem Bhai holding 2k and waiting for 16k rights ,
inshaallah right share will trade above 25
inshaALLAH nadeem bhai meri tu dua he 30 se above trade ho :thumbsup_anim: :tongue:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 16, 2015, 03:18:09 PM
http://kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?0.01544521190226078&id=4&nid=064875

(http://www.kse.com.pk/newsimage/64880-1.gif)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 16, 2015, 03:19:10 PM
Good Result MashaAllah
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abid70 on April 16, 2015, 03:46:30 PM
Good Result MashaAllah

RESULT IS ENCOURAGING... I THINK RIGHTS KO SUBSCRIBE KARAN CHAHIAY..... NADEEM BHAI YOUR GUIDANCE IS REQUIRED
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 16, 2015, 04:31:45 PM
yes i think we should go for subscribing the right rest nadeem bhai better advise
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 16, 2015, 04:53:19 PM
Definitely those who hold for the period of 2 years getting huge return
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: umarm on April 16, 2015, 06:52:51 PM
Definitely those who hold for the period of 2 years getting huge return

Nadeem bhai stock exchange men 2 years to bohat zaida time hota ha. Pls give your suggestions on short term.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 16, 2015, 09:56:21 PM
Short term 38-42 those who purchase on last day have a freight price of 26.8 so return of 12Rs in one month
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on April 16, 2015, 10:32:35 PM
I think lock will be open in between 38-42
IN SHA ALLAH nadeem Bhai holding 2k and waiting for 16k rights ,
nadeem Bhai excellant result k baad lock should continue next whole week
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 17, 2015, 01:32:16 PM
Now its seems that upper lock open in between 45-50 good gof investors who hold for fight shares
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 20, 2015, 12:52:23 PM
Very strong upper lock
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 20, 2015, 09:08:12 PM
Brilliant show today
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on April 20, 2015, 11:16:44 PM
looks like cap will open around 45-47
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Eager Novice on April 21, 2015, 01:51:38 AM
Is there a reason for such strong performance or could it be a pump and dump play?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 21, 2015, 06:19:00 PM
Now its look likes share price heading towards 50
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: shahzad915 on April 21, 2015, 08:50:33 PM
Now its look likes share price heading towards 50

Nadeem bhai,

should we add more when lock opens for short term gain?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on April 21, 2015, 08:53:28 PM
Now its look likes share price heading towards 50
IN SHA ALLAH waiting for rights holding 2k prl and waiting 16k rights
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 21, 2015, 08:57:37 PM
Now its look likes share price heading towards 50

Nadeem bhai,

should we add more when lock opens for short term gain?
no better to take entry in other scripts
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on April 21, 2015, 09:18:31 PM
Holding 2500 shares. Will get 20000 right AL.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on April 21, 2015, 09:56:02 PM
Holding 2500 shares. Will get 20000 right AL.

Better to sell then subscribe imho
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on April 21, 2015, 10:01:35 PM
u are right. Will sell at first opportunity.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: masood15 on April 21, 2015, 10:44:13 PM
After xr r rs. 8 par milay ga :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on April 21, 2015, 10:49:59 PM
After xr r rs. 8 par milay ga :thumbsup_anim:
kyun bhai 15 lower lock laganey ka programme hey aap ka, I think rights will settle between 28-32
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 22, 2015, 12:06:04 AM
After xr r rs. 8 par milay ga :thumbsup_anim:

Sir xr tu ho chuka he..or ap 8 rs bol rhe hn yh 80 :confused1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: masood15 on April 22, 2015, 07:07:11 AM
Unpaid Right share Rs. 8 ka milay ga pl. Intizar karain PRL ko loss bohat hay
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on April 22, 2015, 08:40:06 AM
Right allotment Should trade/settle down between 25-30.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on April 22, 2015, 08:55:13 AM
3Q Eps was Rs. 31+ per share.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on April 22, 2015, 09:11:46 AM
Unpaid Right share Rs. 8 ka milay ga pl. Intizar karain PRL ko loss bohat hay

It PRL dude not BYCO. There was loss last year too but did the share price go down? No, it went up instead. Strong sentiments are associated with this share. You will see further turnaround in full year result.  Also there were massive losses in year 2009 & 2010 as well. Just check the price of share during those years for reference.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on April 22, 2015, 09:28:35 AM
Unpaid Right share Rs. 8 ka milay ga pl. Intizar karain PRL ko loss bohat hay

It PRL dude not BYCO. There was loss last year too but did the share price go down? No, it went up instead. Strong sentiments are associated with this share. You will see further turnaround in full year result.  Also there were massive losses in year 2009 & 2010 as well. Just check the price of share during those years for reference.

price was high cuz hascol was buying a stake in it to secure supplies,
Its a pretty crap refinery otherwise
as i have mentioned before, even after the rights issue the company will have negative equity
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: shahzad915 on April 22, 2015, 12:56:45 PM
when trading of right shares will start
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: masood15 on April 22, 2015, 01:42:12 PM
Laoo right shares 8 main   :thumbsdown_anim:y
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: masood15 on April 22, 2015, 04:03:24 PM
Laoo unpaid right shares 8 main. 8 say kam main dil khol kay kharidari karna
 Kuch na kuch to mil hi jayga to phir laoooooo 8 say kam par
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on April 22, 2015, 04:07:43 PM
Laoo unpaid right shares 8 main. 8 say kam main dil khol kay kharidari karna
 Kuch na kuch to mil hi jayga to phir laoooooo 8 say kam par
day dreaming
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 22, 2015, 04:18:26 PM
In worst conditions right share trading at 25 and in good condition 30-35




Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 22, 2015, 05:51:31 PM
nadeem bhai rights men trading kb se start ho rhi he any idea???????? :good
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on April 22, 2015, 05:58:14 PM
nadeem bhai rights men trading kb se start ho rhi he any idea???????? :good
date not announced yet
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Dehan on April 22, 2015, 05:59:37 PM
nadeem bhai rights men trading kb se start ho rhi he any idea???????? :good
Bohat bara satta ho ga PRLR mein.
Maza aia ga is k sattay mein.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on April 22, 2015, 06:02:24 PM
In worst conditions right share trading at 25 and in good condition 30-35

floor o floor wala scene hoga pibtl jaisa?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 22, 2015, 06:19:11 PM
nadeem bhai rights men trading kb se start ho rhi he any idea???????? :good
Bohat bara satta ho ga PRLR mein.
Maza aia ga is k sattay mein.
agreed with dehan sahib
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 22, 2015, 06:46:12 PM
nadeem bhai rights men trading kb se start ho rhi he any idea???????? :good
date not announced yet

nadeem bhai rights men trading kb se start ho rhi he any idea???????? :good
Bohat bara satta ho ga PRLR mein.
Maza aia ga is k sattay mein.

nadeem bhai rights men trading kb se start ho rhi he any idea???????? :good
Bohat bara satta ho ga PRLR mein.
Maza aia ga is k sattay mein.
agreed with dehan sahib

thanx chlye dekhte han maza ayega  :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 23, 2015, 04:54:29 PM
Very strong buy almost one million. Shares bid in upper lock whole day heading towards half century
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on April 23, 2015, 07:39:05 PM
Very strong buy almost one million. Shares bid in upper lock whole day heading towards half century
nadeem bhai rights trading kub tak expected hey, still no notice of rights on kse website
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 23, 2015, 07:51:36 PM
I think may be start from 4-5-15
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ummair on April 23, 2015, 09:34:38 PM
Right buy krne chahe?? aur kis level pe
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on April 23, 2015, 09:39:01 PM
Right buy krne chahe?? aur kis level pe
ager rights buy kerna hey to buy on last days of trading in rights as lower locks expected early on like in pibtl
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: masood15 on April 23, 2015, 10:23:30 PM
Yes pibtl ki tarha satta chalayga aur pibtl ki tarha last day ko Rs. 8 par milayga
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: umarm on April 23, 2015, 10:28:13 PM
Yes pibtl ki tarha satta chalayga aur pibtl ki tarha last day ko Rs. 8 par milayga

Aap ki tension say Lagta ha aap pehlay entry nahee mar sakay. Aab bhee agar 8 ka wait kertay rahay to right bhee nahee malay ga.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on April 23, 2015, 10:30:29 PM
Jalney waley ka moun kala :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: masood15 on April 23, 2015, 10:40:51 PM
Sahi kehrahy ho app ko tension shoro hogaihay kay pehlay jo mall pakra hay right bhi us damain kasay sale hoga ab last day tak tension main raho  :$:  huhu


Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on April 23, 2015, 10:42:23 PM
Yes pibtl ki tarha satta chalayga aur pibtl ki tarha last day ko Rs. 8 par milayga

Get your facts right first. Even PIBTL closed its right trading at 14.38. And this one will be much better than PIBTL. First do some research on the company rather than posting random guess without any justification. Free float of PRL is very limited with around 71% shareholding with PSO, HASCOL, SHEL & Chevron. And believe me even those who bought on last day of trading before XR will get good profit in this one even if they don't subscribe right shares. So those on hold are in win win situation. My cost of right shares if i sell my regular share tomorrow will be around Rs. 13.2.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 23, 2015, 10:46:20 PM
Yes pibtl ki tarha satta chalayga aur pibtl ki tarha last day ko Rs. 8 par milayga

Aap ki tension say Lagta ha aap pehlay entry nahee mar sakay. Aab bhee agar 8 ka wait kertay rahay to right bhee nahee malay ga.
Mil jaiega 8 p mager us k liey market ko 20k p hona hoga:p
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Eager Novice on April 24, 2015, 11:02:27 AM
Sold at 49.40.  Now waiting for right shares!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Abid70 on April 24, 2015, 11:20:37 AM
Sold at 49.40.  Now waiting for right shares!

me too sold at 49.15
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: umarm on April 24, 2015, 06:46:44 PM
I am also 100 out . Now lets see what happens when the rights comes.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on April 24, 2015, 06:54:51 PM
Sold at 49.4.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on April 24, 2015, 07:13:00 PM
Rights 40 per trade Ager ho jatey hain to double banta hey
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on April 24, 2015, 07:27:53 PM
Allah kare aisa ho. Aap ke moonh mein ghee shakar.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 24, 2015, 08:46:58 PM
Week holders exit today now share price heading towards 55
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on April 24, 2015, 10:33:23 PM
Allah kare aisa ho. Aap ke moonh mein ghee shakar.

Akylay akylay mithaiyan na khain humain bi sath shamil kr lain  :tongue:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 24, 2015, 10:33:51 PM
60% out :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 24, 2015, 10:39:57 PM
Don't worry u have 40% now very strong unlimited buy at upper lock seen todsy
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 24, 2015, 10:55:40 PM
Don't worry u have 40% now very strong unlimited buy at upper lock seen todsy

insha ALLAH ab 55 pe he sold krenge :shoaby: :shoaby:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on April 26, 2015, 08:59:47 PM
MA SHA ALLAH 11 consecutive caps, rights 40+ per sale ho Jain to Maza as jai ,
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 27, 2015, 03:41:11 PM
Week holders exit today now share price heading towards 55

 :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 27, 2015, 04:47:30 PM
Week holders exit today now share price heading towards 55

 :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance
laoo prl 55+
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on April 27, 2015, 08:57:35 PM
Now what should we call this rally a pure SATTA
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on April 27, 2015, 10:56:34 PM
Now what should we call this rally a pure SATTA

Maybe but one reason can be limited shares held by public. Major shareholding is with big companies.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 28, 2015, 09:26:17 PM
Masha ALLAH good move insha ALLAH 60 + hoga :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: :dance :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 28, 2015, 09:33:54 PM
Mall corner ho raha hey
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: space on April 28, 2015, 09:52:26 PM
Let me 1st say I have no real idea about why price of this stock has moved up this fast, but what i do know is pre-rights issue the corp was with negative equity meaning it was bankrupt, couple of qtrs ago I recall it posted loss per share of > rs60 per share and it sky rocketed to peaks of 140 (i think) now post rights issue again its gone cap o cap, why ? I do not know, but I again reiterate the company has a history of showing massive loss per share, who drives it up and why, only they know, I would never invest in something like this, satta/gamble sure, but long term investment no way, not me not in PRL
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Valueestimator on April 28, 2015, 10:04:23 PM
Let me 1st say I have no real idea about why price of this stock has moved up this fast, but what i do know is pre-rights issue the corp was with negative equity meaning it was bankrupt, couple of qtrs ago I recall it posted loss per share of > rs60 per share and it sky rocketed to peaks of 140 (i think) now post rights issue again its gone cap o cap, why ? I do not know, but I again reiterate the company has a history of showing massive loss per share, who drives it up and why, only they know, I would never invest in something like this, satta/gamble sure, but long term investment no way, not me not in PRL

see the ownership structure and you will get some good insight about the reason for price movement.

i think pso has some stake in this and wanted to increase its stake
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on April 28, 2015, 10:15:37 PM
Let me 1st say I have no real idea about why price of this stock has moved up this fast, but what i do know is pre-rights issue the corp was with negative equity meaning it was bankrupt, couple of qtrs ago I recall it posted loss per share of > rs60 per share and it sky rocketed to peaks of 140 (i think) now post rights issue again its gone cap o cap, why ? I do not know, but I again reiterate the company has a history of showing massive loss per share, who drives it up and why, only they know, I would never invest in something like this, satta/gamble sure, but long term investment no way, not me not in PRL

Company is in negative equity since 2010 and that is nothing new and it was not bankrupt as massive capital expenditure has been done (see the increase in Fixed Assets). Reason for the stock price remaining very high despite all the losses is that major shareholding is with SHEL, PSO, Chevron & HASCOL. Only around 7 M shares are available for trading. Plus future prospects look bright with improving GRM. You will see turnaround in numbers on Annual Result and after that next year. Price will be above 100 in next 1 year.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Dehan on April 28, 2015, 10:44:33 PM
Let me 1st say I have no real idea about why price of this stock has moved up this fast, but what i do know is pre-rights issue the corp was with negative equity meaning it was bankrupt, couple of qtrs ago I recall it posted loss per share of > rs60 per share and it sky rocketed to peaks of 140 (i think) now post rights issue again its gone cap o cap, why ? I do not know, but I again reiterate the company has a history of showing massive loss per share, who drives it up and why, only they know, I would never invest in something like this, satta/gamble sure, but long term investment no way, not me not in PRL

Company is in negative equity since 2010 and that is nothing new and it was not bankrupt as massive capital expenditure has been done (see the increase in Fixed Assets). Reason for the stock price remaining very high despite all the losses is that major shareholding is with SHEL, PSO, Chevron & HASCOL. Only around 7 M shares are available for trading. Plus future prospects look bright with improving GRM. You will see turnaround in numbers on Annual Result and after that next year. Price will be above 100 in next 1 year.
Kal Treet b danger zone mein enter ho ga. Kal k cap pa X price around 90 banti ha. 90 rs price with 150% increase in outstanding shares. Its too much. But satta spree will continue.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 28, 2015, 10:52:25 PM
Let me 1st say I have no real idea about why price of this stock has moved up this fast, but what i do know is pre-rights issue the corp was with negative equity meaning it was bankrupt, couple of qtrs ago I recall it posted loss per share of > rs60 per share and it sky rocketed to peaks of 140 (i think) now post rights issue again its gone cap o cap, why ? I do not know, but I again reiterate the company has a history of showing massive loss per share, who drives it up and why, only they know, I would never invest in something like this, satta/gamble sure, but long term investment no way, not me not in PRL

Company is in negative equity since 2010 and that is nothing new and it was not bankrupt as massive capital expenditure has been done (see the increase in Fixed Assets). Reason for the stock price remaining very high despite all the losses is that major shareholding is with SHEL, PSO, Chevron & HASCOL. Only around 7 M shares are available for trading. Plus future prospects look bright with improving GRM. You will see turnaround in numbers on Annual Result and after that next year. Price will be above 100 in next 1 year.
Kal Treet b danger zone mein enter ho ga. Kal k cap pa X price around 90 banti ha. 90 rs price with 150% increase in outstanding shares. Its too much. But satta spree will continue.

dehan bhai apke kya views prl pe??? :skeptic:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 28, 2015, 10:53:53 PM
No upper limit or lower limit in satta no fundamentals technicals and earnings matter only timing of entry and exit matter enjoy the ride
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 28, 2015, 10:59:32 PM
Satta expected in rights share expected at current price xR price is 27 so right share traded in between 20-25 must buy for short term price of 192
As i mentioned one month back 100% gain return in one month good luck to investors and hope for better luck those miss the ride
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 29, 2015, 04:26:38 PM
Masha ALLAH :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 29, 2015, 04:39:13 PM
60+ soon
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 29, 2015, 10:42:12 PM
lag raha hai right trading start hone tk cap o cap hi rahega :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 30, 2015, 10:36:22 AM
Masha ALLAH good cap :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 30, 2015, 01:56:56 PM
Laoo ab 65
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on April 30, 2015, 01:59:46 PM
Laoo ab 65
Nadeem sb .. What is the expectation , what will be the price after one month ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tajashfaq on April 30, 2015, 02:30:18 PM
plz asim bhai prl ke (R) bare me kuch samjhain kaya rat pe khole ga
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: summiwasu on April 30, 2015, 03:10:14 PM
Should we buy prl?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 30, 2015, 06:06:39 PM
Should we buy prl?
not recommend for fresh buying those already in hold
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on April 30, 2015, 07:39:11 PM
Nadeem bro,
Any info about the date of rights trading?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 30, 2015, 09:58:49 PM
Nadeem bro,
Any info about the date of rights trading?
one more week for right trading schedule start till enjoy upper cap ride
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 30, 2015, 10:30:46 PM
Nadeem bro,
Any info about the date of rights trading?
one more week for right trading schedule start till enjoy upper cap ride
:thanks: :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 30, 2015, 10:33:44 PM
Laoo ab 65
Nadeem sb .. What is the expectation , what will be the price after one month ?
something between 65-75
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 30, 2015, 10:35:24 PM
Laoo ab 65
Nadeem sb .. What is the expectation , what will be the price after one month ?
something between 65-75
medium term ka kya target he nadeem bhai :skeptic:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on April 30, 2015, 10:37:11 PM
Laoo ab 65
Nadeem sb .. What is the expectation , what will be the price after one month ?
something between 65-75
IN SHA ALLAH, Nadeem Bhai biafo ka kuch bataein
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 30, 2015, 10:40:54 PM
Bifo me ex dividend ke baad no a jay ga ap ka
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on April 30, 2015, 10:55:28 PM
Laoo ab 65
Nadeem sb .. What is the expectation , what will be the price after one month ?
something between 65-75
IN SHA ALLAH, Nadeem Bhai biafo ka kuch bataein

Insha Allah.

Nadeem bro
There is a viewpoint of some members of this forum that once rights trading starts there will be continuous lower locks until the PRL right COMES DOWN TO  Rs. 20-30. What % chances are that it will trade between 65-75??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: hammad01 on April 30, 2015, 11:18:42 PM
Laoo ab 65
Nadeem sb .. What is the expectation , what will be the price after one month ?
something between 65-75
IN SHA ALLAH, Nadeem Bhai biafo ka kuch bataein

Insha Allah.

Nadeem bro
There is a viewpoint of some members of this forum that once rights trading starts there will be continuous lower locks until the PRL right COMES DOWN TO  Rs. 20-30. What % chances are that it will trade between 65-75??

PRL moves due to satta before Rights Nadeem bhai said few times that he thinks very strong satta after x right. Satta aik hi direction ma nahi hota, downward movement bhi isi tarhan hogi. But reverse gear kab lagta ha Nadeem bhai knows better. But Nadeem bhai also said ka in long term it will be good.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on May 01, 2015, 02:35:28 PM
The Isomerisation Project is progressing as planned. Most of the equipment have been received and safely installed.
Currently, some interconnecting and pre-commissioning activities are underway. It is expected that the project will
be commissioned by 1st quarter of 2015-16

http://www.prl.com.pk/downloads/3rdquarterreport15.pdf
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 01, 2015, 02:44:57 PM
Those who hold for the time period of atleast six month get huge profit
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 01, 2015, 03:03:56 PM
Hold xR 27 ho ga right ka bohat bara satta ho ga xR 35 per trade ho ga
Another satta in right shares expected be ready
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 01, 2015, 03:10:19 PM
Hold xR 27 ho ga right ka bohat bara satta ho ga xR 35 per trade ho ga
Another satta in right shares expected be ready
satta uper ka ho ga , ya neechey ley jaa ker buy kerney ka
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 01, 2015, 03:19:28 PM
Those who purchased even last day before book closure can get huge profit but I u make yourmind for the investment period of atleast six month u can get decent profit best strategy for me to sold half your right shares and remaining half subscribe
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 01, 2015, 11:21:00 PM
The Isomerisation Project is progressing as planned. Most of the equipment have been received and safely installed.
Currently, some interconnecting and pre-commissioning activities are underway. It is expected that the project will
be commissioned by 1st quarter of 2015-16

http://www.prl.com.pk/downloads/3rdquarterreport15.pdf
sbm bhai what u suggest about its rights, price appreciate almost 120%, rights credit honey per balloon sey air nikal jai gee I think
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 02, 2015, 12:25:22 AM
Upgradation Project



The Project’s primary objective is to ensure compliance with Government of Pakistan’s requirement of Euro-II diesel specification i.e. 500 parts per million (ppm) sulphur. Additionally, the Project will also help to pave the way for sustained profitability by altering the production slate towards increased production of higher margin products and thereby justifying the investment. The entire future product slate would be marketable and mainly for local consumption by adopting the following configuration:




Installation, including all ancillary equipments, of diesel hydro-treating facility to treat the total diesel produced by the refinery for meeting (Euro-II) grade i.e. 500 ppm.
Installation, including all ancillary equipment, of Thermal Gas Oil Unit (TGU) facility to convert an appreciable amount of fuel oil into diesel.


Front end development of the project is currently in progress to be accomplished in three stages (FED - 1, 2&3). Assurance model of project management by Stage Gate Review is being followed for governance.
 Other support activities in progress include Soil Investigation, Seismic Hazard Assessment, QRA and Environment Impact Assessment
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on May 02, 2015, 02:57:38 AM
Right trading kab shuru hai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: asim.786 on May 02, 2015, 03:59:59 AM
Holder are advised sell b4 right trading
series of lower lock are expected after right trading like pint
Now price is unjustified
I see it 30-35 after right trading
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 02, 2015, 09:40:35 AM
Holder are advised sell b4 right trading
series of lower lock are expected after right trading like pint
Now price is unjustified
I see it 30-35 after right trading

Those who hold for the time period of atleast six month get huge profit

Laoo ab 65
Nadeem sb .. What is the expectation , what will be the price after one month ?
something between 65-75

Interesting. So may different views. Its movement will be worth watching. Lets see who wins- bulls or bears!!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 02, 2015, 10:28:11 AM
Holder are advised sell b4 right trading
series of lower lock are expected after right trading like pint
Now price is unjustified
I see it 30-35 after right trading

I agree with this. Its better to sell your original holding before start of rights trading. I never expected it to reach 60 so quickly and it already exceeded all the expectations. So if it achieves 65+ during next week, that would be great price to sell your original holding.

Already those who bought before X are in huge profits. For example i bought 1000 shares at 156 and sold those 1000 shares at 65, my cost for 8000 right shares will be 156000-65000=91000/8000= Rs. 11.37 per share. Even if Rights are trading at Rs. 25, there will be profit of Rs. 109,000 on investment of 156,000.

This is scenario for someone who does not want to subscribe right shares and interested in short term gain only. If you want to subscribe right shares, return will be even greater.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 02, 2015, 10:28:58 AM
Holders already exit at 49.40 when first time upper lock opened. Now waiting for right trading
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 02, 2015, 10:43:44 AM
Holder are advised sell b4 right trading
series of lower lock are expected after right trading like pint
Now price is unjustified
I see it 30-35 after right trading

I agree with this. Its better to sell your original holding before start of rights trading. I never expected it to reach 60 so quickly and it already exceeded all the expectations. So if it achieves 65+ during next week, that would be great price to sell your original holding.

Already those who bought before X are in huge profits. For example i bought 1000 shares at 156 and sold those 1000 shares at 65, my cost for 8000 right shares will be 156000-65000=91000/8000= Rs. 11.37 per share. Even if Rights are trading at Rs. 25, there will be profit of Rs. 109,000 on investment of 156,000.
the
This is scenario for someone who does not want to subscribe right shares and interested in short term gain only. If you want to subscribe right shares, return will be even greater.
Adnan 100% gain in one month congrate even if share price trades at 35
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 02, 2015, 10:43:55 AM
Holders already exit at 49.40 when first time upper lock opened. Now waiting for right trading

Those who bought on that day when lock opened will surely sell before start of rights trading. Just wait and see.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 02, 2015, 10:45:50 AM
Holder are advised sell b4 right trading
series of lower lock are expected after right trading like pint
Now price is unjustified
I see it 30-35 after right trading

I agree with this. Its better to sell your original holding before start of rights trading. I never expected it to reach 60 so quickly and it already exceeded all the expectations. So if it achieves 65+ during next week, that would be great price to sell your original holding.

Already those who bought before X are in huge profits. For example i bought 1000 shares at 156 and sold those 1000 shares at 65, my cost for 8000 right shares will be 156000-65000=91000/8000= Rs. 11.37 per share. Even if Rights are trading at Rs. 25, there will be profit of Rs. 109,000 on investment of 156,000.
the
This is scenario for someone who does not want to subscribe right shares and interested in short term gain only. If you want to subscribe right shares, return will be even greater.
Adnan 100% gain in one month congrate even if share price trades at 35

Thanks Nadeem Bhai but i am not in this for short term. I will subscribe right shares and wait for Annual result which will surprise many people.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 02, 2015, 11:38:04 AM
Holders already exit at 49.40 when first time upper lock opened. Now waiting for right trading

I agree with nadeem bro. I also sold my holding at Rs. 49.4.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 02, 2015, 12:01:48 PM
Approximately 2.5 million shares changed hands at or around Rs. 49.4. On 30th june 2014 general public held 16.3% shares (just 5.7 million shares). A major chunk of these were purchased later by hascol and hascol now holds more than  13.4%. It may have further increased its holding since jan 2015. It is safe to assume that general public holds very little number of shares in prl (may be less than a million or so)- not more than a few percentage. With another million shares buyers in queue above Rs. 60, it seems that public will be almost totally out from ordinary shares of prl when the lock opens now. The major holders including hascol have all already decided to subscribe to the right shares. I see major/strong holders like hascol further increasing their stake by purchasing right shares from the market. The right shares have already been fully underwritten as per my info which shows the confidence of big pockets. In the circumstances it seems that those who sell immediately after the start of rights trading would be mostly from small holders and faint hearts like me. In the medium term they would be losers as the shares will end up with long, strong, high net worth players. So, there are greater chances of bulls(nadeem included) winning the bet- already they have won enough ground to be happy with their bet.

Besides, it wouldn't be wise to consider those as dumbs who are in queue with bid of almost a million shares at more than Rs. 60.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 02, 2015, 12:05:45 PM
In all fairness, trading in prl or its rights may well prove to be quite a risky business with huge swings/volatility. It may rightly be termed as "sher ki sawari". So faint hearts would be better of staying away from such scrip.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 02, 2015, 12:12:40 PM
I and asim bhai and almost every one (except  a few) think that it will behave like pibtl and there will be a series of lower locks downwards. My experience suggests that when such a large majority of janta turns bearish or thinks there will be a series of lower locks, it wouldn't be surprising if the opposite happens. So beware!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 02, 2015, 01:02:09 PM
Approximately 2.5 million shares changed hands at or around Rs. 49.4. On 30th june 2014 general public held 16.3% shares (just 5.7 million shares). A major chunk of these were purchased later by hascol and hascol now holds more than  13.4%. It may have further increased its holding since jan 2015. It is safe to assume that general public holds very little number of shares in prl (may be less than a million or so)- not more than a few percentage. With another million shares buyers in queue above Rs. 60, it seems that public will be almost totally out from ordinary shares of prl when the lock opens now. The major holders including hascol have all already decided to subscribe to the right shares. I see major/strong holders like hascol further increasing their stake by purchasing right shares from the market. The right shares have already been fully underwritten as per my info which shows the confidence of big pockets. In the circumstances it seems that those who sell immediately after the start of rights trading would be mostly from small holders and faint hearts like me. In the medium term they would be losers as the shares will end up with long, strong, high net worth players. So, there are greater chances of bulls(nadeem included) winning the bet- already they have won enough ground to be happy with their bet.

Besides, it wouldn't be wise to consider those as dumbs who are in queue with bid of almost a million shares at more than Rs. 60.

You are right. Big players like SHEL, PSO, HASCOL & Chevron will surely subscribe right shares as it is a loss for them if they don't and Rs. 10 per share for subscribing right issue is a very small amount for them. Public already has very small holding. Once rights trading starts there might be some selling pressure early on but once public sell its right shares, it will only go up as supply will be scarce. In PIBTL case there was abundant supply due to larger free float and more right shares issued. So this one might end up a little different case.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 02, 2015, 03:32:45 PM
Those who wants 100% gain exit whenever chance to exit in right shares and those who trust my words and wants 200% or more wait till October when prl isomorisation plants  starts after all win win situations for prl holders even share price declines to 35 good luck to holders
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: abdulaleemboy2006 on May 02, 2015, 04:05:01 PM
Nadeem Bhai already the ones who even on the last day before getting XR are in a gain of 155% as per the Thursday prices.
Don't you think it shall get to its initiall prices of 120-140 after final Year result?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 02, 2015, 04:20:41 PM
Nadeem Bhai already the ones who even on the last day before getting XR are in a gain of 155% as per the Thursday prices.
Don't you think it shall get to its initiall prices of 120-140 after final Year result?
I think its too early to predict for short term traders its better to sell half quantity of right and from this money to subscribe half right shares then yours average price down
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: jkhaliq on May 02, 2015, 06:13:54 PM
nadeem sb, can we take entry now and wait till oct for capital gain?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 02, 2015, 06:56:00 PM
nadeem sb, can we take entry now and wait till oct for capital gain?

Don't take entry now. Wait for right shares trading start and buy it when price stabilizes after that.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 02, 2015, 09:13:49 PM
PSO, Shell, Chevron and Hascol both has stake into its equity capital base of 35mn shares
now 280 mn + 35mn equal to 315mn and
considering same loss of next HY
3.5bn + 3.5bn = 7bn
Diluted this 7bn with 315mn total capital
their dilutes LPS will be 22
and capital base would increase the credit exposure.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 02, 2015, 09:17:15 PM
nadeem sb, can we take entry now and wait till oct for capital gain?
wait khaliq sahib after right share trading price stabilize then enter 63 is not recommend for fresh entry better to take entry in pael hascol dgkc fccl ffbl
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: shahzad915 on May 04, 2015, 12:38:10 PM
Nadeem Bhai,

when trading of right shares is expected to start?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 04, 2015, 04:09:40 PM
http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=066134
trading in rights from Wednesday 6-05-15
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: shahzad915 on May 04, 2015, 04:28:00 PM
http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=066134
trading in rights from Wednesday 6-05-15

should sell as soon as trading as trading starts or will price increase?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 04, 2015, 04:30:11 PM
http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?id=4&nid=066134
trading in rights from Wednesday 6-05-15

should sell as soon as trading as trading starts or will price increase?
yar mera programe to sale ka hey on Wednesday
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 04, 2015, 04:34:44 PM
rights credit honey ka message kis kis ko aaya hey from cdc
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: shahzad915 on May 04, 2015, 04:37:02 PM
then i vl do the same. still no message received of rights credited.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 04, 2015, 04:44:48 PM
Today right share credit in CDC account
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: shahzad915 on May 04, 2015, 04:54:31 PM
nadeem bhai,

Your guidance is required for selling of right shares.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: umarm on May 04, 2015, 06:30:16 PM
Mujhay to koi message nahee aiya aur na hi account men aiyay han abhe tak ? Should i call my broker ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 04, 2015, 07:22:18 PM
mere account men bhi nai aye han :dunno:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 04, 2015, 07:44:04 PM
nadeem bhai,

Your guidance is required for selling of right shares.
definetely bhai waiting for trading in right shares on Wednesday
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: baqii on May 04, 2015, 07:50:44 PM
Nadeem Bhai , right share ko kis rate per layna chahey ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 04, 2015, 08:00:46 PM
Nadeem Bhai , right share ko kis rate per layna chahey ?
Abhi new entrance wait kare
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 04, 2015, 09:32:18 PM
Where is the person who said Right share will be available at Rs. 8?

If regular share close at upper lock again tomorrow, Opening price of Right share will be Rs. 56.18.

Rights will be traded for 25 sessions and minimum possible price in case of 25 lower locks is Rs. 15.58.

There is zero chance of loss for everyone who bought before XR.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 05, 2015, 10:12:38 AM
rights credited today
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on May 05, 2015, 10:28:30 AM
Where is the person who said Right share will be available at Rs. 8?

If regular share close at upper lock again tomorrow, Opening price of Right share will be Rs. 56.18.

Rights will be traded for 25 sessions and minimum possible price in case of 25 lower locks is Rs. 15.58.

There is zero chance of loss for everyone who bought before XR.

pibt remember plz
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 05, 2015, 10:39:32 AM
Where is the person who said Right share will be available at Rs. 8?

If regular share close at upper lock again tomorrow, Opening price of Right share will be Rs. 56.18.

Rights will be traded for 25 sessions and minimum possible price in case of 25 lower locks is Rs. 15.58.

There is zero chance of loss for everyone who bought before XR.

pibt remember plz

Please read the comment again. I just mentioned minimum possible price without predicting movement of Right shares.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on May 05, 2015, 11:12:59 AM
if prlr moves anything like pibtlr then I would suggest that you read the comment again

it will end in loss for holders

sirf satta ho raha hai aur sattay main maal kissi ko chipakna hota hai

shaid wo app hee hoo anyways allah karay prl 1000 taak cap o capp jaye
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 05, 2015, 11:38:46 AM
if prlr moves anything like pibtlr then I would suggest that you read the comment again

it will end in loss for holders

sirf satta ho raha hai aur sattay main maal kissi ko chipakna hota hai

shaid wo app hee hoo anyways allah karay prl 1000 taak cap o capp jaye

I request you again to please read my comment carefully. Even if Right share remain on lower lock for all of 25 sessions (which is not very likely), there is no loss for anyone who bought before XR. How can you say that it will end in loss for holders?

Plus check the ownership structure of the company first and see how much stake public has in this share. Even comparing it with PIBTL is wrong. Do you seriously think companies like PSO, HASCOL, SHEL & Chevron will sell their stake to public?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on May 05, 2015, 11:49:14 AM
but they will sure like to buy it cheap

hascol is well known for manipulation of PRL stock

see SECP verdict on how their CFO defrauded the general public

so yes price manipulation is all that there is in PRL

but those who bot pre right will probably not make a loss  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 05, 2015, 11:52:03 AM
but they will sure like to buy it cheap

hascol is well known for manipulation of PRL stock

see SECP verdict on how their CFO defrauded the general public

so yes price manipulation is all that there is in PRL

but those who bot pre right will probably not make a loss  :biggthumpup:

Thats the point.

I agree there will be manipulation and satta. No doubt about that. Current price is certainly not justified.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on May 05, 2015, 02:45:39 PM
if prlr moves anything like pibtlr then I would suggest that you read the comment again

it will end in loss for holders

sirf satta ho raha hai aur sattay main maal kissi ko chipakna hota hai

shaid wo app hee hoo anyways allah karay prl 1000 taak cap o capp jaye

I request you again to please read my comment carefully. Even if Right share remain on lower lock for all of 25 sessions (which is not very likely), there is no loss for anyone who bought before XR. How can you say that it will end in loss for holders?

Plus check the ownership structure of the company first and see how much stake public has in this share. Even comparing it with PIBTL is wrong. Do you seriously think companies like PSO, HASCOL, SHEL & Chevron will sell their stake to public?

chevron sold out ages ago.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 05, 2015, 03:37:56 PM
Excellent performance in mandi
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 05, 2015, 03:39:09 PM
Excellent performance in mandi
nadeem bhai prlr kul sale lagain at 53.38
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 05, 2015, 03:41:19 PM
Half sale half hold
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 05, 2015, 03:43:19 PM
Half sale half hold
thanks will do the same
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 05, 2015, 07:20:28 PM
majority shareholders ney sara maal janta sey buy ker liya hey, konsa individual aaj bhi ul per buy ker sakta hey, it is only majority shareholding companies
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 05, 2015, 07:41:52 PM
Will there be UL  or LL TOMMORROW???

Views please......
My view =  LL
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 05, 2015, 07:48:23 PM
Will there be UL  or LL TOMMORROW???

Views please......
My view =  LL
i'll place my 50% on lower lock price
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 05, 2015, 07:49:25 PM
Will there be UL  or LL TOMMORROW???

Views please......
My view =  LL

LL as there will be lot of selling pressure.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 05, 2015, 07:51:30 PM
Will there be UL  or LL TOMMORROW???

Views please......
My view =  LL

LL as there will be lot of selling pressure.
I think at LL there will be huge buying by holding companies
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 05, 2015, 08:03:03 PM
if prlr moves anything like pibtlr then I would suggest that you read the comment again

it will end in loss for holders

sirf satta ho raha hai aur sattay main maal kissi ko chipakna hota hai

shaid wo app hee hoo anyways allah karay prl 1000 taak cap o capp jaye

I request you again to please read my comment carefully. Even if Right share remain on lower lock for all of 25 sessions (which is not very likely), there is no loss for anyone who bought before XR. How can you say that it will end in loss for holders?

Plus check the ownership structure of the company first and see how much stake public has in this share. Even comparing it with PIBTL is wrong. Do you seriously think companies like PSO, HASCOL, SHEL & Chevron will sell their stake to public?

chevron sold out ages ago.

How long ago? Check Annual Report of PRL for the year 2014. Chevron Global Energy Inc. hold 4.2 M shares of PRL.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 05, 2015, 08:04:55 PM
Will there be UL  or LL TOMMORROW???

Views please......
My view =  LL

LL as there will be lot of selling pressure.
I think at LL there will be huge buying by holding companies

Maybe. Those predicting that it will behave like PIBTL Right shares will be proven way off the mark. Just wait and see  ;)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 05, 2015, 08:07:23 PM
if prlr moves anything like pibtlr then I would suggest that you read the comment again

it will end in loss for holders

sirf satta ho raha hai aur sattay main maal kissi ko chipakna hota hai

shaid wo app hee hoo anyways allah karay prl 1000 taak cap o capp jaye

I request you again to please read my comment carefully. Even if Right share remain on lower lock for all of 25 sessions (which is not very likely), there is no loss for anyone who bought before XR. How can you say that it will end in loss for holders?

Plus check the ownership structure of the company first and see how much stake public has in this share. Even comparing it with PIBTL is wrong. Do you seriously think companies like PSO, HASCOL, SHEL & Chevron will sell their stake to public?

chevron sold out ages ago.

How long ago? Check Annual Report of PRL for the year 2014. Chevron Global Energy Inc. hold 4.2 M shares of PRL.

I think chevron still holds its stake in prl.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on May 05, 2015, 09:20:40 PM
if prlr moves anything like pibtlr then I would suggest that you read the comment again

it will end in loss for holders

sirf satta ho raha hai aur sattay main maal kissi ko chipakna hota hai

shaid wo app hee hoo anyways allah karay prl 1000 taak cap o capp jaye

I request you again to please read my comment carefully. Even if Right share remain on lower lock for all of 25 sessions (which is not very likely), there is no loss for anyone who bought before XR. How can you say that it will end in loss for holders?

Plus check the ownership structure of the company first and see how much stake public has in this share. Even comparing it with PIBTL is wrong. Do you seriously think companies like PSO, HASCOL, SHEL & Chevron will sell their stake to public?

chevron sold out ages ago.

How long ago? Check Annual Report of PRL for the year 2014. Chevron Global Energy Inc. hold 4.2 M shares of PRL.

I think chevron still holds its stake in prl.
from PSO accounts:
 
During the period, the Company acquired additional 1,575,000 ordinary
shares of its associate Pakistan Refinery Limited (PRL) at the rate of Rs.
73.44
(USD 0.7143) per share in accordance with the Share Sale and
Purchase agreement with Chevron Global Energy Inc. dated March 17,
2014. The shares have been transferred in the name of the Company on
January 31, 2015, thereby increasing the aggregate percentage shareholding
of the Company in PRL to 22.5% as at March 31, 2015 ( June 30, 2014:
10 11
18%). Accordingly, the results of PRL have been accounted for in the
condensed interim financial information on the basis of equity accounting
at the rate of 22.5% with effect from February 1, 2015.
----------------------------------

Shell was the other party which had right of first refusal on chevron's stake
I was under the impression that  shell & pso had completely bought out chevron's stake 
However, the listed entity, Shell Pakistan doesnt hold those PRL shares, they are in the name of Shell Pet London, so we have no way of knowing if shell bought remaining stake of chevron, or chevron sold to market/hascol till annual accounts.
Or if someone can access its shareholder records  :laugh:

Also, please note the price at which the deal was made  :laugh:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: asim.786 on May 05, 2015, 10:03:29 PM


Prlr price is overvalued
New comers avoid rights shares until
rights shares takes some correction n
setteled on right price

Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 05, 2015, 10:31:21 PM
Plz senior advice that i should sell rights  tomorrow and re-buy in dip or hold any idea how much it can dip,my plane is to  subscribe and hold for the 6 months till sept?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 05, 2015, 10:31:37 PM
if prlr moves anything like pibtlr then I would suggest that you read the comment again

it will end in loss for holders

sirf satta ho raha hai aur sattay main maal kissi ko chipakna hota hai

shaid wo app hee hoo anyways allah karay prl 1000 taak cap o capp jaye

I request you again to please read my comment carefully. Even if Right share remain on lower lock for all of 25 sessions (which is not very likely), there is no loss for anyone who bought before XR. How can you say that it will end in loss for holders?

Plus check the ownership structure of the company first and see how much stake public has in this share. Even comparing it with PIBTL is wrong. Do you seriously think companies like PSO, HASCOL, SHEL & Chevron will sell their stake to public?

chevron sold out ages ago.

How long ago? Check Annual Report of PRL for the year 2014. Chevron Global Energy Inc. hold 4.2 M shares of PRL.

I think chevron still holds its stake in prl.
from PSO accounts:
 
During the period, the Company acquired additional 1,575,000 ordinary
shares of its associate Pakistan Refinery Limited (PRL) at the rate of Rs.
73.44
(USD 0.7143) per share in accordance with the Share Sale and
Purchase agreement with Chevron Global Energy Inc. dated March 17,
2014. The shares have been transferred in the name of the Company on
January 31, 2015, thereby increasing the aggregate percentage shareholding
of the Company in PRL to 22.5% as at March 31, 2015 ( June 30, 2014:
10 11
18%). Accordingly, the results of PRL have been accounted for in the
condensed interim financial information on the basis of equity accounting
at the rate of 22.5% with effect from February 1, 2015.
----------------------------------

Shell was the other party which had right of first refusal on chevron's stake
I was under the impression that  shell & pso had completely bought out chevron's stake 
However, the listed entity, Shell Pakistan doesnt hold those PRL shares, they are in the name of Shell Pet London, so we have no way of knowing if shell bought remaining stake of chevron, or chevron sold to market/hascol till annual accounts.
Or if someone can access its shareholder records  :laugh:

Also, please note the price at which the deal was made  :laugh:

Nice information.

But i would like to add one more thing. As per recently passed Board resolution and Memorandum & Article of association of the comany, 60% shares i.e. 21 M held by associated companies ( PSO, SHEL etc) are class 'B' shares. General public and HASCOL hold class 'A' shares only. So it is not possible that Chevron sold its holding to HASCOL or general public. Right shares are also offered according to that bifurcation of 60% & 40%. Holders of 'A' category shares cannot subscribe, purchase or hold any 'B' category shares and vice versa.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 05, 2015, 10:35:37 PM
Also that price of Rs. 73.44 has little significance as class 'B' shares cannot be traded on Stock exchange and are not part of free float of the company.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 05, 2015, 10:58:20 PM
views/info shared by adnan is fully endorsed.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Almaas on May 05, 2015, 10:59:19 PM
BIG SATTA GOING ON.
BE CAREFUL.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on May 06, 2015, 12:38:45 AM
Also that price of Rs. 73.44 has little significance as class 'B' shares cannot be traded on Stock exchange and are not part of free float of the company.

whats the difference in the rights of A & B shares ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 06, 2015, 01:09:05 AM
Also that price of Rs. 73.44 has little significance as class 'B' shares cannot be traded on Stock exchange and are not part of free float of the company.

whats the difference in the rights of A & B shares ?


Not much. Except with reference to elections to BOD. A class share holders can only elect Pakistani locals to the board; while B shares were origionally meant for foreign shareholder (companies) though a local can also be elected by B shareholders. Other difference- B shareholder cannot purchase/subscribe A shares and vice versa. As such Practically speaking B shares cannot be sold to general public which holds A shares.

The company was incorporated in 1960 and at that time it was government policy to encourage representation of locals on the board of companies set up by foreign companies/sponsors/shareholders. The articles of association of the company were therefore framed/approved accordingly.

Hope this answers the query of Master troll.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on May 06, 2015, 03:43:16 AM
Thanks for detailed reply

Laooo floor o floor series Prl
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 06, 2015, 09:36:38 AM
as expected strong lower lock :skeptic:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 06, 2015, 09:39:49 AM
as expected strong lower lock :skeptic:
Ab kahan  tk jata lagta hai?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 06, 2015, 09:40:04 AM
Will there be UL  or LL TOMMORROW???

Views please......
My view =  LL
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on May 06, 2015, 10:03:41 AM
Thanks for detailed reply

Laooo floor o floor series Prl


Maybe. Those predicting that it will behave like PIBTL Right shares will be proven way off the mark. Just wait and see  ;)

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Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: baqii on May 06, 2015, 10:13:29 AM
Seniors , please guide entry level in PRL
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Almaas on May 06, 2015, 10:20:34 AM
BIG SATTA GOING ON.
BE CAREFUL.

:rtfm: :rtfm:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 06, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
Thanks for detailed reply

Laooo floor o floor series Prl


Maybe. Those predicting that it will behave like PIBTL Right shares will be proven way off the mark. Just wait and see  ;)

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I said before lower locks are very much expected as there will be huge selling pressure. Lets wait and see how many lower locks there will be? And how much gain on average is made. Once that is known, you can rejoice after that. Till then just wait and watch  ;)

Btw my average for right shares is only Rs. 13.25. So i can bear all 25 LL in PRLR.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on May 06, 2015, 10:46:10 AM
 :console:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 06, 2015, 04:18:11 PM
looks rights upto 40-42
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 06, 2015, 04:19:14 PM
At least two or three more lower lock expected in right shares be ready and nothing to worry off market right share buyers at 42 and seller at 43 still 100% profit
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: wasiq on May 06, 2015, 06:34:36 PM
aor jin k pas nh hai wo kia karien nadeem bhai ?  :dunno:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: umarm on May 06, 2015, 06:47:05 PM
aor jin k pas nh hai wo kia karien nadeem bhai ?  :dunno:

Jin kay paas nahee ha wo oon say treat lain jin kay paas ha. After all 3-4 weeks men 100 percent gain is beyond normal.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: asim.786 on May 06, 2015, 07:23:09 PM
Off mkt ma prlr 23Rs pa huge buying
what a stupidity mkt ma 50+ aur off mkt half say be Kim
who is seller humain bhe dalwa do
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 06, 2015, 07:36:36 PM
Off mkt ma prlr 23Rs pa huge buying
what a stupidity mkt ma 50+ aur off mkt half say be Kim
who is seller humain bhe dalwa do
off market men sham ko 38 me trade howa he tab bhi 110% gain he
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 06, 2015, 07:38:26 PM
aor jin k pas nh hai wo kia karien nadeem bhai ?  :dunno:
bhai wait kare agar off market me koi ap ko 22 me right le de to buy kar ley
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 06, 2015, 08:57:01 PM
Off mkt ma prlr 23Rs pa huge buying
what a stupidity mkt ma 50+ aur off mkt half say be Kim
who is seller humain bhe dalwa do
off market men sham ko 38 me trade howa he tab bhi 110% gain he

Nadeem Bhai even at Rs. 23 there is more than 50% gain for me  :D
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 06, 2015, 09:09:45 PM
Off mkt ma prlr 23Rs pa huge buying
what a stupidity mkt ma 50+ aur off mkt half say be Kim
who is seller humain bhe dalwa do
off market men sham ko 38 me trade howa he tab bhi 110% gain he

Nadeem Bhai even at Rs. 23 there is more than 50% gain for me  :D
don't worry buying comes in right between 35-40 or more inshaallah
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 06, 2015, 09:12:29 PM
Off mkt ma prlr 23Rs pa huge buying
what a stupidity mkt ma 50+ aur off mkt half say be Kim
who is seller humain bhe dalwa do
off market men sham ko 38 me trade howa he tab bhi 110% gain he

Nadeem Bhai even at Rs. 23 there is more than 50% gain for me  :D
don't worry buying comes in right between 35-40 or more inshaallah

Not worried at all Nadeem Bhai. I know its a win win situation for anyone who bought before XR.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on May 06, 2015, 09:37:52 PM
Those who wants 100% gain exit whenever chance to exit in right shares and those who trust my words and wants 200% or more wait till October when prl isomorisation plants  starts after all win win situations for prl holders even share price declines to 35 good luck to holders
Nadeem sb ... We will wait for your call to jump in for this opportunity . Missed the current opportunity but don't want to miss the next one . 
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 06, 2015, 09:46:41 PM
Those who wants 100% gain exit whenever chance to exit in right shares and those who trust my words and wants 200% or more wait till October when prl isomorisation plants  starts after all win win situations for prl holders even share price declines to 35 good luck to holders
Nadeem sb ... We will wait for your call to jump in for this opportunity . Missed the current opportunity but don't want to miss the next one .
better to take entry in treet and hascol luqman sahib
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 06, 2015, 10:04:04 PM
Strangely someone bought 778000 shares of pael at avg price of approx. 65 while he/they could have bought tons of prl r at 35+10=45 /share. Why did they buy such huge quantity. Are they smart or those who sold at lock??? Any views
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on May 06, 2015, 10:06:32 PM
Those who wants 100% gain exit whenever chance to exit in right shares and those who trust my words and wants 200% or more wait till October when prl isomorisation plants  starts after all win win situations for prl holders even share price declines to 35 good luck to holders
Nadeem sb ... We will wait for your call to jump in for this opportunity . Missed the current opportunity but don't want to miss the next one .
better to take entry in treet and hascol luqman sahib
Thx for the advice Nadeem sb .
PRL Isomorisation plant will start working in the first quarter of 2015-16 which will double the capacity . I guess Sept will be a good time to invest in PRL but of course investors like me will need your advice when to buy the shares . Do keep us advising when to enter in PRL race.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on May 06, 2015, 10:36:13 PM
Those who wants 100% gain exit whenever chance to exit in right shares and those who trust my words and wants 200% or more wait till October when prl isomorisation plants  starts after all win win situations for prl holders even share price declines to 35 good luck to holders
Nadeem sb ... We will wait for your call to jump in for this opportunity . Missed the current opportunity but don't want to miss the next one .
better to take entry in treet and hascol luqman sahib
Thx for the advice Nadeem sb .
PRL Isomorisation plant will start working in the first quarter of 2015-16 which will double the capacity . I guess Sept will be a good time to invest in PRL but of course investors like me will need your advice when to buy the shares . Do keep us advising when to enter in PRL race.

 :[ double capacity? Of what
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on May 06, 2015, 10:44:40 PM
Those who wants 100% gain exit whenever chance to exit in right shares and those who trust my words and wants 200% or more wait till October when prl isomorisation plants  starts after all win win situations for prl holders even share price declines to 35 good luck to holders
Nadeem sb ... We will wait for your call to jump in for this opportunity . Missed the current opportunity but don't want to miss the next one .
better to take entry in treet and hascol luqman sahib
Thx for the advice Nadeem sb .
PRL Isomorisation plant will start working in the first quarter of 2015-16 which will double the capacity . I guess Sept will be a good time to invest in PRL but of course investors like me will need your advice when to buy the shares . Do keep us advising when to enter in PRL race.

 :[ double capacity? Of what
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-3-202413-PRL-approves-50m-for--isomerisation-unit

Production of petroleum from 12,000 tons to 24,000 tons .... I have pasted the link above .
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 06, 2015, 10:45:58 PM
Those who wants 100% gain exit whenever chance to exit in right shares and those who trust my words and wants 200% or more wait till October when prl isomorisation plants  starts after all win win situations for prl holders even share price declines to 35 good luck to holders
Nadeem sb ... We will wait for your call to jump in for this opportunity . Missed the current opportunity but don't want to miss the next one .
better to take entry in treet and hascol luqman sahib
Thx for the advice Nadeem sb .
PRL Isomorisation plant will start working in the first quarter of 2015-16 which will double the capacity . I guess Sept will be a good time to invest in PRL but of course investors like me will need your advice when to buy the shares . Do keep us advising when to enter in PRL race.

 :[ double capacity? Of what

The Company took significant strides towards the installation of Isomerisation Unit - a
project that will double the production of Motor Gasoline which is a profitable product
from existing 12,000 M.Tons per month to 24,000 M.Tons per month.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 08, 2015, 11:54:59 AM
3 LL lug chukey hain, 40-42 tak lock khul jai ga
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 08, 2015, 12:07:16 PM
means 3 more locks
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 08, 2015, 10:43:45 PM
Today off market buyers in right 36 seller in 38
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 08, 2015, 11:00:28 PM
Today off market buyers in right 36 seller in 38

Nadeem Bhai From Off Market transactions in last 3 days, it seems certain that lock will open around 35. What you say?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on May 08, 2015, 11:43:11 PM
Those who wants 100% gain exit whenever chance to exit in right shares and those who trust my words and wants 200% or more wait till October when prl isomorisation plants  starts after all win win situations for prl holders even share price declines to 35 good luck to holders
Nadeem sb ... We will wait for your call to jump in for this opportunity . Missed the current opportunity but don't want to miss the next one .
better to take entry in treet and hascol luqman sahib
Thx for the advice Nadeem sb .
PRL Isomorisation plant will start working in the first quarter of 2015-16 which will double the capacity . I guess Sept will be a good time to invest in PRL but of course investors like me will need your advice when to buy the shares . Do keep us advising when to enter in PRL race.

 :[ double capacity? Of what

The Company took significant strides towards the installation of Isomerisation Unit - a
project that will double the production of Motor Gasoline which is a profitable product
from existing 12,000 M.Tons per month to 24,000 M.Tons per month.

yes, thanks :)
petrol is just one product, capacity of only petrol is being increased, rest will remain same 
they will also benefit (Along with rest of the refineries) from higher deemed duty on diesel once they complete diesel Desulphurization project
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 09, 2015, 11:47:00 AM
Today off market buyers in right 36 seller in 38

Nadeem Bhai From Off Market transactions in last 3 days, it seems certain that lock will open around 35. What you say?
between 37-39
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: ksetrader19 on May 09, 2015, 06:41:22 PM
And you suggest entry at this level ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 09, 2015, 07:20:11 PM
Its better to buy prl shares at in between 40-45 instead of right but decision is yours
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Dehan on May 09, 2015, 09:56:38 PM
Its better to buy prl shares at in between 40-45 instead of right but decision is yours
Asal sooda hi laina chahia. Hand agar right aur share mein substantial difference ho to phir aur baat ha.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: umarm on May 09, 2015, 10:10:10 PM
Its better to buy prl shares at in between 40-45 instead of right but decision is yours
Asal sooda hi laina chahia. Hand agar right aur share mein substantial difference ho to phir aur baat ha.


Jab right pay ho gayay gay to wo bhee asal soda hi ban gayay ga.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 09, 2015, 10:35:33 PM
During the last 1-2 days of rights trading the gap between prl r  and prl may increase - may be upto 5-8%. In that case an investor intending to hold the stock for more than 0ne month may be better of purchasing right shares. One strategy may be to buy 60% prl and 40% prl r on the last dat of trading of prl r.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 09, 2015, 10:38:02 PM
In case of pibtl approx. 12 million shares remained unsubscribed which were taken up by underwriters. In case of prl what % of shares is expected to remain un-subscribed. Any one having rough idea/ prediction????
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 12, 2015, 10:08:41 PM
ndm mein 33-40 mein different trades hoey hain
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 12, 2015, 10:10:58 PM
Nadeem bro,

When would the lock open???
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 12, 2015, 10:12:22 PM
Friday ko lock should open
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 13, 2015, 01:22:45 AM
Nadeem bro,

When would the lock open???
between 36-38
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: asim.786 on May 13, 2015, 01:29:45 AM
Below 30 lock open Ho ga
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: kashif011 on May 13, 2015, 01:34:26 AM
Below 30 lock open Ho ga
i missed it... agar entry leni ho prl mein to what is good entry point for prl..(not talking abt rights)..
nadeem bhai asim bhai?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 13, 2015, 09:51:53 AM
prl upper lock and prlr lower lock
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: umarm on May 13, 2015, 10:07:56 AM
prl upper lock and prlr lower lock

PRLR ka lock bhee khul gayay ga aaj ya phir kal.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 13, 2015, 10:27:01 AM
tomorrow strong chance of lock open of prlr
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: asim.786 on May 13, 2015, 10:30:58 AM
tomorrow strong chance of lock open of prlr

avoid untill 30 atrl awaam k pass nahi ha just planning to trap
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 13, 2015, 11:46:37 AM
tomorrow strong chance of lock open of prlr
In shallah lock will open tomorrow
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 13, 2015, 03:28:22 PM
tomorrow strong chance of lock open of prlr

avoid untill 30 atrl awaam k pass nahi ha just planning to trap
30 se phele he lock open hoga inshALLAH
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 13, 2015, 08:53:32 PM
Heavy buying seen today in prl lower lock should open I between 36-38
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 13, 2015, 08:57:31 PM
Heavy buying seen today in prl lower lock should open I between 36-38

Nadeem Bhai i think lock will open most probably on Friday. Tomorrow's expected upper lock in PRL and lower lock in PRLR will create difference of more than Rs. 17 between the two and that is when excitement should come in PRLR. There is small chance that lock might open even tomorrow.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 13, 2015, 09:00:20 PM
Heavy buying seen today in prl lower lock should open I between 36-38

Nadeem Bhai, is there any chance that price will go up once lock opens?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 13, 2015, 09:01:07 PM
Found no seller at 35 today in right off market
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 14, 2015, 12:47:38 PM
kholo is ka lower lock buht ho gaya, now 17 rs difference between prl and prlr
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: phahad on May 14, 2015, 03:40:26 PM
Im seeing series of upper locks in rights now  :bigeyed:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 14, 2015, 03:52:06 PM
Im seeing series of upper locks in rights now  :bigeyed:

Any Reason for this exuberance??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: hammad01 on May 14, 2015, 04:00:48 PM
Im seeing series of upper locks in rights now  :bigeyed:

Any Reason for this exuberance??
The reason for this difference b/w PRL and PRL(R) will remain i think if not widenend, as many are not much optimistic in long term share price of PRL. I think mostly whoever will convert rights into ordinary shares will be a investor rather than trader. PRL price fluctuations are good for traders but investors may argue.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 14, 2015, 04:33:21 PM
Trading in rights should resume tomorrow be ready
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 14, 2015, 07:16:04 PM
Nadeem bro
I have 20k PRL R. Should buy more once the lock opens or  sell the rights  or hold the existing rights????
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 14, 2015, 07:31:05 PM
Nadeem bro
I have 20k PRL R. Should buy more once the lock opens or  sell the rights  or hold the existing rights????
hold today in off market huge buyer at 36.50 I think may be trading start in right shares tomorrow
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 15, 2015, 02:54:54 PM
Yeh to aaj bhi LL hey huhu
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 18, 2015, 09:46:19 AM
Yeh to aaj bhi LL hey huhu
kufl toota khuda kuda ker k
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 18, 2015, 10:04:21 AM
Yeh to aaj bhi LL hey huhu
kufl toota khuda kuda ker k
Ab yahan s Uper.....!laaaoooo :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on May 18, 2015, 10:25:56 AM
Yeh to aaj bhi LL hey huhu
kufl toota khuda kuda ker k
Ab yahan s Uper.....!laaaoooo :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance

abhi therain itni bi kia jaldi hay, shaid 30-33 kay dermain shaid mil jaye
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali135 on May 18, 2015, 01:45:16 PM
price difference zyada rakh k rights ko buy kerwaya ja raha hai.  :D :D

warna logo say rights kesay bharwain gay???  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: akhterrasool on May 18, 2015, 01:54:47 PM
price difference zyada rakh k rights ko buy kerwaya ja raha hai.  :D :D

warna logo say rights kesay bharwain gay???  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

SPOT on 8 June... Last trading date 09 June... 15 June last date of subscription.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: phahad on May 18, 2015, 06:49:40 PM
seniors, at what price entry in rights should be taken?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 18, 2015, 08:18:59 PM
Unpaid Right share Rs. 8 ka milay ga pl. Intizar karain PRL ko loss bohat hay

Where are you hiding now bro?

Bought PRL on 2nd April and sold completely today for Net gain of 115%  :thumbsup_anim: :dance :clap1:

Thanks to Allah for such incredible gain. And congrats to all the holders of PRLR for more than 100% gain.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: masood15 on May 18, 2015, 10:09:18 PM
Mr. Adnan abhi to game shoro howa hay sabar karo yeh nechay ayga  prl aur prlr main farq kitna rakha hay warna to koi buy nahi karta abhi yeh giry ga
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on May 18, 2015, 10:14:37 PM
Mr. Adnan abhi to game shoro howa hay sabar karo yeh nechay ayga  prl aur prlr main farq kitna rakha hay warna to koi buy nahi karta abhi yeh giry ga

Bro there is no chance whatsoever of it touching your target of Rs. 8. And i don't think you are aware of dynamics of this share. Do you seriously think individuals like us bought 20 M Right shares today? No, we sold our stake today.

There are not many shares public have. And i don't think they care whether public subscribe right shares or not as long as PSO, Shell and HASCOL subscribe their share of Right issue.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 18, 2015, 10:36:34 PM
It should trade b/w 40-50 and may be k kal plus band ho
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Dehan on May 18, 2015, 10:41:25 PM
Mr. Adnan abhi to game shoro howa hay sabar karo yeh nechay ayga  prl aur prlr main farq kitna rakha hay warna to koi buy nahi karta abhi yeh giry ga

Bro there is no chance whatsoever of it touching your target of Rs. 8. And i don't think you are aware of dynamics of this share. Do you seriously think individuals like us bought 20 M Right shares today? No, we sold our stake today.

There are not many shares public have. And i don't think they care whether public subscribe right shares or not as long as PSO, Shell and HASCOL subscribe their share of Right issue.
It means k Prl will for Rs. 18.
Good idea yaar.
Laoo is ko 18 pa.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rana27 on May 19, 2015, 12:44:25 AM
, aaj LL per buht maal uthaya hey mein ney 70k , 40 ki line hey
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: masood15 on May 19, 2015, 06:11:55 AM
IDeehan bhai nay kaha hay 18 per laoo aur asim bhai nay kaha tha 25 per buy karna to phir laoo  22 par
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 19, 2015, 09:20:56 AM
It should trade b/w 40-50 and may be k kal plus band ho

Pre opening men he Lock laoo 40 :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: online88 on May 19, 2015, 09:21:29 AM
janta sey maal ley ker ab cap karain gey 2-3
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 19, 2015, 10:10:33 AM
http://kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?0.8911783951334655&id=4&nid=066388
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rana27 on May 19, 2015, 10:26:23 AM
, aaj LL per buht maal uthaya hey mein ney 70k , 40 ki line hey
game ON hey  :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: chaudhry on May 19, 2015, 10:40:55 AM
has this director bought the right shares of prl ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rana27 on May 19, 2015, 10:47:59 AM
has this director bought the right shares of prl ?
he bought yesterday prlr at 36.2
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 19, 2015, 11:04:06 AM
Laoo right 15 opps laoo 42 public out Sara mall dabe me hey satta start
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 19, 2015, 11:18:09 AM
has this director bought the right shares of prl ?
HE BOUGHT 4.4 M @ 36.2 SO IT MEANS BHT BARDA GAME HAI
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 19, 2015, 11:33:48 AM
Laoo right 15 opps laoo 42 public out Sara mall dabe me hey satta start

Nadeem bro; what does it mean by:

" 15 opps laoo 42"
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: danishhussain93 on May 19, 2015, 01:55:40 PM
Asalam-0-alikum nadem bhai kia main PRL rights main new Entry le sakta hn?? and kis price main entry lo?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 19, 2015, 04:50:58 PM
Asalam-0-alikum nadem bhai kia main PRL rights main new Entry le sakta hn?? and kis price main entry lo?
danish sahib no recomedation for fresh entry because satta continuous in right tomorrow strong possibility of upper cap opening if sustain then share price test new high public are mostly out for those who already bought before XRight price hold
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 19, 2015, 09:24:14 PM
Laoo right 15 opps laoo 42 public out Sara mall dabe me hey satta start

Nadeem bro; what does it mean by:

" 15 opps laoo 42"
15 walo ko shares nahi mile
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 19, 2015, 10:05:19 PM
Nadeem bro;

Will this satta take prl above 50??
To my knowledge shell may not subscribe 50% of its holding- that comes to 44 million shares. If it sells its rights n the market- what will be the impact???
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 20, 2015, 10:39:54 AM
Masha ALLAH.......... :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: :shoaby: :dance :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rana27 on May 20, 2015, 03:39:53 PM
, aaj LL per buht maal uthaya hey mein ney 70k , 40 ki line hey
game ON hey  :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim:
do din aur , solid tip worked
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Tariq Ahmed on May 20, 2015, 04:07:51 PM
30-45 k b/w chalay ga khoob game hoga PRLR pe  :clap1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 20, 2015, 05:03:44 PM
Asalam-0-alikum nadem bhai kia main PRL rights main new Entry le sakta hn?? and kis price main entry lo?
danish sahib no recomedation for fresh entry because satta continuous in right tomorrow strong possibility of upper cap opening if sustain then share price test new high public are mostly out for those who already bought before XRight price hold
Any thing possible in satta its seems that public completely out from the script
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 20, 2015, 07:57:58 PM
Laoo right tomorrow upper cap
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: shahzad915 on May 20, 2015, 08:17:19 PM
Laoo right tomorrow upper cap

Nadeem bhai,

Kdr tk jay ga prlr
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 20, 2015, 08:44:57 PM
First target of 44-45 short term subject to market conditions
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: genious.genio on May 21, 2015, 10:27:54 AM
First target of 44-45 short term subject to market conditions

short term 45 or 35??  :rtfm: huhu huhu :thumbsdown_anim:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 21, 2015, 10:33:06 AM
35
Rally seems to be over for a week.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on May 21, 2015, 10:37:53 AM
First target of 44-45 short term subject to market conditions

short term 45 or 35??  :rtfm: huhu huhu :thumbsdown_anim:

today I sold all which bought around 35.50, now will buy again INSHALLAH around 30-33
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: zahid on May 22, 2015, 06:05:34 PM
Fresh Buying ka PRL main kab aye ga. Senior plz guied
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 22, 2015, 06:16:12 PM
next thursday/friday
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: zahid on May 23, 2015, 01:30:37 PM
Senior plz suggest for fresh buying price.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 23, 2015, 02:58:36 PM
Senior plz suggest for fresh buying price.
i think 32-30...baki nadeem bhai he guide krenge
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: zahid on May 23, 2015, 03:51:48 PM
Dear i am not talking about right share. PRL main Share
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 24, 2015, 04:32:18 PM
40-45
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on May 24, 2015, 09:15:32 PM
Senior plz suggest for fresh buying price.

wait for 30-33 range then buy
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 25, 2015, 01:55:32 AM
First target of 44-45 short term subject to market conditions
And whats the target by SEPT?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Tariq Ahmed on May 25, 2015, 03:52:33 PM
PRLR KI BUYING KIS RATE PE BANTI HAY ???  :s1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on May 26, 2015, 09:44:36 AM
Senior plz suggest for fresh buying price.

wait for 30-33 range then buy

INSHALLAH isi range ki taruf a reha hay
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: umarm on May 27, 2015, 08:29:38 AM
When is the last day to subscribe to the rights ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Javed Khan on May 27, 2015, 02:44:53 PM
aj upper lock kahan tak ja sakta hai ?? nadeem bhai omer bhai or any other senior
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Omer The Researcher on May 28, 2015, 01:35:23 PM
sorry javed bhai m not covering prl but at least aj tou u should hold
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Javed Khan on May 28, 2015, 03:22:57 PM
Omer any wild guess like when should I sell my holding ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Shaikh on June 04, 2015, 02:38:54 PM
When is the last day to subscribe to the rights ?

yar Can any 1 plz tell me how to make payment of right shares of PRLR and what is last date?? help!! :bangin:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: farhan.AG on June 04, 2015, 06:40:03 PM
 :bangin:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on June 04, 2015, 06:50:35 PM
 
When is the last day to subscribe to the rights ?

yar Can any 1 plz tell me how to make payment of right shares of PRLR and what is last date?? help!! :bangin:

(http://puu.sh/ic8Eu/782a5e32f3.png)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 05, 2015, 01:12:16 PM
Investors subscribe for right shares another satta expected after right don't sell
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on June 05, 2015, 01:23:00 PM
Investors subscribe for right shares another satta expected after right don't sell

Should we buy prl right or prl??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 05, 2015, 01:33:26 PM
Right is better option. Bc of 10-11 rs difference in price
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: bkapadia on June 05, 2015, 05:39:30 PM
i am holding prlr @ 37.70, should i sell before trading stops on tuesday or subscribe the right :confused1:?? Suggestions from all member are appreciated. Thanx  :confused1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on June 05, 2015, 05:46:25 PM
i am holding prlr @ 37.70, should i sell before trading stops on tuesday or subscribe the right :confused1:?? Suggestions from all member are appreciated. Thanx  :confused1:

I donot recommend to buy right share, instead invest in SEARLE or Cement company like FCCL bcz is main tezi kafi dair say due hay
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on June 05, 2015, 11:37:39 PM
Right is better option. Bc of 10-11 rs difference in price

Regular shares men convert kis date ko ho rhe han??? :skeptic:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Gh on June 06, 2015, 12:15:01 AM
I think by 6th of july right will be converted to normal shares.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 06, 2015, 08:24:45 PM
Those u miss the chance to buy on Friday due to upper lock must buy on dip if market falls due to budget
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 06, 2015, 08:33:09 PM
Those u miss the chance to buy on Friday due to upper lock must buy on dip if market falls due to budget

Sirjee koi TP bhi bata dein...Jazak-Allah
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 06, 2015, 08:37:44 PM
Those u miss the chance to buy on Friday due to upper lock must buy on dip if market falls due to budget

Sirjee koi TP bhi bata dein...Jazak-Allah
between 65-70 till sep-15
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 08, 2015, 11:53:04 AM
Those u miss the chance to buy on Friday due to upper lock must buy on dip if market falls due to budget
laoo cap
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: shafiq on June 08, 2015, 12:05:14 PM
So many times I have said that " Nadeem Bhai is the father of technical anylsis"
Friday KO jab m me Pael 50% sold kya to aap ne Pkr right lene ki advice di, sir 38 buy & now sold in 40 today :dance :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on June 08, 2015, 12:14:23 PM
Great work nadeem bro.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 09, 2015, 04:22:40 PM
Those u miss the chance to buy on Friday due to upper lock must buy on dip if market falls due to budget

Sirjee koi TP bhi bata dein...Jazak-Allah
between 65-70 till sep-15 laoo 70
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 10, 2015, 01:30:14 PM
Laoo cap o cap 70
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Javed Khan on June 10, 2015, 01:43:02 PM
is PRL shariah compliant ? kindly guide I shall be highly obliged
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on June 10, 2015, 04:35:20 PM
Laoo cap o cap 70
Nadeem sb ... In upper locks ki waja kya ha ... Secondly 70 pe sell ker dena chahyae ya phir hold kerna chahyae , agar short term investment ha ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 10, 2015, 04:54:55 PM
Laoo cap o cap 70
Nadeem sb ... In upper locks ki waja kya ha ... Secondly 70 pe sell ker dena chahyae ya phir hold kerna chahyae , agar short term investment ha ?
if u hold till last week of June then u get decent return
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on June 10, 2015, 07:44:19 PM
Laoo cap o cap 70
Nadeem sb ... In upper locks ki waja kya ha ... Secondly 70 pe sell ker dena chahyae ya phir hold kerna chahyae , agar short term investment ha ?
if u hold till last week of June then u get decent return
Thx Nadeem sb ... By the way by the last week of June , what is the TP according to you ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 10, 2015, 07:55:02 PM
Laoo cap o cap 70
Nadeem sb ... In upper locks ki waja kya ha ... Secondly 70 pe sell ker dena chahyae ya phir hold kerna chahyae , agar short term investment ha ?
if u hold till last week of June then u get decent return
Thx Nadeem sb ... By the way by the last week of June , what is the TP according to you ?
between 70-80 subject to market conditions
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Javed Khan on June 11, 2015, 02:32:37 PM
Laoo cap o cap 70

where is cap today ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 11, 2015, 03:54:14 PM
Laoo cap o cap 70

where is cap today ?
in the morning 255000 buyer at upper lock
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Javed Khan on June 11, 2015, 04:15:09 PM
Laoo cap o cap 70

where is cap today ?
in the morning 255000 buyer at upper lock

but u said cap o cap 70 it didnt even touch 67 yet and rebounded back to 63 now should i hold or book loss ?? I entered on upper lock after your post
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 11, 2015, 04:52:11 PM
Bro be patience hold u can get decent profit inshaallah
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: jkhaliq on June 11, 2015, 07:25:25 PM
Bro be patience hold u can get decent profit inshaallah

btw nadeem sb whats your TP for lets say 2 months?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Javed Khan on June 11, 2015, 07:45:04 PM
Bro be patience hold u can get decent profit inshaallah

Ok thanks
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: drcampk on June 11, 2015, 11:07:04 PM
Laoo cap o cap

where is cap today ?
 in the morning 255000 buyer at upper lock


but u said cap o cap 70 it didnt even touch 67 yet and rebounded back to 63 now should i hold or book loss ?? I entered on upper lock after your post

Brother Nadeem didn't mention in any single post that people should buy at these levels. He only guide us that PRL shares can go upto these levels like 70-80.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: drcampk on June 11, 2015, 11:11:23 PM
Brother Nadeem doing very good job for us.
:thanks: :thanks: :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 11, 2015, 11:16:06 PM
Even those who subscribe right shares at 40+10=50 should gain at least 10-15Rs minimum for just 20 days investment those who hold till aug-15 after the opening of prl isomorisation project can get even more decent profit
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 13, 2015, 05:38:56 AM
Nadeem bahi what happened to prl??
nothing hold at least till sep-15
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Dehan on June 13, 2015, 09:34:19 AM
Nadeem bahi what happened to prl??
nothing hold at least till sep-15
After credit of right shares (800%), we will witness more pressure as outstanding shares will be increased from 35M to 315M. At present it has a low free float so manipulation is easy right now but after credit of rights game will b different.
 
On the fundamental side we now that ts very hard for even a Top growing Co to meet the requirements of such gigantic increase in issued capital.
Share credit honein say  pehlay jo game karni ha kar loo.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on June 13, 2015, 09:55:08 AM
Nadeem bahi what happened to prl??
nothing hold at least till sep-15
After credit of right shares (800%), we will witness more pressure as outstanding shares will be increased from 35M to 315M. At present it has a low free float so manipulation is easy right now but after credit of rights game will b different.
 
On the fundamental side we now that ts very hard for even a Top growing Co to meet the requirements of such gigantic increase in issued capital.
Share credit honein say  pehlay jo game karni ha kar loo.

Similar views were expressed by forum members when pibtl announced approx. 1300% right shares. pibtl at that point in time needed 2.5 years to go operational. Despite such huge increase in float size, pibtl almost doubled (83% appreciation to be precise) in just 7 months from 23.5 on rights credit date to 42.85 on feb 09.

In case of prl 40% shares are B class which wont be coming to market even if the restriction on their tradeability is removed as per yesterdays notice as these are strategic holdings of shell, pso, chevron. Another 15 % is strategic holding is with hascol. This leaves hardly 45% tradeable float. Approx. 140 million shares as against 370 million in case of pibtl.

Besides, refining margins are in a purple patch. In first quarter FY 16 (MOST PROBABLY JULY) there is a major trigger of completion of isomerization and DHDS project. These projects will have significant impact on earnings profile and profitability as claimed by the company. Huge accumulation has been done in rights by HNWs in the range of Rs. 36 of 42 (i.e 46 to 52 after paying the subscription amount). I dont think they will like to sell below 60. In the circumstances, I am inclined to voe for the prediction of nadeem bhai.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on June 13, 2015, 10:03:51 AM
word "voe" may be read as "vote".
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Dehan on June 13, 2015, 11:57:50 AM
Nadeem bahi what happened to prl??
nothing hold at least till sep-15
After credit of right shares (800%), we will witness more pressure as outstanding shares will be increased from 35M to 315M. At present it has a low free float so manipulation is easy right now but after credit of rights game will b different.
 
On the fundamental side we now that ts very hard for even a Top growing Co to meet the requirements of such gigantic increase in issued capital.
Share credit honein say  pehlay jo game karni ha kar loo.

Similar views were expressed by forum members when pibtl announced approx. 1300% right shares. pibtl at that point in time needed 2.5 years to go operational. Despite such huge increase in float size, pibtl almost doubled (83% appreciation to be precise) in just 7 months from 23.5 on rights credit date to 42.85 on feb 09.

In case of prl 40% shares are B class which wont be coming to market even if the restriction on their tradeability is removed as per yesterdays notice as these are strategic holdings of shell, pso, chevron. Another 15 % is strategic holding is with hascol. This leaves hardly 45% tradeable float. Approx. 140 million shares as against 370 million in case of pibtl.

Besides, refining margins are in a purple patch. In first quarter FY 16 (MOST PROBABLY JULY) there is a major trigger of completion of isomerization and DHDS project. These projects will have significant impact on earnings profile and profitability as claimed by the company. Huge accumulation has been done in rights by HNWs in the range of Rs. 36 of 42 (i.e 46 to 52 after paying the subscription amount). I dont think they will like to sell below 60. In the circumstances, I am inclined to voe for the prediction of nadeem bhai.
http://www.pakinvestorsguide.com/index.php?action=post;topic=298.620;quote=211845

Kindly look at  the Financials of the company as well. There is a negative Equity 5.2 billion which comprises of Accumulated loss of around 6 billion.  It has Liabilities of 26.4 billion most of them r Current. Current Assets r around 13 billion. The Co has suffered loss of Rs. 2.5 billion till 3rd qtr 2015 on the other hand it will get 2.8 billion from the right issue. This not the case like PIBTL.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Dehan on June 13, 2015, 12:01:43 PM
Nadeem bahi what happened to prl??
nothing hold at least till sep-15
After credit of right shares (800%), we will witness more pressure as outstanding shares will be increased from 35M to 315M. At present it has a low free float so manipulation is easy right now but after credit of rights game will b different.
 
On the fundamental side we now that ts very hard for even a Top growing Co to meet the requirements of such gigantic increase in issued capital.
Share credit honein say  pehlay jo game karni ha kar loo.

Similar views were expressed by forum members when pibtl announced approx. 1300% right shares. pibtl at that point in time needed 2.5 years to go operational. Despite such huge increase in float size, pibtl almost doubled (83% appreciation to be precise) in just 7 months from 23.5 on rights credit date to 42.85 on feb 09.

In case of prl 40% shares are B class which wont be coming to market even if the restriction on their tradeability is removed as per yesterdays notice as these are strategic holdings of shell, pso, chevron. Another 15 % is strategic holding is with hascol. This leaves hardly 45% tradeable float. Approx. 140 million shares as against 370 million in case of pibtl.

Besides, refining margins are in a purple patch. In first quarter FY 16 (MOST PROBABLY JULY) there is a major trigger of completion of isomerization and DHDS project. These projects will have significant impact on earnings profile and profitability as claimed by the company. Huge accumulation has been done in rights by HNWs in the range of Rs. 36 of 42 (i.e 46 to 52 after paying the subscription amount). I dont think they will like to sell below 60. In the circumstances, I am inclined to voe for the prediction of nadeem bhai.
http://www.prl.com.pk/downloads/3rdquarterreport15.pdf

Kindly look at  the Financials of the company as well. There is a negative Equity 5.2 billion which comprises of Accumulated loss of around 6 billion.  It has Liabilities of 26.4 billion most of them r Current. Current Assets r around 13 billion. The Co has suffered loss of Rs. 2.5 billion till 3rd qtr 2015 on the other hand it will get 2.8 billion from the right issue. This not the case like PIBTL.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on June 13, 2015, 12:43:03 PM
Nadeem bahi what happened to prl??
nothing hold at least till sep-15
After credit of right shares (800%), we will witness more pressure as outstanding shares will be increased from 35M to 315M. At present it has a low free float so manipulation is easy right now but after credit of rights game will b different.
 
On the fundamental side we now that ts very hard for even a Top growing Co to meet the requirements of such gigantic increase in issued capital.
Share credit honein say  pehlay jo game karni ha kar loo.

Similar views were expressed by forum members when pibtl announced approx. 1300% right shares. pibtl at that point in time needed 2.5 years to go operational. Despite such huge increase in float size, pibtl almost doubled (83% appreciation to be precise) in just 7 months from 23.5 on rights credit date to 42.85 on feb 09.

In case of prl 40% shares are B class which wont be coming to market even if the restriction on their tradeability is removed as per yesterdays notice as these are strategic holdings of shell, pso, chevron. Another 15 % is strategic holding is with hascol. This leaves hardly 45% tradeable float. Approx. 140 million shares as against 370 million in case of pibtl.

Besides, refining margins are in a purple patch. In first quarter FY 16 (MOST PROBABLY JULY) there is a major trigger of completion of isomerization and DHDS project. These projects will have significant impact on earnings profile and profitability as claimed by the company. Huge accumulation has been done in rights by HNWs in the range of Rs. 36 of 42 (i.e 46 to 52 after paying the subscription amount). I dont think they will like to sell below 60. In the circumstances, I am inclined to voe for the prediction of nadeem bhai.
http://www.prl.com.pk/downloads/3rdquarterreport15.pdf

Kindly look at  the Financials of the company as well. There is a negative Equity 5.2 billion which comprises of Accumulated loss of around 6 billion.  It has Liabilities of 26.4 billion most of them r Current. Current Assets r around 13 billion. The Co has suffered loss of Rs. 2.5 billion till 3rd qtr 2015 on the other hand it will get 2.8 billion from the right issue. This not the case like PIBTL.

What u have stated is public knowledge. That is nothing new.Yet strategic investors have taken further positions in it. Major investors have decided to subscribe. The reason of course is future potential. PSO has even gone to the court to purchase shares renounced by Shell which chevron had agreed to purchase and subscribe.

Also check the results of third quarter. In fourth quarter the earnings will be even better than 3rd quarter due to better refining margins and inventory gains
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on June 13, 2015, 12:50:38 PM
If balance sheets could tell the whole story, then trg should be trading Rs. 5 per share!!!
and accountants and munshis would be calling the shots.
 :tongue: :D
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Dehan on June 13, 2015, 12:59:27 PM
Nadeem bahi what happened to prl??
nothing hold at least till sep-15
After credit of right shares (800%), we will witness more pressure as outstanding shares will be increased from 35M to 315M. At present it has a low free float so manipulation is easy right now but after credit of rights game will b different.
 
On the fundamental side we now that ts very hard for even a Top growing Co to meet the requirements of such gigantic increase in issued capital.
Share credit honein say  pehlay jo game karni ha kar loo.

Similar views were expressed by forum members when pibtl announced approx. 1300% right shares. pibtl at that point in time needed 2.5 years to go operational. Despite such huge increase in float size, pibtl almost doubled (83% appreciation to be precise) in just 7 months from 23.5 on rights credit date to 42.85 on feb 09.

In case of prl 40% shares are B class which wont be coming to market even if the restriction on their tradeability is removed as per yesterdays notice as these are strategic holdings of shell, pso, chevron. Another 15 % is strategic holding is with hascol. This leaves hardly 45% tradeable float. Approx. 140 million shares as against 370 million in case of pibtl.

Besides, refining margins are in a purple patch. In first quarter FY 16 (MOST PROBABLY JULY) there is a major trigger of completion of isomerization and DHDS project. These projects will have significant impact on earnings profile and profitability as claimed by the company. Huge accumulation has been done in rights by HNWs in the range of Rs. 36 of 42 (i.e 46 to 52 after paying the subscription amount). I dont think they will like to sell below 60. In the circumstances, I am inclined to voe for the prediction of nadeem bhai.
http://www.prl.com.pk/downloads/3rdquarterreport15.pdf

Kindly look at  the Financials of the company as well. There is a negative Equity 5.2 billion which comprises of Accumulated loss of around 6 billion.  It has Liabilities of 26.4 billion most of them r Current. Current Assets r around 13 billion. The Co has suffered loss of Rs. 2.5 billion till 3rd qtr 2015 on the other hand it will get 2.8 billion from the right issue. This not the case like PIBTL.

What u have stated is public knowledge. That is nothing new.Yet strategic investors have taken further positions in it. Major investors have decided to subscribe. The reason of course is future potential. PSO has even gone to the court to purchase shares renounced by Shell which chevron had agreed to purchase and subscribe.

Also check the results of third quarter. In fourth quarter the earnings will be even better than 3rd quarter due to better refining margins and inventory gains
Negative Equity wala share, liquidity crunch wali company aur 800% increase in issued capital aur share price 60+ ho.
Meray jaisay bohat say logon ko nahi pata hota k andar khanein kia chal reha ha. Isi lia thora financial daikha dia k record ka hissa rehay.
Lets see what will happens. 
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Dehan on June 13, 2015, 01:01:33 PM
If balance sheets could tell the whole story, then trg should be trading Rs. 5 per share!!!
and accountants and munshis would be calling the shots.
 :tongue: :D
TRG ka kissa koch aur ha.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on June 13, 2015, 01:05:04 PM
I respect ur views.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on June 13, 2015, 01:06:59 PM
Dehan bro;

By the way, trg ki kya story hai. Kindly share.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on June 13, 2015, 02:16:11 PM
Nadeem bahi what happened to prl??
nothing hold at least till sep-15
After credit of right shares (800%), we will witness more pressure as outstanding shares will be increased from 35M to 315M. At present it has a low free float so manipulation is easy right now but after credit of rights game will b different.
 
On the fundamental side we now that ts very hard for even a Top growing Co to meet the requirements of such gigantic increase in issued capital.
Share credit honein say  pehlay jo game karni ha kar loo.
Shares kub tuk credit ho jain gaye ??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 13, 2015, 05:48:43 PM
I am not recommending for fresh investments in prl but those who already bought on my buy call get 150% profit in just two months some peoples r shouting in this forum that right share trade in market at Rs 10-13 but by the grace of god upper lock in right at 41.64 in last trading session at the end even who bought right at 40 and subscribed can get 5-10Rs profit in just twenty days or more another satta is expected after the credit of right shared in CDC account when public r out thanks
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: wasiq on June 13, 2015, 06:09:07 PM
I am not recommending for fresh investments in prl but those who already bought on my buy call get 150% profit in just two months some peoples r shouting in this forum that right share trade in market at Rs 10-13 but by the grace of god upper lock in right at 41.64 in last trading session at the end even who bought right at 40 and subscribed can get 5-10Rs profit in just twenty days or more another satta is expected after the credit of right shared in CDC account when public r out thanks

you always give superb calls nadeem bhai..i buy and sell blindly on your specific calls..keep up the good work :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 13, 2015, 06:53:20 PM
Thanks wasiq sahib
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: kahaf on June 13, 2015, 06:57:08 PM
Thanks wasiq sahib
                                                                                                                                                                                                        any comment about noon pakistan limited bhai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 13, 2015, 06:58:57 PM
Thanks wasiq sahib
                                                                                                                                                                                                        any comment about noon pakistan limited bhai
brother very sorry no idea about noon pak ltd
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: shahzad915 on June 13, 2015, 07:02:10 PM
Tips of nadeem bhai are very helpful and I got handsome profit by following the guidance of nadeem bhai. Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on June 13, 2015, 11:26:55 PM
I am not recommending for fresh investments in prl but those who already bought on my buy call get 150% profit in just two months some peoples r shouting in this forum that right share trade in market at Rs 10-13 but by the grace of god upper lock in right at 41.64 in last trading session at the end even who bought right at 40 and subscribed can get 5-10Rs profit in just twenty days or more another satta is expected after the credit of right shared in CDC account when public r out thanks
Nadeem sb .... people who bought and subscribed right at 40 can get profit of 5-10 Rs , does this mean that PRL share price will be 45 -50 Rs .... Currently it is around 61 .. Sorry for asking such a stupid question but appreciate if you clarify . Thx .   
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Shaikh on June 15, 2015, 10:32:50 PM

[/quote] Shares kub tuk credit ho jain gaye ??
[/quote]

on 06 July, 2015
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 15, 2015, 11:14:57 PM
I am not recommending for fresh investments in prl but those who already bought on my buy call get 150% profit in just two months some peoples r shouting in this forum that right share trade in market at Rs 10-13 but by the grace of god upper lock in right at 41.64 in last trading session at the end even who bought right at 40 and subscribed can get 5-10Rs profit in just twenty days or more another satta is expected after the credit of right shared in CDC account when public r out thanks
Nadeem sb .... people who bought and subscribed right at 40 can get profit of 5-10 Rs , does this mean that PRL share price will be 45 -50 Rs .... Currently it is around 61 .. Sorry for asking such a stupid question but appreciate if you clarify . Thx .
in worst conditions if share price fallen to 55 but don't worry if u have holding capacity till sep-15 then u can get decent returns
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on June 17, 2015, 11:37:38 PM
Today looking stable around 60.
Still going down :(
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on June 18, 2015, 02:26:52 PM
Nadeem sb ... June ke end mein kuch behtri ho gi ya asae hi rahae ga .. Kya khyal ha .. I Know u r optimistic about the price at August end / Mid September but June ke end tuk kya possibility ha ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: patient_invester on June 18, 2015, 03:25:15 PM
Seniors can you please advice for scrip. Good to buy at this level?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 18, 2015, 04:10:54 PM
Nadeem sb ... June ke end mein kuch behtri ho gi ya asae hi rahae ga .. Kya khyal ha .. I Know u r optimistic about the price at August end / Mid September but June ke end tuk kya possibility ha ?
short term should trade in between 56-60
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on June 22, 2015, 01:15:51 PM
Nadeem sb ... June ke end mein kuch behtri ho gi ya asae hi rahae ga .. Kya khyal ha .. I Know u r optimistic about the price at August end / Mid September but June ke end tuk kya possibility ha ?
short term should trade in between 56-60
It seems that it will be below 50 by June end :(
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: drcampk on June 22, 2015, 03:34:21 PM
Good buy below 50.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: drcampk on June 23, 2015, 10:31:10 AM
Capped with very low volume
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on June 23, 2015, 10:56:13 AM
laaaaooo 65 :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on June 23, 2015, 01:21:31 PM
laaaaooo 65 :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance
Can this rally cross 65 and reach 70 .... ??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on June 23, 2015, 02:14:06 PM
http://e.dunya.com.pk/detail.php?date=2015-06-23&edition=LHR&id=1759438_96215366
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on June 23, 2015, 05:04:45 PM
Nadeem sb ... June ke end mein kuch behtri ho gi ya asae hi rahae ga .. Kya khyal ha .. I Know u r optimistic about the price at August end / Mid September but June ke end tuk kya possibility ha ?
short term should trade in between 56-60
Nadeem sb .. Any news about the isomerization project ... will it start in time i.e 1st qtr of 2015-16 ...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 23, 2015, 05:57:46 PM
Nadeem sb ... June ke end mein kuch behtri ho gi ya asae hi rahae ga .. Kya khyal ha .. I Know u r optimistic about the price at August end / Mid September but June ke end tuk kya possibility ha ?
short term should trade in between 56-60
Nadeem sb .. Any news about the isomerization project ... will it start in time i.e 1st qtr of 2015-16 ...
inshaallah in between July to aug
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on June 24, 2015, 12:07:11 AM
Nadeem sb ... June ke end mein kuch behtri ho gi ya asae hi rahae ga .. Kya khyal ha .. I Know u r optimistic about the price at August end / Mid September but June ke end tuk kya possibility ha ?
short term should trade in between 56-60
Nadeem sb .. Any news about the isomerization project ... will it start in time i.e 1st qtr of 2015-16 ...
inshaallah in between July to aug
so we should see a series of upper locks between July and August ......
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 24, 2015, 08:10:56 AM
Nadeem sb ... June ke end mein kuch behtri ho gi ya asae hi rahae ga .. Kya khyal ha .. I Know u r optimistic about the price at August end / Mid September but June ke end tuk kya possibility ha ?
short term should trade in between 56-60
Nadeem sb .. Any news about the isomerization project ... will it start in time i.e 1st qtr of 2015-16 ...
inshaallah in between July to aug
so we should see a series of upper locks between July and August ......
luqman sahib prl is not trading stock its for investment if u r short term holder then should sell in between 62.51-65 to book your profit stock market activity is so uncertain no one100% predict how to react in future
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: patient_invester on June 24, 2015, 10:03:08 AM
Nadeem bhai is it good to take entry at current levels or wait for dip? I'm thinking to invest till Dec15. Can you please guide me about the TP? Thanks!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on June 27, 2015, 03:58:41 AM
In case of pibtl approx. 12 million shares remained unsubscribed which were taken up by underwriters. In case of prl what % of shares is expected to remain un-subscribed. Any one having rough idea/ prediction????

The answer would be available early next week. My prediction is approx 11% of the total rights issue.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on June 27, 2015, 06:34:39 AM
 INAUGURATION OF ISOMERIZATION PLANT (http://www.prl.com.pk/isom/2015.php)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on June 27, 2015, 06:41:20 AM
INAUGURATION OF ISOMERIZATION PLANT (http://www.prl.com.pk/isom/2015.php)

market cap is only slightly less than NRL now ..
Looks pretty overvalued  :skeptic:
or NRL is hugely undervalued as its easily twice as big as PRL and historically has been much more profitable
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sm.mughal on June 27, 2015, 07:54:43 AM
Is it the right time for purchase? what its long and short term TP
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on June 27, 2015, 12:02:57 PM
INAUGURATION OF ISOMERIZATION PLANT (http://www.prl.com.pk/isom/2015.php)

market cap is only slightly less than NRL now ..
Looks pretty overvalued  :skeptic:
or NRL is hugely undervalued as its easily twice as big as PRL and historically has been much more profitable

Both are under valued
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on June 29, 2015, 04:56:36 PM
(http://www.kse.com.pk/newsimage/67120-1.gif)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on June 30, 2015, 10:41:58 PM
a day or two before eid. 17th july.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on June 30, 2015, 10:45:25 PM
When r shares will be converted to prl and start trading?  Can any body guide?
from 06-07-15
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on June 30, 2015, 10:51:15 PM
Referred back to the PRL notice and found the following info:

"Tentative date for credit of right shares is 6th July 2015".
Nadeemkhaliq is correct.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: wasiq on July 01, 2015, 03:29:21 AM
When r shares will be converted to prl and start trading?  Can any body guide?
from 06-07-15

nadeem bhai what is the good price to buy it? mery khiyal main to right share convrt hony k bad is main dip ana chye.. i mean from 6 onwards  :confused1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on July 01, 2015, 03:36:24 AM
When r shares will be converted to prl and start trading?  Can any body guide?
from 06-07-15

nadeem bhai what is the good price to buy it? mery khiyal main to right share convrt hony k bad is main dip ana chye.. i mean from 6 onwards  :confused1:
wait for fresh buying until right shares price settled next week but if u have investment period of 3-4 months then get good return in future
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on July 05, 2015, 11:23:55 PM
 shares kb tk credit honge or trading kb s start h???
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfankhan on July 05, 2015, 11:43:40 PM
When r shares will be converted to prl and start trading?  Can any body guide?
from 06-07-15

nadeem bhai what is the good price to buy it? mery khiyal main to right share convrt hony k bad is main dip ana chye.. i mean from 6 onwards  :confused1:
wait for fresh buying until right shares price settled next week but if u have investment period of 3-4 months then get good return in future
I am just selling my ATRL shares.

If invested in this PRL whats target for 4 months?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on July 05, 2015, 11:55:49 PM
When r shares will be converted to prl and start trading?  Can any body guide?
from 06-07-15

nadeem bhai what is the good price to buy it? mery khiyal main to right share convrt hony k bad is main dip ana chye.. i mean from 6 onwards  :confused1:
wait for fresh buying until right shares price settled next week but if u have investment period of 3-4 months then get good return in future
I am just selling my ATRL shares.

If invested in this PRL whats target for 4 months?

wait chances monday mkt will take some dip
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on July 06, 2015, 08:35:02 PM
Shares kab tak credit honge account main?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on July 07, 2015, 08:59:10 AM
Koi is ka bta sakhta hai shares kb th credit hongey???
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: patient_invester on July 07, 2015, 09:44:41 AM
Seniors.... can you please advise about the TP for this in next 3-4 months or till Dec15?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: drcampk on July 07, 2015, 10:33:51 AM
Lower capped  :thumbsdown_anim:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: wasiq on July 07, 2015, 12:41:39 PM
nadeem bhai prl ke buying kis rate pay karni chye?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on July 07, 2015, 02:23:15 PM
nadeem bhai prl ke buying kis rate pay karni chye?
between 53-55
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: aabugvi on July 08, 2015, 06:59:16 AM
Seniors.... can you please advise about the TP for this in next 3-4 months or till Dec15?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: patient_invester on July 08, 2015, 09:01:39 AM
Nadeem please advise the TP for next 2-3 months. Jazakumallah!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: patient_invester on July 08, 2015, 09:19:24 AM
Chalo bhai eik aur LL  :bangin: bismillah hote he!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on July 08, 2015, 10:20:07 AM
85 taak ki tip hai iss ki ?


need confirmation
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: aftab ahmed on July 08, 2015, 10:35:34 AM
buying rate plzz
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: wasiq on July 08, 2015, 11:08:40 AM
nadeem bhai prl ke buying kis rate pay karni chye?
between 53-55

nadeem bhai phr kal say buying start ke jye?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on July 08, 2015, 02:09:08 PM
nadeem bhai prl ke buying kis rate pay karni chye?
between 53-55

nadeem bhai phr kal say buying start ke jye?
most probably lower lock open tomorrow 50% buy tomorrow if lock sustain then another 50%
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on July 08, 2015, 02:10:08 PM
85 taak ki tip hai iss ki ?


need confirmation
bhai 75-80 inshaallah sep-15
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: danishhussain93 on July 08, 2015, 02:17:32 PM
thanks nadeem bhai aap nay bataya inshaa allah tomorrow i will buy  :thanks: :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfankhan on July 08, 2015, 05:42:14 PM
85 taak ki tip hai iss ki ?


need confirmation
bhai 75-80 inshaallah sep-15

Nadeem bhai short term main yeh 2 cap aur lag raha hai means 49 touch kar sakta hai because of public is stuck right now.

Whats your comment on this. bottom out ka koi idea?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on July 08, 2015, 06:20:44 PM
85 taak ki tip hai iss ki ?


need confirmation
bhai 75-80 inshaallah sep-15
irfan sahib kal inshaallah lock khul jaye ga

Nadeem bhai short term main yeh 2 cap aur lag raha hai means 49 touch kar sakta hai because of public is stuck right now.

Whats your comment on this. bottom out ka koi idea?
irfan sahib tomorrow lower lock should open
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on July 08, 2015, 06:24:54 PM
85 taak ki tip hai iss ki ?


need confirmation
bhai 75-80 inshaallah sep-15
irfan sahib kal inshaallah lock khul jaye ga

Nadeem bhai short term main yeh 2 cap aur lag raha hai means 49 touch kar sakta hai because of public is stuck right now.

Whats your comment on this. bottom out ka koi idea?
irfan sahib tomorrow lower lock should open
Insha Allah
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfankhan on July 08, 2015, 06:27:02 PM
bhai its taking time to find the right rate. i mean 10+ ?? = right value.

what was the right rate junta and directors paid.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Dehan on July 08, 2015, 06:33:15 PM
Nadeem bahi what happened to prl??
nothing hold at least till sep-15
After credit of right shares (800%), we will witness more pressure as outstanding shares will be increased from 35M to 315M. At present it has a low free float so manipulation is easy right now but after credit of rights game will b different.
 
On the fundamental side we know that its very hard for even a Top growing Co to meet the requirements of such gigantic increase in issued capital.
Share credit honein say  pehlay jo game karni ha kar loo.
Kafi shoor hova tha meri is post pa.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on July 08, 2015, 06:42:47 PM
Target price oct-15 Rs 75
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on July 08, 2015, 06:44:29 PM
Target price oct-15 Rs 75

Insha Allah
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on July 08, 2015, 08:03:28 PM
Target price oct-15 Rs 75
Nadeem Bhai with the TP of 75 in Oct-15, what should be the ideal entry level. I want to invest Rs.1500k. Please advice...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on July 08, 2015, 08:08:21 PM
85 taak ki tip hai iss ki ?


need confirmation
bhai 75-80 inshaallah sep-15
irfan sahib kal inshaallah lock khul jaye ga

Nadeem bhai short term main yeh 2 cap aur lag raha hai means 49 touch kar sakta hai because of public is stuck right now.

Whats your comment on this. bottom out ka koi idea?
irfan sahib tomorrow lower lock should open
Nadeem sb ... Eid se pehle market shaid aur neechae jaye ... Don't you think best day to buy PRL should be the last working day before Eid holidays ?? 
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on July 08, 2015, 08:08:33 PM
Nadeem bahi what happened to prl??
nothing hold at least till sep-15
After credit of right shares (800%), we will witness more pressure as outstanding shares will be increased from 35M to 315M. At present it has a low free float so manipulation is easy right now but after credit of rights game will b different.
 
On the fundamental side we know that its very hard for even a Top growing Co to meet the requirements of such gigantic increase in issued capital.
Share credit honein say  pehlay jo game karni ha kar loo.
Kafi shoor hova tha meri is post pa.

Game abhi baki hai mere dost. Too early to right it off.

Also free float is not 315 M. It is only 126 M - 43.25 (shareholding of HASCOL which is substantial) =  82.75 M

And that 82.75 M also includes holding of directors. One director bought huge quantity of rights as well at 37 i think.

Plus JS also got 8.14 M shares as underwriter.

Selling pressure is temporary.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: zelmc on July 08, 2015, 08:32:19 PM
Nadeem bhai, With 9M eps of -70.97, negative book value, and a huge debt burden, how do you see the future of PRL? It will be very beneficial for the forum members if you can shed some light upon it.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: drcampk on July 09, 2015, 09:11:35 AM
Today again lower lock in pre open  :bangin:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: patient_invester on July 09, 2015, 09:16:29 AM
Giving more buying opportunity for re-entrants! That's a good sign. Junta should hold on to take new entries in my opinion.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: drcampk on July 09, 2015, 09:24:24 AM
Lower lock opened  :dance :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Muhammad Hamza Rizwan on July 09, 2015, 09:38:21 AM
Nadeem bhai or any other senior do you recommend buying of PRL today?  :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on July 09, 2015, 09:44:24 AM
Aj tou positive m hi band hota lag raha hai :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: drcampk on July 09, 2015, 10:04:11 AM
Aj tou positive m hi band hota lag raha hai :dance :dance :dance :dance :dance

Very possible
In negative market, very good performance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: drcampk on July 09, 2015, 10:07:05 AM
Lao 55 +++  :clap1: :clap1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: patient_invester on July 09, 2015, 10:16:25 AM
Nadeem bhai or any other senior do you recommend buying of PRL today?  :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on July 09, 2015, 02:13:29 PM
Nadeem bhai or any other senior do you recommend buying of PRL today?  :thanks:
read my pre
Target price oct-15 Rs 75
read my previous post in which I told that lower lock should open today

Read my previous post in ehich
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on July 09, 2015, 02:35:15 PM
Nadeem bhai or any other senior do you recommend buying of PRL today?  :thanks:
read my pre
Target price oct-15 Rs 75
read my previous post in which I told that lower lock should open today

Read my previous post in ehich

I fully acknowledge. Great work nadeem bhai.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Mubashar on July 09, 2015, 05:07:06 PM
NADeem bhai u r great
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: wasiq on July 09, 2015, 05:34:15 PM
Nadeem bhai or any other senior do you recommend buying of PRL today?  :thanks:
read my pre
Target price oct-15 Rs 75
read my previous post in which I told that lower lock should open today

Read my previous post in ehich




great call nadeem bhai  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on July 09, 2015, 07:23:57 PM
got some today 75 re sale karain gay god willing
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on July 09, 2015, 07:58:05 PM
got some today 75 re sale karain gay God willing

Insha Allah.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on July 09, 2015, 08:46:37 PM
got some today 75 re sale karain gay god willing
75 nah 100 INSHALLAH
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: drcampk on July 10, 2015, 12:17:57 AM


 
85 taak ki tip hai iss ki ?


need confirmation
bhai 75-80 inshaallah sep-15
irfan sahib kal inshaallah lock khul jaye ga

Nadeem bhai short term main yeh 2 cap aur lag raha hai means 49 touch kar sakta hai because of public is stuck right now.

Whats your comment on this. bottom out ka koi idea?
irfan sahib tomorrow lower lock should open

MashaAllah as usual Nadeem Bhai timely call.  :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfankhan on July 10, 2015, 02:25:42 AM


 
85 taak ki tip hai iss ki ?


need confirmation
bhai 75-80 inshaallah sep-15
irfan sahib kal inshaallah lock khul jaye ga

Nadeem bhai short term main yeh 2 cap aur lag raha hai means 49 touch kar sakta hai because of public is stuck right now.

Whats your comment on this. bottom out ka koi idea?
irfan sahib tomorrow lower lock should open

MashaAllah as usual Nadeem Bhai timely call.  :thanks:

Nadeembhai has very good vision on PRL. i got greedy bought only 7k at lower cap now rates change.

Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: salaara579 on July 10, 2015, 09:57:50 AM
Entry banti hay 55.30 pa kya?? i think good rate to buy. seniors pls suggest
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: patient_invester on July 10, 2015, 10:16:36 AM
Yes nadeem bhai please suggest. We need your valuable opinion. Thanks!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: danishhussain93 on July 11, 2015, 09:37:15 PM
Assalam-0-alikum nadeem bhai, please Treet ka  Kuch Bata den ye kb tak increase honay ka chance he ya main sell out kardo please as a opinion bta den :thanks: :thanks: :thanks: :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on July 11, 2015, 10:09:33 PM
Yes nadeem bhai please suggest. We need your valuable opinion. Thanks!
good buy in between 52-53
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on July 11, 2015, 10:11:06 PM
Yes nadeem bhai please suggest. We need your valuable opinion. Thanks!
good buy in between 52-53
walekum salam danish sahib hold treet till oct-15 don't sell in loss but decision is yours
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: naveed on July 12, 2015, 05:26:46 AM
Dear seniors,
i dont know much about PRL so plz dont mind me asking that why it issued right shares?? Is company facing financial issues or for some other reason??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: naveed on July 13, 2015, 08:25:02 AM
Dear seniors,
i dont know much about PRL so plz dont mind me asking that why it issued right shares?? Is company facing financial issues or for some other reason??
????????
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: drcampk on July 13, 2015, 11:58:31 AM
Brother, may be seniors busy .... wait
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: danishhussain93 on July 14, 2015, 10:04:05 AM
Thanks Naddem bhai for reply bs aap nay keh diya hold tu bs theek he main aap ko follow karta hn  :thanks: :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on July 14, 2015, 11:33:07 AM
Thanks Naddem bhai for reply bs aap nay keh diya hold tu bs theek he main aap ko follow karta hn  :thanks: :thanks:
:biggthumpup: Nadeem bhai ki prediction theek target pe. Great work nadeem bhai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on July 14, 2015, 02:06:36 PM
Thanks Naddem bhai for reply bs aap nay keh diya hold tu bs theek he main aap ko follow karta hn  :thanks: :thanks:
:biggthumpup: Nadeem bhai ki prediction theek target pe. Great work nadeem bhai
thanks all of them laoo prl first 60+
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on July 14, 2015, 02:09:55 PM
Thanks Naddem bhai for reply bs aap nay keh diya hold tu bs theek he main aap ko follow karta hn  :thanks: :thanks:
:biggthumpup: Nadeem bhai ki prediction theek target pe. Great work nadeem bhai
thanks all of them laoo prl first 60+
Sir first 60+ n  second ??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on July 14, 2015, 03:31:44 PM
Thanks Naddem bhai for reply bs aap nay keh diya hold tu bs theek he main aap ko follow karta hn  :thanks: :thanks:
:biggthumpup: Nadeem bhai ki prediction theek target pe. Great work nadeem bhai
thanks all of them laoo prl first 60+
Sir first 60+ n  second ??
inshaallah 75+ oct-15
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfankhan on July 14, 2015, 05:41:28 PM
Thanks Naddem bhai for reply bs aap nay keh diya hold tu bs theek he main aap ko follow karta hn  :thanks: :thanks:
:biggthumpup: Nadeem bhai ki prediction theek target pe. Great work nadeem bhai
thanks all of them laoo prl first 60+
Sir first 60+ n  second ??
inshaallah 75+ oct-15

 :biggthumpup: perfect Nadeem bhai.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: drcampk on July 25, 2015, 01:05:04 AM
Nadeem Bhai
Bhai kahan hein
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on July 25, 2015, 02:46:40 PM
Good to see share price close above 59.10 prl is not trading stock hold for at least oct-15 target price 70-75 subject to market conditions after the completion of isomerisation project next quarter earning is also very important
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tanu4u on July 25, 2015, 04:17:11 PM
bhi treet ki koi news
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on July 25, 2015, 08:10:16 PM
bhi treet ki koi news
short term treet 80-85
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Salammembers on July 25, 2015, 08:32:12 PM
When R shares r going to b credited ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on July 26, 2015, 02:42:22 PM
right shares have been credited
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Salammembers on July 26, 2015, 03:40:16 PM
right shares have been credited

 :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: danishhussain93 on July 27, 2015, 07:57:13 PM
nadeem bhai thanks for TP i have hold 10k  :thanks: :thanks: :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on July 28, 2015, 11:53:09 AM
Hold PR for one year............ INSHALLAH Triple shah ho ga
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on August 02, 2015, 04:12:19 PM
Two upper locks in artl and NRL last week now looks like good rally seen next week when share price of atrl and NRL reaches at peak then investors focus in prl
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on August 02, 2015, 04:29:37 PM
Two upper locks in artl and NRL last week now looks like good rally seen next week when share price of atrl and NRL reaches at peak then investors focus in prl

Result announcement of NRL & PRL in the mid of August should give some boost to PRL as well.

After seeing the 1st Quarter earnings of PRL which will come in October, people will realize that at current price it is cheap.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: buffet on August 02, 2015, 05:03:49 PM
Nadeem bhai kaha gayab hai. Koi acha scrip batayain
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on August 02, 2015, 07:48:59 PM
Really miss nadeem bhai. His presence and his calls are an asset for this forum.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfankhan on August 02, 2015, 08:13:07 PM
Really miss nadeem bhai. His presence and his calls are an asset for this forum.
Suba main leta hoon aur. phir dekhna chalay ga ye nahi
 :D  :tongue:  ;)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfankhan on August 02, 2015, 08:19:24 PM
Hold PR for one year............ INSHALLAH Triple shah ho ga

Bhai Jaan are you serious?
 :bigeyed: 
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on August 02, 2015, 09:10:50 PM
One big group of kse planning to buy buy prl next week when their buying complete share price increase sharply best for investment now
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on August 03, 2015, 11:29:56 AM
One big group of kse planning to buy buy prl next week when their buying complete share price increase sharply best for investment now

ismein aisa kia nikal giya hai ho price ooper hee jaegi sirf
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Omer The Researcher on August 03, 2015, 02:18:03 PM
atrl ka result acha aya tou  refinery ka upward trend set ho jana hai and vice versa :D
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Javed Khan on August 03, 2015, 05:00:00 PM
omer then first we have to see atrl result right ? Kindly guide
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: buffet on August 03, 2015, 08:04:25 PM
When is atrl result?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: ST on August 03, 2015, 10:00:36 PM
Still has good value left...Should join the refinery rally soon
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: usmanraza15 on August 04, 2015, 12:43:08 AM
Nadeem Bhai kindly guide, FFBL or PRL for short term???
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: farhan.AG on August 04, 2015, 01:01:30 AM
this will take time to run
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: danishhussain93 on August 04, 2015, 10:12:30 AM
Asalam-0-alikum nadeem bhai PRL to or nechay araha he, aap nay aik group enter honay ka bataya tha kia wo enter nahi ho raha in PRL??
Please reply :thanks: :thanks: :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: alishahid84 on August 04, 2015, 12:31:56 PM
Is it a good time to take entry in this scrip or can it go further down?

Seniors please advise!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on August 04, 2015, 01:10:11 PM
Is it a good time to take entry in this scrip or can it go further down?

Seniors please advise!

Best buy 53-55, INSHALLAH will get good return in till Nov
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: hasanali on August 04, 2015, 03:15:51 PM
sbm, please  guide about atrl  financial reserves  & alaso guide about  any extra odinary payout
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: buffet on August 04, 2015, 07:35:06 PM
Nadeem Bhai 60 se 55 Hogaya. Big member buying hee karaha hai na?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: m.omar on August 04, 2015, 09:18:44 PM
Sbm Bhai pls explain to us why refineries r doing so well this quarter and why low oil prices r good for their profitability and what r your recommendations on refineries currently
Tks
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on August 04, 2015, 11:06:06 PM
refining margins improving good upside left
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on August 06, 2015, 02:18:10 AM
Puri market up but prl not satisfying performance huhu huhu huhu
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on August 06, 2015, 02:36:50 AM
Puri market up but prl not satisfying performance huhu huhu huhu

Don't worry it will satisfy ur passion soon...............weak hearts out ho rehay hain.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: farhan.AG on August 06, 2015, 06:08:23 AM
IT WILL take too much much time to run......right now down...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: arehman on August 06, 2015, 09:47:38 AM
Puri market up but prl not satisfying performance huhu huhu huhu

Don't worry it will satisfy ur passion soon...............weak hearts out ho rehay hain.

Look at the past results. prl is pure satta. Fundamentally it is very weak.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on August 06, 2015, 10:29:49 AM
Puri market up but prl not satisfying performance huhu huhu huhu

Don't worry it will satisfy ur passion soon...............weak hearts out ho rehay hain.

Look at the past results. prl is pure satta. Fundamentally it is very weak.

peyaray Bhai ap na ghabrain...................a major trigger of completion of isomerization and DHDS projects will have significant impact on earnings and profitability of the company in coming Qtrs INSHALLAH.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on August 06, 2015, 01:15:17 PM
buy kar loo prl those who missed before

yet to perform in refining sector
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on August 06, 2015, 08:40:20 PM
KAL S UPER JANA CHAHIEY
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: mstabanipk on August 06, 2015, 10:21:27 PM
question
agar international market mein oil price down ho to kya refinery mein tezi ho sakti hay
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: mstabanipk on August 06, 2015, 10:26:03 PM
oil price down hone se refineries per effect parega
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on August 06, 2015, 11:43:46 PM
buy kar loo prl those who missed before

yet to perform in refining sector

(http://puu.sh/jrO5f/0cafc29767.png)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on August 07, 2015, 12:14:45 AM
Sbm Bhai pls explain to us why refineries r doing so well this quarter and why low oil prices r good for their profitability and what r your recommendations on refineries currently
Tks

because the price of their raw material (crude oil) has tanked while demand for their products is stable and hence margins has seen slight improvement. Because of the extremely low net margins initially, small upward movement in gross margins results in massive increase %age wise in netmargin
 
 
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on August 07, 2015, 01:28:38 AM
buy kar loo prl those who missed before

yet to perform in refining sector

(http://puu.sh/jrO5f/0cafc29767.png)
SBM bhai plz define the chart..
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on August 07, 2015, 11:35:14 AM
Aj volume acha h dekhte hn 2nd season m kia rehta hai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Javed Khan on August 07, 2015, 03:28:25 PM
whats wrong with this share  huhu
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Javed Khan on August 07, 2015, 04:36:39 PM
One big group of kse planning to buy buy prl next week when their buying complete share price increase sharply best for investment now

Next week big fund ll increase this share nadeeb sb ??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on August 07, 2015, 06:07:22 PM
buy kar loo prl those who missed before

yet to perform in refining sector

(http://puu.sh/jrO5f/0cafc29767.png)
SBM bhai plz define the chart..

chart is self explanatory
007 was saying PRL hasnt performed compared to other refineries...
I am trying to show that last 52 weeks performance of PRL is very good compared to other refineries, prl is not a laggard in fact it was the leader in the sector so its bound to slow down now
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: danishhussain93 on August 10, 2015, 11:25:46 AM
Nadeem bhai PRL ka batein please, its going on down side...  :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: alishahid84 on August 11, 2015, 10:35:49 AM
All refineries positive except for this bc script
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on August 11, 2015, 11:00:03 AM
All refineries positive except for this bc script

patience is the key.............tomorrow kafi idea ho jaye ga NRL or ATRL kay result say
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on August 11, 2015, 11:32:44 AM
All refineries positive except for this bc script

patience is the key.............tomorrow kafi idea ho jaye ga NRL or ATRL kay result say

ali Bhai khus ho jao Gari chal peri
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on August 11, 2015, 11:34:24 AM
laaooo PRL :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on August 11, 2015, 11:35:09 AM
Bhai cap kero jeldi say
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on August 11, 2015, 11:35:24 AM
UL laaooo 63 :dance :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Avi2013 on August 11, 2015, 01:36:22 PM
i hope ab yeh 60-62 to zaroor hit karey
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: shafi on August 11, 2015, 01:42:02 PM
got an entry at avg of 55  ::) hope its gonna recover my losses of AHCL  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: shafi on August 14, 2015, 07:30:30 PM
seniors any comments on this, long term impact
 http://www.prl.com.pk/isomcommissioned/2015.php
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: kahaf on August 14, 2015, 07:57:01 PM
good work will see prl in next few weeks and in share price
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: farhan.AG on August 15, 2015, 02:06:54 AM
after 800% rights in market.Too much shares in market it will run after new year.right now after announcement it will go below 50.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfankhan on August 15, 2015, 04:07:27 AM
after 800% rights in market.Too much shares in market it will run after new year.right now after announcement it will go below 50.

From your posts, this is confirm that you feel market going down in near future.

Please advise your study on this shares, because we have seen Nadeem bhai's study is most of the time correct.

You seem new in the forum, but let us know how you feel rates going down for PRL other then 800% right issuance because this does not guarantee rates to go down.

Thanks


Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: naumaan on August 16, 2015, 07:49:48 PM
One big group of kse planning to buy buy prl next week when their buying complete share price increase sharply best for investment now

Salaam Nadeem bhai, iss group kee buying kabh takk chalti rahey gee ... jabh sey iss group ney buying shrou kee hai ... down hee down  :skeptic:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on August 16, 2015, 08:47:09 PM
One big group of kse planning to buy buy prl next week when their buying complete share price increase sharply best for investment now
crude oil 50 se 42 ho gay he 32

Salaam Nadeem bhai, iss group kee buying kabh takk chalti rahey gee ... jabh sey iss group ney buying shrou kee hai ... down hee down  :skeptic:
crude oil 50 se 42 ho gy he 32 ki awaz he is ly ruk kar buying ho rahe he
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on August 17, 2015, 12:35:21 PM
If result is bad, we will see it around 45-48
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on August 17, 2015, 12:46:08 PM
One more thing I want to mention bear some losses few K in PRL, but happy for the time being to sold out all and convert to some GGL and some PIBTL. Lets see what comes out from these two
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: alishahid84 on August 17, 2015, 01:17:22 PM
One more thing I want to mention bear some losses few K in PRL, but happy for the time being to sold out all and convert to some GGL and some PIBTL. Lets see what comes out from these two

Ab Tripple shah nahe ho ga?  ;)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfankhan on August 17, 2015, 01:27:58 PM
One more thing I want to mention bear some losses few K in PRL, but happy for the time being to sold out all and convert to some GGL and some PIBTL. Lets see what comes out from these two

Ab Tripple shah nahe ho ga?  ;)

Of course ab lotto Bhai ne bech dya hai ab half shah hoga
 :tongue:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Junaid on August 18, 2015, 11:31:54 PM
PRL Time  :tongue:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on August 18, 2015, 11:59:27 PM
One more thing I want to mention bear some losses few K in PRL, but happy for the time being to sold out all and convert to some GGL and some PIBTL. Lets see what comes out from these two

Ab Tripple shah nahe ho ga?  ;)

INSHALLAH ho ga but not soon will take 1 year as in my previous post it was mentioned
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SONA on August 19, 2015, 07:54:16 AM
One more thing I want to mention bear some losses few K in PRL, but happy for the time being to sold out all and convert to some GGL and some PIBTL. Lets see what comes out from these two
Loto bhai jb ap ny PRL sale ker k PIBTL lya tha ap uswkt hmain bhe bta daity hm bhe apke trah PRL sale ker k PIBTL buy ker k Phot laity
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on August 19, 2015, 09:58:12 AM
One more thing I want to mention bear some losses few K in PRL, but happy for the time being to sold out all and convert to some GGL and some PIBTL. Lets see what comes out from these two
Loto bhai jb ap ny PRL sale ker k PIBTL lya tha ap uswkt hmain bhe bta daity hm bhe apke trah PRL sale ker k PIBTL buy ker k Phot laity

Bhai jis din kia tha usi din post ki thi
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on August 19, 2015, 06:29:26 PM
after 800% rights in market.Too much shares in market it will run after new year.right now after announcement it will go below 50.

As per Financial Management theoretical knowledge you are saying absolutely right.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on August 20, 2015, 02:43:00 PM
From 45 I will start buying PRL for TP of 75 by the end of OCT 2015. :rtfm:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: abzz reborn on August 20, 2015, 09:33:29 PM
One big group of kse planning to buy buy prl next week when their buying complete share price increase sharply best for investment now
crude oil 50 se 42 ho gay he 32

Salaam Nadeem bhai, iss group kee buying kabh takk chalti rahey gee ... jabh sey iss group ney buying shrou kee hai ... down hee down  :skeptic:
crude oil 50 se 42 ho gy he 32 ki awaz he is ly ruk kar buying ho rahe he

Sir nadeem !!! kis rate per buying start kerni chaye PRL ki??? any suggestions please

or PRL ka result kub tak expected hai??? result k baad b down janay k chances hain kia??
 
please guide!!!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on August 21, 2015, 05:02:44 PM
From 45 I will start buying PRL for TP of 75 by the end of OCT 2015. :rtfm:
Finally near my target purchase price. :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: alishahid84 on August 22, 2015, 05:56:05 AM
Seniors members should at least provide some updates and not disappear after giving BUY calls... the stock has fallen over 20%!





Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: farhan.AG on August 22, 2015, 07:13:56 AM
buying e 38 target 58.oil going down down ...imported oil price in downward position NEWS refineriney operation will be shut down for a couple of months .govt is impoting oil in very cheap price and. getting discounts thread of 30$ / barrel.....
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on August 22, 2015, 07:04:50 PM
buying banti h current price p for the target 60
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: 007 on August 23, 2015, 06:11:11 PM
oil going down impact on refineries will improve margins
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: jaz on August 23, 2015, 08:54:36 PM
oil going down impact on refineries will improve margins
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/energy-prices-crashing-then-refiners-100000197.html
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on August 23, 2015, 09:29:39 PM
oil going down impact on refineries will improve margins
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/energy-prices-crashing-then-refiners-100000197.html

its temporary i think
as per opec report, refinery margins in august have come down in asia
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: jaz on August 23, 2015, 11:22:28 PM
oil going down impact on refineries will improve margins
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/energy-prices-crashing-then-refiners-100000197.html

its temporary i think
as per opec report, refinery margins in august have come down in asia
Domestic oil prices have remained unchanged so far in this qtr and first price cut is expected in Sep. Would be surprised if refiners don't show profits for ongoing qtr
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sst569 on August 27, 2015, 02:05:11 AM
Hi gurues, what is chance of PRL going below 40? Should average what was bought at 55 at this stage or wait for further dip?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on August 27, 2015, 07:55:02 AM
oil going down impact on refineries will improve margins
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/energy-prices-crashing-then-refiners-100000197.html

its temporary i think
as per opec report, refinery margins in august have come down in asia
Domestic oil prices have remained unchanged so far in this qtr and first price cut is expected in Sep. Would be surprised if refiners don't show profits for ongoing qtr

i dont think it works that way
domestic prices include taxes etc and gov adjusts them to bring the fuel price to whatever it wants to be
refineries actually  have to match the price of imports by pso & asian margins are low it means pso is getting its fuel cheaper and domestic refineries margins are also effected
i think .
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: jaz on August 27, 2015, 09:13:19 AM
oil going down impact on refineries will improve margins
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/energy-prices-crashing-then-refiners-100000197.html

its temporary i think
as per opec report, refinery margins in august have come down in asia
Domestic oil prices have remained unchanged so far in this qtr and first price cut is expected in Sep. Would be surprised if refiners don't show profits for ongoing qtr

i dont think it works that way
domestic prices include taxes etc and gov adjusts them to bring the fuel price to whatever it wants to be
refineries actually  have to match the price of imports by pso & asian margins are low it means pso is getting its fuel cheaper and domestic refineries margins are also effected
i think .
Yes refining margins is a complex phenomenon to understand and we get to know them only with financial results. But in India, ISO reported refining margins of 11.4% for last qtr and those of reliance were in excess of 12%. Even if these have taken a hit, it is well reflected in stock prices which have tanked by almost 25%
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sst569 on August 28, 2015, 01:55:32 PM
When is board meeting , did they anounce yet?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Afzal on August 28, 2015, 03:49:39 PM
Can any one please confirm regarding Shriah Complaint status of PRL?

in latest list updated on KSE website on May 2015...PRL is not  mentioned

however few forumns are saying its still in Shriah COmpliant

 :confused1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ayub on August 28, 2015, 04:01:45 PM
Can any one please confirm regarding Shriah Complaint status of PRL?

in latest list updated on KSE website on May 2015...PRL is not  mentioned

however few forumns are saying its still in Shriah COmpliant

 :confused1:

http://www.pakinvestorsguide.com/index.php/topic,702.msg209543.html#msg209543
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on August 28, 2015, 07:16:43 PM
Can any one please confirm regarding Shriah Complaint status of PRL?

in latest list updated on KSE website on May 2015...PRL is not  mentioned

however few forumns are saying its still in Shriah COmpliant

 :confused1:

http://www.pakinvestorsguide.com/index.php/topic,702.msg209543.html#msg209543

bhai how can a company with negative equity ever be sharia compliant according to the guidelines issued by meezan ?
negative equity means being finance wholly by debt  :s1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Afzal on August 31, 2015, 02:46:03 PM
SBM bro

thanks a lot for  guidance my mind clear

can u pls guide  about GATM as well on these lines? is it shriah or not?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sst569 on September 02, 2015, 02:11:52 AM
Can anyone tell about payout history of PRL? how are their payout ratios in the days of profits?

I hope it will post 2.5-4 eps in first quarter of 2015-2016.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Dhillon on September 08, 2015, 03:02:48 PM
Sep 14 BM


http://www.kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?0.08896420430392027&id=4&nid=069066
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on September 08, 2015, 03:18:16 PM
UL laaooo :clap1: :shoaby: :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sst569 on September 09, 2015, 12:38:04 AM
BM tak kahan tak ja sakta, whre should exit?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: aabugvi on September 12, 2015, 07:26:29 AM
BM tak kahan tak ja sakta, whre should exit?

Up 60
Down 35
Bhi dekha sakta ha.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on September 14, 2015, 04:46:46 PM
http://www.kse.com.pk/newsimage/69290-1.pdf

q4 gross profit was more than  a  billion rupees, wonder how much of that is from isom unit
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on September 14, 2015, 05:59:00 PM
http://www.kse.com.pk/newsimage/69290-1.pdf

q4 gross profit was more than  a  billion rupees, wonder how much of that is from isom unit

Interesting!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: jawed on September 14, 2015, 06:27:58 PM
Snrs. Ab kahan tak jasakta ha.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on September 14, 2015, 07:58:51 PM
http://www.kse.com.pk/newsimage/69290-1.pdf

q4 gross profit was more than  a  billion rupees, wonder how much of that is from isom unit

Almost Rs. 60/share eps in last two quarters (based on pre-rights paid up capital). If the performance continues going forward, esp. 1quarter 2016 the stock may rally upwards
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on September 14, 2015, 08:50:45 PM
http://www.kse.com.pk/newsimage/69290-1.pdf

q4 gross profit was more than  a  billion rupees, wonder how much of that is from isom unit

None of it is from isom unit. That project was only completed on 26.06.2015 and started production from 1st Quarter. Impact of that will come in 1st Quarter results. This result was very much expected considering high GRMs in last Quarter.

Its a good share to hold for long term.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on September 14, 2015, 09:14:44 PM
http://www.kse.com.pk/newsimage/69290-1.pdf

q4 gross profit was more than  a  billion rupees, wonder how much of that is from isom unit

None of it is from isom unit. That project was only completed on 26.06.2015 and started production from 1st Quarter. Impact of that will come in 1st Quarter results. This result was very much expected considering high GRMs in last Quarter.

Its a good share to hold for long term.
ab ye kahan p trade karega short term koi improvement ayegi?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on September 14, 2015, 10:57:12 PM
http://www.kse.com.pk/newsimage/69290-1.pdf

q4 gross profit was more than  a  billion rupees, wonder how much of that is from isom unit

None of it is from isom unit. That project was only completed on 26.06.2015 and started production from 1st Quarter. Impact of that will come in 1st Quarter results. This result was very much expected considering high GRMs in last Quarter.

Its a good share to hold for long term.

thnks for the update  :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfankhan on September 16, 2015, 01:23:33 PM
Yes nadeem bhai please suggest. We need your valuable opinion. Thanks!
good buy in between 52-53

Where is Nadeembhai.


Brother see this share shares
Your to oct 2015 was 75 and
In sept 2015 it is 42 from 60

Any comment ??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: naveed on September 16, 2015, 03:47:44 PM
Is k girny ki aakhir wajah kia hy??? Why it is not holding back
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sst569 on September 16, 2015, 05:31:10 PM
Is k girny ki aakhir wajah kia hy??? Why it is not holding back

Ist quarter result would be positive, hold! Its not time to sell.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: naveed on September 16, 2015, 07:41:18 PM
Aur nadeem sahab ki sep 15 ki tp 75 ka kia hua????
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adnan on September 16, 2015, 08:23:05 PM
Aur nadeem sahab ki sep 15 ki tp 75 ka kia hua????

Bro this is stock market and sometimes things do not work out according to your estimates or take longer time than your estimated time to achieve that target. Patience is the key and those who keep it succeed in the end.

PRL is the turnaround story and if you can hold it, it will give you very good reward. It will test your nerves and already did that. But if you keep patience, you won't lose.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on September 16, 2015, 08:43:22 PM
Bhai, time time ki bat hai. Abi sab largest oil refinery of Pakistan per focus ker rahe hain. Good luck largest oil refinery of Pakistan. 
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on September 16, 2015, 09:46:26 PM
Hm tou hold p hn 60 p nah becha tou 40 p ku bechun ab q1 ka result dekhna h jo k next month h  ager positive eos show krdi tou rally banaiega ye buying time h umeed achi hai :thumbsup
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: jammykhan on September 16, 2015, 09:52:13 PM
Bhai, time time ki bat hai. Abi sab largest oil refinery of Pakistan per focus ker rahe hain. Good luck largest oil refinery of Pakistan.
great
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: aliraza on September 17, 2015, 07:57:50 AM



http://www.zemtv.com/2015/09/16/benaqaab-16th-september-2015/
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: naveed on September 18, 2015, 03:25:27 PM
30 pe aaey to bora bhar k liye jaey. No offence to holders
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on September 18, 2015, 07:04:20 PM
Due to market pressure can further come down.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Arif Nadeem on September 18, 2015, 07:23:12 PM
Due to market pressure can further come down.
Mutual fund managers historically do the same.They were doing the same few months back.in my humble opinion,they have their personal interests.No need to worry.Market will rebound sooner.They will buy same items at higher prices.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: naveed on September 21, 2015, 01:20:05 AM
Kia ye 35 yak ja sakta hy????
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: naveed on September 21, 2015, 04:50:23 PM
Kia ye 35 yak ja sakta hy????
bohat strength show ker raha hy is mandi may
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: danishhussain93 on October 03, 2015, 01:58:48 PM
yar ye kab Increase hoga :(
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 03, 2015, 08:47:12 PM
yar ye kab Increase hoga :(

Jab oil price main stability ho gi
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on October 03, 2015, 08:47:58 PM
yar ye kab Increase hoga :(
Depnd on 1st Q result
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Loto or Photo on October 03, 2015, 08:58:01 PM
yar ye kab Increase hoga :(
Depnd on 1st Q result

1st Qtr result acha nahi ho ga due to inventory losses.............price came down from 60 to 40-45/b
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on October 03, 2015, 09:07:55 PM
But it will be the first quarter after Isomerization. :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Salammembers on October 04, 2015, 12:11:15 AM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-02/oil-bulls-lose-faith-in-recovery-as-russia-adds-to-global-glut
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on October 04, 2015, 12:57:34 PM
Ishallah it will post 1stQ EPS in positive
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sst569 on October 04, 2015, 09:48:28 PM
yar ye kab Increase hoga :(
Depnd on 1st Q result

1st Qtr result acha nahi ho ga due to inventory losses.............price came down from 60 to 40-45/b

In my view no inventory losses this time, since prices in Pakistan were higher than international market and refineries already pay the difference to government.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on October 04, 2015, 10:57:01 PM
yar ye kab Increase hoga :(
Depnd on 1st Q result

1st Qtr result acha nahi ho ga due to inventory losses.............price came down from 60 to 40-45/b

In my view no inventory losses this time, since prices in Pakistan were higher than international market and refineries already pay the difference to government.

No not like that Ex refinery prices are lower Gov't was the beneficiary coz of increase in tax Refineries n OMC's were the loosers
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sst569 on October 05, 2015, 01:48:11 AM
yar ye kab Increase hoga :(
Depnd on 1st Q result

1st Qtr result acha nahi ho ga due to inventory losses.............price came down from 60 to 40-45/b

In my view no inventory losses this time, since prices in Pakistan were higher than international market and refineries already pay the difference to government.

No not like that Ex refinery prices are lower Gov't was the beneficiary coz of increase in tax Refineries n OMC's were the loosers

Well, ex-refinery price is the price of getting the same products from international market. Now whatever the difference in international price and local price in pakistan was going into governments pocket. Now if the government reduce the local prices it does not change the ex- refinery prices. It only reduces the difference of international price and local price which goes to government pocket. I think its clarifies the point.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: danishhussain93 on October 05, 2015, 12:17:03 PM
yr is kay project ka kia hoa jis ki waja sy is kay price incease honay thay???
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sst569 on October 05, 2015, 08:47:16 PM
yr is kay project ka kia hoa jis ki waja sy is kay price incease honay thay???

Isomerization plant started working by start of first quarter and would contribute to profitibility. I hope first quarter result should be positive.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: naveed on October 05, 2015, 08:49:43 PM
yr is kay project ka kia hoa jis ki waja sy is kay price incease honay thay???

Isomerization plant started working by start of first quarter and would contribute to profitibility. I hope first quarter result should be positive.
very true and this will significantly increase profits and capacity
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sst569 on October 05, 2015, 09:16:22 PM
yr is kay project ka kia hoa jis ki waja sy is kay price incease honay thay???

Isomerization plant started working by start of first quarter and would contribute to profitibility. I hope first quarter result should be positive.
very true and this will significantly increase profits and capacity

Isomerization plant doubles the petrol production capacity.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on October 05, 2015, 11:52:34 PM
yr is kay project ka kia hoa jis ki waja sy is kay price incease honay thay???

Isomerization plant started working by start of first quarter and would contribute to profitibility. I hope first quarter result should be positive.
very true and this will significantly increase profits and capacity

Isomerization plant doubles the petrol production capacity.

how much will be the financial and depreciation charges for this project ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Dhillon on October 06, 2015, 11:42:37 AM
http://www.prl.com.pk/downloads/annualreport2015.pdf
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on October 06, 2015, 01:58:20 PM
http://www.prl.com.pk/downloads/annualreport2015.pdf

thye will need a major rights issue ... 15 billion rupees at least to finance DHDS project
bhartay raho paisay
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on October 07, 2015, 07:30:08 PM
Aj acha volume raha kal kia hota hai :clap1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: danishhussain93 on October 13, 2015, 02:29:51 PM
SBM bhai kb uppar jaye ga.... :(
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tariqdbest on October 13, 2015, 03:36:01 PM
SBM bhai kb uppar jaye ga.... :(

SBM bhai hum sab kay pyaray aur har dil aziz hain... unko kyon upper bhej rahay ho danish bhai :dunno:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on October 13, 2015, 03:39:09 PM
SBM bhai kb uppar jaye ga.... :(

SBM bhai hum sab kay pyaray aur har dil aziz hain... unko kyon upper bhej rahay ho danish bhai :dunno:
:D :D
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on October 13, 2015, 03:44:27 PM
SBM bhai kb uppar jaye ga.... :(

SBM bhai hum sab kay pyaray aur har dil aziz hain... unko kyon upper bhej rahay ho danish bhai :dunno:

 :laugh:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: ValueInvestor on October 13, 2015, 05:23:29 PM
SBM bhai kb uppar jaye ga.... :(

What kind of remark is this? Disgusting.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: valor123 on October 13, 2015, 05:34:20 PM
SBM bhai kb uppar jaye ga.... :(

What kind of remark is this? Disgusting.
He just sought SBM brothers expert advice by asking when PRL share will gain a bit and improve... nothing special in it, its PRL discussion going on here...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on October 13, 2015, 09:36:43 PM
SBM bhai kb uppar jaye ga.... :(

 :console:
q1 result ka itezaar karlein, shayad isom unit ki wajah say behtar result ajae
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: danishhussain93 on October 14, 2015, 06:45:33 PM
Kab result aye ga Q1 ka???? SBM bhai :( :(
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: hammad01 on October 14, 2015, 07:44:10 PM
http://www.prl.com.pk/downloads/annualreport2015.pdf

thye will need a major rights issue ... 15 billion rupees at least to finance DHDS project
bhartay raho paisay
SBM bro what percentage of rights and in which quarter you expect?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on October 14, 2015, 10:22:14 PM
http://www.prl.com.pk/downloads/annualreport2015.pdf

thye will need a major rights issue ... 15 billion rupees at least to finance DHDS project
bhartay raho paisay
SBM bro what percentage of rights and in which quarter you expect?

400% at par .. they will announce when they have finalized DHDS project details
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: saleem7821 on October 14, 2015, 11:45:10 PM
When this bloody hell will move. Badly stuck
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sst569 on October 16, 2015, 12:40:27 AM
I expect eps 2-4 Rs. What do you say.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on October 16, 2015, 12:42:58 AM
I expect eps 2-4 Rs. What do you say.
Aj NRL and ATRL ka positive result aya hai IA ye b positive hoga 50 plus before result lagta hai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sst569 on October 16, 2015, 12:47:23 AM
I expect eps 2-4 Rs. What do you say.
Aj NRL and ATRL ka positive result aya hai IA ye b positive hoga 50 plus before result lagta hai

Yes should go 50 before result. If result 3-4 then should achieve 70-80 easily. 4+ for 90-100.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on October 16, 2015, 01:05:10 AM
I expect eps 2-4 Rs. What do you say.
Aj NRL and ATRL ka positive result aya hai IA ye b positive hoga 50 plus before result lagta hai

atrl incurred a loss from its refinery operations
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: naveed on October 16, 2015, 01:09:58 AM
I expect eps 2-4 Rs. What do you say.
Aj NRL and ATRL ka positive result aya hai IA ye b positive hoga 50 plus before result lagta hai

atrl incurred a loss from its refinery operations
to phir iss ka kia banay ga SBM bhai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on October 16, 2015, 06:31:58 AM
If eps 1 to 1.5 it should touch 50
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on October 16, 2015, 03:33:09 PM
Locked laaaoooo :clap1: :clap1: :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: masood15 on October 16, 2015, 04:21:43 PM
KAHA THAA CAP KA  AB TO LA9OO MALL HAYY   :shoaby:  :shoaby:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: abzz reborn on October 21, 2015, 09:52:17 PM
any update regarding result!!! :skeptic:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on October 22, 2015, 01:01:43 PM
http://kse.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?0.8988564903847873&id=4&nid=071772

LPS 2.28
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Junaid on October 24, 2015, 12:02:57 PM
Is result k baad ab PRL or kitna nichay aa sakta hai? seniors plz guide
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on October 24, 2015, 02:01:49 PM
nECHE NAH SLOW SLOW UP HOGA
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Tariq Ahmed on October 24, 2015, 06:16:02 PM
40-50 ki range mein he rahega filhal ye ;)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Dhillon on October 31, 2015, 08:38:09 AM
1)
The year 2015-16 began positively for the Company as the Isomerisation Plant, which was commissioned in June 2015, became fully operational in the current quarter and resulted in increased production of Motor Gasoline. However, the negative volatility in international oil prices and value of Pak Rupee against US Dollar resulted in inventory and exchange losses and the Company suffered a loss after taxation of Rs. 648 million in the current quarter as compared to a loss after taxation of Rs. 1,457 million in the corresponding quarter last year
2)
The  pricing mechanism of High Speed Diesel (HSD) whereby the refineries are required to deposit into Government Treasury
the difference between actual import price and notional ex-refinery price computed in accordance with the Import Parity Pricing Formula. This alone has resulted in loss of revenue of Rs. 588 million in the quarter.
3)

The Company is now looking forward to installation of Diesel Hydrodesulphurisation Unit (DHDS) in compliance with the directives
of the Government of Pakistan which requires the Company to produce EURO II specification diesel by December 31, 2015. The Company is working closely with technical and investment advisors and evaluating different technological and financial options to meet the above
requirement. In view of the longer time involved in setting up a DHDS unit, the Company along with other refineries has engaged the relevant government authorities to extend the deadline of setting up DHDS units.

http://www.prl.com.pk/downloads/1stqtr2015.pdf
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: leraningtheropes on November 03, 2015, 12:03:22 PM
Salaam guys,

Any guidance on us newbies for PRL? Should be accumalate at this point?

Any light you guys can shed on PRL?

Thanks!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: tariqdbest on November 04, 2015, 09:38:38 AM
Salaam guys,

Any guidance on us newbies for PRL? Should be accumalate at this point?

Any light you guys can shed on PRL?

Thanks!

Buy near 40 and sell near 50 after year end result.... if you can hold for a year or more it can easily touch 70 and further.....!!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on November 04, 2015, 02:35:01 PM
Any one have news about PRL buy PSO or its just rumors????
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on November 04, 2015, 02:50:50 PM
Any one have news about PRL buy PSO or its just rumors????
Sorry PSO buy PRL plz confm this news??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on November 04, 2015, 02:55:57 PM
Any one have news about PRL buy PSO or its just rumors????

how can prl buy pso ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on November 04, 2015, 03:01:41 PM
Any one have news about PRL buy PSO or its just rumors????

how can prl buy pso ?
Pso buy Prl sir bs ek bande n bola hai wo kam keta hai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on November 04, 2015, 03:28:20 PM
Any one have news about PRL buy PSO or its just rumors????

how can prl buy pso ?
Pso buy Prl sir bs ek bande n bola hai wo kam keta hai

pso already owned a part of prl and subscribed their share of PRL's right issue earlier this year
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on November 04, 2015, 03:38:10 PM
abi 22% hold hai.. its buyng shell shares.. to become major share holder 57%
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on November 05, 2015, 01:32:48 PM
Larta hai sb n sell krdia hai iss forum pr aj lock or ko kusshiii hiii nah :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfankhan on November 06, 2015, 02:45:18 AM
Larta hai sb n sell krdia hai iss forum pr aj lock or ko kusshiii hiii nah :dance :dance :dance
Not sold yet.
7% of my portfolio. average 50
filhal phansay huay hain but bought for 1 year plus aur abhi 4 month hay hain
8 months baqi hain. lagta hai nuqsaan nahi hoga InshaAllah.
 :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on November 06, 2015, 09:27:37 AM
Larta hai sb n sell krdia hai iss forum pr aj lock or ko kusshiii hiii nah :dance :dance :dance
Not sold yet.
7% of my portfolio. average 50
filhal phansay huay hain but bought for 1 year plus aur abhi 4 month hay hain
8 months baqi hain. lagta hai nuqsaan nahi hoga InshaAllah.
 :fingerscrossed1:
Laaao aj b cap :clap1: :clap1: :dance :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: drcampk on November 06, 2015, 11:10:05 AM
Cheeta bhai
Why PRL capped for 2nd day?
Any rumors or news?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Zamid on November 06, 2015, 11:17:55 AM
Cheeta bhai
Why PRL capped for 2nd day?
Any rumors or news?

News in market that PSO going to acquire 26% stake of PRL..... Personally i haven't seen any notification or source.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: shanzay on November 06, 2015, 11:42:45 AM
pso official said reuter
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on November 06, 2015, 01:29:24 PM
Cheeta bhai
Why PRL capped for 2nd day?
Any rumors or news?
PSO currently holds 22.5 percent of the refinery and is finalising details of a deal to take another 26 percent within this fiscal year, a PSO official said.
Aur suna hai  PM  Nawaz Sharif b survey kr rahe hn company ka
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on November 09, 2015, 11:20:42 AM
Looking very strong
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Junaid on November 10, 2015, 11:17:43 AM
 :clap1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on November 10, 2015, 01:03:46 PM
Looking good ..kahan tak ja sakta hai...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Market Wave on November 10, 2015, 10:52:19 PM
Date: 14th October, 2015

Pakistan State Oil holds its 39th Annual General Meeting

Karachi ? 14th October, 2015: Pakistan Pakistan State Oil Company Limited, the oil market leader in Pakistan, held its 39th Annual General Meeting (AGM) at a local hotel in Karachi. The meeting was chaired by Mr. Sheikh Imran UlHaque, Managing Director and CEO of PSO. Present at the meeting were Mr. YacoobSuttar, CFO; Ms. Ayesha Afzal, Company Secretary and other members of the PSO senior management.

While summarizing the company's performance in FY 2015, Mr. Sheikh Imran UlHaque shed light on the challenges faced by the Company and how its profitability was adversely affected by the sharp decline of 46% in the OPEC basket price of crude oil from USD 109 per barrel in July 2014 to USD 59 per barrel in June 2015. He also gave the shareholders a brief overview of Pakistan's economic indicators in FY15 as well as the petroleum consumption pattern in the country, PSO's product-wise market share and the competitive landscape of the oil market.

Speaking at the occasion, Mr. Sheikh Imran UlHaque said that PSO is an iconic institution of Pakistan and the number of people we touch every day is extraordinary. He also said that by utilizing its well-established storage and supply infrastructure and wide-spread retail network, PSO has ensured that the wheels of the nation's economy continue to move forward.Sharing the way forward for the company, MD PSO said that PSO is striving to ensure ethical and transparent operations in all spheres of its business;retain market leadership in all key products; undertake diversification into alternate fuels like Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) and integration into refining business through acquisition of additional stake in Pakistan Refinery Limited.

During the course of the AGM, the shareholders approved the company's financial statements along with a final cash dividend of Rs. 4 per share (equivalent to 40%) in addition to the earlier interim cash dividends of Rs. 6 per share (equivalent to 60%). The total cash dividend for FY15 stood at Rs. 10 per share in comparison to a dividend of Rs. 8 per share in FY14.

While appreciating the efforts of the company's management the shareholders expressed concerns over the rising circular debt of the company as well as the absence of a Board of Management of the company. Concluding the meeting, Mr. Sheikh Imran UlHaquethanked the shareholders for attending the AGM and expressed gratitude for their valuable guidance to the company. Acknowledging the value of points raised and suggestions made by the shareholders, the PSO management assured the shareholders that the company will follow the best corporate practices to maximize returns for all stakeholders including the shareholders and the country.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 11, 2015, 12:07:34 PM
Looking good ..kahan tak ja sakta hai...
60 tou kero
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on November 11, 2015, 12:16:36 PM
50 tou ker lea, good push by PSO.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 11, 2015, 06:13:48 PM
PRL is laao maal
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: U.Khan on November 11, 2015, 06:34:17 PM
PRL is laao maal

Sabir bhai ktna laoo maal? Kia tp he short term ?  :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on November 11, 2015, 06:44:11 PM
PRL is laao maal

Sabir bhai ktna laoo maal? Kia tp he short term ?  :thanks:
I.A pehle 53 ,60, if PSO increase its holdings in prl thn 70 b laaooo bhaeee :clap1: :shoaby: :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 16, 2015, 09:20:27 PM
PRL is looking v good
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on November 16, 2015, 09:31:48 PM
PRL is looking v good

There are rumours of pso buying shells stake in prl? Any one having any info/news may please share...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on November 17, 2015, 10:10:18 AM
PRL is looking v good

There are rumours of pso buying shells stake in prl? Any one having any info/news may please share...
Yes pso buying shell's stake to make major stake holder  in prl,I thnk pso meetnig in near future to finalize the matters :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 17, 2015, 10:20:47 AM
PRL is looking v good
khappay....
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 17, 2015, 01:53:26 PM
PRL is looking v good
khappay....
;) :shoaby: :good :fingerscrossed1: :fingerscrossed1: :biggthumpup: :thumbsup_anim: :dance :clap1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 17, 2015, 03:37:25 PM
PRL is laao maal

Sabir bhai ktna laoo maal? Kia tp he short term ?  :thanks:
I.A pehle 53 ,60, if PSO increase its holdings in prl thn 70 b laaooo bhaeee :clap1: :shoaby: :dance
good closing :thanks: :biggthumpup:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 18, 2015, 09:54:03 AM
capped M.A
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on November 18, 2015, 10:04:51 AM
capped M.A
Laaaooo cap o cap 60>>>>>> :thumbsup_anim: :shoaby: :clap1: :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 18, 2015, 10:56:43 AM
khappay
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 18, 2015, 03:38:19 PM
nice closing M.A
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: aabugvi on November 19, 2015, 07:53:37 AM
Aaj agar resistance na aye cap raha  tu inshaAllah 58.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 19, 2015, 09:45:13 AM
50 tou ker lea, good push by PSO.
sooooooooooooper khappay :shoaby:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on November 19, 2015, 09:53:55 AM
Ab tu century ki bat kerian, which one hit Ist.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 19, 2015, 10:07:30 AM
Ab tu century ki bat kerian, which one hit Ist.
:o
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: waseemalisyed on November 19, 2015, 10:31:41 AM
sabir bhai PRL main entry banti ha abhi
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 19, 2015, 10:33:37 AM
sabir bhai PRL main entry banti ha abhi
buy on dip :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on November 19, 2015, 10:39:41 AM
sabir bhai PRL main entry banti ha abhi
Sabir I bought today 65000 shares with TP of 70 in 3 months.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 19, 2015, 10:45:23 AM
sabir bhai PRL main entry banti ha abhi
Sabir I bought today 65000 shares with TP of 70 in 3 months.
47-49 buy achi thee....
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on November 19, 2015, 10:53:25 AM
sabir bhai PRL main entry banti ha abhi
Sabir I bought today 65000 shares with TP of 70 in 3 months.
47-49 buy achi thee....
Lakin sir us per to lock tha order place kia hoa tha lakin mila he nahi.
Aaj he lock open hoa aaj he mil gya. Ab aagy apna Naseeb hy. Allah Paak Karam karay ga.
Thanks for tip sabir.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on November 19, 2015, 01:23:44 PM
sabir bhai PRL main entry banti ha abhi
Sabir I bought today 65000 shares with TP of 70 in 3 months.
47-49 buy achi thee....
Lakin sir us per to lock tha order place kia hoa tha lakin mila he nahi.
Aaj he lock open hoa aaj he mil gya. Ab aagy apna Naseeb hy. Allah Paak Karam karay ga.
Thanks for tip sabir.
Hope  hai dayhi jaiega aj closing achi hojaie...  :dance :shoaby: :clap1: news agai tou 70 laaoo hojaiga
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on November 20, 2015, 02:39:03 PM
sabir bhai PRL main entry banti ha abhi
Sabir I bought today 65000 shares with TP of 70 in 3 months.
47-49 buy achi thee....
Lakin sir us per to lock tha order place kia hoa tha lakin mila he nahi.
Aaj he lock open hoa aaj he mil gya. Ab aagy apna Naseeb hy. Allah Paak Karam karay ga.
Thanks for tip sabir.
Hope  hai dayhi jaiega aj closing achi hojaie...  :dance :shoaby: :clap1: news agai tou 70 laaoo hojaiga
Cheeta news aai k nahi??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on November 20, 2015, 02:43:39 PM
NAh umeed hai jald ajaigi
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 20, 2015, 03:15:17 PM
sabir bhai PRL main entry banti ha abhi
Sabir I bought today 65000 shares with TP of 70 in 3 months.
47-49 buy achi thee....
buy on dip :console:
Lakin sir us per to lock tha order place kia hoa tha lakin mila he nahi.
Aaj he lock open hoa aaj he mil gya. Ab aagy apna Naseeb hy. Allah Paak Karam karay ga.
Thanks for tip sabir.
Hope  hai dayhi jaiega aj closing achi hojaie...  :dance :shoaby: :clap1: news agai tou 70 laaoo hojaiga
Cheeta news aai k nahi??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: mykn on November 21, 2015, 12:31:22 PM
sabir bhai PRL main entry banti ha abhi
Sabir I bought today 65000 shares with TP of 70 in 3 months.
47-49 buy achi thee....
buy on dip :console:
Lakin sir us per to lock tha order place kia hoa tha lakin mila he nahi.
Aaj he lock open hoa aaj he mil gya. Ab aagy apna Naseeb hy. Allah Paak Karam karay ga.
Thanks for tip sabir.
Hope  hai dayhi jaiega aj closing achi hojaie...  :dance :shoaby: :clap1: news agai tou 70 laaoo hojaiga
Cheeta news aai k nahi??

coming week mein kia expectations hay PRL se ? kia 60 cross kr ley ga ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 23, 2015, 10:27:34 AM
time to acummulate :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on November 23, 2015, 10:30:51 AM
time to acummulate :fingerscrossed1:
Lagta tou hai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on November 23, 2015, 11:26:57 AM
Laaaooo hogya :shoaby: :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on November 23, 2015, 12:54:48 PM
After successful commissioning of Isomerisation Plant, the Company is now looking forward to installation of Diesel Hydrodesulphurisation Unit (DHDS) in compliance with the directives of the Government of Pakistan which requires the Company to produce EURO II specification diesel by December 31, 2015. The Company is working closely with technical and investment advisors and evaluating different technological and financial options to meet the above requirement. In view of the longer time involved in setting up a DHDS unit, the Company along with other refineries has engaged the relevant government authorities to extend the deadline of setting up DHDS units
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: masood15 on November 23, 2015, 01:03:58 PM
AJ  TO PAK INVESTOR GUIDE PAR STOCK CHEETA CHAYA HOWA HAY
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on November 23, 2015, 01:19:16 PM
If PRL fail to set up DHDS unit as directives of the Government of Pakistan which requires the Company to produce EURO II specification diesel by December 31, 2015. What is the effect on its performance?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on November 23, 2015, 03:37:22 PM
If PRL fail to set up DHDS unit as directives of the Government of Pakistan which requires the Company to produce EURO II specification diesel by December 31, 2015. What is the effect on its performance?

no one has set up anything
the first dhds plant will be by atrl & it will come online in june 2016.
NRL's dhds will come online in june 2017
PRL's will take 18+ months from financial close .. PRL will need a big rights issue to finance the project
Refineries are in negotations with gov to give them benefits that were promised to them earlier

Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on November 24, 2015, 02:35:24 PM
ye tu pher 50 ko ja raha hai, PSO ne tu ese kafi push kiya tha. ab kiya ho ga?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 24, 2015, 02:49:44 PM
ye tu pher 50 ko ja raha hai, PSO ne tu ese kafi push kiya tha. ab kiya ho ga?
:crying_anim02:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on November 24, 2015, 02:58:38 PM
sabir bahi bolo bi tu ye 50 bi break ker ghea hai.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 25, 2015, 10:36:30 AM
stron buy prl on dip
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on November 25, 2015, 10:54:27 AM
Sold at 52.5 yesterday.
Re-buy at 47
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: stuka on November 25, 2015, 11:35:46 AM
47 ka kahan se mila??? market mai to 48 se nichay nahi aya
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on November 25, 2015, 11:42:54 AM
may be in coming days, 50 tu ker aaya hai. ab 50 kis ne kerni hai?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on November 25, 2015, 11:46:03 AM
47 ka kahan se mila??? market mai to 48 se nichay nahi aya

Stuka bro;  havent re-bought as yet. Will re-buy when it comes down to 47.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 25, 2015, 03:13:55 PM
stron buy prl on dip
:biggthumpup:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on November 25, 2015, 03:26:42 PM
What a performance :dance :shoaby: :clap1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 25, 2015, 03:37:31 PM
What a performance :dance :shoaby: :clap1:
;) :D ::) :[ :shoaby: :s1: :laugh: :good :fingerscrossed1: :thanks: :biggthumpup: :thumbsup_anim: :dance :clap1:
yeh cheeeeeeeeez
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 25, 2015, 07:43:23 PM
cap ker kal I.A
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 26, 2015, 08:46:40 AM
laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao PRL I.A
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ranishali on November 26, 2015, 10:39:58 AM
PRL kaha tak jayega?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on November 26, 2015, 11:03:56 AM
sabir bhai ab bolo na.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 26, 2015, 11:13:26 AM
sabir bhai ab bolo na.
ye lo :crying_anim02:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Sajid on November 26, 2015, 11:18:35 AM
wait till next result
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on November 26, 2015, 12:37:50 PM
Bhai ye tu door ki bat hai. Abi tu lal lal hontoon pe prl tera-----------.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Sajid on November 26, 2015, 01:24:51 PM
bhae stock exchange is only transfer of money from impatient to patient
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on November 26, 2015, 02:22:36 PM
stock market is good but black market is not good es mei transfer of money from patient to         impatient. If market is good woo mal sale kerte hain oor mandi mei mal stock kerte hain.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 26, 2015, 05:21:52 PM
What a performance :dance :shoaby: :clap1:
;) :D ::) :[ :shoaby: :s1: :laugh: :good :fingerscrossed1: :thanks: :biggthumpup: :thumbsup_anim: :dance :clap1:
yeh cheeeeeeeeez
:( :@ :o :down: :crying_anim02: :thumbsdown_anim: :lazy2: uuu :rtfm: :bangin: :confused1: :$:
aaj k liye ye cheeeez
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: aabugvi on November 27, 2015, 08:27:44 AM
Prl heading to 45 if doesn't cross 5 ::)

Kia bakwas ha...... lolz
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on November 27, 2015, 09:35:01 AM
Kiya PSO ne buying li hai ya mal milne per kere ga?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 27, 2015, 01:50:51 PM
dip per bhar looooooo
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on November 27, 2015, 04:13:18 PM
Sabir current rate per buying banti hy ya aur dip ka wait kerna hy.
Already I have 65000@53.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 27, 2015, 06:42:48 PM
Sabir current rate per buying banti hy ya aur dip ka wait kerna hy.
Already I have 65000@53.
65000 boht hay prl, baki trg lay len....
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 30, 2015, 10:36:10 AM
 :skeptic:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 30, 2015, 11:02:15 AM
looking good to me
pakro pakro pakroooo...aray pakro pakro pakro :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: optimistic on November 30, 2015, 11:06:32 AM
looking good to me
pakro pakro pakroooo...aray pakro pakro pakro :thumbsup_anim:

Sabir bhai, STPL muj tu uss mei game hote nazar aa rai ha :[
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: kahaf on November 30, 2015, 11:11:51 AM
opti bhai, stpl  kapage nahe hai, yah prl ka page hai, stpl to belkul stop per hai , you sell stpl and then it go up,  :lazy2: :lazy2:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: optimistic on November 30, 2015, 11:14:54 AM
opti bhai, stpl  kapage nahe hai, yah prl ka page hai, stpl to belkul stop per hai , you sell stpl and then it go up,  :lazy2: :lazy2:

You plz check the posts on stpl page,  :D EOGM is on 01/01/2016 check the agenda please, it will fly soon, abe accumulate ho raha ha rally kay liye :D
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: kahaf on November 30, 2015, 11:19:43 AM
 :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on November 30, 2015, 12:16:05 PM
tere derd se dil abad rehe, bhai kabi wrong line drive se accident bi ho sakta hai.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 30, 2015, 06:28:41 PM
i m ready to rebuy prl....on dip...with trg, mari and hascol petrol
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on November 30, 2015, 06:32:41 PM
i m ready to rebuy prl....on dip...with trg, mari and hascol petrol

bhai wohi stocks leynay hain apnay jo giray nhi ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 30, 2015, 06:34:09 PM
i m ready to rebuy prl....on dip...with trg, mari and hascol petrol

bhai wohi stocks leynay hain apnay jo giray nhi ?
:crying_anim02: PHIR KYA KERO sbm? SUGGEST KAREN
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on November 30, 2015, 07:02:32 PM
i m ready to rebuy prl....on dip...with trg, mari and hascol petrol

bhai wohi stocks leynay hain apnay jo giray nhi ?
:crying_anim02: PHIR KYA KERO sbm? SUGGEST KAREN

kia suggest karna .. apni tu khud waat laggi hui hai ..
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on November 30, 2015, 07:06:18 PM
i m ready to rebuy prl....on dip...with trg, mari and hascol petrol

bhai wohi stocks leynay hain apnay jo giray nhi ?
:crying_anim02: PHIR KYA KERO sbm? SUGGEST KAREN

kia suggest karna .. apni tu khud waat laggi hui hai ..
:crying_anim02:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on November 30, 2015, 07:17:06 PM
i m ready to rebuy prl....on dip...with trg, mari and hascol petrol

bhai wohi stocks leynay hain apnay jo giray nhi ?
:crying_anim02: PHIR KYA KERO sbm? SUGGEST KAREN

kia suggest karna .. apni tu khud waat laggi hui hai ..
:crying_anim02:

i have a preference for the following waisay
 cements  auto  glass insurance steel  and maybe PAEL & ASC can be interesting too
 inpar focus karna chahiyae
 autos mein HINO AGIL are still amongst the cheapest.. psmc can get a boost from celerio
 it should sell twice as many models as cultus
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: aftab ahmed on December 01, 2015, 08:26:59 AM
H car only
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on December 02, 2015, 01:13:02 AM
Sabir ab kia ho ga?? :crying_anim02:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on December 02, 2015, 06:23:08 AM
sabir bhai PRL main entry banti ha abhi
Sabir I bought today 65000 shares with TP of 70 in 3 months.
47-49 buy achi thee....
:rtfm:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on December 02, 2015, 07:55:19 AM
Agree. My fault. But please suggest now the future strategy keeping in view current mkt situation.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on December 02, 2015, 08:00:23 AM
Agree. My fault. But please suggest now the future strategy keeping in view current mkt situation.
ur maal is on delivery, hold it with stop below 41.... :good
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on December 02, 2015, 01:27:35 PM
mrkt back on track prl up
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on December 02, 2015, 05:13:00 PM
UL . Shukar Alhamdulliah.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: mykn on December 02, 2015, 06:22:38 PM
Any new target price for PRL ????
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on December 03, 2015, 01:21:25 PM
I hope to see this scrip on 60 in coming times.
Sabir how do you foresee as I am completely following you in PRL?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on December 04, 2015, 04:09:00 PM
Slowly but surely back on track... :thumbsdown_anim:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sst569 on December 05, 2015, 02:44:07 AM
60-70 by Jan end or before. IA any views?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on December 09, 2015, 10:05:22 AM
Crude oil in world available at cheap rate and in Pakistan refined oil products still high. Matti ke dam le ker sone bhao de ker pher bi loss show kerte hain, Why?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on December 09, 2015, 10:13:41 AM
Crude oil in world available at cheap rate and in Pakistan refined oil products still high. Matti ke dam le ker sone bhao de ker pher bi loss show kerte hain, Why?
koi kehta hai Inventory loss koi kehta hai margin increase due to oil down, pta nah kb tk inventory loss ayega ab oil down hi down nazr aata hai infect 2016 m i thnk 40-50 hi hoga ab margin increase kb hoga
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on December 09, 2015, 12:47:44 PM
Crude oil in world available at cheap rate and in Pakistan refined oil products still high. Matti ke dam le ker sone bhao de ker pher bi loss show kerte hain, Why?
koi kehta hai Inventory loss koi kehta hai margin increase due to oil down, pta nah kb tk inventory loss ayega ab oil down hi down nazr aata hai infect 2016 m i thnk 40-50 hi hoga ab margin increase kb hoga

it can be either depending upon their inventory management ...
Will only know for sure when they post the result
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on December 09, 2015, 01:11:37 PM
Is it able to hit century next year? Some one claim largest oil refiner of Pakistan but its share unable to hit even half century.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on December 09, 2015, 01:22:40 PM
Is it able to hit century next year? Some one claim largest oil refiner of Pakistan but its share unable to hit even half century.
largest or smallest ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on December 09, 2015, 01:57:11 PM
They have announced to merge their smallest and largest refinery in Pakisatn because mother company same, so that will be now heavy weight largest one.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on December 09, 2015, 02:12:43 PM
They have announced to merge their smallest and largest refinery in Pakisatn because mother company same, so that will be now heavy weight largest one.

i think you are talking bout byco
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on December 09, 2015, 02:24:29 PM
Crude oil in world available at cheap rate and in Pakistan refined oil products still high. Matti ke dam le ker sone bhao de ker pher bi loss show kerte hain, Why?
koi kehta hai Inventory loss koi kehta hai margin increase due to oil down, pta nah kb tk inventory loss ayega ab oil down hi down nazr aata hai infect 2016 m i thnk 40-50 hi hoga ab margin increase kb hoga

it can be either depending upon their inventory management ...
Will only know for sure when they post the result
Full year or next Q result u talking about???
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on December 10, 2015, 12:11:58 PM
Seems good. Lets see
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on December 10, 2015, 01:17:16 PM
heavy acummulation
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on December 10, 2015, 01:24:26 PM
heavy acummulation
Bs ab chale tou 60-70 jaie
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: mykn on December 10, 2015, 02:41:15 PM
heavy acummulation
Bs ab chale tou 60-70 jaie
but thora sa chalta hay or wapis aa jata hay :-(
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on December 10, 2015, 08:21:59 PM
Sabir kab tk hold karna hy for maximum benefit. :confused1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on December 11, 2015, 10:17:41 AM
Sabir kab tk hold karna hy for maximum benefit. :confused1:
hold with patience
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on December 11, 2015, 10:33:12 AM
lao 55 rupees short term I.A
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on December 11, 2015, 12:16:00 PM
lao 55 rupees short term I.A
Insha Allah.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Sajid on December 11, 2015, 02:08:04 PM
heavy accumulation of prl never sell it
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on December 11, 2015, 03:29:02 PM
 uuu :rtfm:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on December 14, 2015, 10:08:18 PM
Sabir koi andar ki khabar???
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on December 18, 2015, 12:28:43 PM
Sabir kuch to batao please....
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Haidat on December 18, 2015, 03:19:20 PM
Sabar ker ja bhai! Abhi tu yeh 45 ki taraf jata nazar aata hai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on December 21, 2015, 04:25:08 PM
heavy accumulation of prl never sell it
:shoaby: :shoaby: :dance :shoaby: :shoaby:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on December 22, 2015, 07:22:36 AM
heavy accumulation of prl never sell it
:shoaby: :shoaby: :dance :shoaby: :shoaby:
:@
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on December 29, 2015, 05:51:53 PM
Very boring life for the holders of PRL :( :(
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on December 31, 2015, 08:25:31 AM
Bro; please elaborate, which oil refinery play vital role to reduce oil import bill of Pakistan in 2016. Thanks.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on January 01, 2016, 10:19:10 AM
Buy with confidence and sell carefully, be happy.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: aabugvi on January 05, 2016, 08:14:17 AM
Kab chalay ga :skeptic:
Jab sale kar don ga :laugh:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on January 05, 2016, 11:50:15 PM
looking good to me
pakro pakro pakroooo...aray pakro pakro pakro :thumbsup_anim:
Sabir any comment?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on January 05, 2016, 11:58:46 PM
looking good to me
pakro pakro pakroooo...aray pakro pakro pakro :thumbsup_anim:
Sabir any comment?
hold
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on January 06, 2016, 10:33:41 AM
Which one will Fly, this one or any other one -------- Fly ---------Fly.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on January 06, 2016, 10:55:12 AM
Which one will Fly, this one or any other one -------- Fly ---------Fly.
other 1 can fly yes...but....but in dreams :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: aabugvi on January 09, 2016, 10:07:15 AM
InshaAllah ready for fly hold your position.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on January 09, 2016, 01:54:26 PM
InshaAllah ready for fly hold your position.
FLY ME TO THE MOON AND LET ME PLAY AMONG THE STARS.... :good
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: aabugvi on January 09, 2016, 10:00:41 PM
Which one will Fly, this one or any other one -------- Fly ---------Fly.
other 1 can fly yes...but....but in dreams :thanks:

Soon dreams come true dear.
Dont break your heart i m standing with u.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on January 11, 2016, 03:18:03 PM
http://tribune.com.p...ealthy-margins/
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on January 13, 2016, 03:31:25 PM
 huhu huhu huhu
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: mykn on January 13, 2016, 04:34:04 PM
huhu huhu huhu

Sahi takrein mar rahay hein bhai apna bhi yehi dil kr raha hay

 huhu huhu huhu  huhu huhu huhu
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on January 13, 2016, 04:53:03 PM
huhu huhu huhu

Sahi takrein mar rahay hein bhai apna bhi yehi dil kr raha hay

 huhu huhu huhu  huhu huhu huhu
Sabir hold or immediate sell??
Please advise...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on January 13, 2016, 06:10:06 PM
huhu huhu huhu

Sahi takrein mar rahay hein bhai apna bhi yehi dil kr raha hay

 huhu huhu huhu  huhu huhu huhu
Sabir hold or immediate sell??
Please advise...
Nadeem bhai any news in it???
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: mykn on January 13, 2016, 06:16:49 PM
huhu huhu huhu

Sahi takrein mar rahay hein bhai apna bhi yehi dil kr raha hay

 huhu huhu huhu  huhu huhu huhu
Sabir hold or immediate sell??
Please advise...
Nadeem bhai any news in it???
I will hold bhai, do not want to bear los
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on January 13, 2016, 06:28:31 PM
huhu huhu huhu

Sahi takrein mar rahay hein bhai apna bhi yehi dil kr raha hay

 huhu huhu huhu  huhu huhu huhu
Sabir hold or immediate sell??
Please advise...
Nadeem bhai any news in it???
I will hold bhai, do not want to bear los
I m also hold hope next q is gud
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on January 13, 2016, 06:50:32 PM
kiya lootf anjemen ka ---- jab dil hi buj gheya ho.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on January 13, 2016, 06:57:55 PM
kiya lootf anjemen ka ---- jab dil hi buj gheya ho.
Aesa hi kuch hal mera hai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Zamid on January 13, 2016, 06:58:47 PM
kiya lootf anjemen ka ---- jab dil hi buj gheya ho.
Aesa hi kuch hal mera hai
here too brothers  :crying_anim02:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on January 13, 2016, 10:54:50 PM
http://tribune.com.pk/story/1025203/despite-price-decline-refineries-continue-to-enjoy-healthy-margins/
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sst569 on January 13, 2016, 11:55:18 PM
Dear fellows, hold if you can, now down side in oils is limited. So once oil is stable or prices start rising it will start showing profits. So hold. Although its a painfull situation.

Thanks
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on January 14, 2016, 11:27:04 AM
Dear fellows, hold if you can, now down side in oils is limited. So once oil is stable or prices start rising it will start showing profits. So hold. Although its a painfull situation.

Thanks
Bs thorda aur or phir :clap1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ahmed786 on January 15, 2016, 11:42:44 AM
Dear fellows, hold if you can, now down side in oils is limited. So once oil is stable or prices start rising it will start showing profits. So hold. Although its a painfull situation.

Thanks
Bs thorda aur or phir :clap1:

It may slide down further as the current oil slide below 30 will create more inventory losses in 3rd quarter. so any gain in case of good result in 2nd quarter will be limited
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on January 15, 2016, 10:11:35 PM
Is ka down fall he nahi rukk raha.....
Senoirs forum members please give your expert suggestion in current scenario.
I have 65000 shares @ 54. I am really worried now...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on January 15, 2016, 10:24:00 PM
huhu huhu huhu

Sahi takrein mar rahay hein bhai apna bhi yehi dil kr raha hay

 huhu huhu huhu  huhu huhu huhu
Sabir hold or immediate sell??
Please advise...
Nadeem bhai any news in it???
no news whole market is depressed due to globally meltdown and lower crude oil price market looks week in coming weeks therefore fresh entry is not recomment we may see a new lows peoples can't imagine shortly but if u have a investment horizon of 6-9 months then nothing to worry
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: optimistic on January 15, 2016, 11:50:59 PM
Is ka down fall he nahi rukk raha.....
Senoirs forum members please give your expert suggestion in current scenario.
I have 65000 shares @ 54. I am really worried now...

better to book loss it might come down below 25 within short time as refineries supposed to book heavy inventory losses which might resultant sweeping their all profits.. book loss book loss book loss :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Tamour123 on January 16, 2016, 12:46:02 AM
Why will refineries book losses on inventory ? Refineries earn the most in a situation where crude oil (input cost) is going down whereas prices of refined products are changed with a lag (at least 1 month lag in Pakistan as OGRA considers price revision on 1st of each month)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on January 16, 2016, 12:53:55 AM
Why will refineries book losses on inventory ? Refineries earn the most in a situation where crude oil (input cost) is going down whereas prices of refined products are changed with a lag (at least 1 month lag in Pakistan as OGRA considers price revision on 1st of each month)

pechlay quarter kia hua tha ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on January 16, 2016, 01:08:27 AM
Is ka down fall he nahi rukk raha.....
Senoirs forum members please give your expert suggestion in current scenario.
I have 65000 shares @ 54. I am really worried now...

No need to worry just hold on you have a good stock in hand,oil pressure is a temporary phenomenon for refineries(Only inventory losses or currency).

Your company is doing well
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on January 16, 2016, 01:14:10 AM
Is ka down fall he nahi rukk raha.....
Senoirs forum members please give your expert suggestion in current scenario.
I have 65000 shares @ 54. I am really worried now...

better to book loss it might come down below 25 within short time as refineries supposed to book heavy inventory losses which might resultant sweeping their all profits.. book loss book loss book loss :fingerscrossed1:

PRL has gone through isomerization the first refinery achieved that you will see improved results in future quarters also they will announce soon for desulfurization.So Mr Ali stay put its time to buy not to sell
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on January 16, 2016, 01:30:16 AM
Is ka down fall he nahi rukk raha.....
Senoirs forum members please give your expert suggestion in current scenario.
I have 65000 shares @ 54. I am really worried now...

better to book loss it might come down below 25 within short time as refineries supposed to book heavy inventory losses which might resultant sweeping their all profits.. book loss book loss book loss :fingerscrossed1:

PRL has gone through isomerization the first refinery achieved that you will see improved results in future quarters also they will announce soon for desulfurization.So Mr Ali stay put its time to buy not to sell

dhdhs unit keh liyae 300% rights bhariyae ga ap
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on January 16, 2016, 02:00:59 AM
Is ka down fall he nahi rukk raha.....
Senoirs forum members please give your expert suggestion in current scenario.
I have 65000 shares @ 54. I am really worried now...

better to book loss it might come down below 25 within short time as refineries supposed to book heavy inventory losses which might resultant sweeping their all profits.. book loss book loss book loss :fingerscrossed1:

PRL has gone through isomerization the first refinery achieved that you will see improved results in future quarters also they will announce soon for desulfurization.So Mr Ali stay put its time to buy not to sell

dhdhs unit keh liyae 300% rights bhariyae ga ap

Yeah expecting that
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rsuleman on January 16, 2016, 10:28:32 AM
Is ka down fall he nahi rukk raha.....
Senoirs forum members please give your expert suggestion in current scenario.
I have 65000 shares @ 54. I am really worried now...
Generally speaking and for better risk management, it is advisable not to invest in a share more than 10% of the total investment.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rsuleman on January 16, 2016, 10:42:32 AM
Is ka down fall he nahi rukk raha.....
Senoirs forum members please give your expert suggestion in current scenario.
I have 65000 shares @ 54. I am really worried now...

better to book loss it might come down below 25 within short time as refineries supposed to book heavy inventory losses which might resultant sweeping their all profits.. book loss book loss book loss :fingerscrossed1:

PRL has gone through isomerization the first refinery achieved that you will see improved results in future quarters also they will announce soon for desulfurization.So Mr Ali stay put its time to buy not to sell
Has any report suggested impact of isomerization on EPS? The plant was commisioned in June 2015, as I gather.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on January 16, 2016, 12:47:41 PM
huhu huhu huhu

Sahi takrein mar rahay hein bhai apna bhi yehi dil kr raha hay

 huhu huhu huhu  huhu huhu huhu
Sabir hold or immediate sell??
Please advise...
Nadeem bhai any news in it???
no news whole market is depressed due to globally meltdown and lower crude oil price market looks week in coming weeks therefore fresh entry is not recomment we may see a new lows peoples can't imagine shortly but if u have a investment horizon of 6-9 months then nothing to worry
Nadeem bhai it will announce 300% rights thn where u see the price in the short term????
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on January 16, 2016, 01:03:05 PM
Don't sell at current rate but no further investment in shares till the index reaches bottom better to have a cash in hands market provides good opportunities to investors in future so many satta peoples traps in TRG TPL byco jscl prl things become normalize in next couple of months wait for bottom and market to stabilize
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on January 16, 2016, 01:24:03 PM
Thanks a lot Nadeem Bhai for giving the hope at this crucial time. I will hold my 65000 PRL as I have a time line till jun 16.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Salammembers on January 16, 2016, 03:33:03 PM
Don't sell at current rate but no further investment in shares till the index reaches bottom better to have a cash in hands market provides good opportunities to investors in future so many satta peoples traps in TRG TPL byco jscl prl things become normalize in next couple of months wait for bottom and market to stabilize
Any guess/ prediction about bottom? :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on January 16, 2016, 03:47:47 PM
Subject to market conditions if index find support above 30000 then 32-35 if breaks 30000 then find support above 30 wait for half yearly result if surprice comes then good rally expected
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Dhillon on January 16, 2016, 08:44:48 PM
PRL HY Board Meeting

26-01-2016 at 11:00 AM

http://www.psx.com.pk/notices-updates/detail2.php?0.18418685253709555&id=4&nid=075333

Positive result and any good news about PSO to increase holding percentage shall definitely boost its price. otherwise present MKT sentiment especially in OIL stocks is very weak. Hopefully today IRAN sanctions will be lifted the max impact has already builtin .The local issue are still intact. opportunist may drag the market further down. Normally MKT behaves aggressively at any side before the event. Now Iran oil export almost has decided .Below is the latest news and  tweet of Iranian Foreign Minister. Fromaly IAEA announcement is waiting.       


The International Atomic Energy Agency is expected to release its report Saturday assessing Iran's compliance with an agreement with foreign powers, including the United States and the European Union. Many observers expect the IAEA will corroborate Iranian compliance.
The new "Day" will mean the first wave of economic relief for Iran.

Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif had already exuded confidence in a post to Twitter shortly after arriving in Vienna that the milestone has been met. "#ImplementationDay, it's now time for all -- especially Muslim nations -- to join hands and rid the world of violent extremism.

   
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: danishhussain93 on January 16, 2016, 10:08:10 PM
nadeem bhai meray pass 2000 engro he @280 in future aap opinion den or Engro le lo for average in this market, Nadeem bhai i need your comment thanks...    :thanks: :thanks: :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on January 16, 2016, 11:06:27 PM
nadeem bhai meray pass 2000 engro he @280 in future aap opinion den or Engro le lo for average in this market, Nadeem bhai i need your comment thanks...    :thanks: :thanks: :thanks:
hold if u hold till marchl its better to average around 265-268 but took your owndecision
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on January 16, 2016, 11:14:50 PM
nadeem bhai meray pass 2000 engro he @280 in future aap opinion den or Engro le lo for average in this market, Nadeem bhai i need your comment thanks...    :thanks: :thanks: :thanks:
hold if u hold till marchl its better to average around 265-268 but took your owndecision
average around in between 260-265
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Salammembers on January 17, 2016, 12:29:42 AM
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/16/business/energy-environment/oil-prices-one-million-barrel-glut.html?emc=edit_th_20160116&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=63742525&_r=0&referer=
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on January 19, 2016, 01:18:05 PM
Thanks to Allah. Kuch to break lagi.
Thanks Nadeem Bhai for your advice to hold.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on January 19, 2016, 02:27:28 PM
Thanks to Allah. Kuch to break lagi.
Thanks Nadeem Bhai for your advice to hold.
Bs ab result m kuch surprise ho! :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on January 19, 2016, 03:44:44 PM
Thanks to Allah. Kuch to break lagi.
Thanks Nadeem Bhai for your advice to hold.
Bs ab result m kuch surprise ho! :fingerscrossed1:
Any idea about result dates?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on January 19, 2016, 06:39:07 PM
Thanks to Allah. Kuch to break lagi.
Thanks Nadeem Bhai for your advice to hold.
Bs ab result m kuch surprise ho! :fingerscrossed1:
Any idea about result dates?
26 jan
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on January 20, 2016, 03:00:37 PM
Crude oil price touching bottom line, so oil refineries importance is increased. Pakistan could control load shedding using diesel power plant.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on January 21, 2016, 07:01:30 PM
Subject to market conditions if index find support above 30000 then 32-35 if breaks 30000 then find support above 30 wait for half yearly result if surprise comes then good rally expected
Ya Allah khair ka result ho. Ameen.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: ilyaascheema on January 21, 2016, 09:50:27 PM
Subject to market conditions if index find support above 30000 then 32-35 if breaks 30000 then find support above 30 wait for half yearly result if surprise comes then good rally expected
Ya Allah khair ka result ho. Ameen.

it seems it will be a -ve surprise due to inventory losses exchange losses. no?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on January 21, 2016, 11:33:31 PM
Farzooq Bhai how do you foresee PRL in short and long term?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Farzooq on January 21, 2016, 11:34:58 PM
Farzooq Bhai how do you foresee PRL in short and long term?

Havent been following refinery margins lately. I will check and let you know.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on January 22, 2016, 12:02:13 AM
Farzooq Bhai how do you foresee PRL in short and long term?

Havent been following refinery margins lately. I will check and let you know.
Thank you sir.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Farzooq on January 22, 2016, 01:01:16 AM
Farzooq Bhai how do you foresee PRL in short and long term?

Havent been following refinery margins lately. I will check and let you know.
Thank you sir.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1025203/despite-price-decline-refineries-continue-to-enjoy-healthy-margins/
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on January 22, 2016, 01:44:19 AM
Farzooq Bhai how do you foresee PRL in short and long term?

Havent been following refinery margins lately. I will check and let you know.
Thank you sir.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1025203/despite-price-decline-refineries-continue-to-enjoy-healthy-margins/

Inventory losses will wipe out all for fuel refineries
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Salammembers on January 22, 2016, 02:20:51 AM
Farzooq Bhai how do you foresee PRL in short and long term?

Havent been following refinery margins lately. I will check and let you know.
Thank you sir.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1025203/despite-price-decline-refineries-continue-to-enjoy-healthy-margins/

Inventory losses will wipe out all for fuel refineries
alpha bro,
kia prl buy karoo?
if yes tu kis rate paar with tgt price pl :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on January 22, 2016, 10:38:03 AM
http://tribune.com.pk/story/1025203/despite-price-decline-refineries-continue-to-enjoy-healthy-margins/
Pakistan Oil refineries are enjoying and sharehoders are crying.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on January 22, 2016, 11:53:22 AM
Farzooq Bhai how do you foresee PRL in short and long term?

Havent been following refinery margins lately. I will check and let you know.
Thank you sir.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1025203/despite-price-decline-refineries-continue-to-enjoy-healthy-margins/
Thanks a lot Farzooq Bhai for keeping your words of sharing refinery related information.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on January 22, 2016, 04:11:03 PM
Huge Relief to see it back in 40s..
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: kahaf on January 22, 2016, 08:41:29 PM
sort term 45 seems easily
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on January 22, 2016, 09:25:08 PM
Farzooq Bhai how do you foresee PRL in short and long term?

Havent been following refinery margins lately. I will check and let you know.
Thank you sir.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1025203/despite-price-decline-refineries-continue-to-enjoy-healthy-margins/

Inventory losses will wipe out all for fuel refineries
alpha bro,
kia prl buy karoo?
if yes tu kis rate paar with tgt price pl :thanks:

around 38,but prefer atrl than prl
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Salammembers on January 22, 2016, 10:11:34 PM
Farzooq Bhai how do you foresee PRL in short and long term?

Havent been following refinery margins lately. I will check and let you know.
Thank you sir.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1025203/despite-price-decline-refineries-continue-to-enjoy-healthy-margins/

Inventory losses will wipe out all for fuel refineries
alpha bro,
kia prl buy karoo?
if yes tu kis rate paar with tgt price pl :thanks:

around 38,but prefer atrl than prl
ok ,thanks
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: mykn on January 23, 2016, 08:33:55 PM

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/business/10-Jun-2015/hascol-to-invest-rs-384m-in-prl
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: jammykhan on January 23, 2016, 08:44:37 PM

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/business/10-Jun-2015/hascol-to-invest-rs-384m-in-prl
bhai ,any, new news about this sigment, this is old one
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: mykn on January 23, 2016, 08:51:00 PM

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/business/10-Jun-2015/hascol-to-invest-rs-384m-in-prl
bhai ,any, new news about this sigment, this is old one
sorry bro, I didn't notice the date :-(
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: stock addicted on January 26, 2016, 12:50:18 AM
Look out dor the earnings this quarter you may be surprised
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: U.Khan on January 26, 2016, 01:51:06 AM
Look out dor the earnings this quarter you may be surprised
What is the expected tp after result ?? :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on January 26, 2016, 02:46:10 PM
Waiting for result :lazy2: :lazy2:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: mykn on January 26, 2016, 03:31:52 PM
Waiting for result :lazy2: :lazy2:
when they will post the result  :confused1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on January 26, 2016, 03:35:47 PM
http://www.psx.com.pk/newsattachment/075970.pdf
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: mykn on January 26, 2016, 03:36:42 PM
Nothing announced  :bangin: huhu huhu huhu huhu
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: kahaf on January 26, 2016, 03:38:28 PM
ffbl is better other then prl in current rates
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: aftab6274974 on January 26, 2016, 05:51:56 PM
http://www.psx.com.pk/newsattachment/075970.pdf (Qualified Conclusion) :[ :[ :[ :[ :[ :[
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on January 26, 2016, 06:58:56 PM
http://www.psx.com.pk/newsattachment/075970.pdf (Qualified Conclusion) :[ :[ :[ :[ :[ :[

company is f**ked
but strong net margins bodes well for other refineries, especially atrl after upgradation project is complete
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on January 26, 2016, 07:20:30 PM
Subject to market conditions if index find support above 30000 then 32-35 if breaks 30000 then find support above 30 wait for half yearly result if surprise comes then good rally expected

Nadeem Bhai what is your feedback now?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sst569 on January 26, 2016, 07:48:53 PM
EPS= 2.76 , 857 million profit for the quarter.

Low oil prices bode well for profitibilty. Since donwnside is limited in oils now onward will show profits inshAllah.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on January 26, 2016, 07:50:18 PM
Nadeem bro ur input required
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: arshi on January 26, 2016, 07:55:00 PM
http://www.psx.com.pk/newsattachment/075970.pdf (Qualified Conclusion) :[ :[ :[ :[ :[ :[

company is f**ked
but strong net margins bodes well for other refineries, especially atrl after upgradation project is complete
Sbm. I am holding atrl. Can u recommend some tp?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on January 26, 2016, 08:34:01 PM
Nadeem bro ur input required
surprise comes hold excellent result
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfankhan on January 26, 2016, 11:38:15 PM
Nadeem bro ur input required
surprise comes hold excellent result

We were expecting the price of 75 in October 2015 as per Nadeem bhai assumption and then Oil went down drastically so no complains.

Nadeem bhai whats tp for this and the time duration once again please.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: mykn on January 26, 2016, 11:42:53 PM
Nadeem bro ur input required
surprise comes hold excellent result

We were expecting the price of 75 in October 2015 as per Nadeem bhai assumption and then Oil went down drastically so no complains.

Nadeem bhai whats tp for this and the time duration once again please.

I am going to hold it till its actual price in three fingures
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sst569 on January 27, 2016, 01:37:12 AM
Iss rally mein 50+ tou jana chahye, ap log kia kehty hain?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: danishhussain93 on January 27, 2016, 10:48:22 AM
Nadeem bhai T.p kia he PRL ki???
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: ahmed499 on January 27, 2016, 11:02:35 AM
for a brief overview
http://investkarachi.blogspot.com/2016/01/pakistan-refinery-ltd-stocksaccounts.html
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on January 27, 2016, 02:24:30 PM
Nadeem bro ur input required
surprise comes hold excellent result
But surprise iss ki price m nazr ku nah araha??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on January 27, 2016, 02:29:56 PM
may be take some time to touch 50, need long time for 100.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on January 28, 2016, 09:27:19 PM
Not sure about the margins coming from naphtha isomerization or due to inventory gains as ex refinery prices were 7-8% higher than the previous quarter or were almost at the same level for some smaller products like kero,ldo .
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on January 28, 2016, 11:29:00 PM
Not sure about the margins coming from naphtha isomerization or due to inventory gains as ex refinery prices were 7-8% higher than the previous quarter or were almost at the same level for some smaller products like kero,ldo .

dunno how to tell ..
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rsuleman on January 29, 2016, 11:00:25 AM
Not sure about the margins coming from naphtha isomerization or due to inventory gains as ex refinery prices were 7-8% higher than the previous quarter or were almost at the same level for some smaller products like kero,ldo .

dunno how to tell ..
Isomerization plant was commissioned in June 2015. However, there was a significant LPS in Q1FY16. Inventory loss might have eaten up its gain in the quarter.
The installed plant converts low value Naphtha into Petrol. Petrol production capacity was supposed to double from existing 35,000  to 70,000 MT/Quarter, accordingly.
I wonder if this additional quantity of petrol have done the trick!
If export price of naphtha and PRL's local sale price of petrol is known, rough value of contribution of Isomerization Plant may be worked out.
It is also notable that the plant was installed using borrowed money and without increase to equity. Therefore, there should have been increase in debt servicing.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on January 29, 2016, 01:11:58 PM
Is there any possibility in future  that PRL will trade at Rs 469 as it was trading in 2005??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: umarm on January 29, 2016, 01:18:55 PM
Is there any possibility in future  that PRL will trade at Rs 469 as it was trading in 2005??

Yes it may trade at 469 if it purchase back its 800 percent right shares which it issued.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rsuleman on January 29, 2016, 01:31:29 PM
Is there any possibility in future  that PRL will trade at Rs 469 as it was trading in 2005??

Yes it may trade at 469 if it purchase back its 800 percent right shares which it issued.
For buy back, it needs to generate funds. Can its operations flow the funds or are funds available interest free?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on January 29, 2016, 02:32:38 PM
I don’t think so this one in position to buy back near in future but another oil refinery is held by largest oil refinery of Pakistan, a holding company used by strong multinational (local and foreign) sponsors to control the group, can easily buyback its refinery shares.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on January 29, 2016, 02:43:42 PM
Is there any possibility in future  that PRL will trade at Rs 469 as it was trading in 2005??

Yes it may trade at 469 if it purchase back its 800 percent right shares which it issued.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on January 29, 2016, 02:54:08 PM
I don’t think so this one in position to buy back near in future but another oil refinery is held by largest oil refinery of Pakistan, a holding company used by strong multinational (local and foreign) sponsors to control the group, can easily buyback its refinery shares.
You talking about byco?/
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rsuleman on January 29, 2016, 04:16:35 PM
I don’t think so this one in position to buy back near in future but another oil refinery is held by largest oil refinery of Pakistan, a holding company used by strong multinational (local and foreign) sponsors to control the group, can easily buyback its refinery shares.
You talking about byco?/
Let BYCO first prove its credibility that it is not a bottomless pit and start returning to junta. Junta invests to get return and it cannot be happy with big empire of infrastructure with no return.
To-date, BYCO is no more than a tool with manipulators to lure junta to get stuck therein and then they themselves get out of it with big profit.
Do you wish PRL to be like BYCO, by handing over PRL to BYCO and make shareholders of PRL suffer like shareholders of BYCO are suffering?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on January 29, 2016, 04:46:46 PM
I don’t think so this one in position to buy back near in future but another oil refinery is held by largest oil refinery of Pakistan, a holding company used by strong multinational (local and foreign) sponsors to control the group, can easily buyback its refinery shares.
You talking about byco?/
Let BYCO first prove its credibility that it is not a bottomless pit and start returning to junta. Junta invests to get return and it cannot be happy with big empire of infrastructure with no return.
To-date, BYCO is no more than a tool with manipulators to lure junta to get stuck therein and then they themselves get out of it with big profit.
Do you wish PRL to be like BYCO, by handing over PRL to BYCO and make shareholders of PRL suffer like shareholders of BYCO are suffering?
Of course no!!Byco is chor group
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ranishali on February 11, 2016, 03:49:41 PM
Seniors plz guide, hold or sell? its declining
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on February 12, 2016, 04:36:36 PM
Bought 10000 more today @39.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on February 12, 2016, 06:01:05 PM
The more I am searching about this share the more surprising facts I am getting.
Only one year before this share was trading @180 per share. Till that day things were fine. Then came 9th April 2015......
On 9th April 2015 it was closed at 180 but opened at 28 in the next morning of 10 April 2015.
Akhir us raat company ny aisa kon sa decision lia tha jis sy ye 180 sy 28 per aa gya??
Please share if any one of you members have any information...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adil. on February 12, 2016, 06:29:09 PM
The more I am searching about this share the more surprising facts I am getting.
Only one year before this share was trading @180 per share. Till that day things were fine. Then came 9th April 2015......
On 9th April 2015 it was closed at 180 but opened at 28 in the next morning of 10 April 2015.
Akhir us raat company ny aisa kon sa decision lia tha jis sy ye 180 sy 28 per aa gya??
Please share if any one of you members have any information...

Rights were issued. XR rate...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SYB on February 12, 2016, 07:03:22 PM
The more I am searching about this share the more surprising facts I am getting.
Only one year before this share was trading @180 per share. Till that day things were fine. Then came 9th April 2015......
On 9th April 2015 it was closed at 180 but opened at 28 in the next morning of 10 April 2015.
Akhir us raat company ny aisa kon sa decision lia tha jis sy ye 180 sy 28 per aa gya??
Please share if any one of you members have any information...
Bhai, 800% right shares issue hu tha
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rsuleman on February 12, 2016, 08:29:53 PM
The more I am searching about this share the more surprising facts I am getting.
Only one year before this share was trading @180 per share. Till that day things were fine. Then came 9th April 2015......
On 9th April 2015 it was closed at 180 but opened at 28 in the next morning of 10 April 2015.
Akhir us raat company ny aisa kon sa decision lia tha jis sy ye 180 sy 28 per aa gya??
Please share if any one of you members have any information...
Bhai, 800% right shares issue hu tha
Thus it was a big appreciation on April 10, 2015. Then existing shareholders earned big increase to their share price.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on February 12, 2016, 09:16:10 PM
The more I am searching about this share the more surprising facts I am getting.
Only one year before this share was trading @180 per share. Till that day things were fine. Then came 9th April 2015......
On 9th April 2015 it was closed at 180 but opened at 28 in the next morning of 10 April 2015.
Akhir us raat company ny aisa kon sa decision lia tha jis sy ye 180 sy 28 per aa gya??
Please share if any one of you members have any information...
Bhai, 800% right shares issue hu tha
Thus it was a big appreciation on April 10, 2015. Then existing shareholders earned big increase to their share price.
800% :skeptic:
So what project they announced to justify this huge right issuance ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: M ellahi on February 12, 2016, 10:01:45 PM
I believe this stock is oversold,
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on February 12, 2016, 10:20:37 PM
The more I am searching about this share the more surprising facts I am getting.
Only one year before this share was trading @180 per share. Till that day things were fine. Then came 9th April 2015......
On 9th April 2015 it was closed at 180 but opened at 28 in the next morning of 10 April 2015.
Akhir us raat company ny aisa kon sa decision lia tha jis sy ye 180 sy 28 per aa gya??
Please share if any one of you members have any information...
Bhai, 800% right shares issue hu tha
Thus it was a big appreciation on April 10, 2015. Then existing shareholders earned big increase to their share price.
800% :skeptic:
So what project they announced to justify this huge right issuance ?

they were(are?) bankrupt, thats why
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on February 13, 2016, 12:19:46 AM
Nadeem bro ur input required
surprise comes hold excellent result
EPS= 2.76 , 857 million profit for the quarter.
Q3 & Q4 main bhi agar company is EPS ko sustain ker laiti hy to maira khyal hy share price easily 6 months main 70 tak ja sakti hy.
Members what you suggest?

Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sst569 on February 13, 2016, 05:24:54 AM
Nadeem bro ur input required
surprise comes hold excellent result
EPS= 2.76 , 857 million profit for the quarter.
Q3 & Q4 main bhi agar company is EPS ko sustain ker laiti hy to maira khyal hy share price easily 6 months main 70 tak ja sakti hy.
Members what you suggest?

It can and will earn the profits, now there is a little risk of inventory lossess as oil prices are near to the bottom. Moreover PSO had shown the interest to incraese holding, if it materialize soon price can pull up significantly.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on February 19, 2016, 06:46:58 PM
Systematic market risk prevails.....
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on February 22, 2016, 10:49:53 AM
 Almost all Pak oil refineries announced handsome half year fin. results. The results of current quarter expected best one due to cheap crude oil.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on February 22, 2016, 12:40:56 PM
Almost all Pak oil refineries announced handsome half year fin. results. The results of current quarter expected best one due to cheap crude oil.

i think q3 will be bad
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on February 22, 2016, 09:32:51 PM
Almost all Pak oil refineries announced handsome half year fin. results. The results of current quarter expected best one due to cheap crude oil.

i think q3 will be bad
SBM please don't post such messages without any news.
I have great expectations with PRL and have good position in it.
Can you please share the basis of your intuition regarding q3?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on February 22, 2016, 09:59:58 PM
Almost all Pak oil refineries announced handsome half year fin. results. The results of current quarter expected best one due to cheap crude oil.

i think q3 will be bad
SBM please don't post such messages without any news.
I have great expectations with PRL and have good position in it.
Can you please share the basis of your intuition regarding q3?

Merey bhai  these are the Ex refinery prices till now and last month march will be worse

HSD avg price in last quarter 42.12
In this quarter i.e jan,feb avg 35.41
So more then 15% decline in HSD

JP-1 avg prev q 38.92
in this quarter 28.68
you can calculate...

Kerosine prev 38.64
now 28.4

MS 42.18
now 40.94

This quarter certainly is very bad.
But after that a good journey expected if oil sustains or appreciates!


Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on February 22, 2016, 10:27:22 PM
Then what you suggest in the scenario where I have 75000@49...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on February 23, 2016, 09:43:24 AM
Hathi k daant khane k oor dekhane k oor hote hain. Ju en ki maar khaee ga  bhala kahan ko jae ga. I mean avoid calculations.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on February 25, 2016, 12:09:48 PM
Hathi k daant khane k oor dekhane k oor hote hain. Ju en ki maar khaee ga  bhala kahan ko jae ga. I mean avoid calculations.
Haati Zinda Lakh ka aur Mara hoa Sawa Lakh ka....
Lets See!!!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on February 25, 2016, 09:07:57 PM
http://www.prl.com.pk/downloads/halfdec2015.pdf
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali on February 25, 2016, 09:14:30 PM
Then what you suggest in the scenario where I have 75000@49...

Sold PRL and Shift to Efert
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on February 26, 2016, 02:03:09 AM
Then what you suggest in the scenario where I have 75000@49...

Sold PRL and Shift to Efert
Selling PRL at this rate means booking a loss of around one million !!!!!
Is it advisable ???
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: wasiq on February 26, 2016, 10:12:28 AM
Then what you suggest in the scenario where I have 75000@49...

Sold PRL and Shift to Efert
Selling PRL at this rate means booking a loss of around one million !!!!!
Is it advisable ???

try to avg it in this scenario.. don't sell it in that much loss.. !!!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on February 26, 2016, 10:53:03 AM
Then what you suggest in the scenario where I have 75000@49...

Sold PRL and Shift to Efert
Selling PRL at this rate means booking a loss of around one million !!!!!
Is it advisable ???

Bro; this is one of some Pakistan oil refineries, not shop of oil seller. I am not businessman, haven’t much money otherwise buy 100k share of any largest oil refinery of Pakistan.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rsuleman on February 26, 2016, 12:09:46 PM
Then what you suggest in the scenario where I have 75000@49...

Sold PRL and Shift to Efert
Selling PRL at this rate means booking a loss of around one million !!!!!
Is it advisable ???

Bro; this is one of some Pakistan oil refineries, not shop of oil seller. I am not businessman, haven’t much money otherwise buy 100k share of any largest oil refinery of Pakistan.
Investment decision is never made on emotions. You cannot control market based on your wish, emotion or mindset.
Intelligent approach is to review trailing data and anticipated performance before you decide to invest.
Once invested, decisions are made for maximizing profit and/or minimizing the loss.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on March 03, 2016, 02:25:46 PM
Rights issue: PSO wins curtsy for merger of Pakistan Refinery shares
http://heights.com.pk/news/story/6378
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: hammad01 on March 03, 2016, 11:50:45 PM
Rights issue: PSO wins curtsy for merger of Pakistan Refinery shares
http://heights.com.pk/news/story/6378

Stock bro, how much impact do you see on PRL share price?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on March 04, 2016, 09:57:50 AM
Nadeem bro ur input required
surprise comes hold excellent result
With the last quarter +ve EPS and this PSO news and today's upper lock where we can expect PRL in coming months?
Members please advise for future strategy..
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on March 04, 2016, 11:30:52 AM
Let c if market  support so it can touch 48 in this raly
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: leraningtheropes on March 04, 2016, 11:33:41 AM
Salaam guys,

Some newbie questions for you. Help a brother out on the journey to learn more.

1) So PRL has a history of negative EPS. I mean we're talking huge numbers. Also, it doesn't pay out anything at all. Why then is this stock still trading at such a high P/E? Does this mean that investors expect value in the future?

2) Given the current scenario in crude oil prices and expectations of it staying in the 28-35 dollar per barrel range for much of 2016, how will this impact the earning of PRL?

3) Most importantly seniors, is this company fundamentally sound? Should I put my money in this script? Not expecting payouts obviously but would it be smart?

Thanks in advance guys. Hope you guys are having a good day.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on March 04, 2016, 11:34:02 AM
Nadeem bhai  plz comment the impact on  EPS and its share pice after this deal???
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on March 04, 2016, 12:35:14 PM
ISLAMABAD (APP): The Competition Commission of Pakistan (CCP) has granted approval to the acquisition of upto 26.67% shares in Pakistan Refinery Limited (PRL) by Pakistan State Oil Company Limited (PSO).
?PRL is a local refinery producing various refined petroleum products such as motor gasoline, kerosene, and diesel oil for supply to oil marketing companies? says a statement issued by the Commission here today.
According to the statement, the PSO is an oil marketing company engaged in the supply of refined petroleum products to end consumers.
The approval in form of an order under Section 11 read with Section 31 of the Competition Act, 2010 (the ?Act?) was passed by a bench comprising Ms. Vadiyya Khalil, Chairperson, Ikram Ul Haque Qureshi, Member (Cartels & Trade Abuses, and Legal) and Dr. Shahzad Ansar, Member (OFT & Advocacy).
While passing the order, CCP has also disposed of a complaint filed by Hascol Petroleum Limited (Hascol) regarding potential discontinuation of supply of refined petroleum products by PRL to PSO?s competitors after the acquisition.
The CCP observed that the acquisition of PRL?s shares by PSO would not substantially lessen competition in the market.
It was noted that PRL?s share in the local refined petroleum product market was around 10% and that local refineries including PRL collectively supply less than 50% of the total demand of refined petroleum products in Pakistan while the rest is met by imports undertaken by Oil Marketing Companies (OMCs) themselves.
With imports being readily available, PSO would have no incentive to foreclose the supply of refined petroleum products from PRL to its competitors such as Hascol.
Furthermore, with downstream petroleum industry heavy regulated by Oil and Gas Regulatory Authority, there is no chance of PSO raising prices for competitors or end consumers.
The CCP further observed that Hascol?s concerns were not acquisition-specific.
While disposing off Hascol?s complaint and allowing the acquisition, CCP directed both PSO and PRL not to engage in any form of exclusionary conduct, and to continue offering its refined petroleum products to other OMCs including Hascol on commercially viable and competitive terms.
In the event that any anti-competitive behaviour is brought to the knowledge of CCP, the parties in question would be proceeded against in accordance with the law.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on March 04, 2016, 11:22:05 PM
Admin specially Farzooq Bhai please comment on the above deal.
We need your guidance for taking decision on PRL investment .

Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on March 05, 2016, 01:36:53 PM
Nadeem bhai  plz comment the impact on  EPS and its share pice after this deal???
bro hold prl at least till dec-16 oil sector tezi drive the market index towards 35000 inshaallah before June 16 if world market stables
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rashid.Maria on March 05, 2016, 06:06:56 PM
For short term kha tak ja Sakta hai pak refinery plz guide

Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on March 08, 2016, 12:53:40 PM
Few years back a friend of mine met me who came from US to work on iso project of PRL,he told me that its TOPI DRAMA upon my query about the project.

I didn't take it seriously but quarterly results and shall's selling of right shares,getting skeptical now....

It will be better to switch to NRL or ATRL
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on March 08, 2016, 01:57:15 PM
Few years back a friend of mine met me who came from US to work on iso project of PRL,he told me that its TOPI DRAMA upon my query about the project.

I didn't take it seriously but quarterly results and shall's selling of right shares,getting skeptical now....

It will be better to switch to NRL or ATRL

how is it topi drama ?
they ARE making extra petrol ( postive margin ) utilize ngative margin naptha
the refinery itself is shit

NRL atrl are priced much cheaper considering prls equity has been wiped out while ATrl Nrl have huge cash balances
NRL will continue to make good profit from lube business
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on March 08, 2016, 05:45:36 PM
60 is my first personal target. Lets see....
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on March 08, 2016, 06:49:06 PM
60 is my first personal target. Lets see....
Many peoples give the same target... let c where it will go I hope it will achieve it
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on March 09, 2016, 08:09:50 PM
According to respective websites of PRL & ATRL their MS quantity will increase by 140000MT/annum 20000MT/month respectively.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SMF-M on March 10, 2016, 01:10:48 PM
It went down like a rock and big lower lock when almost all of oil is positive. Any news?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on March 10, 2016, 08:01:10 PM
Koi news i hai ek dum lowe lock and volume dekho kia drama share hai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SMF-M on March 10, 2016, 09:58:38 PM
Massive buying at lower lock, it was locked when volumes were 2.7 million, all the volumes above that were on lower lock.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on March 10, 2016, 10:55:20 PM
Massive buying at lower lock, it was locked when volumes were 2.7 million, all the volumes above that were on lower lock.
Yes
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on March 11, 2016, 12:53:15 AM
Nadeem bhai  plz comment the impact on  EPS and its share pice after this deal???
bro hold prl at least till dec-16 oil sector tezi drive the market index towards 35000 inshaallah before June 16 if world market stables
"The stock market is a device for transferring money from the impatient to the patient." - Warren Buffett
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on March 11, 2016, 10:02:13 AM
 Hey, why oil refineries are under pressure even largest oil refinery network of Pakistan.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on March 11, 2016, 04:50:55 PM
Dosto mairy khayaal main ab PRL he aisa share reh gia hy jis main risk ly ker maximum gain lia ja sakta hy. Sachi baat to ye hy k bohot sy A class shares ab entry level sy kaheen door ja chuky hain jaisy
HCAR 250 range
Engro 350 range
Searl 450 range
Pso 350 range
Etc

Aisay rates per entry laina bohot risky bhi hy aur gain bhi khas nahi milnay wala.

In these scenario RPL seems most lucrative investment @ 40s for mid and long term investors.
Agar nedeem bhai ki 35000 market wali prediction theek nikli to PRL surprise dy sakta hy...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on March 14, 2016, 05:31:37 PM

http://www.psx.com.pk/newsattachment/078532.pdf
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on March 14, 2016, 05:42:08 PM

http://www.psx.com.pk/newsattachment/078532.pdf

The same Fossil energy having 19% stake in hascol.

1st shell and now fossil energy seems they are reluctant to put money in upcoming right issue whenever it comes.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on March 14, 2016, 06:19:40 PM

http://www.psx.com.pk/newsattachment/078532.pdf

The same Fossil energy having 19% stake in hascol.

1st shell and now fossil energy seems they are reluctant to put money in upcoming right issue whenever it comes.

But why did they have to announce on exchange
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on March 14, 2016, 06:45:01 PM

http://www.psx.com.pk/newsattachment/078532.pdf

The same Fossil energy having 19% stake in hascol.

1st shell and now fossil energy seems they are reluctant to put money in upcoming right issue whenever it comes.

But why did they have to announce on exchange

Yes good question when they are not the major shareholder!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on March 17, 2016, 12:29:07 PM
http://www.psx.com.pk/newsimage/78565-1.pdf
?Pakistan Refinery
In a notice to PSX, PRL updated about the utilization of Right Shares proceeds, It said that
 PRL has been able to achieve its growth objective which is successful operation of the Isomerization plant since July 2015. This contributed positively and PRL declared Profit of Rs 209 mn in the first half of 2015
?The issue of negative equity has also been resolved to the some extent and strengthen the balance sheet
? It supported the shares holders and the financial lenders
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on March 18, 2016, 03:36:58 PM
Admin i need your guideline on PRL investment.
Please advise... :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on March 19, 2016, 04:44:44 PM
Admin i need your guideline on PRL investment.
Please advise... :thanks:
Soft Reminder!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on March 19, 2016, 05:03:28 PM
Admin i need your guideline on PRL investment.
Please advise... :thanks:
Soft Reminder!

no idea
but prefer atrl / nrl in the refinery space ...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on March 19, 2016, 06:18:28 PM
Admin i need your guideline on PRL investment.
Please advise... :thanks:
Soft Reminder!

no idea
but prefer atrl / nrl in the refinery space ...
Thanks SBM.

Anyone else who wants to take this call of PRL investment guidelines??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: aabugvi on March 20, 2016, 08:09:10 AM
Es ka wakeup time kab ho ga.bohat arsa sa soya huwa ha. :skeptic: :skeptic:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: aabugvi on March 26, 2016, 07:01:06 AM
Today 2.55 m vol in last day of week.
Next week mkt achi rahi tu inshaAllah 47 tk jana chiya.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: aabugvi on March 27, 2016, 07:36:19 AM
pso want to increase in prl stock from 22% to 49%.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rashidmunir on March 27, 2016, 03:30:02 PM
phir to ye next week main jahaz bn kar urr jaye ga ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on March 28, 2016, 12:38:25 AM
pso want to increase in prl stock from 22% to 49%.
Bro deal is done
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: ak_share on March 31, 2016, 12:40:26 PM
pso want to increase in prl stock from 22% to 49%.
Bro deal is done

Then when to run?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on March 31, 2016, 02:01:29 PM
Deal tu done bohat huti hain lekan mature bi tu ho, such as  May 2012. Byco Oil Pakistan Ltd and Pakistan State Oil (PSO) have signed a product sale and purchase agreement (SPA) which will ensure guaranteed sale of 65 per cent of Byco’s production of various petroleum products from its new 120,000 bpd refinery to PSO.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rashidmunir on April 03, 2016, 07:52:47 PM
I think some approval is awaited for 22 to 49% . Not sure. Can be wrong.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on April 07, 2016, 11:39:27 AM
 :dance :dance :dance GOOD SHOW  :dance :dance :dance
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 07, 2016, 02:57:22 PM
I.A 46-50
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on April 08, 2016, 03:17:25 PM
Pso wali news ka kia bana? Lagta hy andr he andr kuch story chal rahi hy.
Any update brothers?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 08, 2016, 03:43:15 PM
Pso wali news ka kia bana? Lagta hy andr he andr kuch story chal rahi hy.
Any update brothers?
I.A ayegi apne waqt p umeed hai rock hoga
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 08, 2016, 04:08:06 PM
Accumulating.... :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on April 08, 2016, 09:33:09 PM
Accumulating.... :thumbsup_anim:
Haan Cheeta PRL ki current movement dekh ker mujhy lag raha hy k tumhari baat main wazan hy. Aj mairy broker ny bhi mujhy hold karny ka bola hy 48-50 k liay. Tumhari kia strategy hy PRL k liay?
Buy/Hold/Sell/Accumulation?
Main to is ko June tak hold karna chah raha hon.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: aabugvi on April 09, 2016, 12:48:10 AM
My buying is 48.i m still hold.share acha ha.ab es ko chalna chiya.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 09, 2016, 04:56:51 PM
Accumulating.... :thumbsup_anim:
Haan Cheeta PRL ki current movement dekh ker mujhy lag raha hy k tumhari baat main wazan hy. Aj mairy broker ny bhi mujhy hold karny ka bola hy 48-50 k liay. Tumhari kia strategy hy PRL k liay?
Buy/Hold/Sell/Accumulation?
Main to is ko June tak hold karna chah raha hon.
Bro 50 cross ho tou up ka chance hoga dekhna hai PSO wali news kb aati hai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: aabugvi on April 14, 2016, 12:35:04 AM
Jab sub ka hold kar ka sabar jawab day ga aur sub sale karen ga tab    :D
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: majamil on April 14, 2016, 02:40:48 PM
good news for those who hold the PRL. :shoaby:
Today,  i sold my my PRL shares and now its rate definitely will up and i faced same situation in difference share
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 14, 2016, 04:19:48 PM
good news for those who hold the PRL. :shoaby:
Today,  i sold my my PRL shares and now its rate definitely will up and i faced same situation in difference share
Bro esa hota hai bht kahin aur hojaiega profit
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rashidmunir on April 14, 2016, 04:39:56 PM
Whats the news
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: srali14 on April 14, 2016, 04:44:15 PM
Bs BM 22-04-16.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 14, 2016, 04:49:00 PM
Bs BM 22-04-16.
This is gud BM Date announce and lock :shoaby:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rsuleman on April 14, 2016, 07:32:53 PM
Bs BM 22-04-16.
This is gud BM Date announce and lock :shoaby:
Upper lock seems to be due to influence of results of NRL and ATRL.
Let us hope that Result Reviews published by brokerage firms are positive for PRL and BYCO result is not announced meanwhile to spoil the game.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on April 14, 2016, 08:39:58 PM
Bs BM 22-04-16.
This is gud BM Date announce and lock :shoaby:
Upper lock seems to be due to influence of results of NRL and ATRL.
Let us hope that Result Reviews published by brokerage firms are positive for PRL and BYCO result is not announced meanwhile to spoil the game.
Hmmm
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on April 15, 2016, 11:44:22 AM
Nadeem bhai  plz comment the impact on  EPS and its share pice after this deal???
bro hold prl at least till dec-16 oil sector tezi drive the market index towards 35000 inshaallah before June 16 if world market stables
:thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim: Ma Sha Allah Cap on Cap  :thumbsup_anim: :thumbsup_anim:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on April 17, 2016, 08:11:57 PM
Ab to lagta hy sab chiriyan is darakhat sy urr gai hain aur ham tanha he baithy bahar anay ka intizar ker rahy hain...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on April 18, 2016, 04:47:52 PM
Dear Farzooq bhai,

How do you see the current bullish movement of PRL in recent days and relate it with the upcoming board meeting on 22-Apr-2016?

Regards,,
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: alicima on April 22, 2016, 03:19:06 PM
(http://i66.tinypic.com/33oqt12.jpg)
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adil-karachi on April 23, 2016, 09:20:19 AM
Seniors please guide, what should be strategy for this scrip till June 2016.
 
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on April 23, 2016, 10:00:40 AM
Nadeem bro ur input required
surprise comes hold excellent result
Nadeem bhai like before please comment on this quarter's result and your advice to holders.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 23, 2016, 01:10:46 PM
Good result Rs 5+six month earning I think next quarter even much better if annual earning is maintain in between 11-12 then at the multiple of 7 share price justify 70+ selling pressure due to public expect 150% right shares but like pibtl due to heavy free float shares share price not appreciates quickly fresh entry recommend in between 42-44 and must hold till annual result 48.10 strong resistance if breaks with volume then enter in bullish zone next week if due to roll over positions if market weeks then one must accumulate along with pibtl ffbl hascol hinoon searl
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on April 23, 2016, 02:19:49 PM
Good result Rs 5+six month earning I think next quarter even much better if annual earning is maintain in between 11-12 then at the multiple of 7 share price justify 70+ selling pressure due to public expect 150% right shares but like pibtl due to heavy free float shares share price not appreciates quickly fresh entry recommend in between 42-44 and must hold till annual result 48.10 strong resistance if breaks with volume then enter in bullish zone next week if due to roll over positions if market weeks then one must accumulate along with pibtl ffbl hascol hinoon searl
Nadeem Bhai many thanks for your detailed feedback and advice to holders.
Please keep sharing your knowledge & valuable information regarding stock market in the interest of the members of this forum. :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Adil-karachi on April 24, 2016, 09:30:05 AM
Thanks Ali Asadullah And Nadeem Bhai for guiding us  :clap1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: masood15 on April 24, 2016, 09:39:59 AM
Nadeem bhai PIBTL AND FFBL PER BUY KAHAN BANTI  HY AND YEH DONO KITNA DEC 16AIN UP JASAKTY HAIN?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on April 24, 2016, 10:14:15 AM
Nadeem bhai PIBTL AND FFBL PER BUY KAHAN BANTI  HY AND YEH DONO KITNA DEC 16AIN UP JASAKTY HAIN?
ffbl buy in between 48-50 and pibtl 26.50-26.80 due to political noise and roll over week next week we might see some pressure in market except oil sector whenever u see buying opportunity buy at least for the mindset of 6 months Allah knows better but I will see pibtl in the range of 32-35 and ffbl 55-58
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: masood15 on April 24, 2016, 10:32:56 AM
THANKS FOR REPLY NADEEM BHAI I WLL BUY
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rashidmunir on April 25, 2016, 10:02:46 AM
What is roll over week ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: coolasim79 on April 26, 2016, 04:17:26 PM
What is roll over week ?
I think Some Selling or Settlement and taking new positions is called Roll OVer
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 01, 2016, 07:33:34 PM
Nadeem bhai  plz comment the impact on  EPS and its share pice after this deal???
bro hold prl at least till dec-16 oil sector tezi drive the market index towards 35000 inshaallah before June 16 if world market stables
good luck to holders and congaratutation in advance for breaking 35000 index find resistance at 34840 but hopefully breaks and trade above 35200 very soon try to buy those items who not perform in recent tezi like hascol efert ffbl hbl MCB ubl pael pibtl prl csap for decent returns in future any dip is the buying opportunity for investors hope index might breaks all time high above 36000 during Ramadan subject to political;regional mareks and crude oil stability
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on May 01, 2016, 11:27:32 PM
Bohot arsy baad Nadeem Bhai ka aggressive post parhnay ko mila hy
Dil ko ik umeed bandhi hy....
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 02, 2016, 12:07:46 AM
 :thanks:
Nadeem bhai  plz comment the impact on  EPS and its share pice after this deal???
bro hold prl at least till dec-16 oil sector tezi drive the market index towards 35000 inshaallah before June 16 if world market stables
good luck to holders and congaratutation in advance for breaking 35000 index find resistance at 34840 but hopefully breaks and trade above 35200 very soon try to buy those items who not perform in recent tezi like hascol efert ffbl hbl MCB ubl pael pibtl prl csap for decent returns in future any dip is the buying opportunity for investors hope index might breaks all time high above 36000 during Ramadan subject to political;regional mareks and crude oil stability
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 04, 2016, 08:26:22 PM
Nadeem bhai  plz comment the impact on  EPS and its share pice after this deal???
bro hold prl at least till dec-16 oil sector tezi drive the market index towards 35000 inshaallah before June 16 if world market stables
good luck to holders and congaratutation in advance for breaking 35000 index find resistance at 34840 but hopefully breaks and trade above 35200 very soon try to buy those items who not perform in recent tezi like hascol efert ffbl hbl MCB ubl pael pibtl prl csap for decent returns in future any dip is the buying opportunity for investors hope index might breaks all time high above 36000 during Ramadan subject to political;regional mareks and crude oil stability.
.  As I mentioned two months back market will break 35000 soon good luck to holders hbl MCB perform now keep an eye on has col and pael
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SAM71 on May 12, 2016, 11:39:44 AM
The board meeting next week may have something to do with bumper right shares for the dhds project.
Otherwise they have never held a board meeting for budget approval in the past.
Any views from nadeemkhaliq and other forum members...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 12, 2016, 12:32:45 PM
The board meeting next week may have something to do with bumper right shares for the dhds project.
Otherwise they have never held a board meeting for budget approval in the past.
Any views from nadeemkhaliq and other forum members...
I m also thnking the same,Nadeem bhai can explain better :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on May 13, 2016, 10:01:09 PM
Nedeem Bhai your view on above rumors??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 13, 2016, 10:10:30 PM
Nedeem Bhai your view on above rumors??
possibility of 200-300% right not ruled out
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on May 13, 2016, 11:20:02 PM
Nedeem Bhai your view on above rumors??
possibility of 200-300% right not ruled out
Nadeem sb ... In case of right issue , what do you see the effect on the share price ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 13, 2016, 11:31:17 PM
[quote a
lhor=LuqmanRafiq1 link=topic=298.msg252568#msg252568 date=1463163602]
Nedeem Bhai your view on above rumors??
possibility of 200-300% right not ruled out
Nadeem sb ... In case of right issue , what do you see the effect on the share price ?
[/quote]
200% at par positive impact
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 13, 2016, 11:34:02 PM
Nadeem bhai  plz comment the impact on  EPS and its share pice after this deal???
bro hold prl at least till dec-16 oil sector tezi drive the market index towards 35000 inshaallah before June 16 if world market stables
good luck to holders and congaratutation in advance for breaking 35000 index find resistance at 34840 but hopefully breaks and trade above 35200 very soon try to buy those items who not perform in recent tezi like hascol efert ffbl hbl MCB ubl pael pibtl prl csap for decent returns in future any dip is the buying opportunity for investors hope index might breaks all time high above 36000 during Ramadan subject to political;regional mareks and crude oil stability
.    All items runs except efert now keep an eyes on efert
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali on May 14, 2016, 01:09:15 AM
Why Efert isnt running? so dead item
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on May 14, 2016, 11:20:09 AM
[quote a
lhor=LuqmanRafiq1 link=topic=298.msg252568#msg252568 date=1463163602]
Nedeem Bhai your view on above rumors??
possibility of 200-300% right not ruled out
Nadeem sb ... In case of right issue , what do you see the effect on the share price ?

200% at par positive impact
[/quote]
Thanks Nadeem Bhai for your timely advice. :thanks:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on May 14, 2016, 02:29:32 PM
[quote a
lhor=LuqmanRafiq1 link=topic=298.msg252568#msg252568 date=1463163602]
Nedeem Bhai your view on above rumors??
possibility of 200-300% right not ruled out
Nadeem sb ... In case of right issue , what do you see the effect on the share price ?

200% at par positive impact
[/quote]Nadeem sb .. On what date is the BM ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 14, 2016, 03:33:15 PM
[quote a
lhor=LuqmanRafiq1 link=topic=298.msg252568#msg252568 date=1463163602]
Nedeem Bhai your view on above rumors??
possibility of 200-300% right not ruled out
Nadeem sb ... In case of right issue , what do you see the effect on the share price ?

200% at par positive impact
Nadeem sb .. On what date is the BM ?
[/quote]. 18-04-16 right rumours news not confirm
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 14, 2016, 08:17:55 PM
Pakistan State Oil Co., the nation’s biggest importer of petroleum products, plans to build a refinery for as much as $6 billion to expand into processing crude.
The nation’s biggest company by revenue is looking for partners to help build a plant to process 200,000 to 250,000 barrels a day of oil, Chief Executive Officer Sheikh Imran ul Haque said in an interview in Karachi, making this the nation’s largest refinery. He didn’t elaborate on how the company will finance the plant or give a timeline for the project as it is at an initial stage

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-12/biggest-pakistan-fuel-importer-plans-6-billion-crude-refinery
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfankhan on May 14, 2016, 08:21:51 PM
http://dailypakistan.com.pk/karachi/14-May-2016/381272

Kya karen is share ka - this means huge rights again.

bought at 58 average and here we are at 45 -

13 rupee loss. now it seems another huge rights - is this share going for 30 or 20 rupees?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: jamalakhter on May 15, 2016, 11:26:42 AM
Nadeem bhai  plz comment the impact on  EPS and its share pice after this deal???
bro hold prl at least till dec-16 oil sector tezi drive the market index towards 35000 inshaallah before June 16 if world market stables
good luck to holders and congaratutation in advance for breaking 35000 index find resistance at 34840 but hopefully breaks and trade above 35200 very soon try to buy those items who not perform in recent tezi like hascol efert ffbl hbl MCB ubl pael pibtl prl csap for decent returns in future any dip is the buying opportunity for investors hope index might breaks all time high above 36000 during Ramadan subject to political;regional mareks and crude oil stability
.    All items runs except efert now keep an eyes on efert

                            Hascol & ffbl r returning 2 pre rally rate
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on May 15, 2016, 11:57:49 AM
http://dailypakistan.com.pk/karachi/14-May-2016/381272

Kya karen is share ka - this means huge rights again.

bought at 58 average and here we are at 45 -

13 rupee loss. now it seems another huge rights - is this share going for 30 or 20 rupees?
Question that should be answer on priority by admin in the interest of members that hold PRL.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rsuleman on May 15, 2016, 12:58:28 PM
http://dailypakistan.com.pk/karachi/14-May-2016/381272

Kya karen is share ka - this means huge rights again.

bought at 58 average and here we are at 45 -

13 rupee loss. now it seems another huge rights - is this share going for 30 or 20 rupees?
Question that should be answer on priority by admin in the interest of members that hold PRL.

As per my understanding:
XR price will be diluted price. But it will not cause a loss, as the shareholders get LOR against the dilution. LOR can be sold or subscribed at a discounted rate. With an intelligent play the shareholders utilize right share issue to their advantage and overall profit.
Therefore, please explain what is your concern with issue of right shares.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on May 15, 2016, 07:33:22 PM
As we have some good investment in PRL and currently sustaining a loss so we are much much worried. Samjh nahi aa raha loss book ker lain ya hold karein?
Ye na ho k right issue k baad value itni down chali jaye k bounce back ka chance he na rahy..  :dunno:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfankhan on May 15, 2016, 07:57:54 PM
http://dailypakistan.com.pk/karachi/14-May-2016/381272

Kya karen is share ka - this means huge rights again.

bought at 58 average and here we are at 45 -

13 rupee loss. now it seems another huge rights - is this share going for 30 or 20 rupees?
Question that should be answer on priority by admin in the interest of members that hold PRL.

As per my understanding:
XR price will be diluted price. But it will not cause a loss, as the shareholders get LOR against the dilution. LOR can be sold or subscribed at a discounted rate. With an intelligent play the shareholders utilize right share issue to their advantage and overall profit.
Therefore, please explain what is your concern with issue of right shares.

I do understand the rights and changes for EXIT but does this company will give good EPS dueto large capital and whats post 6 month and 12 months vision growth if its less then rights issue then for sure the share price can go do down after XR. this is the concern. same as Ali Asadullah almost.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rashidmunir on May 18, 2016, 04:54:06 PM
Was the board meeting today?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 18, 2016, 06:06:36 PM
Was the board meeting today?
Yes pre open notice ajaega
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on May 19, 2016, 10:48:54 AM
Was the board meeting today?
Yes pre open notice ajaega
Any update about the notice ??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rashidmunir on May 19, 2016, 10:53:00 AM
So far no update to psx
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on May 19, 2016, 07:06:59 PM
Any Update ??? :dunno:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: nadeemkhaliq on May 19, 2016, 07:22:47 PM
Nadeem bhai  plz comment the impact on  EPS and its share pice after this deal???
bro hold prl at least till dec-16 oil sector tezi drive the market index towards 35000 inshaallah before June 16 if world market stables
good luck to holders and congaratutation in advance for breaking 35000 index find resistance at 34840 but hopefully breaks and trade above 35200 very soon try to buy those items who not perform in recent tezi like hascol efert ffbl hbl MCB ubl pael pibtl prl csap for decent returns in future any dip is the buying opportunity for investors hope index might breaks all time high above 36000 during Ramadan subject to political;regional mareks and crude oil stability
.       Congratulation to all all time high index achieve today
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sanwar on May 19, 2016, 07:42:05 PM
Was the board meeting today?
Yes pre open notice ajaega
Any update about the notice ??

The last update on PRL is present at the following link:
http://www.psx.com.pk/newsimage/82131-1.pdf
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rashidmunir on May 19, 2016, 10:57:38 PM
So no right shares this time.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 20, 2016, 11:08:01 AM
As we have some good investment in PRL and currently sustaining a loss so we are much much worried. Samjh nahi aa raha loss book ker lain ya hold karein?
Ye na ho k right issue k baad value itni down chali jaye k bounce back ka chance he na rahy..  :dunno:
Hold I.A next week it should run 48>>>>>50>>>>52
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: LuqmanRafiq1 on May 20, 2016, 01:46:57 PM
As we have some good investment in PRL and currently sustaining a loss so we are much much worried. Samjh nahi aa raha loss book ker lain ya hold karein?
Ye na ho k right issue k baad value itni down chali jaye k bounce back ka chance he na rahy..  :dunno:
Hold I.A next week it should run 48>>>>>50>>>>52
On what basis ??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on May 20, 2016, 04:37:58 PM
If they are not issuing right shares and planning to support their future business plans from internally generated funds then this is a very big news for PRL investors.
Isn't it??
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 20, 2016, 11:22:52 PM
If they are not issuing right shares and planning to support their future business plans from internally generated funds then this is a very big news for PRL investors.
Isn't it??
Yes,it can show gud final result as v c in the last two quarters, most possile it can recover the negative equity in the short time from the potential growth
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on May 21, 2016, 12:31:49 AM
If they are not issuing right shares and planning to support their future business plans from internally generated funds then this is a very big news for PRL investors.
Isn't it??

impossible
rights aaengay .. aaj nhi tu kal
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on May 21, 2016, 10:31:37 AM
SBM if they did not announce then why still you are in the negative zone for PRL ??
Because you hate waking up?? :D
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rashidmunir on May 21, 2016, 11:06:34 AM
 ;) :D
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on May 21, 2016, 12:56:25 PM
Wait and see
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rsuleman on May 21, 2016, 01:17:05 PM
SBM if they did not announce then why still you are in the negative zone for PRL ??
Because you hate waking up?? :D
Bro, with the level of confidence reflects in your post, you need to explain why do you consider issuance of right shares as a negative signal so that other members may learn from you. Do you focus on the diluted XR value only and ignore the LOR received in the exchange that has also value in the market.
You know that a Cum Right Share is converted to XR share plus a LOR. Once a right issue is announced you can work out your gain or loss at any point of time, using "the market values of XR plus LOR" versus" your actual cost of Cum Right share" and decide accordingly your action.
Some traders operate in the market in the shares that are about to or have already announced right shares and they make substantial profit.
They did make a lot of profit in the recent event of issue of right shares by PRL.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on May 21, 2016, 05:51:00 PM
It's simple bro. A rights issue by a highly geared company intended to strengthen its balance sheet or to fund it's upcoming business plans is often a bad sign. Profits are already low (or negative) and future profits are diluted. Unless the underlying business is improved, changing its capital structure achieves little.

So, if company is giving a signal in their meeting of 11 May that for their 2016-17 annual business plan they are not issuing right shares it means they are projecting strength in their internally generated funds then it is a positive signal.I am not sure but if they able to manage new business plans without right then it will change the whole scenario.
And being a holder of 60000 shares I am expecting a TP of 70 till dec 16.
If it doesn't happen It will be disappointing for me.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: dr.muhammad zia on May 22, 2016, 02:43:00 PM
SBM if they did not announce then why still you are in the negative zone for PRL ??
Because you hate waking up?? :D
Bro, with the level of confidence reflects in your post, you need to explain why do you consider issuance of right shares as a negative signal so that other members may learn from you. Do you focus on the diluted XR value only and ignore the LOR received in the exchange that has also value in the market.
You know that a Cum Right Share is converted to XR share plus a LOR. Once a right issue is announced you can work out your gain or loss at any point of time, using "the market values of XR plus LOR" versus" your actual cost of Cum Right share" and decide accordingly your action.
Some traders operate in the market in the shares that are about to or have already announced right shares and they make substantial profit.
They did make a lot of profit in the recent event of issue of right shares by PRL.

http://www.brecorder.com/company-news/235:pakistan/46645:pakistan-refinery-limited/?date=2016-05-17
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 22, 2016, 10:52:54 PM
SBM if they did not announce then why still you are in the negative zone for PRL ??
Because you hate waking up?? :D
Bro, with the level of confidence reflects in your post, you need to explain why do you consider issuance of right shares as a negative signal so that other members may learn from you. Do you focus on the diluted XR value only and ignore the LOR received in the exchange that has also value in the market.
You know that a Cum Right Share is converted to XR share plus a LOR. Once a right issue is announced you can work out your gain or loss at any point of time, using "the market values of XR plus LOR" versus" your actual cost of Cum Right share" and decide accordingly your action.
Some traders operate in the market in the shares that are about to or have already announced right shares and they make substantial profit.
They did make a lot of profit in the recent event of issue of right shares by PRL.

http://www.brecorder.com/company-news/235:pakistan/46645:pakistan-refinery-limited/?date=2016-05-17
So rights aane ka full sceen on hai ager huge qauntity ajie tou ballly bally for the holders
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rashidmunir on May 23, 2016, 09:48:17 PM
Sold some today and then bought again looking at demand.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 23, 2016, 10:59:17 PM
I will also add some quantity if break 48
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Alpha on May 30, 2016, 11:41:10 AM
Why don't they report product sale figures in quarterly reports  :mad:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on May 31, 2016, 05:28:30 PM
Good result Rs 5+six month earning I think next quarter even much better if annual earning is maintain in between 11-12 then at the multiple of 7 share price justify 70+ selling pressure due to public expect 150% right shares but like pibtl due to heavy free float shares share price not appreciates quickly fresh entry recommend in between 42-44 and must hold till annual result 48.10 strong resistance if breaks with volume then enter in bullish zone next week if due to roll over positions if market weeks then one must accumulate along with pibtl ffbl hascol hinoon searl

must hold till annual result  :rtfm:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on May 31, 2016, 08:12:57 PM
Good result Rs 5+six month earning I think next quarter even much better if annual earning is maintain in between 11-12 then at the multiple of 7 share price justify 70+ selling pressure due to public expect 150% right shares but like pibtl due to heavy free float shares share price not appreciates quickly fresh entry recommend in between 42-44 and must hold till annual result 48.10 strong resistance if breaks with volume then enter in bullish zone next week if due to roll over positions if market weeks then one must accumulate along with pibtl ffbl hascol hinoon searl

must hold till annual result  :rtfm:
Yes we are on hold I hope it will give good return
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on June 11, 2016, 04:11:23 PM
Kia achay din aany waly hain???
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: karehman on June 13, 2016, 10:22:55 PM
Yeh tou wapis 42.50 per agaya hay. Mazeed down k chances hain ya uo ho ga ?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 16, 2016, 05:25:50 PM
http://www.prl.com.pk/downloads/3rdqtr2016.pdf

Short term borrowings 16 billion and trade debts 12 billion... kia ho raha hai...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on June 17, 2016, 07:07:55 PM
PRL showed zero correlation with positive market movement  :dunno:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on June 19, 2016, 02:33:11 AM
PRL showed zero correlation with positive market movement  :dunno:
Its direct relation with the Long term Investrs, I mean BB's
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: karehman on June 22, 2016, 04:38:04 PM
NRL all time high per hay
ATRL HIGH per hay

yeh PRL ko kya mout par rhi hay?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: ali-ahmad on June 22, 2016, 04:43:15 PM
wohi mout jo byco ko peri hoi hai
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on June 22, 2016, 08:58:33 PM
NRL all time high per hay
ATRL HIGH per hay

yeh PRL ko kya mout par rhi hay?
Jab tak mall nah under hoga nah chalega
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: jamalakhter on June 23, 2016, 01:04:34 AM
NRL all time high per hay
ATRL HIGH per hay

yeh PRL ko kya mout par rhi hay?
Jab tak mall nah under hoga nah chalega
Dear cheeta ,at what rate chalega-----------?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on June 23, 2016, 09:41:47 PM
Can it go till 40? Or it is time to buy?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on June 23, 2016, 11:10:02 PM
Bhai jab tk main apny 72000 share nahi sell karon ga ye chal he nahi sakta.
I can bet on it. I have experienced it a lot. Seems some unseen forces control the share price.
Baddddddddd!!!!
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: karehman on June 23, 2016, 11:22:10 PM
Bhai jab tk main apny 72000 share nahi sell karon ga ye chal he nahi sakta.
I can bet on it. It have experienced it a lot. Seems some unseen forces controls the share price.
Baddddddddd!!!!
Ali sahab sahi kha aap ne. Hum public hay aur jab tak public k pass maal hota hay woh nahi barhta.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfankhan on June 24, 2016, 12:06:50 AM
Bhai jab tk main apny 72000 share nahi sell karon ga ye chal he nahi sakta.
I can bet on it. It have experienced it a lot. Seems some unseen forces controls the share price.
Baddddddddd!!!!
Ali sahab sahi kha aap ne. Hum public hay aur jab tak public k pass maal hota hay woh nahi barhta.

Correct - Sab k paas hai - mostly.   :crying_anim02:

Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: dr.muhammad zia on June 24, 2016, 12:17:43 AM
hold :console:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfankhan on June 24, 2016, 12:35:36 AM
hold :console:

 :bigeyed:

1 year 2 year 5 year -

any news you have ?

I know this will be good in future but after 1 year it can be good but debt bohot barh jaiga. not a good sign in my view. i am invested anyway.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on June 24, 2016, 11:29:08 AM
Seniors please advice .
Hold or Exit as my 100% investment is in one stock PRL  with buying rate of 52.
Please advice ASAP for action..
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: invincible on June 24, 2016, 11:40:53 AM
Seniors please advice .
Hold or Exit as my 100% investment is in one stock PRL  with buying rate of 52.
Please advice ASAP for action..
never sell in panic
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: momo on June 24, 2016, 12:01:02 PM
Seniors please advice .
Hold or Exit as my 100% investment is in one stock PRL  with buying rate of 52.
Please advice ASAP for action..

Why would you invest 100% of your portfolio in one stock? That's the worst thing to do to yourself. Take this as a good lesson and never do this again. Invest in at least 4-5 different stocks that you follow closely.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on June 24, 2016, 12:16:24 PM
That we can discuss later..
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on June 24, 2016, 05:09:59 PM
Out of 72000,20000 sold in panic at a loss of (52-41) per share :(
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on June 24, 2016, 06:14:50 PM
Out of 72000,20000 sold in panic at a loss of (52-41) per share :(
Bhaee 48 p tou krte wahan tou chaljaiega
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Irfankhan on June 24, 2016, 07:03:37 PM
Out of 72000,20000 sold in panic at a loss of (52-41) per share :(
Bhaee 48 p tou krte wahan tou chaljaiega

These are lowest rates. 38-42 are the buying prices in my view however not easy to predict. you sold it at 41 and its still below your selling rate so you are good.
if i was you, i would re buy at 38-38.50 but this is PSX. i didnt sold my holdings anyway.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: dr.muhammad zia on June 24, 2016, 08:26:03 PM
Out of 72000,20000 sold in panic at a loss of (52-41) per share :(
Bhaee 48 p tou krte wahan tou chaljaiega

ap ne buy karne k rate per sell kardiya :bangin:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Ali Asadullah on June 24, 2016, 09:43:05 PM
It s all about behavioral finance...
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on June 26, 2016, 01:13:32 PM
It s all about behavioral finance...
yes u should buy again on dip for doing avrg
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: sabir.hussain on June 26, 2016, 01:17:33 PM
It s all about behavioral finance...
yes u should buy again on dip for doing avrg
max dip 37-38, strong buy for good returns :fingerscrossed1:
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: invincible on July 12, 2016, 09:54:11 AM
Seems strong, Any update?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Stock_Cheeta on July 12, 2016, 09:44:34 PM
Seems strong, Any update?
Any chance to cross 48>>>49>>>50?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: invincible on July 12, 2016, 09:49:20 PM
Seems strong, Any update?
Any chance to cross 48>>>49>>>50?
.

48 is easily attainable.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: zakhan76 on July 12, 2016, 10:36:40 PM
Rights issue on the cards. PRL need money to produce diesel of European Standard.
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Rixwan on July 18, 2016, 11:39:45 AM
Is it good time to take entry in this right here right now or there will be some more dip?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: dr.muhammad zia on July 18, 2016, 12:13:47 PM
Rights issue on the cards. PRL need money to produce diesel of European Standard.

look at current ratio they need cash to run dhs
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Atif1 on July 18, 2016, 12:41:34 PM
Rights issue on the cards. PRL need money to produce diesel of European Standard.

look at current ratio they need cash to run dhs

inta cash lia tha last year rights main 800%, ab aik or right :o   
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on July 18, 2016, 12:51:07 PM
Rights issue on the cards. PRL need money to produce diesel of European Standard.

look at current ratio they need cash to run dhs

inta cash lia tha last year rights main 800%, ab aik or right :o

it was a very small issue compared to their needs at that time
actual requirement was atleast 4000% not 800%
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: rational.investor on July 18, 2016, 01:30:34 PM
Rights issue on the cards. PRL need money to produce diesel of European Standard.

look at current ratio they need cash to run dhs

inta cash lia tha last year rights main 800%, ab aik or right :o

it was a very small issue compared to their needs at that time
actual requirement was atleast 4000% not 800%

Any comments on NRL? Hold or sell?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: Rixwan on July 18, 2016, 02:12:42 PM
Rights issue on the cards. PRL need money to produce diesel of European Standard.

look at current ratio they need cash to run dhs

inta cash lia tha last year rights main 800%, ab aik or right :o

it was a very small issue compared to their needs at that time
actual requirement was atleast 4000% not 800%

is that requirement still exist or not? and the main point left behind as one can take fresh entry or not?
Title: Re: PRL -- Pakistan Refinery Limited
Post by: SBM on July 18, 2016, 05:30:18 PM
Rights issue on the cards. PRL need money to produce diesel of European Standard.

look at current ratio they need cash to run dhs

inta cash lia tha last year rights main 800%, ab aik or right :o

it was a very small issue compared to their needs at that time
actual requirement was atleast 4000% not 800%

Any comments on NRL? Hold or sell?

i was out of NRL in the 300s
dunno
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